Pokémon Brilliant Diamond & Shining Pearl - All Frontier Brain Palmer (Tower Tycoon)

[@KevinEontrainer381]

Cynthia: "You're paying royalty for that music, Palmer"

[@Oscarus4250]

Cynthia has just FINED Palmer. _Barry will remember that_

[@noctiskuzunoha4059]

Palmer: actually the persons in charge of this ramke are so lazy, that they not include my theme.

[@wikiuser92]

​@@noctiskuzunoha4059 Palmer used this theme in the original DP too.

[@brendzoloroso8456]

Maybe cynthia is the lost mom of barry. Hehehehe

[@nathandevane1725]

​@brendzoloroso8456 it'd be funny if they got a divorce, and the mom you see in the beginning of the game is really his stepmom 😂

[@tuvyamaeir4684]

...OH COME ON! They remade the Frontier Brain theme in ORAS...and the Frontier Brains weren't even THERE! I love Cynthia's theme, don't get me wrong, but Palmer has his own!

[@bryanc1772]

Gamefreak hates Battle Frontier

[@charcolttheone3492]

Same here

[@charcolttheone3492]

They really hate difficulty

[@이승효-j9s]

It's definitely disrespectful thing

[@luiscarlosgarcia663]

BD/SP are not GF games But yeah, GF hates BF

[@jakandratchet9930]

I wish it was the Frontier Brain music. Here’s hoping for Giratina to have his own theme song returning at least 🤞🏻

[@ksoundkaiju9256]

It does

[@Critical_HitZ]

And it’s even better than before

[@MariOmor1]

The champion theme is already good

[@marcoasturias8520]

you get the new giratina theme in ramanas park

[@matthewwylie2735]

Don't worry, GF didn't COMPLETELY betray us... but it still feels like it

[@zanarih6450]

Palmer: I have a regigigas (with slow start) His son: _SPEEEEEED_

[@mohwe1007]

Kinda a shame it didn’t get a new ability Man, anything other than slow start would’ve been good

[@clashdash5654]

@@mohwe1007 yeah even something generic like pressure would be fine really

[@Charis_Verity]

THUDD

[@Xstar7]

That’s upsetting. No Frontier Brain music.

[@Mixeli]

Yea..

[@SilvuddyPkmnMusic]

That’s it. Not buying this game anymore.

[@bryanc1772]

Play Pokémon Emerald or Platinum if you love the battle frontier a lot

[@codyjuarezlopez5415]

@@bryanc1772 or Heart Gold and Soul Silver

[@NoobGamer-di1dw]

Cynthia theme better anyways and he didn’t have his theme in Diamond and Pearl.

[@markramos1216]

They updated several movesets, such as giving Regigigas Protect, but they couldn’t give us _one_ highly anticipated Battle Frontier theme? Make it make sense.

[@espurrseyes42]

GamefrEAk is lazy. Boom. There's your sense.

[@Apfelmelonenmann]

@@espurrseyes42 the game wasnt made by gamfreak. and it's just the usual "faithful remake" meme, in the original Palmer also had cynthia theme

[@espurrseyes42]

@@Apfelmelonenmann GamefrEAk's leader still directed this game, and that meme goes out the window given that they gave us Gym Leader and League refights (arguably some of the best since they have competitive teams) along with some other stuff that wasn't in DP. Also keeping permanent EXP Share.

[@Zarugoza5969]

@@espurrseyes42 also returned to one-use tms for god knows why

[@espurrseyes42]

@@Zarugoza5969 Don't even get me started on THAT dumb decision. You'd think the company that keeps toning their games down in difficulty and story quality in the name of "For Kids" and "Accessibility" would've kept TMs permanent, but nope.

[@krampusapprenticeofdarksan7870]

For those confused this is the Battle Tower! It's only 1 facility and 1 Frontier Brain opposed to Battle Frontier with multiple Frontier Brains and Facilities specializing in different battle styles.

[@shockwavesgt3313]

I'm mega sad there's no battle frontier, at least we have palmer. Man I wish him and Barry had a in game interaction

[@bryanc1772]

Play Pokémon emerald, HGSS or Platinum if you love the battle frontier I doubt gamefreak is ever bringing Battle Frontier back again. Platinum was the last game they did that for

[@henriqueabreu7862]

They are double battle partners in the Battle tower

[@brink7894]

@@bryanc1772 they did it in HGSS tho it was the same as platinum’s if i’m not mistaken

[@sylvyboi]

@@bryanc1772 The last one was HGSS since they came after Platinum

[@bryanc1772]

@@brink7894 pretty much the same. At least gamefreak was nice enough to bring it back on a GSC remake despite it not having battle frontier in the first place

[@harukami912]

In ORAS, they remixed the Frontier Brain theme for tribute. Here, they didn't even bother arranging a remix. SMFH

[@wikiuser92]

That's because Palmer used Cynthia's theme in DP as well.

[@bigd1O1]

They didn't even have it in oras they pricks so dunno how they remix a theme if they never put the place in the renakes????

[@mynameiscal3478]

Well rip my favorite music track in all of Pokémon. Oh well, at least giratina and the lake trio themes are here

[@darkterrell]

In the original it was this theme. Platinum, and HGSS ,had the battle frontier theme... I miss it...

[@spazzattackk101]

Lake trio theme is the best imp

[@jaredcook4414]

Palmer has a Regigigas. Palmer, the man from whom Barry gets his ADHD from, has a Pokemon with a handicap ability? Especially considering that it's the handicap ability that hinders not only Attack, but SPEED as well?! Man, that guy shows different colors in battle....

[@staydetermined6717]

Never thought about it like that 🧍🏻

[@jaredcook4414]

@Miror B GOD I know, but the Gen Alphas my not necessarily find that to be relevant

[@lorenzocampo5633]

if you think about it barry had the patience to get a munchlax and a heracros from the honey tree or maybe just luck

[@jaredcook4414]

@@lorenzocampo5633 Heracross is rare, but can be found by luck. Munchlax is even rarer, and Barry only got the patience for that out of character development

[@OmegaTheMyth]

I think they just spammed Palmer with Tower legal legendaries specifically from Sinnoh.

[@wario1226]

Bro he missed 4 times in that first fight. I've never gotten anywhere near that lucky. Skin of his teeth right there

[@Bobrob1597]

the first Palmer battle is a HUGE spike compared to everything else. Most mons aren't even evolved and BOOM Palmer starts wrecking your face.

[@picante_the_dragonslayer]

It's kind of funny how even in the original Diamond and Pearl Palmer didn't have his own theme, but it is still weird that they used Cynthia's theme. I would have loved to hear a Remastered Sinnoh Frontier Brain Battle theme, but I'm not going to lose sleep over it when I can still enjoy the original and the remixes made by wonderful musicians on the internet.

[@sylvyboi]

Yeah, given that they even did a remaster of the Hoenn Frontier Brain one in ORAS even though it didn't have the Battle Frontier. Kinda disappointing

[@Terumimi]

Yeah, dont get me wrong it definitely sucks, but i think this game is still great either way

[@Gurkan790]

I think it's like with Red having Lance's theme and fans were fine with that. Still kinda sad that they didn't give him an own theme

[@prismaticseal2553]

Well, I am, WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[@noname144able]

I just think people are overreacting a bit. This is apparently a crime but Red and Lance having the exact same theme, even in HGSS was okay because...?

[@wesleynewi4816]

man, your first fight was really lucky !!

[@teamtundra2619]

I’m more disappointed that the frontier brain theme wasn’t remade… ORAS remade the emerald one without the frontier, this could’ve too…

[@wikiuser92]

Palmer didn't use that theme in DP.

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

@@wikiuser92 So?

[@wikiuser92]

@@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 So it makes sense why he wouldn't use the FB theme in these games.

[@MorePower8679]

Critical hits. Always come when you don’t need them, always come when you opponent needs them. Unless you are building a Pokémon around critical hits (like Sniper-Scope Lens-Cross Poison/Night Slash Drapion)

[@TheCosmicTraveler1]

So... no battle tower ribbons either

[@jigvig3240]

Bro should have used waterfall in first chance

[@julianflores7759]

First fight was lucky af! Rhyperior missed his rock wrecker and milotic her hypnosis. I wonder how many times you had to try this to get it right

[@apo-gaming8988]

Luxray survives to Dracolosse , thats literraly pretty impossible

[@connordrake5713]

I knew it, Palmer will have Cynthia's theme as same as the Battle Tower in the original Diamond and Pearl.

[@Mad-Cigarettes]

Bro This is why we needed the platinum remake This is a deception

[@caioprimario2159]

What disappointed me most was the music, was it too costly to recreate the music? like the guys have a lot of fucking money to make a boring millstone remake.

[@o.h.6946]

ikr. where's the frontier brain music. its the thing ive been waiting for

[@Lonewulf321]

Just play platinum again

[@supercyc10]

There's noooo way Rhyperior's Ice Beam should do that much damage. He only has 55 SP ATK

[@pokejoseph]

He’s got an expert belt

[@supercyc10]

@@pokejoseph *facepalm* ofCOURSE he’d have an expert belt

[@exoltik3199]

I'd laugh if the Rhyperior also has max special attack EVs and modest nature 😂

[@guroscat4111]

palmer's rhyperior got max sp. atk evs

[@snugs3633]

Ain’t no excuses why this man doesn’t have is Battle Frontier theme

[@Oscarus4250]

Wait... Why does Rhyperior have Ice Beam instead of Ice Punch? I know that Ice Beam is stronger, but it isn't that big of a jump (90BP vs 75BP). But the fact that Rhyperior's Attack is almost THRICE as big as Special Attack (140 Attack vs 55 Special Attack)... Ice Punch would be much more effective... 96% of the time

[@MegaMachiOnline]

Sometimes trainers will tech super effective moves with the inferior offensive stat to clip defensive walls built to tank those super effective hits on the other end. Like a bulky defensive garchomp is more likely than a bulky special defensive garchomp.

[@Oscarus4250]

@@MegaMachiOnline That's the remaining 4%.

[@Gamexpertvids]

Rhyperior used Ice Beam in D/P Battle Tower but not in Pt/HG/SS Battle Frontier Battle Tower.

[@bryanc1772]

Most Pokémon that can tank Quakeslide will normally be stuff like Garchomp and Landorus-T who can get bypass easily with Ice Beam instead of ice punch even Gliscor

[@HaxeRain]

@@bryanc1772 not forget also salamence, an infamous intimidate user, so with that in mind, it actually does help if it has something like life orb or similar, only thing i can see properly tanking that is either if they have yachi berry or assailt vest landorus-T which is one of my favs sets for landorus-T

[@RandoGrunt]

Well, clearly they went for the FULL nostilgia experience. Everything about it. Nothing Platinum. Sigh.

[@MisterRegretti]

pain

[@Critical_HitZ]

There’s a lot of platinum actually

[@espurrseyes42]

@@Critical_HitZ Not enough.

[@Critical_HitZ]

@@espurrseyes42 What isn’t enough? It has just about every platinum feature except the Battle Frontier. You are being disingenuous.

[@Zarugoza5969]

@@Critical_HitZ um gym leader and elite four teams?

[@compatriot852]

Palmer probably all confused where the rest of his battle frontier crew went after Masuda Thanos snapped them out of existence

[@chilX3467]

I was laughing when he used regigigas til I found out that it finally gets protect, now I'm just chuckling because it's still bad.

[@shiraori5450]

I don't mind the whole no battle frontier thing, but god having no frontier brain theme is a real let down.

[@bryanc1772]

Gamefreak hates Battle Frontier lol

[@Zepellin]

@@bryanc1772 gamefreak? It isn’t a gamefreak game.

[@dguy4547]

@@Zepellin game freak was still in charge

[@Zepellin]

@@dguy4547 the Pokémon company exist

[@shiraori5450]

@@Zepellin which is a subsidiary of Game Freak the company, there's a reason we don't see "made by the pokemon company" or just it's name in the opening credits.

[@shadowvictor7590]

Quagsire using Ice Beam with his mouth is so fitting

[@mrchewy9933]

WHY IS THERE NO FRONTIER BRAIN THEME???!!??!

[@Cudcudcudcudcuscuski]

My god if I could get that lucky against Palmer the first time

[@DerReaperEX1]

cool, my experience was, all of my pkm got onehitted and i avoided non of these attacks

[@wehazittekle4083]

Bro the two misses were clutch

[@Linkaro2]

I see they went full DP... as need having Palmer use the champ theme again.

[@DanKurosawa]

I'm disappointed that they did not use the original frontier brain music from Platinum

[@Zarugoza5969]

What item does this Heatran hold? Originally, it had the Focus Sash

[@Truef1ame]

Bright powder

[@leonkennedy1643]

Damn lucky he miss the last dragon rush lol

[@menti9980]

People are actually complaining about a theme song lmao, I play with all audio off so I really couldn’t care

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

Why? Worried about waking your parents up lol

[@menti9980]

@@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 nah i just have it on my second monitor and my headphones are connected to my mic which is on my pc

[@TheNitoGaming]

What happened to that garchomp is exactly why I will copy how Cynthia has him setup

[@geg708]

_What's up with the OST?_

[@darkraiknight386]

Another case of the “faithful remake” syndrome. Sadly, that kickass Frontier Brain battle theme didn’t exist in the original DP, so it doesn’t exist here.

[@angrioo]

@@darkraiknight386 Then why is giratina's theme from platinum remixed?? Doesn't make any sense

[@sylvyboi]

@@darkraiknight386 Those games are inconsistent as HELL

[@rogue1248]

... I don't remember Palmer having that cowlick hair strand in his artwork, where did that come from?

[@Kageravager]

I'm glad that Diamond and Pearl, the games that laid the groundwork for quite a few mechanics going forward in the franchise, got remakes. I'm still salty that they're almost a 1 to 1 translation of what we got from vanilla D/p and having most of the battle frontier axed.

[@bigd1O1]

Better then oras and them yeeting it away

[@azurestarseliph5926]

*[Comment about There being no remix of the Frontier Brain theme]*

[@cancer_banter1847]

0:43 isn't that Nessa's throw animation? I was thinking hop, milo or leon's throw would be better

[@__4762]

It's similar but not reused. Nessa points her toes and brings her leg higher. For some reason Palmer just throws his pokeball like a dork.

[@anthonymalone4714]

Nintendo would give us a frontier brain w/o the theme

[@mv-jp8ul]

This was the theme lmao

[@RichieGonzo]

He had his own theme in platinum, as did all the frontier brains

[@krzysztofganko1464]

Fans: „ Where is Battle Frontier Brain theme?!” Masuda: „What is Battle Frontier?”

[@wikiuser92]

This was Palmer's theme in the original games too.

[@stritez3176]

Ils n’ont pas mis le thème des meneurs de Zone je suis dégoûté ça faisait des années que je l’attendais en remake c’est mon thème de combat préféré …

[@caioprimario2159]

Fast money

[@RubyTerrarian]

Why didn’t they remix the frontier brain theme? That shit was sick as hell

[@markramos1216]

me: Please, for the love of God, please keep the Frontier Brain music… 🤞 me now: Disappointed, but not surprised 😔

[@Kenrone]

"faithful remake"

[@TheKing24game]

wtf when i fight his milotic its hypnosis never misses, same thing with its hydro pump. almost like it has 100 accuracy for every move. I try thunder and i miss twice in a row.

[@JCBjr15]

Why use Cynthia's theme tho? I get they probably didn't have time or just didn't want to bother remixing the frontier brain theme, but why Cynthia's? The E4 theme would have made a little bit more sense.

[@Love-xl3vq]

Because he is no E4 and is literally the Champion of the Tower + that's what they used in og DP

[@Gurkan790]

@@Love-xl3vq and probably just the same thing with Red and Lance

[@samhaider482]

Your first battle was so lucky lol

[@RhyperiorRanger]

Lazy bastards couldn’t even be bothered to use the gen 4 Frontier Brain theme 🙄

[@davinlee3412]

Can you remake this video but with the Frontier Brain music?

[@Love-xl3vq]

Zame already did

[@ashbadger7885]

how can we not tal about the 3HP win if the last dragon rush had not missed it would be GG nail biting stuff haha

[@TimothyMTran706]

I’m really despite how they instead of Frontier Brain Platinum, & HGSS Theme, The vs Tower Tycoon Palmer Battle Music is now Champion Cynthia Battle theme. 😓

[@sonario6489]

It was like that in the original games actually. The frontier brain theme started in Platinum.

[@lunch7213]

Is the AI as broken as Emerald’s battle factory? That shit is rage fuel

[@NealIRC]

If this man shares the same music with Cynthia, can he also share the same bed or bathtub with Cynthia?

[@brandonespinoza9279]

I wish BDSP's Sinnoh Battle Tower was like Pokémon Sword and Shield's Galar Battle Tower.

[@paolocamerotto7573]

You were SO FUCKING LUCKY against that dragonite

[@TheMoises1213]

Ya waist no time at all dang 😂

[@vivekvangala942]

*waste cmon bro

[@TheMoises1213]

@@vivekvangala942 it’s social media

[@Mehr5chub]

@@TheMoises1213 that's not a reason for being stupid

[@alfonsopayan09]

Weighst Vro

[@TheMoises1213]

@@Mehr5chub uh oh social media grammar police here 😂. I bet your an older adult too

[@iamjohnporter67]

What?! They used Cynthia's theme? That is such a letdown. I like the music don't get me wrong, but it just doesn't fit well with this guy.

[@SurrealKeenan]

ice beam rhyperior. a 3000 iq move

[@Taeyeon1989-r5z]

You’re basically win it by luck 😅😅😅

[@emboar7247]

Gamefreak is allergic to doing things correctly.

[@rycanarts]

@Mykeje but the same (Game Freak) director...

[@lightwarrior7091]

No brain music make sense, in the original dp has the champion music. In platimun they added the brain theme. Why people is mad about this ????

[@dguy4547]

Because why revert back to something that was improved for the sake of nostalgia

[@somebritishidiot]

If they actually made a faithful remake i wouldn't care, but with how much is already changed it just seems lazy doing stuff like this

[@TanteiGH]

I can’t believe it took me 15 years to find out he’s Barry’s dad xD

[@joelgutierrez4053]

Can someone explain something to me? I’m thinking of getting the 4 star trainer card and one of the requirements is beat Palmer in Masters in the Battle Tower. Is it like regular singles where he appears at battle 21 and 49? Or is he the absolute last opponent? Not enough information gathered at the moment

[@fothorso]

Is there still a "What the.... Daddy?!" scene with Barry

[@drinkwithmatt]

Majin Boo .... You win just because of that 😂

[@thatssoreizen]

What a bummer? I was kinda expecting for a remixed Vs. Battle Frontier theme, not a rehash of Cynthia's theme. :-(

[@sampanna6983]

Eww ILCA, give him the Frontier Brain theme

[@zalleg1013]

even oras bothered to remake the battle frontier theme

[@edumirokuvi9887]

This is embarrassing. Even in the ORAS no-battle frontier they gave us the remastered theme of the brain battle theme.

[@Kenrone]

Mixeli: "Alright, I'm about to face Palmer." * Champion theme playing * Almost everyone in the comments: "Why does he have Cynthia's champion theme instead of his own?😩" Ilca: "When we say a "faithful remake", We mean a FAITHFUL REMAKE !"

[@micah2936]

That was all luck… even with 2 double teams set up I don’t get a single miss. I’ve tried like 10 times with different strats 😢 Edit: I caught a shiny dragonaire with hidden ability and great stats in speed, attack, HP, and special attack in Sun/moon and transferred over. I maxed out the attack EVs and put the last EVs into sp. def and def. Dragonite with its hidden ability is a monster. I can now wipe the entire team with my single dragonite.

[@Richtofenfan]

Fuuuuuu they followed through the letter in making it as it was back then eh? Cynthia’s theme instead of the frontier brain music from platinum darn.

[@tony76935]

YOOOO they put the Battle Frontier in this!? Awesome 🤩🤩

[@pokeymaster9415]

That's the battle tower

[@manueljaramillo2520]

It’s just the Battle Tower.

[@tony76935]

Nvm apparently lol

[@bryanc1772]

Hell nah they didn’t

[@tony76935]

@@bryanc1772 I know that now mb lol

[@osu5220]

NO FRONTAIN BRAINS THEME :(

[@Thug_Nose]

This team got me to master rank tier 10: Jolly Garchomp w/ Focus Sash Ability: Rough Skin 252 atk 252 spd Swords Dance Outrage Earthquake Poison Jab Adamant Dragonite w/ Lum Berry Ability: Multiscale 252 atk 252 spd Dragon Dance Outrage Thunderpunch Fire punch Adamant Scizor W/ Muscle Band Ability: Technician 252 atk 252 spd Swords Dance Bullet Punch X-Scissor U-Turn

[@__4762]

This game would've been much better had they bothered to remake the content from Platinum like frontier, villa, and everytjing else it brought as opposed to sticking strictly to DP. HGSS got this right over a decade ago, why is the series regressing?

[@aquasylveon4745]

Why not battle frontier theme from platinum

[@sebastianguedez3552]

In the original diamond and pearl games Palmer doesn’t have his own music theme, he has the same as Cynthia…

[@mrnelis8037]

he never had one

[@silvernado8644]

Aw… they used Cynthia’s theme. Also wait… Rhyperior can learn Ice Beam?

[@06kishanchoudhary59]

The rock monster can surf , ice beam and even thunderbolt

[@bryanc1772]

I prefer to still play Pokémon Platinum

[@xenoviasuper44]

All Frontier Brain Palmer (Tower Tycoon) 21win streak

[@Youareexpendable]

FRONTIER BRAIN?! IN BDSP!??

[@joeymirandi2704]

No mega evolutions, distortion world, or battle frontier :(

[@THECMON6969]

Wow u mad lucky on dragonite i wish i had this luck on battle tree

[@Ocean0Bluu]

Rip platinum Frontier Brain Remix 😭

[@MasterBlader958]

why garchomp into rhyperior when quag is 4x super effective with waterfall?

[@ShadowOfTheIdeal]

I can't beat Palmer. And I had no idea his Milotic had Hypnosis. If you beat Palmer, will you gain access to the rest of the island? (Princess Tutu for Super Smash Bros.!)

[@zestysword]

In order to gain access to the rest of the island you need to see all mons in the Sinnoh dex

[@Terumimi]

A little upsetting that they didnt even include the frontier brain music, but tbh thats like... My only issue with this game tbh

[@Litterbugtaylor]

Could have just used waterfall on quagsire for a 4x hit with stab because both rock and ground are weak to water where ice beam isn't strong against rock and isn't stab

[@lorenzomabalos9851]

Well this was severely underwhelming

[@bryanc1772]

Pokémon platinum is still better than this game

[@lorenzomabalos9851]

For sure

[@ksoundkaiju9256]

Are his Pokémon EV trained?

[@Cheeseman42046]

What is good with that rhyperior? It’s SA is nuts for no reason.

[@melaniev4390]

I was so close to beating palmer the first time. I went for one last Dragon Rush but it missed and his Dragonite destroyed my Garchomp…

[@s0simhere635]

Why does he have cynthia theme

[@Mixeli]

Unfortunately that is what he have back in DP

[@mrboost4186]

Because this is a lazily made game all over

[@glitter4686]

@@mrboost4186 It's actually extremely polished and well done. You can blame the annoying deadline they have to submit by.

[@krampusapprenticeofdarksan7870]

@@glitter4686 But who decides the deadline. The company or is their a policy outside of the company they have to follow?

[@glitter4686]

@@krampusapprenticeofdarksan7870 The pokemon company, that has to make deadlines for the anime and merchandise. Honestly game freak is to blame too but iilca no