"PoE2 Will Bring Gamers Together" ft.

[@Palsteron]

3 more days!!!!

[@hiftu]

+ server downtime at start. (I hope it will be zero.)

[@madhatten5123]

I am totally obsessed. I can’t stop watching videos. It’s gonna be a long three days.

[@Geeezass]

Hype as fuck

[@Hjortur95]

3 more sleeps

[@Red3em]

Log In!

[@MineYour_Craft]

Thanks for getting 45min closer to poe 2

[@dadanddragons3522]

😂💪🏻👌🏻

[@bjohno]

Lmao my thoughts exactly

[@JayBigDadyCy]

Raxx is such a great guy. When they announced Diablo immortal, it changed my gaming as well. Like most people I was expecting D4. And down in the comments section where everybody was ragging on the announcement and all that there was a guy who said something like Diablo is baby's first. Arpg Poe is for the real men. And I thought" oh man Poe, I haven't even played that since beta" which I didn't really care for it back then. I immediately gave it another shot. It was right at the end of delve League right around the Diablo immortal announcement and I haven't looked back. I put in 3,500 hours since then. It's probably my favorite game of all time. Outside of bloodborne

[@tonyLuben]

Very good talk. Love you both guys. See you in Poe realm

[@Milkybk_]

Couple of chill guys

[@LazyExile]

Diablo 4 not designed for blasters was a mistake that PoE picked up and turned into a modern genre known as PoE-like. And Raxx is correct about Dad with 6 wives and 7 kids; Elon Musk is the target audience.

[@octopappa5694]

Lmao! Facts

[@K1m9857]

Tbh Elon Musk looks like a blaster when he goes for it

[@YumYumStrudel]

I don't buy this Dad story, and Blizzard will ever release any metrics to back this up.

[@bengalbrown2834]

Well Elon is famous. People will just give him the shit he needs with open trade. All he has to do is flesh out a build after that and he will be cooking. I don’t think Elon Musk is going to be overwhelmed by a 1500 node skill tree but I could be wrong. I think he may end up being hooked on the game.

[@LazyExile]

@@bengalbrown2834 What I'm interested in is if Elon Musk started to play PoE, will he buy all the supporter packs available and open loot boxes 🤣

[@Rj-cf8eh]

When i moved from d3 to Poe, the one thing i missed about d3 was raxx, so I'm glad he's come over too.

[@ben_bash]

What a bad ass interview! Love the takes here!

[@henry.bowerslol]

You two have a lot of similarities... In a good way ofc. No bs, straight to the point and humble.

[@berkertugrul9055]

diablo 4 is a bussiness, poe is a game

[@ba53lin3]

word

[@MrRafagigapr]

3 days 7 hours only

[@Allblack_2011]

Love this. Raxx and Pal every week on PoE 2 the dream pod!

[@esaesaeesaesa]

Raxx hits the nail on the head with the segment starting from 26:12 and is one of the bigger reasons why I personally grew disillusioned with Blizzard's games some 10 years ago.

[@michaeldavis938]

The shitty thing is that Diablo Immortal is actually really freaking fun and has a ton of endgame content. If it wasn't pay to win it would be great! I guess that's irrelevant since POE 2 is coming out.

[@denispatty]

I just love these two content creators, Raxx is a huge addition to the POE cenario;

[@Mitko89trance]

Great video from a couple of great guys. Thank you for all of you past and future work! :)

[@Lyxai420]

giga chill to listen, love ya guys

[@MawxDesigns]

Started Diabo day one started PoE 1 two weeks ago. They have made D4 have no excitement. The excitement of D2 was every monster could drop the pinnacle gear. D4 is just handing you pinnacle gear. Where is that excitement. In Poe I never know what I’ll get. Instantly better than Diablo. Even my casual wife who likes gambling understands having random wins vs garunteed wins is always better. She also loves the side stuff in POe vs D4

[@gamewhizjo]

The poe helmet example was literally me at the start of playing poe. I probably started playing and quit like 4 times before settlers came out and I just stuck with it and just figured it out one step at a time. Not stressing my mistakes and just playing around with different gear and currency in the game in the end though its the reason I am so damn excited for POE 2 and am confident I wont absolutely ruin my build and have the confidence to do my own thing.

[@Blacknight200]

Nice conversation, heres hoping for Poe 2 and Diablo 4 to continue to greater heights!

[@madhatten5123]

I am a sweaty degen thanks for pointing it out Pal.

[@Sadbringer]

Amazing epizode and greath choice of a guest.

[@hiftu]

D3/D4 income went to Bobby Kotick and other board members pocket.

[@gnocchi7674]

this is the paltalk i've been waiting for

[@YumYumStrudel]

See what Raxx said about revenue/quality, this is why I believe 'D4BAD'. The amount of money Blizzard has claimed to have invested and time spend developing this iteration of the Diablo franchise just does not make sense.

[@KingColeTV]

great video guys! hype is real

[@lello333]

Raxx ans Palst are down to hearth guys! Love them both! HOnest and well educated guys! take note kids, if u want to be successuf, be humble

[@yuukizaki3163]

Rax is like the kid in every friend group that are taking turns in playing a single player video game, cheering his friends and waiting for his turn even if he’s the last.

[@papajoe7088]

Pal bringing people together. Only to hit on their mom.

[@Speedy1427]

Oh and is Paltalk youtube exclusive or is there a VOD somewhere?

[@Palsteron]

doing these off-stream, just vibing

[@Gilvad0]

GGG's game designers are legitimately fucking brilliant. Or maybe this is just the result of what Jonathan said - that when they come up against an idea that their designers react negatively to, most of the time he'll tell them to just try it anyways and see how it goes. Maybe being willing to let designers experiment and test stuff without the moneymen standing behind them with a Gantt chart is the real secret. Or maybe it's both.

[@lyraxfortyfive207]

Raxx is such a nice guy, loved this episode.

[@Legz_inStyle]

Indeed, this will interesting

[@ThaGamingMisfit]

I try to find a summary for this one, pretty hard, but it must something like : 'Tribalism bad'.

[@nikp3516]

I think Raxx misunderstands the perceived tribalism between POE and D4. I think for many of us it’s just getting fooled into playing D4 and being disappointed after being throughly let down by D3. At this point it’s sort of just fuck Blizzard in general for me. Even if I wasn’t a Poe sweat lord, I’d still disdain D4.

[@tripleraze321]

Yeah not everyone hates d4 because of tribalism. While I’m certain tribalism contributes to some of the hate, many people dislike D4 for no other reason than sheer disappointment. Even if I played no other Arpg games but blizzard ones, Diablo 4 could be sooooo much better, and recognizing this makes me feel disappointed.

[@davidviselka8505]

Great to see rax on PoE train :) cool dude

[@rambot1669]

Just because you watch streams doesnt mean you’re sweaty lol means you’re invested in the game

[@leguiaxx]

what make great game is "care", money is just a short cut to make a lot of people with a lot of different view point to care for a work

[@minijag972]

I dont think POE players have a problem with other Action RPG's. Its specifically Diablo 3 and Diablo 4. Pretty average or actually "bad" games, that have obvious paid critic reviews; are huge letdowns, yet are so financially successful. We see the appeal of Last Epoch, and Grim Dawn, and other arpg's. And they arent judged for it. But telling us prefer Diablo 4 over Path of Exile, when you havent even played Path of Exile. Tells us a lot about your character. Diablo 4 is genuinely a 4/10, maybe 2/10 game. Its actually one of the most forgettable uninspiring games ive ever played. Literally bottom 10. We arent haters without reason. I do understand the desire for a 40 something odd dad, that only has maybe 20 hours to play in 4 months appealing to someone though. Telling us youre a last epoch fan, or a grim dawn fan. Perfectly accecptable. Telling us youre a Diablo 4 fan, you get a side eye. It's SPECIFICALLY these terrible games. Reducing it to 'tribalism' is misunderstanding the issue. POE fans are a great community.

[@ruibarian5187]

Tempering sucks. It's not customization if there's always a best answer, you have to actually have balanced options that are viable. If every skill has a prescribed answer, you might as well just leave it as the old system, because tempering is just the same with chances to brick the item.

[@Treayom]

8:07 AND WE ALL SALUTE YOU KING RAXX!!

[@NAYSAYERXGAMING]

awesome interview bro

[@tripleraze321]

Starting at 34:50 , you know for sure Ragegaming videos is one of them

[@mutantemolina3708]

D4 is not bad, it is insufficient considering my thirst for customization and content.

[@tripleraze321]

Correct, everyone wants to make things polarizing because that apparently gets more clicks. The internet and social media pitch two things as amazing vs terrible. When in reality it’s often great vs greater. But our human thirst for tribalism won’t allow another team to be treated that way.

[@ruibarian5187]

Lol the money goes to Tencent. Chris and Jonathan sold all of their shares, every penny we spend to support PoE goes into the largest Chinese corporate machine.

[@Agapanthah]

Feedback: It doesn't matter if two content creators have exactly the same build. What is more important is how the build is presented and how well it is explained. That applies to nomenclature as well. Don't just tell me how to create the build, tell me how and why the build works. zDPS=0 🤓

[@seth5778]

Chris Wilson will have more Black Lotuses 😂

[@jordi6153]

I genuinely think the difficulty is going to be divisive for a lot of the new players. I hope I'm wrong and they embrace it like they did Souls-likes.

[@styck88]

ARPGs* just a chill guy placing some totems

[@asluckdespairs]

The only way PoE2 brings people together is more TFT requirements. Bulk trading bases. Boss carries. Selling rng atlas bosses.

[@Simplex_Kestian]

THat was nice. THanks for the Video.

[@universe7242]

The diablo 4 target audience conversation is silly. Accessibility for casuals has nothing to do with game complexity. A game can be complex and fun and interesting and still be accessible to casuals. These are not mutually exclusive. Poe1 did not achieve this. I'd say no arpg truly has yet. Heres hoping poe2 can.

[@amel9111]

god pls no, we dont need casuals in our game

[@skyshatter3633]

@@amel9111 people like you are the reason for those beefs. Pay me back my $30 so i don`t play PoE2

[@marekkuklis5867]

@@amel9111 You are what's wrong with PoE community. Explain to me exactly why you don't want casuals playing "your" game?

[@pyrotechnic6135]

You will like and subscribe for more content from this man and his blue hooded friend.

[@madhatten5123]

Biggest difference between PoE/PoE 2 and D4 PoE=passion project made by gamers that wanted to make their perfect game, D4 corporate fucks trying to make as much money as possible. Jonathon made a really cool comment in Zizarans interview. He said he will never be happy until he makes the perfect game. This drives him not just making money. It probably drives him insane but that’s why they make great games.

[@Dumaull1]

Kings of no BS content!

[@Disciple_]

Great interview!

[@PPG87]

I love PoE and have now played 3 characters in SSF to beat the pinnacle bosses (non uber) and I just don't get the PoB thing I really don't understand how you make a build by starting in PoB but it makes it feel less like a video game so I refuse to it, glad we won't have the option on start for PoE 2

[@Shazza53]

Really enjoyed this interview. Thanks, guys ❤

[@KaIero]

i think there will no mega kill builds in poe2 , the cut so many stuff, we will see

[@maxogge]

You asked raxx what the most hype change coming into poe2 is for him. For me it is the emphasis on combat. Nothing turns me off more than having my character finally put together and having it sink in, that from there on out I will never cast a single different spell again.

[@mikea.1652]

Progression is something beautiful and as they say - problem solving!

[@MrTheSmoon]

the economics topic is so funny. poe2 will actually incentevise blizzard to double down on the people that get addicted to gacha. because the initial cost to make a game that competes for the attention of PoE2 players will not be worth it compared to the model of just pumping marketing budget and hooking ''whales''.

[@bengalbrown2834]

I think the relationship goes both ways. It’s symbiotic, Diablo will continue to bring new players to the genre and eventually they will piss off a percentage of those players. Those players will either quit the genre or try out that POE game they’ve been hearing about for ages. As long as ggg don’t get bought out by a greedy corp or sell out for the numbers the relationship will exist. I think the d4 dev team could make a pretty good game if they were allowed to. I just don’t think they are given that freedom. I believe Blizzard/Activision has branches whose purpose is to figure out how to make the most money and that strategy is passed on to the devs from the start. Keep it simple and monetize the shit out of the game. Make good cutscenes and cool looking graphics to get people excited and ride it out after that. Not the best long term business plan but there’s enough people who will stick around long enough for them to draw in new costumers.

[@makitaki1]

we are live in diffrent universes :/ about GAMES

[@Slicky1988]

WHERE IS OUR AURABOT??????????????????????

[@seanheisey8645]

I need this NOWWWWWW

[@Waiden_CZ]

You mentioned that 'you wanted customization,' and then 'they don’t want it.' It seems like two different groups of players are being lumped together. Anyway, I wish D4 all the best, but I am not going to return. The game is just not for me, and it took me a while to figure that out. POE 2. LOGIN.

[@Uber_GoobTube]

Yeah D4 has hit hard times since the big announcement. Yesterday there was 35k people watching PoE2 on Twitch and D4 had 540. Rough.

[@BartoszBielecki]

Same here!

[@flabianodesouza856]

[@LongX49]

raxx spitting faxx

[@K1m9857]

I am still curious as to how rax liked diablo 3 and 4 over poe 1 Probably the ip name Otherwise both games aren't what diablo 2 players wanted as sequels imo

[@DarthVapor86]

Raxx is a shining star in the content creator community. This dude never ceases to amaze me with his unbiased and down to earth takes on gaming..

[@benjpac5]

That mic drop comment from rax about d4.... "Where does the money go?". People are asking the same question with WOW lately. Not good.

[@aeggeska1]

Calling public teachers "expert" is very generous......

[@BigB0ss00]

Rax has a brother on Maxroll?

[@Uber_GoobTube]

They keep him in the basement chained up with cans of Spam and sugar water.

[@ChuckNorrisEmoQc]

Let's say it that way, of you play D2 d3 D4, you probably going to like it, where it changed is when you taste of the freedom and infinite possibilities that provides Poe, after trying it, you feel that Diablo retrain you ou by how you want to play the game. It's a game conception error yo me , to force you to play a class with only their abilities, it's not giving the player enough room to improve it their way.

[@trueKingViking]

i want to adress the "smart" thing. to understand what i'm about to say you need to understand motivation and i mean how it work in the brain. first of all everybody have different point of interest some ar more physical some are more mental. so if you're more of physical person of course you're not motivated to learn by having to resolve problem in your head. now that we know those basics we need to know that the brain is like a muscle the more you train it the more it perform. now we need to actually know what words actually mean instead of "for me being smart is..." no that is not how it work the term smart refer to high mental capacity tha is what it really mean. now that we have all of those information we can now talk about d4 vs poe. d4 is very simple so you don't need to be smart to play it its perfect for those who don't like thinking to much poe is forcing you to think and resolve problem that required a certain degree of motivation and it force you to actually use your brain so saying that all d4 player are not smart is a lie of course but there a much higher chance for a poe to actually be smart because of that difference. people that there point of interest are more toward mental skills are smarter cause they fun doing it so it feel like nothing for them. The conclusion of my point is yes some people are smarter then other and some game attract less smarter people its the natural selection and it always going to be like that the real problem is the people that use this fact to insult other people you may be smarter then the other guy but this person have something you don't

[@Uber_GoobTube]

Holy shit this is an entire short story bro. Just make your own podcast!

[@trueKingViking]

@Uber_GoobTube i could but i'm french canadian so my english is not perfect and i have anxiety so everytime i speak english i stress out and forget everything

[@Mooplet]

yes yes yes yes

[@K1m9857]

Casuals do not equal "dad gamers" People need to stop conflating both Casual players are a huge range of people Like 98 is percent Dad gamers are the 1% and the same with the content creators

[@mramendoa3056]

lets go

[@highlandrc9036]

great vid

[@ShadyHarbinger666]

What Raxx says is full BS. PoE attracts do not attract people because more math. It attracts people because of much more interesting and diverse itemization, build, endgame, game mechanics, etc. Nothing to do with smartness. Also, he is still closed-eye and simply does not see Blizzard does not have gamers for gamers developers, do not have creativity, vision, or passion. Money never gives these mandatory attributes to Blizzard because this is not Blizzard. Only a name for Activision and now for MS.

[@Imperium83]

I'm excited too but jesus you all are hyping this up way too much.

[@Wlrtuoz]

In my opinion casuals are not the biggest audience... They are minority like blasters. Majority of players actually can play 3-5 hours per day and couple hours more at the weekends. At least at the first weeks after league/season lunch. That's my personal experience.

[@peter486]

honestly i cant even see him

[@bekogaming331]

ggg has already made 30 million$ with just selling EA access XD why tf would you be supprised if they made 100 million $ with poe 2 lol (question for rax)

[@syhler1876]

😁😁😁 speak german, danish and english 😂😂😂😂

[@Sheebalba]

I liked the appreciation of Raxx

[@andrebarreto9177]

United in server crash

[@justsaying3176]

but fextralife owned yall.... hahahahha easy gg no re haha

[@borgirlol]

D4 bad

[@ohbid3477]

grr

[@madarauchiha116]

Why the intro sounds like Ai having conversation lool

[@asluckdespairs]

There aren't more support gem options in poe2... Poe 2 just forces you to choose between less viable options. The concept of forcing a choice, is not the same as giving an option. They removed options and forced choices.

[@asluckdespairs]

Think about how many options get removed if you can only use manaforged arrows on a single skill gem. And the option to link multiple skills to a single support. This removed literally tens of thousands of combinations of options. While forcing more choices.

[@valjohnson7112]

in the last week ive heard how poe2 is game of the year, its going to revolutionize gaming, its the best arpg ever made, its going to bring gamers of all types together. and all of this is before anyone has really played it. this thing is being overhyped more than the mike tyson fight. and i think there are going to be a lot of VERY disappointed players after december 6.

[@CCSplinters]

I think it's overhyped too but well deserved. They have a good track record when it comes to releasing contents.

[@valjohnson7112]

@@CCSplinters i think they are an amazing company and poe is in my top 3 greatest games of all time. but i have tried to get 6 different gamers* into poe and only 1 of them liked it. i think its a pretty safe bet to say A LOT of people are not going to like poe2.

[@shawnchia3611]

@@valjohnson7112 its still a niche game after all. Like what Raxx says, most players in the world are actually casuals who only have like 1-2 hours to play 3 times a week so POE will never be a game for them. Edit: This is also why mobile games earn so much $$ cos their target audience are mostly financially independent working adults who just wanna do some simple stuff among their busy schedule, like pressing a few buttons and growing crops or building a farm, but still feel satisfaction doing it in that very short span of time, and also willing to speed up the process with money.

[@CCSplinters]

@@valjohnson7112 not that they don't like PoE2. They just don't like ARPG in general. I myself never liked souls-like games. That's something that even a game is well received and hyped, not everyone will like it.

[@valjohnson7112]

@@CCSplinters i think new games in general can be a tough thing to like. about 10 years ago i was a serious call of duty player. when CoD started going downhill i tried halo, counterstrike, overwatch, fortnite... i couldnt get into any of them. because i had played CoD so much that anything different from what i was used to felt wrong to me. i think even a lot of poe1 players wont like poe2. because it is so different from poe1.

[@ibrahimelmhadri6576]

What do you mean "future"... it's the present and it's Path of Exile!

[@darrellsongy309]

D4 dead

[@yeahright420]

Hype chase andys are funny bro...

[@Uber_GoobTube]

So are bing bongs with 420 in their name on the internet using brain rot lingo trying to dunk on someone with a multimillion dollar company and one of the most successful streams in the industry all the while sticking up for players in the face of the company that created the space for them to make that money. Knock it off, stinky.

[@torinux4980]

PoE has the most toxic community there are when it comes down to aRPGS, how's PoE2 bringing players together if PoE content creators are already gating it from newcomers, lol. Just read the comments in this video, PoE fans saying they don't want "casuals" in "their" game.

[@PuffGroundHoggy]

D4 target audience: those who have either ZERO willpower or no time (usually willpower, they are just lazy and whiny) to put an actual effort to learn game mechanic AND still want to get all the endgame gears, period. The strongest voices in D4 communities are always the 'casuals' who literally dumbed down the game to children's education game level. If D4 had cartoon style design with SFW everywhere, man they could use that for kids to teach how you can just cry and get all the cookies

[@samuelvera5048]

I know raxx bc of asmongold.

[@jimmyflores4726]

I can’t stand Rax… the Narcissism is so apparent. He’ll say that because of him developers changed something in a game.

[@lenelie3051]

Having ad's every five mins...its a bit much and interrupts the flow of conversation. That's NINE commercial breaks in a 45min video. Makes it a hard watch, twenty mins in and I'm out. Yes, I'm sweaty, I have probably listened to every English speaking podcast on Poe 2, almost all of them the whole way thru. Pal, love your take on gaming and have followed you for years now. Just make good vids, the money follows. Looking forward to Poe2 with everyone else, just want my time respected.

[@Uber_GoobTube]

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