Point Of The Stag v2: Special Perk Combos You Should Know About

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CoolGuy

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Point Of The Stag comes back WAY better. Not only does it match the old roll, but surpasses it and has a couple great rolls to go with it. Stag has been one of the best bows in Destiny 2 when it came out and this perk update brought it back to that. Great PvP combo and there are two PvE combos I want you to look for.
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@CoolGuyGames
@CoolGuyGames 11 ай бұрын
Stag came back a lot better. Like 90% that come back don't, What do you think of it?
@t.e.oproject33
@t.e.oproject33 11 ай бұрын
Smite of Merain has pugilist/demolitionist firefly, not just point of the stag
@jeremyb5080
@jeremyb5080 11 ай бұрын
​@@t.e.oproject33firefly, not dragonfly, so yes but not technically :/
@pyromanticwolf1624
@pyromanticwolf1624 11 ай бұрын
I thought precision frame bows had a hardcap of draw time of 612? Only lightweight frames go all the way to 500 draw time, as far as im aware.
@Data-AnalystSera
@Data-AnalystSera 11 ай бұрын
I'm glad this dropped, the massive spike in bow usage means Bungie will finally nerf them into D tier where they belong
@lemoniscence
@lemoniscence 11 ай бұрын
@@pyromanticwolf1624Precision bows became able to go down to 540 drawtime when Lightweights became able to go to 500. It’s just that you need an adept draw time mod to hit 540 on a Precision, so most bows are stuck at the old base cap of 576.
@nelsongodoy5101
@nelsongodoy5101 11 ай бұрын
Frostees strand hunter with a pugilist swash point of the stag and traveler's chosen. Headshot, strand knife, swash x5, get melee back quickly even in checkmate. Love it
@Ima9ineBreak3r
@Ima9ineBreak3r 11 ай бұрын
Oooh...! I haven't tried this yet, but I thought about something similar. I look forward to giving it a whirl. Thanks for the idea.
@GhostRyder2008
@GhostRyder2008 11 ай бұрын
I've been a bow main in PvP for years and find it interesting how people are just now learning how good they can be
@fotis3v480
@fotis3v480 11 ай бұрын
Gamebreaking'
@sethinttown
@sethinttown 11 ай бұрын
nothing but bubbles/wells and bow users atm
@theveryamericaneagle3657
@theveryamericaneagle3657 11 ай бұрын
​@sethinttown I blame control point trials for the super meta. They need to make trials the og way it was. An bows are bows :[
@patrickarraes4422
@patrickarraes4422 11 ай бұрын
Special ammo and sniper nerfs, smg and shotgun nerf. Thats why bows are being more used, but the way they are mostly used are in the back of the map and not fast pace bow shots.
@theveryamericaneagle3657
@theveryamericaneagle3657 11 ай бұрын
@@patrickarraes4422 :(
@michaelsparks1571
@michaelsparks1571 11 ай бұрын
The great thing about Swashbuckler on this bow and Biting Winds with Atherys Embrace is those moments where you use your other gun to get your knife buff, then chuck it down a lane, and swap to the bow before the knife connects to have 1-taps ready for anyone else peaking that lane.
@theta-rx2
@theta-rx2 11 ай бұрын
As a long time bow main since forsaken, its so strange seeing them just now kinda get popular. I get that they can be kinda frustrating to play against if you dont know what to do in a dual with em but idk, I think they are still fine, like there is a very clear downside of if your opponent hits their shots they WILL out duel you without you doing some kind of extra thing. Idk i just like that bows make you really think about your loadout and synergies and in all honesty i really enjoy just having some variety in the sandbox that isnt just hand cannons and smgs and nothing else if that makes sense. Idk, its just frustrating to see a ton of vitriol from people any time something new gets the spotlight and i really just hope my playstyle doesnt get hit with a big old nerf because of that. Anyways just a little vent i guess im just very frustrated of this same loop all the time (and also people being always being really shitty and awful to each other)
@joshuasmith6909
@joshuasmith6909 11 ай бұрын
Me who’s been a Bow main since Shadowkeep: “what do you mean they’re overpowered *now?* “
@DotDodd
@DotDodd 11 ай бұрын
What’s funny is I use Pugilist/Incandescent Tyranny of Heaven with Dawn Chorus on Strand Warlock. I get my melee back constantly and can always have Weavewalk up
@SnowflakesOfDestiny
@SnowflakesOfDestiny 11 ай бұрын
I'm convinced now. Destiny players can't think for themselves
@Porsche911RSR-0
@Porsche911RSR-0 11 ай бұрын
you're just now figuring that out?
@The10thdrago
@The10thdrago 11 ай бұрын
On God. Bruh I saw this during peak forsaken era.
@l.grapperhaus4466
@l.grapperhaus4466 11 ай бұрын
This gun still holds the title for the most amount of PvP kills on a primary for me, loved it since it came out. Although it started to collect dust once WQ came out, I was still rooting for it and hoping it would be reissued, and now some added Wild Card fireworks give it the fun factor on top of the solid factor. It was so solid back then, that Vorpal on it was more of a bonus that would come up from time to time and I still have clips of making multiple Supers in quick succession take a seat because of this thing. It commands respect in the Legendary Bow world, and I'm glad it's back. Got your exact Swash roll CoolGuy, and still waiting to really break it in at some point but I know it'll be a blast, and no I'm not deleting the original rendition of it haha
@aidanpullum5370
@aidanpullum5370 11 ай бұрын
felwinter's helm on broodweaver for the weaken/unravel combo has been my favorite build since light fall, and I'm always looking for ways to perfect it. definitely adding this bow to it
@CaptSkyman
@CaptSkyman 11 ай бұрын
That freeze at the end was disgusting. I loved it! Always quality vids my man. Thanks!
@soopahcaboose
@soopahcaboose 11 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing, but I still prefer wolftone draw, dragonfly shoot to loot in high end content is too nice. The explosion picking up ammo for me from cover.
@Changingtesting
@Changingtesting 11 ай бұрын
I refuse to believe there is a bow meta, i’ve been a bow main for majority of my play life since shadowkeep, and the most meta I’ve seen bow is le Monarque
@cilospresents
@cilospresents 11 ай бұрын
Same. Over 20K kills across a number of bows not named Le Monarque. I used to be the only one using a bow. Now they everywhere (and people are still not that good with them... lol)
@danperkins4781
@danperkins4781 11 ай бұрын
The swash roll is really really good on Strand Hunter and warlock just at base. Headshot into strand needle is such a free Melee kill that is effective right in that money 20-32M primary dueling range.
@coleFACTOR
@coleFACTOR 11 ай бұрын
just got archers/swash and excited to try it out tonight. was really hoping for tricorn but i feel better now after watching.
@LordTonzilla
@LordTonzilla 11 ай бұрын
My friends didn't understand why i was hyped when i saw Saladin just giving away the Pugilist/Dragonfly roll last iron banner. Now coolguy came through and validated me.
@cal6464
@cal6464 10 ай бұрын
I picked up elastic/pugilist/swash as I want to try it on a float dawnblade. Headshot to celestial fire cleanup, get swashx5, then the combination of heat rises and pugilist gives huge chunks of melee energy back if I get swashx5 one-shots from the air.
@ghettovacancy6577
@ghettovacancy6577 11 ай бұрын
I’m having nightmares of matching against you using PotS and Ager’s 😅. I did on Rusted Lands on reset, and you were absolutely torching me with the hot swap 😂. I don’t take the opportunity to post much, but keep up the great quality content…you’ve got my vote for favorite cc!
@sTEALtooth
@sTEALtooth 11 ай бұрын
7:31 - That 10sec perfectly encapsulates what makes PVP so unenjoyable right now. Gross. 😊
@TheDeerInTheHeadligh
@TheDeerInTheHeadligh 11 ай бұрын
i've been using it with precision instrument while searching for, like, any roll with swashbuckler and i've been pleasantly surprised by how effective it is. precision instrument has come in clutch multiple times when peek duelling with warlocks in rifts and overshield titans. the extra damage for basically free always catches them off guard. you already win most peek duels with a bow but precision instrument makes it almost guaranteed. i once took out four whole guardians that were stacked in one warlock's rift, that's how much more damage i was doing per peek than they were.
@lordpumpkinhead265
@lordpumpkinhead265 11 ай бұрын
I got one of these with Archer's Tempo/Dragonfly. Not Pugilist by any means, but being able to fire faster and faster with elemental explosions is pretty funny.
@adhirg
@adhirg 11 ай бұрын
I kept a couple of rolls for Point of the Stag - lo and behold the Elastic, Pugilist / Dragonfly roll just chilling in my vault! such a whacky roll I can’t believe it’s actually a good weapon! even crazier I actually kept the roll and didn’t instant shard.
@Targatheory
@Targatheory 10 ай бұрын
It's only "good" if you play into a certain playstyle that any youtuber might say. True for anything you watch. Discover your own.
@Garthgoyle
@Garthgoyle 11 ай бұрын
Mine has Archer's Tempo and Dragonfly, with a Master Work of Accuracy. It's been mine favorite weapon for the past three weeks. Freaking Love it! Rocks both in PvP and PvE.
@Truds
@Truds 11 ай бұрын
I started to think Precision Instrument didn’t exist on this, but it’s pretty great!
@evilpac2327
@evilpac2327 11 ай бұрын
Bows are the same as always, they just became popular because of some changes in other weapons and youtubers suddenly discovering them.
@tonyt3638
@tonyt3638 11 ай бұрын
CoolGuy finding clever perk interactions is why my vault is full
@KepNaki
@KepNaki 11 ай бұрын
Funny you posted this video on the time i was acticely grinding for this bow. XD Got 4 rolls i wanna play with to see. I've never been too good with the bow, but I like Wild Card too much to not use it.
@prelude2127
@prelude2127 11 ай бұрын
I went broke last iron banner for my perfect five out of five point of the stag. I am very happy with it. My goal was the perfect 576 drawtime with archers tempo and dragonfly. Beautiful in The crucible with the wild-card and dragonfly combo and great for PVE also
@kamarwashington
@kamarwashington 11 ай бұрын
Does dragonfly explode the wildcard bolts?
@prelude2127
@prelude2127 11 ай бұрын
@@kamarwashington it doesn't seem to no
@EzioZ
@EzioZ 10 ай бұрын
This exact roll I want, all types of explosions lol 💣💣💣
@Cactasolar
@Cactasolar 11 ай бұрын
I like how i went from teammates flaming me for using a bow (saying its bad) to seeing everyone else hate me because its OP in the same season Ive been using them since 2018!
@tombrooks1622
@tombrooks1622 11 ай бұрын
Right before watching this video yesterday I played some IB and focused a drop. I was going to delete it at first but then I saw I had a low draw time. Upon further inspection I saw it was Elastic or high tension, compact or fiberglass and pugilist dragonfly with a DT masterwork. Figured it would be neat to try. Then I watched this video haha. I am beyond happy.
@voodoolab814
@voodoolab814 11 ай бұрын
I don't think draw time is as important when you have Archer's Tempo as you make it out to be. With Archer's Tempo proc'd going from a handling mw to a draw time mw is only a 0.02 ttk increase. It is certainly better but it is not Snapshot for bows, in my opinion.
@oryxfirstnavigator4795
@oryxfirstnavigator4795 11 ай бұрын
Draw time and reload speed are the most important things to have on a bow. Being able to knock the arrow faster, to draw it faster means quicker time to follow up with a second shot
@VernCarson
@VernCarson 11 ай бұрын
day 1 salad sold a pugilist swash version that's probably better
@Ins0mn3sia
@Ins0mn3sia 11 ай бұрын
Man I remember back in the day with the original, just cracking people in the face in their super, good it was so satisfying putting them in their place. Need to get some decent rolls as options. But man, between engram drops feeling few and far between, and praying for a couple good bite of the fox rolls. Its proving tough.
@gravity-arbor
@gravity-arbor 11 ай бұрын
Wow I had no idea that pugilist interacted with dragonfly. Or Strand. That’s awesome.
@SpartanWolf222
@SpartanWolf222 2 ай бұрын
Hey Coolguy, I don't know if you considered revisiting this Iron Banner bow in The Final Shape given the nerfs to bows in the past few months, but there's one specific weapon perk that makes bows viable for PVP thanks to enhanceable perks. (Also, it's available on the new Solstice bow btw.) It's the same perk that makes Igneous Hammer work: Precision Instrument. Normal Precision Instrument still requires 2 crits for T10 to 4 for optimal TTK up to x2 stacks, and after x2 stacks, you can then 1 crit 1 body players under T10 resilience. Enhanced Precision Instrument, on the other hand, will one crit one body guardians with T7 resilience and lower once you get x1 stacks; it will also kill any guardian with the same requirement at x2 stacks. This bow also can roll with Strategist, which is available on the raid bow, but I find it very useful with the same Osmiomancy Frostpulse build you showcased here.
@SenAkari
@SenAkari 11 ай бұрын
Speaking of bows, would you consider looking at Lunulata-4b again after all the bow buffs? I've been using it a lot lately and it feels really nice when tagging head shots compared to before. Mine has 43 Accuracy, 97 Aim Assistance (w/ Targeting Adjuster and x3 Stasis Targeting mods) and Rangefinder and it just feels super smooth - I've always loved using Lightweight Frames in PvP so I'm really enjoying this weapon in this sandbox
@max73916
@max73916 11 ай бұрын
rangefinder does something weird to bows it makes them super accurate more so than rangefinder affects other weapons although it isnt that great because you are hipfiring a lot with a bow
@jonahbrown5669
@jonahbrown5669 11 ай бұрын
​@@max73916*some* people hipfire with bows. *More* people ads with a bow
@Jim_GG
@Jim_GG 11 ай бұрын
I definitely am looking for a at/precision inst for pve👍🏼
@EzioZ
@EzioZ 11 ай бұрын
Was waiting for this review !!!
@ayufever1978
@ayufever1978 11 ай бұрын
landed a tempo + swash roll last night, and now i cant wait to be “part of the problem” 😈
@ZlPPENHAFT
@ZlPPENHAFT 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review and also not crying for nerf on bows. Like a real content creator, you show us tips, infos and enjoy the game! Like shotguns (pellets not slugs) to me they are too easy, one shot and no need to aim, i dont cry for nerf. i hate them, not my play style but i play with them because it's the meta and i live with it.
@byranwitherspoon5369
@byranwitherspoon5369 11 ай бұрын
I hear what you saying but pellet shotty’s are inconsistent… bow’s especially the right rolled ones can one shot and the hit box is huge on them so you are truly on autopilot… i will only use them in trials at times even then it feels like I’m cheating… I’ve gone solo flawless with bows and it didn’t feel right lol but that’s me
@ZlPPENHAFT
@ZlPPENHAFT 11 ай бұрын
@@byranwitherspoon5369 bows against sweaty shotgun apes you stand no chance. but like i said i hate them but it's too strong so i play with them. so be it with bows now. peoples needs to enjoy the meta instead whining
@beyondxhorizon4992
@beyondxhorizon4992 11 ай бұрын
I miss the good ole days, man. Checkmate is a giant leap in the right direction, but man Destiny pvp has become such an un-enjoyable experience
@tmenke88
@tmenke88 11 ай бұрын
I haven't really played much destiny but I decided to check which PoTS's I've gotten to drop on DIM. I have the OG version, and my only other has elastic string, pugilist, and dragonfly. (+ a handling MW but oh well)
@Emil-Roma
@Emil-Roma 11 ай бұрын
I wonder if this version will be good enough to replace the Tripwire Canary (seraph bow) as my main arc bow. It's been getting way closer as far as the competition goes thanks to the lightweight buff.
@EzioZ
@EzioZ 11 ай бұрын
Ayy same tripwire and under your skin my 2 main legendary bows. That veist trait on the tripwire is cracked 🔥
@grizzwald15
@grizzwald15 11 ай бұрын
I wish that the hunter melee would suspend hit targets if you successfully catch it.
@nelsongodoy5101
@nelsongodoy5101 11 ай бұрын
That's insane. Rope dart is already arguably the strongest charged melee at the moment,. It's easy to land, no wind up, and gives you some melee energy back
@justsomeguy2142
@justsomeguy2142 11 ай бұрын
Is the reason the bow showcased had two perks on each roll because of crucible rank resets?
@nelsongodoy5101
@nelsongodoy5101 11 ай бұрын
No the original point of the stag had a curated roll, so it only rolled with what it has and let you pick between two perks in each column. Notice how the bow had no string or arrow options, any modern weapon will give you two choices for those columns
@Welverin
@Welverin 11 ай бұрын
I'm happy with the pugilist/swashbuckler and archer's tempo/precision implement rolls I got. Though you have me interested in a pugilist/dragonfly roll.
@leonardchurch814
@leonardchurch814 11 ай бұрын
Winters Guile on Warlocks automatically shatter any enemy hit with penumbral blast, maybe that’s a good way to get max Swash?
@Rezz316
@Rezz316 11 ай бұрын
I've been waiting for a Luna regolith review since forever.
@seffers4788
@seffers4788 11 ай бұрын
Really wish IB guns rolled with multiple perks in slot for prestiging like every other vendor (trials needs it too like wtf)
@itsseanofthedead
@itsseanofthedead 11 ай бұрын
@coolguy this just gives cryosthesia its full form. Freeze with cryo then use lightweight knife for one hit kill then you get the x5 swash. It is NASTY
@lemoniscence
@lemoniscence 11 ай бұрын
I actually prefer Tyranny of Heaven for this. Sure, you need Radiant for the 1 shot kill, but it can be extended by Ember of Empyrean, AND Tyranny gets Enhanced Swashbuckler, which lasts so much longer than regular Swashbuckler. Or you could use Golden Tricorn on Tyranny, it lasts even longer than Enhanced Swashbuckler but you’ll need to keep getting ability kills so I don’t.
@Blackhart-7
@Blackhart-7 11 ай бұрын
I honestly got so lucky with the focusing. Elastic, Fiberglass, Archer's Tempo, Swashbuckler and a Draw Time MW = 576 draw time and accurate af bow.
@buldor6
@buldor6 11 ай бұрын
I managed to get my elastic, DT, archers, swash 2 days ago. I've been pairing it with getaway for amplified then any hit plus the ball melee to proc swash
@althechicken9597
@althechicken9597 11 ай бұрын
I bet this thing is gonna be nuts in the forgotten game mode of gambit. wonder why no one's talking about that 🤔
@ashleyrobinson3394
@ashleyrobinson3394 10 ай бұрын
The O.G version is still available from the Tower.
@exile9024
@exile9024 11 ай бұрын
I wish the Strand melee had a sound cue so that it would be easier to to time the return catch.
@submachinegun5737
@submachinegun5737 11 ай бұрын
It does, I almost exclusively use that to catch it when throwing into a crowd and it can mostly be heard even in hectic fights but audio might be setup and settings dependent for actually hearing it well
@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4
@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 11 ай бұрын
It does. The icon also changes when its time to grab it too. Definitely have to hear for it but once you do its pretty consistent.
@nelsongodoy5101
@nelsongodoy5101 11 ай бұрын
Also you can hold the button down and you'll catch it automatically
@FYATroll
@FYATroll 11 ай бұрын
Pugilist+Dragonfly is exactly the roll I got the first time during hte first Iron Banner week. You can legit take it into GMs and do well with it.
@Smalusion
@Smalusion 11 ай бұрын
while this is the only weapon that can roll pugilist + dragonfly, zaouli's bane and smite of merain can both roll pugilist + firefly, which is very similar. was going for archer's tempo + dragonfly personally, but now i may have to try out pugilist instead though. nice video as always
@EzioZ
@EzioZ 10 ай бұрын
Was close got elastic,archers tempo and precision instrument with a reload masterwork, if i had diff mag option and dragonfly would been 9-10/10
@Vengieo
@Vengieo 11 ай бұрын
I don't know if it's still true but the first version of the bow's Vorpal Weapon did more damage than other bow's Vorpal Weapon. I think it was like 10% more or something.
@LightCrib2
@LightCrib2 11 ай бұрын
I hate that wild card doesn't activate with dragonfly/incandescent kills
@amateurhour5300
@amateurhour5300 11 ай бұрын
Kinda off topic from point of the drag, but I’ve been having an interesting time with hierarchy of needs. As a team-shot bow it’s pretty chunky, but it’s definitely outclassed by its legendary counterparts
@oryxfirstnavigator4795
@oryxfirstnavigator4795 11 ай бұрын
It is, but if you have the catalyst, getting that draw time up to Hush levels is crazy, and you can keep rings up almost constantly. It's just unfortunate that it takes a while to get there. I've never played on a team with one or two other people running Hierarchy, would be interesting
@Publano
@Publano 11 ай бұрын
I know iron banner is a casual game mode. But I would love if they added a way to get adept versions of these weapons. For PVE you have raids and grandmasters. For PVP you just have trials. It would definitely draw more people into iron banner.
@zaccarman6683
@zaccarman6683 11 ай бұрын
People might not like it but for pve on titan I've been using the new strand hand cannon with loose change and pugilist with the mod on so melee kills give unraveling rounds. Get a melee then you can get like 2 kills and your melee is practically back plus unraveling I'd a debuff giving you super fast reloads. You can also spawn tangles and orbs with it to keep up your woven armor. It feels really good all together to have almost 100% melee uptime without using Monte carlo
@max73916
@max73916 11 ай бұрын
sounds like a .7 kd build
@JH-vb1wo
@JH-vb1wo 11 ай бұрын
I got a 88 accuracy roll with no distractions eye of the storm and it's actually a solid duel bow in pvp. If you become good with this bow u will wreck people. Try to stick with teammates and you can pick people off with ease
@Cymirian
@Cymirian 11 ай бұрын
Damn I got an almost perfect roll, but it has an accuracy mw instead of draw time. How important is that 40ms difference? Is it worth focusing to get a 5/5?
@lgtokyo2665
@lgtokyo2665 11 ай бұрын
Nah. You good man
@Cymirian
@Cymirian 11 ай бұрын
@@lgtokyo2665 👍
@Delta6ICU
@Delta6ICU 11 ай бұрын
1400 crystals but I got the archers/swash with all the draw time reduction and the string that greatly increases accuracy. I hope it's worth it.
@widsof7862
@widsof7862 11 ай бұрын
ah i think i had this roll and deleted it thinking it wouldn’t be one to keep with dragonfly on it
@vspirit23
@vspirit23 11 ай бұрын
Managed to snag one with your suggestion of Pugilist and Dragonfly with Elastic String and Drawtime MW for a crisp 576ms Drawtime currently doming people in IB right now lol My only grip is that I wish the sights were like Biting Winds in that it highlights people with a red outline when ADSd But overall this bow is pretty sweet
@gravity-arbor
@gravity-arbor 11 ай бұрын
Oh I love highlighting scopes. So damn good.
@aaronjones6854
@aaronjones6854 11 ай бұрын
Wish I could get the pugilist dragonfly roll. 60+ engrams and 3 resets later. No luck. Frustrating.
@rock4ever812
@rock4ever812 11 ай бұрын
100+ focuses on the bow. I have yet to get a 576 with archers/swash
@Ima9ineBreak3r
@Ima9ineBreak3r 11 ай бұрын
I would have focused this weapon, if I wasn't so hell-bent on getting a good pressurized precision. Luckily, the default Stag that you get by ranking up is quite good for melee builds in the crucible. Slap that on an arc titan, get a melee kill, and you're ready to rock.
@adhirg
@adhirg 11 ай бұрын
what roll were you chasing on the fusion?
@Ima9ineBreak3r
@Ima9ineBreak3r 11 ай бұрын
Moving target and high-impact reserves. I've had it one too many times when I hit a guardian with 5 bolts at close range and do 195 damage (which I believe t9 and t10 survive) instead of the 205 you get with HIR and miss out on the kill. I got some good rolls, but not that exact one.
@swinganamiss1194
@swinganamiss1194 11 ай бұрын
Wish we had a strand good bow
@Ace-zm2tu
@Ace-zm2tu 11 ай бұрын
Really back in season 10 I remember everyone was saying it was mid as fuck
@eartharrow6772
@eartharrow6772 11 ай бұрын
Its no dragonfly explosive 500draw (50k kills) arsenic bite( this is almost better than trinity)
@justinshupack7886
@justinshupack7886 11 ай бұрын
can you post your or show me a video of your stasis warlock pvp build with this in mind
@Ivoravoid
@Ivoravoid 11 ай бұрын
I've focused 35+ POTSes, only one has had Swashbuckler. Also that one drop had no draw time decreases and a bad secondary perk. I'm really never gonna get this thing, and not from a lack of trying...
@dollabill707
@dollabill707 11 ай бұрын
How many shot would it take to proc precision instruments?
@GavinLIVE715
@GavinLIVE715 11 ай бұрын
Why is it considered a bow meta now, when light weights just received a consistency buff? I figured this was an Auto Rifle mega more than anything else.
@Aj-py8en
@Aj-py8en 11 ай бұрын
Its because of checkmate. Bows were way better in that mode, so all the good players started using them. Then they realize that bows are really strong when used by a good player and keep using them in other gamemodes. Auto rifles are actually meta, because they're the best for the most players. Bows are meta according to youtubers because they're only good for those good players.
@GavinLIVE715
@GavinLIVE715 11 ай бұрын
@@Aj-py8en like I just kind of really started getting in to them again(not played checkmate with them yet) but when I saw lightweights were getting a consistency buff, I farmed and got tyranny of heaven. I took a month after getting it to find the perfect pairings for it, but now I can destroy in crucible with the swash radiant combo and an explosive knife. But like then came so many calls for nerfs, and I just started messing with it lol.
@kristoflyubomirov4571
@kristoflyubomirov4571 11 ай бұрын
I dont mind people using bows tbh... just in trials they sit at the back of the map and dont team shoot with you which is so frustrating....
@Mayfired
@Mayfired 11 ай бұрын
The first Point of the Stag I got was Elastic String > Archer's Tempo > Precision Instrument, Draw Masterwork
@LuniNightwind
@LuniNightwind 11 ай бұрын
Eeeeeh I have Tyranny of the Heaven with Pugilist and Incandescent. dont need a head shot to cause explosions
@KingN3LO
@KingN3LO 11 ай бұрын
Bows aren't that annoying, people are just refusing to adjust their playstyle....im sure most shotgun apes aren't phased by bows.
@WrathNebula321
@WrathNebula321 11 ай бұрын
I mean, there are certain bows that are extremely annoying to deal with; Le Monarque with the poison damage (Despite the nerf, its still relatively annoying to fight), Wish-Ender for the wall hacks, Ticu's for the tag and snipe combo it has, just to name a few. But to be fair, I believe the main reason people find them annoying is because of their range and damage, not to mention how they have infinite ammo compared to something like a sniper rifle, couple that with Oathkeepers for Hunters, and you practically have the recipe for pain
@cornflakecomando9287
@cornflakecomando9287 11 ай бұрын
Said the bow user
@oryxfirstnavigator4795
@oryxfirstnavigator4795 11 ай бұрын
This is the most based comment I've read so far
@KingN3LO
@KingN3LO 11 ай бұрын
@WrathNebula321 so just rush them ..this comes back to adjusting playstyle
@WrathNebula321
@WrathNebula321 11 ай бұрын
@@KingN3LO While I'm not a rush down type of player, you make a fair point.
@beacon666
@beacon666 11 ай бұрын
Did bro just one shot with a bow?
@aaronjones6854
@aaronjones6854 11 ай бұрын
But I can’t though. 40 engrams and neither bow roll has dropped.
@hmmdoh7835
@hmmdoh7835 11 ай бұрын
i have arch tempo and swar but i can't kill anyone in pvp... i sux at bow lol
@nicho_darta
@nicho_darta 11 ай бұрын
i really hoped it would have voltshock...unlucky
@thecastleofnothing7074
@thecastleofnothing7074 11 ай бұрын
I don't see the point of doing that. I think bungie is specifically avoiding putting voltshot on a bow because they saw what that could do on Trinity ghoul and they don't want another repeat of something like wrecking havoc in pve or pvp. So I say do not put voltshot on a bow ever unless you want to invalided the voltshot exotic bow. Trin ghoul
@redfalcon8062
@redfalcon8062 11 ай бұрын
I'm not setting foot into Iron Banner any more. I wanted to get the title done and the matchmaking system kept fucking up. I just need one more win but it was loss after loss. Guess what?! It was Bows, Wells, Bubbles, Bows, Wells, Bubbles, etc. I lost my mind in there. I finally got it done but fuck's sake I hate Iron Banner. If I REALLY wanted this Stag I'd have to hate myself more and sell my kidney to get it right now.
@damonm.
@damonm. 11 ай бұрын
Bows are f*cking me up in Iron Banner
@chilli2801
@chilli2801 11 ай бұрын
The bow meta is tremendous… ly horrible to play against
@TheFightingLion92
@TheFightingLion92 11 ай бұрын
Inhate bows
@TheFightingLion92
@TheFightingLion92 11 ай бұрын
I hate bows
@Artikz_
@Artikz_ 11 ай бұрын
The main issue is... Playing against bows it's the most boring thing ever, peek > get down to 1 hp > heal > repeat
@ajsultani1636
@ajsultani1636 11 ай бұрын
I don’t bag. Ever. I hate that I now purposely find and bag bow users. I even bag my teammates. Not proud of this, lol.
@Elijah-bj4vo
@Elijah-bj4vo 11 ай бұрын
Use sniper
@prodmorningstar
@prodmorningstar 11 ай бұрын
The telesto bolts are actual garbage in PVP, just use the iron banner perk, specially if you running an invis focused hunter.
@Dodgemasta
@Dodgemasta 11 ай бұрын
Best I could do was elemental swash
@musicaltarrasque
@musicaltarrasque 11 ай бұрын
"really obtainable" I ran hours and hours of iron banner, got 50+ engrams and haven't even unlocked the weapon yet its so stupid, it has insanely low drop rate
@MurdocNiccolas
@MurdocNiccolas 9 ай бұрын
I got this, but I also got pug and tricorn and decided to keep that instead Damn be to vault space!
@BuffaloFeather
@BuffaloFeather 11 ай бұрын
The freakin vendor roll is the best swash roll imo… freakin trolling the people who bought the vendor roll last time. Just make it so we can buy it again. Damn missing that roll stings. So lame
@N0strapapas
@N0strapapas 11 ай бұрын
I have reset my Iron Banner rank twice trying to get Archer's Tempo & Precision Instrument and still haven't gotten it yet.
@thewonkehplayer1943
@thewonkehplayer1943 11 ай бұрын
Let the bows shine at its peak, its balanced as it should be.
@max73916
@max73916 11 ай бұрын
hell no
@thewonkehplayer1943
@thewonkehplayer1943 11 ай бұрын
@max73916 Accept it and embrace it.
@ST-oo3lg
@ST-oo3lg 11 ай бұрын
how much do you pay the other players to play terribly? cuz every IB game is a GD sweat fest every time. by the end, im at like a 1.7kd and my team is 0.3-0.6kd and 4/6 of the other team is 2.7+….. like, what do i do?
@BingoSandyman
@BingoSandyman 11 ай бұрын
FIRST focused roll I got after watching this was 5/5 with the pugilist dragonfly combination!
@GeremyG
@GeremyG 11 ай бұрын
I’ve been a bow hater since day 1. Glad to see other people hopping on the hate train.
@TSGN_Leviathan
@TSGN_Leviathan 11 ай бұрын
Everyone running around enjoying their bows and I am just in a dark corner still waiting for Bungie to fix trace rifle visual problem. Tone-deaf much…
@deathshade777
@deathshade777 11 ай бұрын
Maybe it’s good in pvp. Sadly useless for pve since if your using a bow your using trinity ghoul, verglas, or ticuus
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