PODCAST - Starfield: Shattered Space (DEEP DIVE)

[@IrishHandGren8]

Hate that this wont be a Lets Play, your Let’s Play has some of the best reactions and Gophering / Gopherisms ever. I’m one of those ppl that watches EVERY lets play, even if its just on in the background and Starfield had me rolling laughing more than any but Leonard.

[@Aelelisevar]

"Gophering/Gopherism", fitting I suppose. Can't say I've watched every single let's play Gopher made. I started watching his videos back when he was doing his Skyrim Mod Sanctuary videos. Still watch his let's play when I have some time "to do nothing at all".

[@XKathXgames]

You: Worrying about powers. Me: Always forget I have powers and die.

[@MichaelACurtis]

I remember the days... Please insert disk 24 of 25 to continue, Error detected, please insert disk 1 of 25 to restart

[@JesseJamison-f6i]

SMH... I bet millennials these days I have no idea what a 3 1/2 floppy is 😂

[@pmaxgray]

@@JesseJamison-f6i It's a 3D printed version of the save icon, isn't it?

[@Boner_Jamz]

@@JesseJamison-f6i Just unzip your pants if you want to see a 3 1/2 inch floppy. 😁

[@losmosquitos1108]

@@JesseJamison-f6iand how should they, tbh? 🫢

[@JesseJamison-f6i]

@@losmosquitos1108 where's the sense of curiosity? And I mean no offense by this, there's a huge gap between the air that I grew up in, and the next generation.. there's not as much of a hunger for knowledge.. it's important to know where we came from and how we got to where we are today.. but with some of them, not all, they get to enjoy all of the technology and comforts of it, but with no interest in how it came to be?

[@SuperKillJoy15]

Gopher, dont apologize for pausing. We are here for you, if people just want to watch the traiker they can go find it on their own

[@fanofentropy2280]

I remember getting one of the first 1gb drives available back in the days and thinking that I would never ever need more storage. Now I'm using a 10tb drive as mass storage and I wish it was bigger.

[@ohauss]

Just bought a new mobile - with 1TB of storage!

[@PuggetronicsPioneer]

Why do you need so much space?

[@GBRyker61]

Very first gaming pc I had was a Commodor 64. I played games on both cartridges and floppys on that thing.

[@lastdayer101]

It was very clear that Va'ruun was pulled back from the spotlight in order to build mystery for a future storyline. They planned this from the beginning just like they said, but the first goal was to create a massive space game. If you saw the interview with the retired designer, there were huge systems that got cut because there just wasn't time in the schedule/budget to reach a high quality bar. Every time Bethesda adds something people say "Should have been there at launch" and they will continue to say that because they are ignorant to the realities of how things are made. You have a set amount of money and time, and whatever you create is what gets shipped or cancelled. Bethesda could have easily made a mass effect derivative game with big guardrails and no shipbuilding, but that wasn't the game they wanted to make, and I'm so happy we get to play the big-open space game. It can only get better from where it started.

[@dantefettman354]

Exactly. If I remember correctly, Bruce Nesmith (The retired designer you mentioned, unless you're talking about someone else) stated that they could've invested more time, money, and resources into making further improvements to Starfield's planet exploration. However, he said that if they went that route, they would've had to cut the entire ship building system. In my opinion, I'm glad they stuck with keeping the modular ship customization because it's by far the most engaging gameplay system in the game for me.

[@lastdayer101]

@@dantefettman354 Yeah i'm talking about Bruce. It is super unfortunate that the ship manufacturing/survival elements didn't make it into the game. A large part of people's unmet expectation stems from how purposeless the barren planets feel. If people understood, "Ok, this planet is great for building my ship, this planet is for my fuel, this planet is where the cool stuff is.", They wouldn't aimlessly wander the empty worlds thinking "Where is all the content?" I can understand players frustration at that, but I hope over time such frustrations are alleviated by new game systems, and more procedural variety.

[@billycarter6992]

They likely had this planned from the beginning, but player feedback informed aspects of it.

[@SabiJD]

Two things; loading games from tapes was a right pain. Rescue On Fractalus was probably my favourite from that era (such an inventive game). Not that I can remember much else, given my age then, but yeah, on Series X a game like Skyrim takes about 4secs to load a save, or less than a minute from turning on the machine to being in game. Just *hoping* a tape would actually load - and knowing some were going up cause you more problems - feels so strange in retrospect. I used flippy discs far more, and kinda hated them more... A satisfying 'clunk' when inserting and ejecting, but they seemed the most unstable medium, and corrupted far too easily. Maybe that's not historically true, but it bloody felt like it... Or perhaps it was the Amiga 500+ adding issues. Second thing; is iHUD for Skyrim on Xbox ever going to make a re-appearance? I started building a new LO a few weeks back, for the first Skyrim playthrough in an absolute age, and iHUD was always first on the list. There seems to be no comparable replacement. It's on F4, and works like a charm still, but not Skyrim. Oh, on Shattered Space; not played SF all year - barring Elite Dangerous-style check-ins on certain [invariably underwhelming] updates, and I was one of the gullible £100 at launch players. I did not buy a 'NASApunk' space game to be locked onto a purple cartoon world where people talk about 'Great Serpents'... I can understand why it clicks with some people, but I find that house ridiculous as opposed to intriguing. I've already paid for it, but I will not be playing it anytime soon. SF needs hefty modding attention to fix as much of it as possible. If the will is barely there on PC, then the trickle down to Xbox for the mods that matter will be minimal. Er, fingers crossed for TES...

[@justinpratt6341]

I like your optimisum on the scale of hand crafted locations. I feel the same way

[@nealderiggi3945]

I am happy that I will be playing it in October. Spooky story during spooky month. Not too happy about what it will do to the mods I am using but still worth it. If anyone including Gopher wants to make the gun fights epic experiences use these three mods: Double enemy numbers, Bedlam- Dungeon randomizer and Ganymede -improved system encounter levels.

[@Jcewazhere]

Glory to the house of Quark!

[@AdamaSanguine]

I drove around for about 30-45 minutes, back when the Rev-8 dropped. It was pretty fun. Then I got hit with a common issue were I couldn't exit the buggy, due to a conflict with StarUI. I got it sorted out, after finding a "workaround" online. It was fun for a bit, but I did think it would be better if I had some place NEW to explore. Because driving around three planets I knew very well, were still kind of mmuh.. The best thing about the Rev-8 (that I discovered last minute) was it DOES have a "PEW-PEW" tied to the head tracking. Good times. Edit Fixed grammar Also wanted to point out the "irony" of the car being referred to as a "Buggy". Both in-game and by Bethesda. I'm pretty sure it's intentional.

[@JesseJamison-f6i]

@Gophers Vids... The entire experience is handcrafted, or at least a majority of it... Not only that, but you can leave at your leisure.. you're not "planet locked" or "mission-locked" or even "system locked" for that matter... So if you have business to take care of halfway across the Galaxy or wherever.. you can leave in the middle of a mission and go do what you need to do or whenever you'd like.. and come back later.

[@Rincenso]

How about pausing the loading of the game (from tape) before it started just to listen to the music? :P

[@DaisyCloverbee]

Our first computer was a Tandy CoCo. We bought magazines and typed the games into the computer. I wish we still had that machine to show to the grandkids.

[@Kliv]

I feel like modern gamers are used to wait even more than 10 minutes to play, before you could just put your cartdridge later on a cd and play on your console, now you get a code in the box and have to download the game + day 1 patch the size of the game.

[@BionicleJackson]

My plan has been to play through the dlc with a character that has been a Varuun following besty of Andreja, who has only completed the corpo questline. Minimal superpowers and primarily a mele sneak-thief. I think the character is around the mid-30s level wise, but I haven't played the game for months, so idk. As you say, we'll see. I am interested to see how (or if) the dlc responds to devoted followers of The Great Serpent.

[@XKathXgames]

Really wanna get my hands on that particle minigun

[@Strusiex7]

I think we will also decide whether we will reform House Varuun or not, and whether there will be new spaceships of House Varuun. Maybe Andreja as a companion, the former double agent will have something to say or Tomisar. I'm curious about this thread , vibe and lore

[@OnMy1s]

Commerdoor 64 eith the trippy flashing lights on the load screen

[@woolenthreads]

And before he starts the Deep dive, i start hearing "when I was a boy stories". Remember when you had to make games yourself by punching cards for a program in Basic to submit to a card reader? On the "handcrafted" comment.... It could be done, what they would need to do is have someone generate the landforms separately and then construct a couple of possible locations or quests in each. If it were done right then it might prove to be more enjoyable as no one suffers from Loadingscreenitis so much. Still they did mention the DLC size as equivalent to previous DLC's so.... Shivering Isles? It's probably just a water world with one landmass. For handcrafted planets, could you imagine teams of modders coming together to handcraft a star system... like Starfield: Britain? I think I need to get in and play around with the shipcrafting for my Va'ruun character in order to get the Vehicle module, though perhaps they'll have vehicle hiring LOL I only remember to use powers when I get confused about somethings, like I'll use the life-sight when I'm boarding a big ship and can't tell where the remaining vict.... people are. Loved the Marvin the Martian accent LOL.

[@lisbethbredgaard7835]

Everytime I`ve walked around on planets I se that the `map` behind me dissapears and more `map` and poi appears.

[@hannesture9313]

Why would you be able to sense star stuff of enemies that havent spawned yet? That makes no sense.

[@dead_buttons]

Wait, you still do podcasts on Thursdays? Where can I find those? I thought you stopped that years ago!

[@XKathXgames]

They knew they wanted that, but do you think the game would have been out?

[@1WolfFan]

I feel like Bethesda saw the "Ordinator" perk mod, and just got the wrong idea about why it was popular. It wasn't popular because it had tons of perks to spend points on, or even because the perk-tree itself was expansive. (not JUST quantity here) It was popular, because you could customize EVERYthing to YOUR play style. If you decided to stick with one particular skill, you could become a god among men and mer in that particular skill (and somewhat quickly, if you really focused on it). But if you "jack of all trades" -ed it, you were stuck pretty weak all around, but you could still get by pretty well. And every range in between. ;) Ordinator was good because it had OPTIONS, not quantity.

[@prospero7849]

Sometimes these game podcasts feel like modern movie trailers where they spoil most of the story before you get to watch the movie; just let people have the suspense when they actually play the game.

[@Evan056]

I don't know if anything could really get me to want to play Starfield again; I'll just watch from the sidelines on this one!

[@HereticReborn]

Looks kind of cool. Might actually buy the game now just for the expansion.

[@Jcewazhere]

Ratchet and Clank had several entirely hand crafted planets you could walk around! They were about 50ft in diameter though :P

[@aaronfreeman8252]

I'm going to be waiting a little while before I bite. I've got other games to play and am waiting for modding to have a larger uptick

[@HeruKane]

Sooo yeah. My view of this is "nope". I like the designed world but nope on the horror aspect.

[@wendyg4382]

Starfield meets Dead space 4

[@SPITSPHIRE]

When people think of "a planet" in starfield, they aren't thinking about the entire how-ever-many-hundreds-of-square-kilometers, they are thinking of the main POI section of the planet. So for Jemison they are thinking of new atlantis, or for chyanne they are thinking of Akila City. Id say about zero percent chance anyone is actually thinking bethesda meant they were literally going to create an _entire_ planet, especially since bethesda has already said the dlc is about 50 locations.

[@GophersVids]

I can guarantee with some certainty that there WILL be people screaming at Bethesda IF the entire planet is not hand crafted. I wish it wasn't the case. But I am actually willing to bet money on that :)

[@CaptnNMorgan1996]

I avoided the ryugen quest line on my first play through because I heard it was boring. My character decided nothing matters after ng+ and chose to be a baddy, so i played it then. I actually really enjoyed it, it is a lot slower than the other ones, but the dialogue is great and there are some really cool benefits at the end.

[@jordick8427]

Sounds like Shattered Space is going to be what I wanted from the base game; hand-crafter map with lots of hand crafted points of interests to explore. Which is a shame, really. The base game was so bad that I never bought the game, so I doubt I'll even try this DLC either, because I would still have to suffer through the base game in order to play the DLC.

[@LNER985]

@@jordick8427 The base game isn't bad.

[@martinmanley4197]

I remember tape drives😂

[@davidrthurber7547]

I remember all of that too

[@Strusiex7]

Nishina Station quest, two realities

[@lisbethbredgaard7835]

I hate it!!!

[@Strusiex7]

@@lisbethbredgaard7835 Yes i hate this mission too, seceral endings

[@Strusiex7]

I mean several endings, frustrating

[@Rincenso]

Va'Run'kai? If one is a Swede one find that name somewhat amusing. :)

[@rainoflead1516]

Beth starts their dlc around level 10 anyway

[@DreddPirateRoberts]

They damned well better have groats on Va'ruun'Kai.

[@rainoflead1516]

Do you not have an earlier lower level save from your main character? And just play from rhere.

[@GophersVids]

Would take a while to dig it out and figure out which one is which. I have several thousand saves now. But I also never like doing that for some reason. It's like I am rewriting the characters story.

[@XKathXgames]

Completely handcrafted I imagine the POIs are placed by hand, but I doubt they won{t use generation then modify them.

[@georgelangley6806]

Dark.

[@Ubeogesh]

DID I HEAR SKYRIM CHAPTER 11????? 😱😱😱

[@nakor667]

You should play Thief Gold and Thief II, with both modded out. So immersive, even now.

[@Chad4401]

It amazing KZbinrs think whining and hating on the game is why the dlc is what is, this has been development for longer than a year stop it.

[@GophersVids]

As far as we know, the DLC wasn't started until after the release of the game. And I cannot imagine Bethesda would not have listened to the criticisms they were hearing when developing the DLC.

[@squallion777]

I'm going to be incredibly disappointed if Andraja isn't part of this DLC and has new dialogue, I'm hoping she is how we start the DLC, but she was not mentioned once in this sneak peak. especially if you had romanced her

[@killean2645]

I imagine they wouldn't mention her because that would be pretty big spoilers (even if the spoiler is pretty obvious). Though I wonder how they'll handle her personal quest, considering it just won't make sense anymore, no matter how they spin it.

[@t.t6294]

she is and her quest choices will affect the DLC

[@t.t6294]

@@killean2645 tim lamb confirmed her quest matters in the DLC

[@squallion777]

@@t.t6294 how did you find out she was involved?

[@t.t6294]

@@squallion777 Tim lamb interview in gamescom. Also Sam's VA said he's involved too. I'm guessing it's like far harbor. You can take any companion but Andraja will be the star similar to Nick

[@t.t6294]

it's one handcrafted Tile around the city of Dazra. the rest of the planet is most probably procedural but with PoIs that fit the lore of the planet

[@milowadlin]

I felt like you used the "detect life" ability too much in your playthrough. As a consequence you were shooting intervening walls a heck of a lot. Might actually help to limit it. First, get your sense of where the walls are in a new area and then detect life, and plan out your attack?

[@GophersVids]

Might help make the game feel better, just not sure if it will help me give an honest review. I'm going to try to limit how much I use the OP powers to get a feel for how the gameplay is, and I will try some areas without detect life too, but I'll have to keep that in mind when discussing the game.

[@Justanobody8472]

1st

[@billsharp7698]

Love the thought of playing the game without some powers, or restricted when they get used. Would add some edginess.

[@XKathXgames]

I mean I've been doing well with all difficulty options to extreme. And I never upgrade powers.

[@TheTimtam112]

Just want to say that I think the powers only worked in that mission because the enem,ies were already thgere. I don't think it'll work in the DLC

[@GophersVids]

Why not?

[@TheTimtam112]

@@GophersVids wait, just to make sure we're talking about the same mission, episode 143 of your playthrough? I haven't watched past that point because I haven't played past it. That's the mission we're referring to right?

[@Jcewazhere]

I wondered when/if they were going to do the whole 'the walls between universes are weakening' trope. Makes sense in this universe moreso than many who've used it. Still gonna wait to buy it till after seeing if Gopher et all say it's worth it. I've got a baby character I had been playing till I decided to go back to TTW. Murphy, they're an ugly violent loudmouth who's going for the highest legal bodycount possible. Sick of playing pretty goody two-shoes who can talk their way out of everything. I just got a mod that gives 90 perk points at the start. Plenty to get to mid-power. Still have to complete the 'challenges' to unlock the perks. Personally I'd want the perk points to go away entirely, just level up through doing like in Oblivion with base stats tied to overall level like Skyrim, but it's not too bad as-is.

[@YoungCowboy16]

I wait 10 minutes to load up a Starfield save.

[@Asstronauts93]

Starfield is the first live service single player game lmao

[@mado_0x]

It kinda looks like a bad replica of outer wilds but with shitty combat ngl

[@LNER985]

@@mado_0x Lies.

[@luckyhomestead]

4:40 So basically, you are only a little bit older then me I think :) Because I remember that as well but I "enjoyed" that only small amount of time :)