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Welcome to the Jenna & Julien Podcast where we talk about all the things. If you are looking for your everyday, normal, by the book podcast, then you're in the wrong place. We created this because we tend to have awesome, random, and sometimes drunk conversations that we realized had to be shared with the lovely internet world. So here we are.
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[@jackssisteremily1390]

You should do a "guess the product" where you read each other the reviews of product and the other person has to guess what it is

[@christinabenby381]

ArtoftheDance this would be hilarious!

[@saras.7928]

ArtoftheDance OMG YES

[@loveland852]

Or write their own shitty descriptions like with their “guess the movie” podcast.

[@loamun3341]

Genius.

[@hopemackk]

YESSS

[@daysleeper999]

"you wanna hear what i'm making?" "yeah" " *G R U E L* " " *w h e e z e* "

[@Chickn420]

i read this as it happened in the video im fucking crying jesus

[@paulgraber3322]

The subtitles list it as [Music] which makes it even funnier

[@trinitythetrombone]

17:05 is the start of it if u need the timestamp💗💖

[@ashcrouch7266]

Peej Graber yDtfj

[@madisonphillips3083]

legit crying and scream laughing with jenna at this almost 2 years later lmaooooooooo

[@Awesomekittyness]

remember when marbles HATED julien, now marbles is sitting in juliens lap sleeping in a swing. what a glow up.

[@sofiaprado5994]

*meeble

[@carriewinters7802]

@@sofiaprado5994 *bobby

[@skypowers.]

👁👅👁

[@bellarose669]

character development

[@lxurxnxdxvixs]

the gruel moment is one of the funniest on the internet I swEAR

[@mikkisherlock]

My boyfriend laughed so hard he cried when I showed it to him

[@callieshowers2738]

Yeah but pissedonmyass

[@amberc6540]

I’ve cried several times over gruel

[@amymills6761]

My

[@radcolortiedye6718]

I laughed so loud

[@kassyramirez5061]

Tight tight! Y’all should choose one recipe, buy the ingredients, and have the other try to cook the recipe without knowing what the recipe is and come up with the dish the person had in mind when they bought the ingredients.

[@friendly_maddog5734]

Kassy Ramirez Jenna’s Wednesday video? Please 😊

[@alexokeeffe6995]

yes !!

[@recoveringintrovert717]

Yeeesss

[@amandamajchrzak650]

Kassy Ramirez YES UR GENIUS

[@madisonm8557]

This sounds so fun!

[@Haruta18]

The gruel bit literally made me cry god dammit Julien

[@eirrac]

I was eating soup during that bit and I spit it back in the bowl 😆

[@sohhyunmin]

hearing jenna scream laugh at gruel made ME scream laugh. and i was walking on the street. people probably thought i was insane.

[@elissesutton4503]

I was sooooooo happy I was at home when I watched this I was crying the rest of my eye make up off too 😂I loved when she was like "you need to leave" because she's laughing so hard

[@marianna3253]

Thanks guys for the heads up, I was initially going to watch the video in the bus but I'm glad I didn't, I would've been kicked out, I laughed so hard xD

[@edenjohnson6951]

I laughed so hard I cried haha!!

[@daniburnsperformer9410]

"You're making rice", she insisted.

[@ciannabanana9511]

Dani Burns Performer NOOOO it’s grull

[@lovemusic6218]

Can you please say where that was found??

[@chickfilae490]

@@lovemusic6218 17:04

[@anyalaASMR]

[Narrator] *He was not making rice.*

[@J-B-P]

"1 heaping cup of Parmesan cheese" "Did you say there was cheese?" "Nope no cheese"

[@izzyequestrian9096]

29:22 for the cheese recipe

[@Emrader00]

Julian: “im making gruel” Jenna: *dies*

[@JoseBortoli]

Emily Rader my favourite part of the whole podcast

[@melihavoc]

Omg i died!! Crying and coughing over here!!!

[@Adrianefan68259]

It's a gruel, gruel world

[@drakhos5820]

i'm making *G R U E L*

[@PeaceNLiebe]

18:50 onward I was 💀

[@monalouis7289]

Jenna just straight up losing her shit at the rice 😂

[@boobiedu]

* Gruel

[@tjaye98]

I cried laughing. No joke. That shit was funny af.

[@monalouis7289]

kapes ox sorry my bad 🤭😂

[@monalouis7289]

Taryn Jaye I think her literally having to turn away from the microphone to scream laugh was what did me in 😂😂

[@daysleeper999]

thats *G R U E L* to you

[@suna173.6jm]

Jenna video idea: Making A Vat Of Gruel

[@amandawyant6233]

Surprising Julien with a vat of gruel!

[@tracyleung8438]

glue, cheese, the blood of her enemies

[@MsSportychic11]

Amanda Wyant birthday party idea

[@TheNicholaslee124]

Idea for a podcast Jenna would love: game - why is this person on doctor phil

[@lauren-gc2iy]

Nicholas Lee WHY DOESN'T THIS HAVE MORE LIKES

[@zhdyak7134]

this is such a good idea

[@TayloK999]

Nicholas Lee yasssss!!!

[@sadstrawberrygirl]

hi yeah i love this

[@samaugustine4291]

Such a good idea

[@JarodWatson98]

I honestly was hoping Julien would say “I have a recipe with only 1 item. It’s water....BUT....you have to be Jesus. It’s wine, which if you can’t make water into wine you can try Winc.” “JUUULIEEENNNNN!!” 😂😂

[@ivonnegallegos58]

Hahahhaha now I'm kinda sad he didn't hahahahhaha

[@PeepingUkulele]

I could see that

[@offdooty]

He missed a BEAUTIFUL opportunity

[@urlocaldevilbaby4797]

you basically just wrote a fanfictional ad

[@michellnielsen7451]

Yes!! I'm choke-laughing at this so hard! I almost wish it was animated, lol.

[@monicacarroll1649]

Jenna: “I believe you 1000%” Julen: “6 medium bananas”

[@T_G88]

Did I seriously just laugh my ass off for an hour listening about recipes? Only J&J are capable of such a thing.

[@sguyton7614]

Julien: You can throw it. Jenna:I can throw it? Julien: *You can throw it* Jenna: I don't kno- Julien: *SESAME BALL*

[@emmawood9380]

The 2 dislikes are Kermit and Peach because they’re jealous of Marbles’ daddy day

[@lukusl3249]

Well, Kermit is with Jenna

[@officerk1693]

Meeple always deserves daddy day

[@autumnmay5211]

“Yeah you can throw anything if you throw it” -Jenna, December 2k18

[@m.s.a2.068]

Autumn May as soon as she said that I thought “that’s it, that’s gonna be my senior quote” 😂

[@izzyequestrian9096]

54:41

[@mollydeutschman9075]

“You can throw anything if you throw it” -Jenna 2018

[@spiderdude2099]

That gruel moment may just be one of Julien's finest moments ever. Even as a Virgo, I appreciated that fuckery.

[@holly-ek9tv]

i would LOVE to see you guys play this again but by guessing the recipe by reading the backstory novel at the beginning of each post instead of the ingredient list

[@jo-yo5en]

Yesss!

[@TheHaremJustu]

You mad genius!!

[@sarasthoughts]

This would be insane hahaha

[@soapytoastpants]

i clicked hoping this was going to be that concept

[@junoxmusic]

omg i'm laughing merely at the idea of this!

[@tatumisweird]

gruelien

[@jaredmaples1759]

You won. Best comment!🏆

[@ausernameisuseless]

Perfection.

[@user-mv5tm8eu5z]

petition to change his twitter handle to gruelien

[@daysleeper999]

you legend

[@jaxthesaxman]

I had to dislike. Not sorry about it

[@swagger1021]

‘pistummus’ made me laugh so hard omfg

[@alexisalcala5701]

Vy Nguyen humstaciomus according to my sister

[@jay-et3wf]

"i went to the toilet and pistammass."

[@stefaniedrew]

I. AM. DYING. "YOU'RE MAKING RICE"

[@LooksByLydia]

Marbles looks so happy in that sling I love it 😭

[@Zebralephant]

Omg I didn't spot him at first

[@ariannaherron]

I love how Kermit wasn't happy until he was in Jenna's hoodie. 😂

[@ilovemyff]

hell yeah new mic holders are so lit

[@PositivelyLizzie]

Irena St I was mesmerized by their beauty, too!!!

[@znyznyzny]

finally

[@Biogrrrl]

They look great

[@13taraliane]

Jenna scream laughing is one of my favourite things. It’s contagious happiness.

[@trishduncan1214]

I listen to these with I study. I got a 97. Jenna and Julien work miracles.

[@anndoherty3434]

Are you ready? Are you ready for the last ingredient? You ready? You ready for it? It’s water

[@shawna4511]

"It doesn't say how much... Just water"

[@kaylaosberg6573]

"Your making rice with those things in it" i was crying

[@ohxlivia]

If nobody includes Jenna’s meltdown from 19:22-20:10 in the next horror edit I want my money back

[@snakesupurnose6325]

Olivia Reynolds 69th like beeeeech

[@paytonball5100]

I was watching this on my lunch break dying of laughter and so my coworkers asked why I was laughing so I streamed it from my phone to the tv and they let us extend our lunch an extra 25 minutes to watch the whole thing

[@bomethia7412]

Payton Ball Iconic tbh

[@LoveNathasha]

Where do you work and are they hiring? Cause your work environment sounds wonderful! xD

[@cholec9230]

i was the tv

[@geemae2476]

Out of all the things that did not happen

[@michealaskerkis1034]

That is so epic

[@adaflorescu3443]

You two should make a holiday podcast where you talk about all your favorite past holiday memories and experiences 🎄🎁❤️

[@Rena0Dawn]

Ada Florescu oh yes please this!!! I love the podcasts where they just tell their life stories!!!

[@themusicalboy26]

ALL IN ON THIS IDEA. Like nostalgia from when they were younger and stuff like presents they got and stuff wanted as a kid. This sounds like a great cozy podcast

[@magdalliee]

And make Julien guess Christmas hits 😅

[@mandim13]

They also need mugs with fancy hot cocoa AND a cabin fire place background. Don't forget some lounge clothes or holiday pajamas!

[@Sarahla91]

Yes yes yes! Do this

[@hayley-rieder-wiley]

Hey! The reason why recipes have a novel up top is because Google won’t index the page in search results unless there’s a certain number of words, and often the recipe won’t count!

[@chrism45]

Put it at the bottom I don't care about your weekend and your niece's birthday I just want the damn recipe.

[@sarahcollett2402]

I literally always wondered why it was like that. Thank you!!

[@kaitiemarie9572]

This doesnt explain why it is all the way at the bottom. Just put the recipe first then go into your blog post.

[@moriahschoech9894]

Y'all are being so damn mean like shit she have you the reasoning you were looking for, settle.

[@kaitiemarie9572]

@@moriahschoech9894 Yeah the person saying they dont care about their life is a little harsh but this is not a good reason or explanation. I thank her for her input but it still not a good reason.

[@beths9929]

I forgot marbles was in this podcast until I read the comments, what a good boy

[@chloeso3318]

Jesus Christ does julien have a license for those guns

[@vbgirl72592]

One recipe in and the laugh scream has arrived. This is the content I sign up for😂😂😂😂

[@abcdefg12039]

"Im gonna take all your rice and make gruel out of it" needs to be a new threat I love it

[@farfetchdsleek]

**looks at screen* **looks down at bowl of cottage cheese and jalapenos* **looks back at screen* oh...

[@impulsivepessimist]

nothing will ever beat "im making gruel"

[@RadexxxHippie]

!!! PETITION FOR JENNA AND JULIEN TO MAKE GRUEL !!! thumbs up

[@LulitaInPita]

With things in it!

[@generaltpatts]

Podcast idea: in a vlog you all mentioned the thing where everyone is 5 people or something away from knowing Kevin Bacon and I think it'd be a funny idea if you both wrote random items, foods, or people etc. And each draw two from a cup and have to tell five things that lead one to the other. Like explaining why one is similar/in relation to the other because of -these five things-. I think Julien would be great at making these things up lol

[@nanathablue]

Yes!! This would be so fun!

[@maggie_schmitt]

5 degrees of kevin bacon!!!

[@tifftiffblake1762]

Is Halvah* the same as Baklava ?

[@charleybrown2346]

Let them see this!

[@KaysieDaniels]

we played this in my stats class! it was a way to help us make logical connections within our hypothesis testing and conclusions!

[@lisacullison79]

Try drunk ginger bread house making! That would be hilarious

[@employeeofthemouth]

one handed ginger bread house making

[@Kiterpuss]

Julien trying to get Jenna to answer "gruel" has the same energy as that video of the dude pronouncing "eyes" as "ee-yes"

[@SeekersSupernatural]

You making Jenna scream laugh at a gruel recipe is the best present I could have ever received on my 30th birthday lol 😂😂😂 Edit: omg thank you all for the likes and birthday wishes you’re all so sweet 😍

[@hnnaa]

Samantha McDowra happy birthday!!

[@Ro-ue3hc]

Happy birthday! You're a ~30 Year Old Lady~ TM now!

[@elissesutton4503]

🎂Happy Birthday 🎈 Hope you're getting to celebrate with the ones you care about🌟

[@BeLikeNexus]

Samantha McDowra happy birthday

[@alicemorgan50]

Happy birthday ❤

[@aleciaharmon8671]

Seriously though. Pinterest recipes are visiting your long winded great aunt, but she feeds you after.

[@blairwaldorf-bass8180]

Jenna coming in hot with these East coast heavy winter foods lol

[@ishabansal7911]

Loving rewatching these podcasts. The only thing helping me have some sanity. Happy that Jenna put more ads now. Gotta keep the cash flow going, fully support the hustle. This is her catalogue which she spent actual time creating. That's sick, my dudes!

[@SarahDaisy98]

19:25 that’s the best Jenna scream laugh I’ve ever heard

[@sayswice5621]

Okay this explains why Jenna was pinning weird shit on Pinterest 😂

[@dantemiguelo8797]

What’s her username?

[@sayswice5621]

Daf Rostro Not sure, but if you search Jenna Mourey it should come up.

[@heidihanna3131]

Bless, I just followed her. Thank you!

[@heidihanna3131]

I found Julian too

[@pogpogpurinn]

I follow julien 😂 i need to follow jenna

[@scribble4397]

can you guys make a podcast of literally just going on buzzfeed and taking a bunch of their quizzes lol

[@0KellieCollins0]

“We’re making spicy cottage chips!” Literally almost peeing my pants I’m laughing so hard

[@411y5un]

Oooo love the new mics, much cleaner look

[@elyssa4159]

omg dying at "gruel", my husband is Chinese and the ingredients instantly reminded me of congee or jook, especially when you said you can add ginger, scallions, and soy sauce! jook is actually really yummy!

[@Qinglin888]

My husband is Chinese too! And yeah, it can be really nice when you put some savory or sweet things in it, really versatile!

[@elissesutton4503]

I was laughing and yelling congee too when he was saying it wasn't rice ☺️

[@elyssa4159]

@@elissesutton4503 me too!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@janepak6723]

i’m korean and i was thinking of jook! brings me back to my stomach flu days where i couldnt digest anything except for water, and jook with soy sauce:)

[@sohhyunmin]

@@janepak6723 omg yes im korean and i guessed jook before julie revealed the answer😀

[@nicolemarielegere5708]

I love that when Jenna cry-laughs my subtitles say [Music]

[@artisthewhepon]

You guys should play guess that animal where you name 5 facts about that animal and the other has to guess what it is

[@madongseoksbiceps]

YES.

[@rovena996]

I knew the meat loaf was meat loaf because meat loaf is chaos. As soon as she said ketchup I was like yup that's meat loaf.

[@amraykovitz]

Meat loaf is chaos 😂😂😂

[@junkmoon-]

Same lmao

[@madi4499]

Meat loaf is my mood

[@riley8327]

take a shot everytime this comment says meatloaf

[@thee.pimparoo]

Jenna: parmesan Julien: is there cheese? Jenna: no no cheese ...

[@andrewwhite5856]

“DINK DINK” YOU KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS 🙌🏻

[@maryeliz0]

"You could throw anything if you throw it." -Jenna Mourey 2018

[@themezzamoons]

Y'all, the "mincemeat" in a mince pie is just a bunch of mashed up fruit and spices, not ground beef!!! Its a traditional Christmas pie from the UK, not a Rachel Trifle!

[@melissablais6030]

Lmao that basically Exactly what I thought. 'Real' mincemeat pie has no meat 😂

[@christinemasternak4427]

Traditionally, mince meat pie included both savory and sweet flavors! Prior to the modern era, people didn’t have lines between sweet and savory that weren’t crossed. They were often combined. That’s why you often got sweet meats and other very rich pastries with both meats and fruits during the Middle Ages. This changed into our modern idea of flavors during the 16th and 17th century!

[@nina.robbs565]

Wait...THERES NO MEAT? WHY IS IT MINCE MEAT THEN?

[@sohhyunmin]

Ok this was an A+ podcast. Only jnj would come up with this topic, make an hour-long podcast out of it, and make it SCREAM LAUGH hilarious.

[@bee6962]

and then do it like 3 more times

[@Zebra4816]

Julien: is it beef bread? Jenna: mmm...sorta Me: ITS MEAT LOAF!!!!!!!!

[@Volleylexa]

ZebraGirl4816 lmfao he was so close

[@loia1242]

*im gonna take all your rice and make gruel out of it*

[@zora9107]

Mr. Marbles enjoying the Julien lap life

[@caity7302]

Zora DeRham julin

[@jalisaalanaye1662]

Shiiiiiiiit I’d be happy too lol

[@JRP02]

@@jalisaalanaye1662 OH mY gOd jALiSaA 😂

[@apatel62889]

I love how mr marbles just stares at jenna the whole podcast, lmao.

[@PlayOnCarrie]

Jenna's scream laugh is literally my favourite thing ever. I've had a tough week and this brought so much life to me. Thank you both!

[@mikaylacraghead9660]

julien: does a fire segway jenna: **looks at the camera like shes in the office** (who else going through this podcast in quarantine :)

[@arthurruckman9157]

Mikayla Craghead me but only because i rewatch this entire episode at least 3 times a month

[@Sarahla91]

Me: *drops everything* Jenna and Julien have a new podcast

[@mollymayfield6227]

Julien- Does it end up in a patty form? Jenna- No Julien- Okay... so it’s a square patty

[@krowko]

i've run out of jenna videos to rewatch so now i'm binging podcast the alleviate my sadness while jenna is away

[@alyssafreda5203]

Video idea! One of my favorite things to do is Wikipedia leaps where you pick two unrelated topics and try to get from one of the topic’s Wikipedia page to the other by clicking links on the pages, and whoever gets there in the fewest clicks wins. Also, the new mics look really sharp!

[@kikis.w0rld]

i need a "out of context" video on JUST this podcast please

[@LamaDelReyVEVO]

at first I was like, ok... weird game julien reads the first recipe and im bursting laughing

[@ciannabanana9511]

crimescrimescrimes meeeeeeeee

[@trashmammal4986]

Halva is a middle eastern sweet!! Im happy you chose that as one of the recipes :')

[@annadavied7253]

I was pretty sure he kept saying Khalda, which is a neighborhood I would visit when I lived in Amman, Jordan. Brought back good memories. =)

[@AM-gs7bm]

I straight up came back for "gruel" and I laughed just as much the second time

[@morganmuldoon]

I was so lost last week with out ya'll! Peace, love, and dink.

[@morganmuldoon]

Thanks for all the likes I'm always ignored somehow. ❤

[@meganrowan-7581]

Morgan Muldoon ignored by j&j? do you see how many comments they get...

[@morganmuldoon]

No I mean I don't get likes in general, my comments are usually lost in the abyss!

[@allycarter5958]

My favorite couple on Earth thanks Mom and dad

[@GoJoLy2301]

“Pistummus” 😂 that part has me dying

[@megzeman]

I laughed so hard at gruel that not only was I crying BUT I started gagging and I thought I was going to lose it. I’ve never laughed so hard I’ve gagged, so thank you

[@bamthankyoumaam]

Sad there's no Vlogmas but glad there's a new podcast episode! Hey, Dink Fam!

[@ktj1189]

Only 20 min into the podcast and I already NEED a part 2 😂😂😂

[@MeganTrimble]

I'm traumatized by the idea of just microwaving some cheese, and eating it, by itself,

[@officerk1693]

Same lmfao like what?

[@sillygoose_stephie]

Megan Trimble don’t judge it till you try it dude it’s really good 😂 4 thin slices of cheese (i like marble), 30deconds to a minute in the microwave and then i let the grease drain off and DAMN a childhood favourite tbh lmao

[@shaskins15]

@@sillygoose_stephie me too!

[@nina.robbs565]

My brother and I would just plop a mexican cheese blend in the microwave, it's like nachos with no meat, chips, or beans

[@elliot_rat]

@@sillygoose_stephie its been 3 years how are your arteries

[@calebwashere1154]

Jenna: “One heaping cup of freshly grated parmesan cheese.” *time passes* Julien: “Did you say cheese anywhere?” Jenna: “No, no cheese.”

[@SunshineOfMyLife28]

My life goal is to achieve Kerm's level of comfort and leisure while Jenna holds him. What's that like?

[@erinevans6739]

I'm a Food Scientist and I actually had to do this for a test in my Food Chemistry class in college.

[@abbisnews1]

Erin Evans what do you do as a food scientist?

[@mandilee1]

That sounds like a cool thing to be tbh

[@Dkclayrd]

Ok I have questions 😂 this sounds like such a cool job

[@mukiz00]

I used to have a food tech/scientist friend back in college and her explaination is that they focus more on food production,like how big companies produce products that are similar to home made/natural food. Also they do research with people taste buds and what not.

[@DoomsdayDollie]

My fiance and I play this game on long car rides! Only downside is now pinterest keeps showing me keto recipes lmao

[@iwatchedbobsburgerswaytoom452]

come children, into the van there’s spicy cottage cheese

[@blairwaldorf-bass8180]

When Jenna said Kermit was hot and Julien said he was nasty i was waiting for her to say, “he’s like a hot pocket, hot on the outside NASTY on the inside” 😂

[@tahasultan5398]

OMG! I said that too

[@blairwaldorf-bass8180]

Taha Sultan lol it was such a missed opportunity

[@officerk1693]

He rly is nasty on the inside. bad boy.

[@katya.g524]

gruel is kinda like porridge, which i ate a lot growing up in russia in lithuania. it's rly not that bad omg. but now it always makes me think of michael in the office. "prison mike."

[@shelbyb9056]

To elaborate, the “novel” before the recipe is for search engine optimization (SEO) and also as a way to plug their other recipes or affiliate links. Sprinkling keywords or phrases that relate to the topic/ingredients/recipe mentioned in the article allows Google to better understand what that article is about and makes it more likely to rank high when people search for a recipe! 😊

[@Vasaloloa]

Every so often, I can't stop myself from coming back here to listen to Jenna scream-laugh 😂😂

[@deelaam9100]

Me too !! This is my faaaaaavorite video on KZbin EVER

[@deelaam9100]

Currently watching this @ 1 am while eating chips

[@hauntedmasc]

"Gruel" just made Jenna and my boyfriend scream laugh so hard, and I'm dead. Love you guys so much. And baba ganoush is fantastic and you guys should try it because it's delicious.

[@mollymayfield6227]

When Julien created the board called “podcast recipes” yesterday, I went on Pinterest and became very confused... it all makes since now

[@mollymayfield6227]

But ngl it kind of ruined it because I looked at some of the recipes and could guess what they were

[@LulitaInPita]

Sense*

[@lizavetasharakova4621]

I had halva in Russia, but it was made out of sunflower seeds instead of pistachio or almonds

[@rubytate1720]

Watching this after Jenna’s last video cause I prefer her crying because gruel

[@GemCityKid]

Can you paint a mannequin's face green and invite SimplyNailLogical to the podcast?

[@georgahasenstab5959]

Yess

[@pogpogpurinn]

That means they have to edit afterwars. And podcasts dont usually require much editing

[@MArabrab]

Hell yeah!

[@itsfitmadiwilson]

Ohhh what you cookin (In the “who you fightin” voice)

[@xBxRxExExZxYx]

"this recipe is a dream come true for at least one person out there who cannot get enough of bananas with everything" *BEYYYN enters the chat*

[@ABionicTurtle]

You guys make me so happy. I was having a super shitty day at work, I cried because a patient yelled at me. When I went to lunch I pulled up the latest podcast because I knew it would make me laugh, thank you guys so much!

[@fraeni90]

Jenna.exe broke due to gruel