Podcast: Lowering Metastasis Risk

[@waynebusse6376]

The first four years after being diagnosed with neuroindocrine pancreatic cancer saw constant growth and doubling of tumor size every six months along with five major abdominal surgeries and two rounds of Y-90 to my liver. Then, four and a half years ago after a physical by my GP found high sugar, high cholesterol, high BP, my wife and I switched to a low fat vegan diet. I lost 50 lbs and my wife lost 93 lbs and we have kept the weight off since. Soooo, what about my cancer? There have been no new tumors and the last three tumors near my heart disappeared from the scans last year and have not returned. My new favorite word is "unremarkable" used to describe the last two scans. My wife is off her arthritis meds and is no longer stiff. She used to stand still for ten seconds after getting to her feet before she could take the first step and hobbled around stiff as a board. I reversed my type-two diabetes, high BP, and my ldl runs around 75 verses 160 before I changed my diet. Let food be thy medicine !!!

[@davidlundy9142]

could you share a typical day of eating or what you mean by low fat..Curious what that entails and how much healthy fats you include. thank you and congrats on your amazing turnaround!

[@MLK97017]

Thank you for sharing! Gives others hope a change in diet can help serious conditions.

[@happycook6737]

Thank you. I had uterine cancer 6 months ago and struggle with eating. I see now how important a low fat, animal free, high vegetable diet is. 👏👍

[@GregMeadMaker]

It's about time that dietary intervention prescriptions become standard protocol . In addition, maintaining a healthy circadian rhythm through regulation of ensuring blue light during the daytime and lack of blue light wavelength at night is very helpful in protecting especially healthy melatonin levels. Melatonin is an anti-carcinogen and antioxidant, present in nearly all vegetables and fruits (some more than others), and produced endogenously in healthy people under the right conditions, (but not as much as we get older), but notably rendered inaccessible within 1.5 seconds upon the SCN detection of blue wavelength light at night , (any non-red or non-amber light at night). Thank you, Dr Greger, for raising awareness & keeping us healthier ❤️ --Audrey in Chicago BTW, I am an ovarian teratoma cancer survivor now for 48 years. Original prognosis was 3 months life expectancy after my 19th birthday. Kudos to science!

[@karenartis4472]

Amazing! Thank you for sharing.

[@NR8188]

My oncologist told me to have a milkshake when I tried to discuss dietary approaches as adjunct to my treatment. I got a new oncologist instead.

[@wadepatton2433]

GREAT decision!

[@psiclops521]

Sadly, my mom kept feeding my father that Ensure garbage. It's packed with sugar. She didn't know. Cancer got him in under a year. All I could get them to do was use Turkey Tail mushroom powder but it wasn't enough.

[@karenartis4472]

My mom’s radiation oncologist told her to keep eating all the same processed, high-calorie foods she had always had in her diet. He told her not to lose weight as that meant recurrence. She died a torturous death after her Stage 1 breast cancer metastasized to her bones and fractured her hip, and then moved to her lungs. Every breath she took the last week she was alive sounded like she was under water. Doctors like that should not be allowed to continue their practices.

[@imperfectvegan5724]

I learn so much from these podcasts. Thank you so much for sharing!

[@moffig1]

I love to listen to these podcasts while cooking/cleaning

[@Wildgrovehomestead]

Awesome information. Thank you. The work you do is invaluable

[@ainsleyameerali7622]

I have said this 100000000 times .... Dr G for president!!!!

[@JenDoe1]

This was fascinating! Thank you so much. I’m tired of hearing about starving the cancer by eating no sugar.

[@wadepatton2433]

No sugar is a good idea all by itself. But yes, it's best to get the WHOLE story and not just what is distributed through "normal" channels. Good health to you.

[@JenDoe1]

@@wadepatton2433 and good health to you, too!

[@wadepatton2433]

@@emilybh6255 I consume LOADS of fruit sugar (whole) and nearly zero processed sugar. 98% of all our ills from sugar are from processed sugars. Having three different fruits in my spicey carbohydrate (oatmeal) mix this morning.

[@edrabogucki401]

@@emilybh6255 Thank you for the link! I’ve now watched the video. I understood many of his chemistry analogies. Again, thank you!🙏🏻🦋

[@antonellahuron496]

Thank you. I'm trying to use nutrition to avoid relapse of breast cancer. 🙏

[@2006017637]

Only animal sources of palmitic acid were mentioned. But there is impressive amounts of it in cocoa butter (and chocolate), as well as in coconut oil.

[@edrabogucki401]

@2006017637g • I think he started by mentioning junk food. At any rate he says we can find the sources for these reports on his website pages at the videos and podcasts pages.

[@skippy6462]

It's good that you mention that because Dr Greger doesn't recommend plant based saturated fat either so coconut oil, coconut milk and chocolates isn't on his daily dozen. No oils, sugar or salt which rules out all ultra processed foods too. Even as a vegan it’s too easy to eat because junk food is everywhere now.

[@roger1uk676]

Excellent information!🙏🙏

[@jerrydaddio6769]

I have to listen. Knowing which direction is everything when you are living with cancer…

[@mymom9466]

Thank you Dr. Greger!!!

[@paulapapa8233]

You are a real Legend! 🙏🤍 Thank you Dr Greger

[@etiennedurkstra]

Thanks for information and research. I eat 98% plant base. But what about the fat in nuts and seeds? Are those fats also bad if you already have cancer?

[@Wildgrovehomestead]

This is a great question. I hope it is addressed

[@cherij7000]

My understanding is that fats from foods like avocado, nuts and seeds are fine, and indeed healthy. You just need to keep your total fat intake less that 20 % of total calories. A really good app called Cronometer can help give you an idea of all of the nutrients you are getting in your diet. Hope that helps.

[@edrabogucki401]

I use Dr. Greger’s Daily Dozen app, which lays out each food type and how much is a serving. Nuts and seeds are like 1/4 cup nuts, 2 T seeds or seed butters.

[@christinehouser645]

Those fats are not fully saturated, and therefore not likely to bind to the receptor for saturated fats. Vegetable sources that DO contain significant quantities of saturated fats are found in coconut and palm products - so watch out for those if you are already dealing with a cancer diagnosis. (I work in this field of lifestyle medicine, the same field in which Dr. Greger is now primarily based.)

[@skippy6462]

Nuts, seeds and avocados also have fibre.

[@yogawithjengentleyoga3614]

Should I send this info to my uncle with stage four cancer?

[@gracielakeffer5629]

I would

[@tahiyamarome]

As a cancer patient myself i recommend you reach out to your uncle and ask them if they are open to information that you have vetted. IF they say yes, explain the credentials of this site and then send carefully curated items that relate only to their particular diagnosis. Going forward do NOT send them every stray scrap of digital nonsense that mentions cancer. I can't tell you how much unsubstantiated garbage i have to wade through bc someone heard i have cancer. It's beyond thoughtless.

[@maf1350]

Dr Greger, have you read Jane Mclelland " how to starve cancer" ? Where shedescribes, that cancer can switch between different nutrients and several pathways within fat, glucose, protein? She has seen much success in using drugs like metformin, doxycyclin, chloroquin, dewormer, statins etc off label

[@annyhilario5943]

Doc how can I reduce the side effects from Tamoxifen? Or any immunotherapy treatment?

[@cherierhynes8514]

We need your goodness in every way. On the job you are #1.🎉❤👩‍🎤 only lying to oneself happens in any group. 😑

[@carl13579]

Is there palmitic acid in hearts of palm?

[@christinehouser645]

Hearts of palm are a plant-based item coming from various sorts of palm and sabal plants. It does contain some saturdated fat, but its total amount of fat is low, and about 3/4 of the fat it contains is not saturated. Not saturated (unsaturated) fats are usually considered to be helpful. I was not able to find any resources indicating palmitic acid present in heart of palm, but any saturated fat could presumably bind to the CD-36 receptor for saturated fats (the one Dr. Greger mentioned). So, there is a little bit of saturated fat in this item, but overall it is a good veggie item with lots of nutrients.

[@zanireskez]

Is fish included in the term "meat " ????

[@tahiyamarome]

Is palmitate that is now added to almost every kind of dairy and plant-based commercially produced milk also contributing to this?

[@christinehouser645]

Great question! Technically, yes, because palmitate contains palmitic acid (linked to a type of alcohol molecule). It is usually added to low fat products to better stabilize the vitamin A in them, so that their vitamin A content doesn't degrade over time. Generally, though, the amount is small.

[@manumaster1990]

nice video

[@Magnulus76]

Coconut oil: ok. Palm oil: bad.

[@JW4REnvironment]

Isn’t coconut oil high in saturated fat? Which is not a healthful type of fat?

[@Magnulus76]

@@JW4REnvironment While saturated fat isn't exactly health food, it appears that the saturated fats in coconut oil are the least bad of all the saturated fats. I'd still limit coconut oil consumption if you have risk factors for heart disease.

[@SA-lw3xi]

both bad!!!

[@lindaw2652]

Does losing weight increase the amount of Omega 6 in your blood?

[@NutritionFactsOrg]

Hi, Linda W! There's not a lot of evidence on the effects of weight loss on blood fatty acid levels. One 1992 study found that omega-3 fatty acid levels increased with weight loss in obese women. Sometimes, rapid weight loss can change blood lipid levels temporarily, as the body gets rid of its own fat. This may also depend on how someone is losing weight. If a weight loss diet is high in omega-6 fatty acids, then it would naturally increase levels.I wish I had a better answer for you, but, "we don't know, until we put it to the test." If more evidence becomes available, I am sure it will be presented here on NutritionFacts. Meanwhile, you can find everything on our site related to weight loss here: nutritionfacts.org/topics/weight-loss/ I hope that helps! -Christine Kestner, MS, CNS, LDN, NutritionFacts.org Health Support Volunteer

[@helicart]

Starving cancer is the way to go. When one overeats, the body does not catabolise dysfunctional cells as readily. These include cancer cells. When one has hypocaloric intake, dysfunctional cells are prioritized for autophagy, including cancer cells. Eventually, science may find it's total Calories that drive many disease processes, not carbs or fat per se.

[@Nessa4321]

Does this now mean coconut oil, being a saturated fat, can help cancer spead, or has that not yett been 'put to the test'?

[@misslawlesss]

yes, its known that the health craze for coconut oil and the research around it fueling on was mostly paid by coconut oil companies, cutting down rainforests...

[@cherij7000]

I believe it has been put to the test. All the plant based docs recommend not using it. It is basically pure saturated fat. That was some marketing we all bought into.

[@Nessa4321]

Didnt know that - thx.

[@Nessa4321]

@@misslawlesss Thanks - didnt know the research was industry funded. Very disappointig.

[@tahiyamarome]

Back in the 80's i lived w a sri lankan roommate. She swore up and down that coconut oil was topical for hair, skin and wood furniture and warned me away from ingesting it. If the people who have been using it for 100's of years tell you how to use it, i listen.

[@barbaradavis1712]

Is it raw broccoli or cooked?

[@MindVersusMisery]

Cooking help to increase absorption of the nutrients in broccoli since it then becomes softer/mushier and more easily digested. However, if you are cooking broccoli, make sure to slice and dice the broccoli about 45 minutes before cooking. That way a very health promoting phytonutrient called sulphurophane is created within the broccoli. Cooking broccoli directly destroyes the enzymes necessary for the sulphophane to be created, thus making the broccoli less nutritious. Good for you for eating your vegetables!

[@wadepatton2433]

Raw is better because heat breaks down the enzymes we need for getting the most from broccoli. But cooked broccoli is better than no broccoli at all. Also eating just a little raw broccoli (along with) should supply enough enzyme to optimize cooked broccoli digestion.

[@cherij7000]

There are benefits to eating both raw and cooked cruciferous vegetables. You can add mustard to cooked cruciferous to help activate the enzyme myrosinase. Check out Dr. Greger's post on this.

[@joycebaker5568]

@@MindVersusMisery ougg

[@alanmadeira-metz1380]

Broccoli can be steamed for 2-4 minutes, to release myrosinase. It should not be eaten immediately, but wait a few minutes for more myrosinase to form.

[@mandybradley3079]

Thank you. I’m sure I got cancer from my bad American diet. French fries and too much processed junk. You are such a blessing.

[@the12288]

❤

[@harveywarne9030]

Notice you don't say anything about all the palm oil in the "foods" in the center isles of grocery stores You constantly pick on meat and whole groups of people lived on nothing but meat and fat...eskimos and africian tribes.

[@writerchik44]

Because that is the most condensed food items with it. So of course clinicians are going to track that intake to see the effects more visibly and timely ways

[@movement2contact]

I got wasted last night, I hate myself... ✌🏻💀

[@tamcon72]

Do better next time, is all.

[@movement2contact]

@@tamcon72 This *was* that next time... Many nexts later... 💩 I think my friend might have a drinking problem... 🙄

[@pumasheen]

@@movement2contact alcohol is a carcinogen. Your body metabolizes ethanol into acetaldehyde, which is carcinogenic. It’s classified as a group 1 carcinogen by the International Agency for Research on Cancer, which means that we know for sure that is causes cancer in humans. So, knock it off.

[@wadepatton2433]

Cannabis is a good bit safer for you than alcohol, IF you live where it is permitted. It can help one break his/her alcohol addiction too. Assumes you're of age and not just trolling.

[@edrabogucki401]

@@pumasheen SO glad I’ve never developed much of a taste for it 😃

[@LF-pe9ok]

I don’t wanna sound ungrateful, but it really gets on my nerves when you talk with that weird skepticism in your voice. It’s just really overdone and it makes it difficult to concentrate on what you’re actually saying.

[@woodlakesound]

Yeah, he’s got a weird delivery but it gets less irritating over time. 😜

[@GregMeadMaker]

For me , Dr Greger's presentation method is perfect. When I recall facts I learned from him, I hear them in my head with his voice. I think that once you become a regular and listen daily to his podcast and/or online lectures from various seminars, that you too will welcome and recognize and learn from Dr Greger. He is like no other. He is genuine in his presentation and for his goals to help everyone live a healthier lifestyle, especially through the foods we choose. God bless Dr Greger. --Audrey in Chicago

[@woodlakesound]

@@GregMeadMaker I didn’t discredit him, did I? I’ve listened to many hours of the good Dr. and find the information mostly helpful. The hyped up attention on individual nutrients doesn’t suit my sensibilities about nutrition in general but I understand the reasoning for it being offered up that way. Also, I wasn’t criticizing his ‘method’ of presentation, just the inflections in his modulating pitch delivery. Kinda reminds me of Barney Fife in the old Andy Griffith show. Check it out if you don’t know what I referring to. Yes, and Dr Gregor is cool dude! Maybe you weren’t responding to my post but the original poster LF. Sorry if I misunderstood.

[@GregMeadMaker]

@@woodlakesound Hi, Cory 🌞 I was responding to LF. IMO Dr Greger is a master of modulating pitch delivery. I go out of my way to read the research literature. I very much appreciate that Dr Greger does this too, and explains the details in a professional and expert way. The more I understand how the body works I try to do my best to take care of my body through healthy lifestyle. Cut to the chase recommendations of what or what not to eat without understanding WHY does not satisfy me in the slightest. --hope you have a beautiful and healthy day! --Audrey in Chicago

[@alanmadeira-metz1380]

@@GregMeadMaker Unfortunately, Dr. Greger does not mention studies that contradict his beliefs. For example, he doesn't believe that it's healthy to eat to eat oily, omega-3 fish like salmon. Yet, a study was reported in May in the American Journal of Nutrition. which found that eating oily fish could add almost 5 years of life expectancy, a tremendous increase, the same increase that a person could get from giving up smoking. The data in the study came from the Framingham Study. No, you will not hear about this study from vegans.