Serial | Season 01, Episode 01 | The Alibi

[@vozduka7557]

A lot of people in the comments complaining about about having to listen to this for school I would love to listen to this for a school!!!!

[@Sapphiremoonskulls]

I am doing this in school and we have 1 episode left XD

[@shirleygarcia5796]

Eirik .H am listening to this for school and it’s actually very interesting

[@albertohernandezoficial2961]

I hate this because I have to say an essay due tmrw

[@limeboo3731]

wait, they're making kids at school listen to this?? that's pretty fucking cool, damn

[@schizophrenicdolphinz9822]

Eirik .H I know this is so tight!

[@jtforeal]

Your English teacher brought you here

[@haunt7121]

jaketadros indeed

[@rum_coke_17]

jaketadros what school do you go to??

[@jtforeal]

@@rum_coke_17 Sierra canyon

[@wildbill2065]

Same dude. I have to fill out an entire packet that I didn’t complete on this podcast because paying attention was dreadful

[@LePhuong-zf3jz]

right🙂

[@SnowWhiteTheU2]

Who’s here after seeing the news that this podcast is responsible for Adnin’s case being overturned ? He’s now free and sources say this episode of this podcast is the reason why. The internet does do some good, too

[@MinDFreeZ]

Yeah randomly saw a tweet news article and had to check it out

[@alexb7641]

Yeah, and now I think he killed her

[@frankrizzo6513]

He's absolutely guilty, you all are Twitter fks without brains

[@TaraJaszczuk]

I've been following the case for years now. Since the HBO documentary come out. Came back to re-listen to refresh my recollection of the case.

[@TaraJaszczuk]

@@alexb7641 have you listened to the whole thing? Or just this episode?

[@radicalpark4041]

This has to be one of the most entertaining podcast ever. The vibe to this is so chill and easy to get lost into. The more you hear, the more you get intrigued.

[@PLYR1]

"Only Murders in the Building" is copying this format and doing quite well.

[@claudiaruiz4430]

Can you imagine being innocent and being locked up for YEARS? Like if he is I’m so sorry for him cuz those are years of his life just simply taken away.

[@yamo1944]

Claudia Ruiz ik I feel so bad

[@thedynastycontinues945]

Hopefully he can sue or wrongful imprisonment and get millions.

[@katea2046]

Claudia Ruiz very sad but it happens.

[@jaylat4578]

Could you imagine being a murderer and fooling millions of people into thinking you're innocent?

[@claudiaruiz4430]

Jay Lat omg that seems crazy🤯

[@jaredbowen3527]

Wow this takes me back to 10th grade when I listened to this podcast in English class (was only like 2 years ago). Simpler times....

[@Kickrocksmff]

Bro. The memories. My English teacher played this podcast for my senior year and it was great. Everyone was excited to listen and guess who could it be the killer was with evidence and how it lead up. I don't understand why you guys would dislike this for a school assignment.

[@trinitycall4613]

Doing it my sophomore year I like it

[@elinasvideodiary]

i loved doing it my sophmore year doing this for an assignment my junior year for AP Lang & Comp

[@stankyt5882]

Never had it for an assignment 🙃 but loving it so far

[@reddysetty]

I am doing it right now in my freshman year

[@peace.love.marleighb5953]

I’m doing it freshman year for English composition honors

[@ΘεόδωροςΑρετάκης-η7π]

Anybody else have to listen to this for homework?

[@tpwilly7023]

yep

[@overtimeworker59]

Yes

[@overtimeworker59]

9th grade

[@superprettyvy]

me 😖

[@austinpark2161]

meeeeeeeeeeeeee

[@anitabroswan2728]

I wish I had teachers that assigned this to me! This is awesome!

[@reshmitao3]

Anita Broswan my teacher is awesome, this is my assignment

[@Mae-nw6cv]

Anita Broswan omg same i would do this happily

[@MP_Derrick]

fr

[@chancellorpalpatine2386]

This isnt awesome a man is in prison bc of someone else doing

[@agile-j4d]

@@chancellorpalpatine2386 Wat. Are you claiming you think this guy is actually innocent??? You've got to be trolling?

[@grnpyro5110]

I find it interesting how nearly everyone had vague memories of the incident, and had a hard time of remembering exactly what happened or what they were doing, except for Jay. He remembered many of the details, including minor stuff like how deep the hole was and how long it took to dig. It almost sounds like he created the scenario in his head and thinks having as much detail as possible will make him sound more believable.

[@mjcorri22]

What I find odd is that Adnan had a hard time thinking about what happened that day 6 weeks ago because it was the day his ex girlfriend went missing. It was a day that he was questioned by the police the following day because they were looking for her. If the police came to me because my ex girlfriend went missing the previous day I would be thinking about that day a lot! I’d be trying to think of I saw anything!

[@Jmac0614]

Well I’d say it wouldn’t be hard to remember the day you buried a dead body

[@RyanLambo1530]

fax bro

[@Jill199]

Opposite. Adnan should have remembered on such a significant day. This podcast is misleading. He was questioned by the police on the day shed went missing and Hae Min Lee's brother called him THE DAY she went missing. This is why it should have stuck in his memory!

[@art.s.0]

I just found this, and I love listening to this when I'm tired in the morning or have nothing to do. Most podcasts have background music, which distracts me, but hearing just the words and voice tapes makes it better for me. Thanks for uploading this.

[@ashlynnscott8414]

"So you received a call from Adnan?" "yes" "from his cell phone?" "yes" "which is in your possession?" "yes" 15:28 BOY.....🤦‍♀️

[@adelinazamosteanu848]

It says "on his cell phone" not from

[@ashlynnscott8414]

@@adelinazamosteanu848 regardless, I think Adnan is innocent. Not saying it was Jay..but he’s sketchy.

[@adelinazamosteanu848]

@Harmony I finished serial, and I think adnan is innocent, I just corrected her because in the audio it says that Jay received a call from adnan "on his phone" and not "from his phone"

[@crescentmoon5859]

@@adelinazamosteanu848 the question is WHAT PHONE DID HE USE!?!

[@trinitycall4613]

I believe it's from her phone buy he called from hers

[@nataliehuynh6721]

Ok I’m going to be completely honest. Adnan actually admitted he didn’t remember , but like how did jay remember every little detail , why didn’t jay call the police if adnan didn’t , Adnan legit told him he was “ killing his girlfriend “ , then jay was shifting his story saying , he didn’t help dig the body , but he dug 6 inches ? Please explain , I’m not saying jay is the murder but I am saying jay is lying 🤨

[@disdanny]

Natalie's Main that’s so true.

[@YoungHaveNot]

Dude was a weed head, 19 and scared to death. This wasnt some hardened criminal. Even SK says in the beginning its hard to remember things. Hell i cant remember where i put my keys 5 minutes ago

[@mrjoobjoob17]

Jay lied to minimize his role in the murder so he could plead guilty to accessory after the fact. Jay has always admitted to digging the hole, and has always said he never touched the body. Other details have shifted tho. Jay doesn't remember *every* little detail. In fact he forgot/misremembered a lot, perhaps because he was a stoner. But he *did* remember key details that give his testimony credibility -- the location of the car, the fact that the turn signal indicator was broken, the location of the cellphone at various points in the day, parts of Adnan's state of mind, etc.

[@abpanda1596]

@@mrjoobjoob17 maybe hes been in the car before? Maybe the cell phone pings was based on where Jay say Adnan, and probably saw him a few times that day so he uses that to his story. Jay's story does not make sense. So many holes, such as the forensic done in the back of jay's car. I believe the cops did check for evidence in the back of the trunk , such as human skin, hair, etc SOMETHING. but if they did do it, they found nothing because they never brought it up.

[@popcorn0038]

The fact that he didnt even know know they broke up after hs and still say adnan told him he would kill his *girlfriend

[@sxrlxneytm5596]

Dam am I the only one digging the intro beat

[@RockyOtter]

Those investigators interviewing Jay are asking so many leading questions. I know they're allowed to unlike a lawyer, but they are asking Jay specifically worded questions to get the answer they want.

[@dan4271]

EXACTLY

[@jaylat4578]

It is stated that this is his second interview so they pretty much have his statement all worked out already. Not that unusual. She constantly makes mountains out of molehills. Remember this Podcast NEEDS Adnan to at least appear innocent otherwise no one would listen. So beware of the bias. Read the actual trial transcripts or Appeals Court Opinions. It really isn't even a close case.

[@kdonahue1217]

Thank you!!! They literally were finishing his sentences

[@Chaseysophia]

My colleague got me hooked on this today. We work at a restaurant and where talking bout what we listen to on our way to work every morning and I told her I always listen to crime stories and missing person cases. So she recommended this channel and I love it !!!!!

[@timothysstuffintros503]

Fun fact: You came from your English class

[@wieldablegator5126]

@Easy Lazy we're reading this in my English class, but they want us to start out by listening to the podcast. It's our homework for today in my English Comp. 1 class :)

[@cluttered.megabit]

Nah my forensics class

[@Alexander_Tronstad]

@@wieldablegator5126 wut? Why is this in peoples English-classes?

[@wieldablegator5126]

@@Alexander_Tronstad I'm not sure why they picked this specifically but it was in my English Comp 1 class for college

[@Alexander_Tronstad]

@@wieldablegator5126 What was the task you were set to do on this?

[@sarahlange2134]

My teacher talks about this podcast a lot in class, so the binge begins

[@JB-pq7yk]

Saaaame

[@cubsmiley3582]

here i am... 2 years after high school still listening to this again

[@rollyP01]

I remember listening to this in class everyday being so intrigued

[@Electro_Katarina]

Same

[@MusicalInquisit]

Apparently, a lot of people have to listen to the podcast for homework or whatever. If you are in that camp, here are some tips to keep in mind when watching: * Watch the video in two-times speed. Trust me, it is worth it if you don't want to waste an hour of your life trying to pay attention to details you could hear in 30 minutes. If you are unable to hear people with two-times speed, I pity you. * Don't look through the comments section and listen to the podcast at the same time. You can only pay attention to one thing at a time. * If you hear something important, paraphrase it and include the timestamp of the information (including episode number and who said it). When you have to write an essay over the topic, you will have information ready before the deadline. * Pay attention to the phrasing, or keep in mind the motives of the people making this podcast. Why did they (the writer and Sarah Koenig) provide that bit of information? I am asking this because some of you might be doing this to develop *rhetorical analysis* skills. This type of question is necessary when you want to write a good rhetorical analysis essay. * If you have homework questions regarding new information, try to see if there is a question that corresponds with information that you heard that may be important. Keep in mind, even if there is no question regarding what you thought was important, write it down as per the third tip. * Look at the website, Serial. There is some evidence provided that may be useful to some students, including more information regarding Adnon (such as the "appeal" or the cell records). If anything, they at least provided interesting information and may help you when it comes to time to write your first essay. _This is all for now._

[@sbukharibukhari111]

Thanks

[@Yuki-qy9mh]

I would listen to this podcast while driving to the work three years ago. Since then every year I keep coming back to this as the weather gets cold.

[@kr50401]

It’s a masterpiece And now he’s free

[@vickyli5697]

My gut tells me Jay is guilty

[@framedwolf9546]

Faxs

[@haunt7121]

Ik

[@saigemiller5326]

SAME

[@notsocooldude7720]

Vicky Li I hear a lot of people saying that but to me that makes no sense because there is no clear motive

[@MJMonroe]

of course he was. But he got a judge who was known to be easy on younger people's punishments. Lucky him. Even one of the jurors was "surprised" that he got off so easily. But what's done is done. He will always have "bllood" on this hands though.

[@alexandraelizabeth4815]

This is the most fun I’ve had doing homework ever

[@Investigativebean]

“Asia McClain, is that a person, or a book?!” Hahahaha

[@jesusofnazareth666]

Tina Bean XD I legit died

[@rae8961]

I know there's a China ann McClain

[@mstval3869]

Bruh I don’t understand why ppl complaining about this for Hmwrk bc I love listening to this for English

[@stedmanrose2929]

why isn't the relationship between jay,adnon,stephanie, and haes relationship not a factor.... why is Jay not looked at as a jealous boyfriend.... on his girlfriends birthday he had to borrow her bestfriends car... a guy friend who reminded him to get her a gift???? So Jay who just all willy neeley telling the story is just so trust worthy???

[@vvintagerose3245]

Stedman Rose exactly

[@YoungHaveNot]

Really? He suddenly becomes a murderer because hes jealous? If Hae broken up with Adnan that jealous(make believe jealously that your guessing) would have been gone. If im jealous of a rich friend, and he loses all his money, im not jealous anymore. U smell me?

[@N-vk8hm]

John Trotter that’s what I think jay was jealous cus it’s true no one likes to hear another guy telling u what to do. And cus Adnan was popular in school that could be another factor. Also Asia n her boyfriend could be threatened by Jay so they don’t tell the truth.

[@comfinessee]

Manny G I think Jay was angry about Stephanie and Adnan talking so he told investigators he did it and then he just had to stick with that over the years

[@notsocooldude7720]

Stedman Rose It’s such a weak motive for a murder. Doesn’t hold up. Only holds up for people in a KZbin comment section

[@diamondk84]

I was a freshman at Woodlawn high when this happened, I would have played lacrosse with her but this happened right before the season started

[@tanjiro2748]

diamondk84 if you’re telling the truth be honest what do you think? Did you know adnan or jay?

[@Mae-nw6cv]

diamondk84 fr?

[@mt7810]

mae haha this kid is like 15 years old lmao

[@alexberkman1820]

Perez Mclee their name even has '84... Its 2020. Shed be 36. 15 years ago she was 16. Totally believable. Did you not notice that, detective? Youre the one thats probably 15.

[@thisisnt_brndn]

I remember listening to this podcast in my English class freshman year. This subject seems interesting to me

[@reddysetty]

I am currently doing it for freshman year english class right now

[@Zenzav]

this lady randomly popped in my head from school and I graduated 5 years ago finna listen to all this we never finished it.

[@MonsieurBjornReddy]

That alibi thing is so true, I had to pause this, turn to my friend and test it, simpler than the 6 weeks, asked my friend what she did and where she went just the same day one week ago and she was like “F*** if I know!” Guess that’s why cops say they try to get as much info as possible in the first 48, and after that time the crime’s possibility of being easily solved decreases.

[@reddysetty]

I can tell this will be nostalgic in the future for me because my last day of freshman year is tomorrow and this was the funnest part of English class

[@isaiahhaynes929]

Thank you Ms. Duncan. Best assignment YET!

[@Jettagirl2020]

One of my friends told me about this podcast years ago, I listened to it while working. I would have loved a class where I had to listen to this!

[@ashleymw3099]

What makes so sense to me is how Jay was just “cool” with Adnan saying “im gonna kill her tomorrow/today and need you to pick me up yada yada” and literally had no type of guilt feeling or scared or conscious at all. No emotion whatsoever. That’s strange to me, how can you have no type of emotions AT ALL when talking about this over and over and over. & even helping with it. AND THE VERY NEXT DAY, himself adnan and Stephanie all went to a party together as if NOTHING happened? Somethings not right. Rest In Peace to Hae, it’s so sad her life had to end and there’s so many questions as to who did it and why. We may never know. I feel terrible for her family.

[@mag3455]

He’s a free man now hamdou lilah thank you allah

[@blissreback2024]

My thoughts: Jay killed her. He tells the events so detailed because he was there- at the time of the murder. Smart play considering if they ever found dna etc. Evidence that proves he was there he can say that he admitted to that but conveniently avoids admitting to being the person killing her. Jay picked adnan to be the scapegoat, blundering police (they love a Muslim scapegoat) helped him in this... a lot.

[@darkblaze373]

Why would Jay kill her though? Adnan has motive while Jay doesn't

[@fullweezy3553]

@@darkblaze373 Jay may not have been the killer but he is for sure more involved than he made himself out to be Adnan did not kill Hae listen to the whole podcast look up the case facts and tell me you honestly believe he did

[@adsyes6592]

Fullweezy 35 jay for sure knows more than he’s telling. Also the guy who found the body? The body was far in the woods would of been very strange just to stumble upon it without a clue or a hint of direction. All though Adan doesn’t remember jay remembers a way a lot more. Though I feel jay had a part he doesn’t seem like the guy to perfect a murder and find a perfect scapegoat because I feel he would leave some type of evidence. Hae seemed like a very sweet person, and getting killed would of taken at least 7 seconds with the other person trying there best to escape. Also Adnan has no criminal record, an 18 year old WITH PROMISE he was a very smart kid why would he risk everything. His family, his caree, his FUTURE to kill his ex because she ran off with don. One thing that makes zero sense is her diary. Her diary has don name but Adam new phone number? Also jays birthday was Jan 12 which might explain how he knows a lot more since he would remember his birthday a lot better than Adan normal days

[@Queenblessful]

@@darkblaze373 Jealousy

[@reanne9950]

i was looking for a murder mystery podcast & stumbled upon this. this "story" is v interesting & intriguing, while it is also so tragic & sad & these are real people living their lives w this hanging over their heads. i hope that these people have been able to find peace, especially the girl who passed's family.

[@normanabeto1649]

What's good homework squad

[@zebras1016]

Bob Bobington lmao

[@User-lq2vt]

Hey

[@batofdestiny]

We covered this for our English class 6 to 7 years ago. Even to this day, I think it’s BS that he got convicted. Even recently, the Supreme Court shut him down.

[@shugrimohamed1287]

Well he was freed yesterday!

[@mwakamulama7483]

Here because of James & Fuhad. 😊

[@danieldiorio1830]

Had to listen to this in English class during my senior year of high school. That was 2017; boy does this bring back vivid memories 😅🤣.

[@Iead]

I just realized. On my homework it says that Adnan might've been outraged and killed her, but what if Jay wanted Hae and his girlfriend but Hae was taken by Adnan, so she said no, so Jay was outraged and killed her, and blamed it on Adnan?

[@anthonywesterman4166]

Wasn't Adnan and Hae broken up at this time?

[@comfinessee]

Anthony Westerman yes, everyone says he was and that he was fine with the break up

[@user-ht7xm6rp6x]

Honestly I don’t know why Hae would break up with Adnan... he’s cute🤪

[@miguelamaro2380]

I have a theory that Jay is the killer because Adnan danced with stephanie and that could of got Jay jealous and so he killed hae to give Adnan a warning to not mess with him (share with yo class)

[@notsocooldude7720]

Miguel Amaro So Jay killed Hae because adnan danced with Stephanie? Makes zero sense

[@Liz38722]

Listening to this for school. The only class I haven’t taken a nap in today

[@nelsonquinteros1696]

Crazy how Adnan went to jail for it (which he deserves if he did in fact commit the crime) but Jay who is equally guilty or perhaps even more is out doing whatever and got to lie and change his story over and over. What a messed up Justice system.

[@milart12]

Equally guilty? Of what? It was Adnan who killed Hae.

[@nelsonquinteros1696]

@@milart12 🤦‍♂️ clearly you have not been following this case go watch the entire documentary, plus the pod cast, and court documents. You will then know that Jay is equally guilty.

[@milart12]

@@nelsonquinteros1696 Saw..heard it all..So tedious..All this empty headed drivel

[@nelsonquinteros1696]

@@milart12 I understand law might not be your thing and that is fine. But under the law Jay is equally guilty because according to Jay he himself helped Adnon bury the body. Which means he is an accomplice to that murder and therefore he is as guilty as Adnon, he could have reported Adnon to the police right away but that didn’t happen. Only reason why Jay did not sit in prison for many decades was because agreed to testify against Adnon and cut a deal. This happens all the time in criminal courts. Look at Sammy the Bull for example that guy agreed to having had killed 5 people, however, because he testified against John Gotti he was able to walk. So yes Jay is equally guilty, besides Jay switched up his story many times

[@milart12]

@@nelsonquinteros1696 It us absurd to say that Jay is EQUALLY as liable as Adnan(Even more so in your original post) It was not Jay who wanted to kill Hae; he barely knew her. Jay was charged with being an accessory after the fact, a FAR less serious charge and an appropriate one at that. Your analogy to Sammy the Bull is equally absurd.

[@mork6668]

My brother the cop, sent me ab sms to come and listen to this, so, here I am... Let's see how good this is!!

[@aqsalatif6755]

What happened to Jay? Did he get arrested for being involved? Based on his story, he was involved with burying the body.

[@haunt7121]

Aqsa Latif I think he pleaded guilty

[@Ricketybridge17]

@Aqsa Latif this man got 2 years probation 🙄

[@singhatar0912]

@@Ricketybridge17 for real ????

[@thedynastycontinues945]

The DNA needs to be tested. How tf wasnt this done in the beginning? I feel bad for both victims and their families in this case.

[@user-ht7xm6rp6x]

The Dynasty Continues well it was 1999 and technology wasn’t the same 20 years ago.

[@DisDatK9]

In 1999 DNA sequencing was invented already and was being used, but it was considered science voodoo at that point. Nobody understood it or took it seriously until in around 2001 or so when DNA sequencing solved a long term cold case

[@guccicrackpipe7840]

Arxz there had to be she was literally killed with someone’s bare hands these no way there’s 0 DNA at the scene

[@ninanano]

There was DNA, Adnan didn't match any and HaeMin didn't either

[@august7421]

I'm so excited that we're doing this for school

[@bunnyboo9525]

I remember this In high school I forgot how it ended so I’m listening again.

[@JaizMusic]

Loved this podcast and loved seeing the HBO 4 part series on this. Is it just me or did it seem like the police had their own agendas and had ulterior motives? The justice system for this seemed corrupt. It was very convenient to convict Adnan Syed. The police used Jay to get the story that they wanted to hear. For a kid to spend his whole adult life to this point in jail with such a lack of evidence is a travesty. Somehow he is still filled with hope. I guess the only silver lining was the wisdom he gained, and his philosophical self-reflection.

[@rubyrydinghood2600]

JaizMusic Police OFTEN have an agenda.

[@JaizMusic]

@@rubyrydinghood2600 Which was very apparent in Making A Murderer. I'm like a true crime addict now. Downloaded so many true crime documentaries and docuseries..

[@thetooginator153]

JaizMusic - You might be interested in the movie/documentary “The Thin Blue Line”. It shows how (some) police are more interested in arresting and convicting someone instead of whether that person is actually guilty. I think police get burned out after years of dealing with nastiness, and if they think a person is a criminal in general (even seriously minor crimes), convicting them of a major crime is no tragedy. The police seemed to stop caring that the REAL culprit is free. I guess the police figure the real culprit will be convicted of something else, so, it doesn’t matter. Unfortunately, this makes the community mistrust the police. I was lucky, I grew up in an area where the police genuinely cared about helping the people they serve (and they did their jobs well).

[@wilseekollie7479]

Who else is listening to this in their class..!!!!

[@spasedaddy4758]

I'm dumb. Can someone explain to me why they can't contact the email company and have them check the severs to determine if any emails on his account were opened at the time of his alibi? Wouldn't a footprint or a time stamp be kept? Something?!

[@ravensheldon894]

I thought the same thing for a second but then I remembered that I just read a book and it was talking about how they could've just put the killers DNA into like the Ancestry.com database or the 23 and me database, but a lot of companies wont give out information about their clients to law enforcement because of their privacy policies

[@carljcmjk8609]

They have a full documentary about this check KZbin here the evidence is pretty incriminating his own friend said they both burried the body why would he risk his life aswell to incriminating himself it won’t even true . ? Doesn’t make sense . This dude killed his girlfriend.

[@lightyagami9537]

HBO brought me here

[@balakondulfilms7570]

Me too ☺

[@almagracielamorelos5378]

Samesies

[@rydel9531]

Same

[@ZrankFappaH]

What was on HBO that bought you guys here? I’m curious.

[@erikulv8089]

@@ZrankFappaH A documentary about this case. (Adnan)

[@bridgetisjonesing5007]

Does anybody notice that Jay said that She was killed with bare hands?!?!?.... how did he know that already? Lets compare initial interrogation tapes.

[@Vicky-zx7ii]

He knows bc Adnan told him he said “‘these mfs say they from the hood when I just killed someone with my bare hands’ basically bragging” that is what Jay said, but his story does not make sense

[@JeffVader39]

The cops told him what to say

[@war34256]

I don’t understand these comments, I like this podcast, reminds me of my high school days but if it took a dark turn like Adan and Hay’s case. And all the friends involved makes it like 13 reasons why.

[@pizzaerveldiggodt6409]

Just finished watching American Vandal, and discovered this podcast. Really interesting so far, hopefully you found the truth. I'm definitely gonna listen to all of these!

[@slipendoos1123]

I always hoped we'd get more American Vandal. Such a fantastic show

[@a.a.s.3799]

To all the teenagers complaining this is their assignment, pick your battles.I had to read countless overrated novels for my reports and am here for a third listen since it first came out, i genuinely don't see how one could hate this.

[@dominiknowo2889]

Your gay shut up honestly

[@supergamergrill7734]

@@dominiknowo2889 dude.. not cool

[@observer4292]

What kind of school are ya’ll going to? I wish I could’ve had class assignments like this!

[@touya]

Honors school

[@liveeprice9215]

hell

[@rubimorales3353]

Public high school

[@Kenziee.Gracee]

Public school in the Midwest

[@taylorkreate]

The amazing jump of me coming from podcasts like mbmbam to being forced to listen to this for school is amazing to me.

[@mo-ip5wd]

If Adnan and Jay were both lying then I believe Jay deserved to plead guilty because if the story he was telling is in fact correct, then he might have definitely told it in Adnan’s perspective and claim that it was his. It’s very easy to switch the perspectives in a story and switch back to yours when you think it will benefit you

[@bootsymontana6434]

If you could tell if he was guilty or not they wouldn't have made a 12 part series about it.

[@oliviagomes9620]

@@Jamesjrshelton_ How?

[@mrjoobjoob17]

The jury heard a lot more evidence than a 12-part podcast, and they convicted Syed after just 2 hours of deliberation.

[@musaxcoco2833]

But wait.the girlfriend of Jay is called Stephanie, as in the prom princess who was mentioned in Hae Mins diary? Who was somehow dumped by Adnan to be with Hae? Crazy theory: Stephanie was in love with Adan and more than jealous of Hae, so she got somehow in contact with Jay, ending up planning to murder Hae Min and blaming it on Adan as a punishment? The dna found on the wheel in Haes car, could be Stephanies, who parked it there, so the story would make sense?

[@deathsreeper]

If they tested the DNA they would know if the killer is male or female

[@khayyamshaikh9182]

Yes, this theory makes the most sense, either done by Jay & Jenn or Jay & Stephanie

[@BDK1793]

Had to listen to this for my senior year of english two years ago. This song brought back some nice memories.

[@tomgeoghegan9173]

Really? English?

[@neomagatsu]

I like how you can hear jay clearly trembling with his words, he’s clearly hiding something from the judge, making it seem like he actually helped with the murder. The fact that he tell’s different stories every time also raises suspicions. I don’t think it’s too outrageous to put two and two together here.

[@castrox1194]

Used to live 3 mins from that high school. Was going to be my high school until I moved. My sister went there. That’s crazy.

[@HassanAli63090]

Eazy C be glad you didn’t go to Woodlawn

[@Scorpio-unicorn14]

Can someone explain the 6 week thing. Adnan was questioned the day Hae went missing. I just looked at the police report from Jan.13, 1999. Adnan said Hae was supposed to give him a ride that day, but he was running late, so he figured she just left. So what is this about how is he supposed to remember a day from 6 weeks ago? He was questioned that first day

[@UHGuac]

403k students have had to listen to this now

[@cassandraseymourrivero2725]

I don't know if he did it. But technology is different and I believe they need to give him another trial

[@valeriesantana3418]

Wait, didn't a man in the Casey Anthony case "stop to pee" when he saw human bones? 🤔

[@christinearrighi8655]

Valerie Charles yeah a workman but he seen the body a few times and each time called the cops. Plus if he did it why did mum not call when she disappeared that day

[@fleetwoodray]

The best friend, Jay, is a major witness. What happened with his testimony in trial? Did the defense tear his testimony to pieces or was his testimony sound? Teenage rhetoric is not sound testimony which is probably why some people were not interviewed as possible witnesses since they were not credible and would be torn apart in court by the D.A. Wish they would have filmed the trial.

[@y19gmusic]

I really hope someone make a show out of it. So intriguing.

[@machigiceb7788]

there's an HBO series, i just came from the trailer actually.

[@tyrahrobinson4092]

it’s a documentary call Adnan syde on hulu been on hulu for 3 yrs now very good

[@highriseeeee]

POV: it's late at night and you were supposed to listen to this before tomorrow

[@almagracielamorelos5378]

How in heck does it take "20-25 minutes" for two people to dig "6 inches"??? It might take that long for one person, stoned, to dig it. This, along with other statements, Jay made make me believe Jay acted alone in the death of Hae Min Lee.

[@925_antioch_ca_rap]

It was January in Baltimore county I'm suprised they did it that fast. Go in the backyard in spring weather and try and dig 6 inches the length of a human. Now imagine a froze or wet damp dirt and digging threw that

[@Rebecca-br2mw]

@@925_antioch_ca_rap Yep. The ground they would've been digging through was frozen. On the 13th there was snowfall on the ground and an ice storm coming in (which hit early morning of Jan 14, 1999) . It's hard to appreciate the energy this would have taken until you've tried to manually dig 4, 5, 6 inches into untilled earth, even in summer.

[@925_antioch_ca_rap]

@@Rebecca-br2mw yep I had to bury my cat 2 months ago rip j cat but it was March in California and it took forever

[@Jill199]

I honestly don't know how Sarah Koenig lives with herself for spinning this to point a finger at someone else. After listening to other podcasts and reading all the documents I believe Adnan is guilty. The evidence proves it. They are trying to get him off on a technicality. Educate yourself and listen to both sides of this argument. The Prosecutors Podcast is excellant. Hae Min Lee is the victim and her life mattered. She is almost completely ignored in this series.

[@MidgIsCool]

My goated ass physics teacher told me to pull up and it isnt disappointing this is fireeee

[@davisdoan7463]

I think it’s Jay. He was good friends with Adnan until Adnan and Hae started dating. He was jealous that he wasn’t hanging out with him. He killed her and blamed Adnan. He didn’t tell Adnan because he was put in jail. More stuff also

[@janpatrickcambel2423]

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[@nurithomas8322]

HIS recent RELEASE September 2022…BROUGHT ME HERE GOD BLESSS HIM AND HIS FAMILY HE IS DEFINITELY INNOCENT ANY BLIND MAN CAN SEE THAT I AM PRAYING FOR HIM JUSTICE SYSTEM AT ITS BEST SMH I hope he takes every cent he can from the city even though it won’t give him 20 years back or HAE but this will give us light to really take the time to review evidence and hire trustworthy people within the Justice system

[@mushtaaqahmed2466]

Me too

[@hinaahmed3524]

Did anyone notice how the interrogative police were putting words in Jay's mouth leading him to to say 'yes' to 'their' statements.

[@milart12]

Are you implying that the police framed Adnan and "forced" Jay to make up a story which implicated Adnan?

[@MonsieurBjornReddy]

Also I can vouch for the concept of the leak taker finding the body- at least that’s how almost every episode of Law and Order CI begins!!

[@brodypenn]

When your English teacher has you listen to this but you remember your mom listening to it in the car

[@ilyssanagelberg]

still wish there were pictures to go with this stuff so it could really help me fall asleep lol

[@luciannebeans6679]

Listening to a podcast for a midterm??? Lucky. We did not have that snish when we were in school, kids.

[@javaughngriego9017]

bro this podcast is crazy

[@metalhandgamer2664]

yeah i think its great

[@chrisleigh4765]

Not me having to listen to every episode and write 500 words about this story by 7 pm today

[@derinaries]

Only 500 words? Dude, you got lucky.

[@KhoiNguyen-fq3wu]

came across this podcast on a whim and it binged this. wished got it for a school assignment

[@toopidipoo1153]

I wonder if it is possible now to trace e-mails that have been sent 20 years ago. Maybe if they find the mails that Adnan was checking the day of the murder that would even more corroborate his alibi. They could have even traced the time he opened these emails... I wonder if that is possible.

[@notsocooldude7720]

It’s not

[@khayyamshaikh9182]

Strange that it can't be done

[@stephw.6539]

I was wondering the same thing. Or even the time you logged into your email account. That's all kept track of now, everyone has an internet footprint, why wouldn't it be then?

[@TheKourtneyDee]

"it was a completely normal day" - it was his best friend stephanies birthday, it was end of Ramadan and he was able to break fast that afternoon, and it's the day his ex-girlfriend goes missing. Even if he didn't know that she was murdered. At this point, the police end up calling him later that evening or the next day, can't remember which. But from that point forward he should have been racking his brain to remember every detail of the day before. It convenient. Now that he doesn't remember because so much time has passed, but he was spoken to immediately after her disappearance. It makes me really sad that this podcast said him free. I believed in his innocence when this first came out rechecked all the facts, looked at the cell phone pings, looked at all the documents myself, and now I realize there is no other explanation. He did it. It sucks, but he did it. Allegedly in my opinion.

[@milart12]

No need to qualify it-U are right -He did it

[@Hirungolwe]

Jan 13, 1999 was not the end of ramadan why are you lying....

[@TheKourtneyDee]

Perhaps I misrote my comment. On March 3, 1999, the coach Said That Track Practice Started at 3:30 P.M. at Woodlawn. He told his attorney that he recalled attending track practice on January 13, 1999 because he informed his coach on that day that he had to lead Ramadan prayers the next day.

[@TheKourtneyDee]

@@Hirungolwe so I'm not lying, it's all in transcripts from the trial as well as the public documents. But I also won't pretend to know exacts about Ramadan by any means. I was just pointing out another point of contention.

[@milart12]

@@TheKourtneyDee There is no need to apologize. U are correct on your central point. It was NOT a normal day. He remembers EVERYTHING else about that day EXCEPT for the time when he was murdering poor Hae.

[@phatstackz]

POV: your english teacher brought you here

[@blackbauer]

Well, he is out today! Congrats!

[@omosummer840]

To be fair I would remember the day a friend went missing 6 weeks ago more than a random day 6 weeks ago

[@omosummer840]

@BURGATO ' I still got a notification so I guess it doesn't matter how long for some comments. But in reply: The police did question him (on the phone) that same day. I know I'd pay special attention to that day and start thinking about the whole day. Even if I don't remember seeing my ex is still remember details of that day. I say this because to this day, I remember what happened before someone I knew went missing because that day my family and I spoke to the police at around 10pm. The child was found an hour later but it stuck so I can imagine it being magnified for someone who wasn't found immediately. Otherwise, I wouldn't remember going to a random area and even all the shops that day especially as I was like 11 (and I remember little in terms of specifics at that age).

[@omosummer840]

@BURGATO ' You make a good point there. I wouldn't be able to remember exactly what I did say 1:00-1:30 that day. Even now my memories are linked to places I went to that day and how the sky looked as well as information the police gave and even what the person who went missing said afterwards (it was a funny story). Im not a guy and I'll have to pass. Hope you enjoy analysing future mysteries. I can't wait to one day find out the truth about this case if it ever comes out!

[@wakewaji_jguy_]

Had to listen to this since it took us a quarter to read through Romeo and Juliet, thank you

[@ytrewind5675]

My thoughts Jay killed her because Stephanie might have cheated on jay with adnan and they ain’t know he found out so it was a perfect set up because he left his car with him for the gift so Jay waited till she came out school and killed her and went to bury her but didn’t have enough time because he had to go pick up adnan from practice so that’s why the dig was only 6 inches and maybe adnan was actually at the library for one hour and went to practice and he came back to pick him up and it was a perfect set up

[@profhortsunlover1536]

I keep a diary, I just have to look up the day, and my memory returns.

[@smokeybear520]

Got recommended this but seeing everyone here from English class got me ready to dip 🤣

[@sandracmyers]

Incredible story telling.

[@abdirahmanmohamed5739]

Whose hear after he's free🎉

[@This_isnt_where_I_parked]

"My case lived and died in those 21 minutes." Interesting choice of words when talking about a specific point in time when you were believed to have killed someone.

[@apollo1573]

Are you saying that’s suspicious?

[@This_isnt_where_I_parked]

@@apollo1573 I am. Word choice is very important to analyze. People generally want to be truthful, and lying causes them stress. Often, people will inadvertently divulge tidbits of truth, if you listen closely. But, all I am saying is it is suspicious. It should not be interpreted as a confession, but rather interpreted along with all the other evidence.

[@This_isnt_where_I_parked]

@BURGATO ' he is practically saying the victim lived and died in those 21 minutes. His word choice is very suspicious. He could have said anything, but to say his case lived and died in 21 minutes where he is accused of killing someone is very telling.

[@lidiaochoa222]

thanks to online learning due to corona, i’ve found another murder case... and im now obsessed

[@SnowDash333]

I had to listen to this for a high school project sounds awesome keep up the great work