Pokémon Colosseum (GCN) Retrospective | Double Trouble

[@AntiRiku]

They need to let Genius Sonority cook once more. I'd honestly rather have another game in this style than a mainline one.

[@jenisia3600]

God the classic game that GF wont acknowledge, is it cause the Pokemon have better animation than their current games? 😂. Great review as always.

[@ntmaproductions]

@@jenisia3600 It's an odd situation. Tangental media like the anime, manga, and spinoffs are basically non-entities to GF in general, with only a few exceptions like Ash-Greninja and Go (although they seem to exert more pressure on Niantic than they do for GS, also it made a trillion dollars). Several staff from GS would join GF in time, so clearly they rrcognized the wuality, but I think they prefer to ignore it so that they don't get pressured into continuing it tbh

[@ilovereptiles687]

Who's GF?

[@ntmaproductions]

@@ilovereptiles687 gamefreak

[@ilovereptiles687]

@@ntmaproductions Thanks 🙂

[@pederotterson4119]

I wonder about that considering how similar the Blueberry Acadamy was.

[@RobertLydonReviews]

I’ve played this game twice once way back when it came out to complete my fire red national dex. The second was probably a decade later because i learned how to transfer Pokemon from the GBA to the 3Ds(and now the switch) and i wanted to move all the shadow Pokemon to my then 3Ds and now switch. Did it successfully and all of them who could added to violet are in it. It’s a fun game with decent animations for the time. Deff a grind at times but i still like it a lot. Also i love how you get Espeon and umbreon at the start.

[@ntmaproductions]

@@RobertLydonReviews they're both very good at showing off thr ways you can exploit doubles which workd in yhis games favor heabily

[@sorinsilverheart3200]

This game walked so Gale of Darkness could run. I love this group of games and wish every day GF would try to make a new one.

[@ntmaproductions]

@@sorinsilverheart3200 Genius Sonority too busy in the Cafe Mix mines 😔

[@TevyaSmolka]

I remember this game growing up good times

[@aster4jaden]

This Game and its Sequel are gems, even though RSE introduced Double Battles this Game got really got me into them and how to actually Double Battle. I remember getting stuck due to the level hike which caused me to quit the the Game but coming backing to it later, restarting it and by some miracle I actually finished it and caught all Shadow Pokemon and purified them. One of my favourite things about this Game was being able to trade Pokemon between RSE, my excitement of getting Pokémon I could not normally get and breeding them was boundless. One of my favourite Soundtrack's came from this game: Relic Forest.

[@ntmaproductions]

@@aster4jaden There's definitely some rough level jumps here, and arguably even worse in XD but they got a lot of teambuilding and strategy potential 😅

[@aster4jaden]

@@ntmaproductions Funny thing, I actually found XD a lot more easier and was able to finish it without rage quitting. I hope you don't mind me mentioning it in this message, but when you have the time i'd love to watch an XD Retrospective made by you.

[@ntmaproductions]

@@aster4jaden It's in production :) XD is generally easier but there's a big post-game level bump that is misery to get through

[@tercial]

The fact that your limited surprisingly makes it more fun

[@ntmaproductions]

@@tercial Agree!

[@ThomastheDankEngine8900]

XD is better with this. You can replay Colosseum maybe once and your good options are gone after that.

[@ZoranTheSiegeTower]

Just found your Pokemon Retrospective and loving it so far. Would adore it continued into XD and other Pokemon games. I'll be perusing your Zelda series after this and see which other playlists you got going on with series I'm fond of.

[@ntmaproductions]

Yeah we got a million playlists lol. Great though glad you enjoyed it!!

[@ntmaproductions]

@@ZoranTheSiegeTower XD should also be out relatively soon :)

[@Nephyyy]

It would be awesome to see you tackle XD as well. I've watched so many colosseum and XD retrospectives and it's always great hearing a new perspective. I completely agree that the combat can be a slog but as a kid I always enjoyed how cinematic it felt, especially when compared to the GBA games. Games. This reminds me how important it is to slow down and enjoy the moment or battle. Thanks again for the video!

[@ntmaproductions]

@@Nephyyy They're very cool, and I got immense respect for the animators, so it feels bad dissing the work, but it would be nice if the game moved along sometimes 😅

[@Nephyyy]

@@ntmaproductions very true! Purifying is also an absolute nightmare timewise 😭

[@ntmaproductions]

@@Nephyyy Thank god for the purification chamber in XD. You knock those bad boys out in 5 minutes passively

[@klargin]

Well, I’m just following instructions you gave us. I’d like to see an XD video for sure! Your videos are great. And after I’ve begun to play the original games again, picking up a few things here and there is also great. Keep it up, enjoy the break!

[@ntmaproductions]

@@klargin The break won't be that long 😅

[@escapeorb]

this was good, would certainly watch a vid about the sequel. great work!

[@ntmaproductions]

@@escapeorb It'll be happening in the not to distant future :)

[@charliesheen17]

XD video is needed! I love these long retrospective videos! Colosseum and XD were my first Pokémon games!

[@TheReZisTLust]

I truly believe pokemon should have stayed on console during the gc era. Colusieum showed that the series can work if you put half a brain cell together.

[@ntmaproductions]

@@TheReZisTLust idk, fromat wise Pokemon works well as a pickup and play game, catch some stuff, organize your boxes, put i down. the console may have been a bit commital especially with its aim at children

[@joelgeles2750]

Well made as always! Love these types of videos

[@pastelpunkdemon]

This is my second favorite Pokemon game in the series, love it!!

[@ntmaproductions]

@@pastelpunkdemon I hope not to disappoint too much

[@ladonmccabe]

Both this and XD is one of the best Pokemon games made. Such a fantastic experience.

[@MrStrawtube]

I played this game recently after almost 20 years and I still think it holds up really well. The only issues I had were the battle animation speed and also the sudden level curves close to the end of the game. I wouldn't mind some extra grinding if the battle animations were much faster though. I would just play on my GBA while waiting for my turn again lol. Otherwise, I loved the idea of rescuing shadow pokemon and playing in a slightly darker tone than normally on a mainline game. I don't want to just go back to this constantly. I'd rather see this series get a proper sequel

[@ntmaproductions]

@@MrStrawtube I think GS is too tied up in veey profitable mobile games to come back to this sadly, but I would love to see a revisit. The limited roster opens up a surprising amount of creativity and thought when you're actually playimg between the feature length animations 😅

[@CopingContinuous]

What a sick team you built here

[@nicbrown1304]

Please make an XD video! Your content is amazing and underrated!

[@RoboHoundGames]

Can’t watch yet but wanna jump in to say Mirror B is the best boss character in any Pokémon game

[@ntmaproductions]

@@RoboHoundGames Agreed tbh

[@jasonworsner3307]

I remember the battle animations taking forever too.

[@CarbonMalite]

One thing I also like about Colo over other games is the pacing. Where certain games are like a 10 hour experience padded with lengthy and visually uninteresting cutscenes, Colo keeps the action at a consistent flow and the game can be completed in a couple sittings. I think starting at 20 makes it much more snappy and accessible too.

[@heathenly_aesthetic7233]

Dude I LOVED this game!!

[@JustJulyo]

Would love for this game to be remade!

[@feartheoldblood7222]

Colosseum and XD are amazing games flaws and all. I frequent them. It's probably my nostalgia but to this day it's like a breathe of fresh air. It's just different enough to be interesting to me.

[@patrickboldea599]

An XD one would honestly be really cool. Even though XD has battle animations I do think it has more varied gameplay and a much faster pace (until the end game where it grinds to a halt)

[@ntmaproductions]

@@patrickboldea599 Yeah it does seem they trimmed the animations a bit to keep the pace a little cleaner

[@ThatGuy-wl8xk]

I was playing Colosseum and wanted to know if Shadow Pokemon earned happiness despite being shadow. Been using a Hitmontop and its level is starting to fall off. I was thinking of using TM:Return on it because Shadow Rush has been it's main move. It loses Shadow Rush on purification but it's other moves are bad.

[@ntmaproductions]

@@ThatGuy-wl8xk Happiness is definitely a mechanic in Colo, just not a very important one :)

[@CopingContinuous]

“Hopefully not Hunter” lfmaooo

[@ZeroOmega-vg8nq]

to me my biggest annoyance with collosiiuem was they NEVER justified why groudon amd kyogre were on the cover

[@ntmaproductions]

@@ZeroOmega-vg8nq lol yeah I think they wanted to make the tie to RS more obvious, theyre also on the jp cover

[@tercial]

This is a classic

[@ThatReallyPaleGuy]

Great video, glad you popped up on my page.

[@ntmaproductions]

@@ThatReallyPaleGuy 🙏 got plenty more on other Pokemon games, movies, games in general

[@Karnage420698238]

goddamn gen 3 was just freaking amazing this gales of darkness mystery dungeon rescue team fire red/leaf green ruby sapphire and emerald are all my favorite games in the entire series I know gale of darkness improved on many of this games “flaws” but colosseum is still my favorite game of the two its just damn near perfect

[@ntmaproductions]

@@Karnage420698238 I guess we'll see how I feel about XD soon-ish :)

[@otto2280]

Holy kino

[@ntmaproductions]

@@otto2280 ottoomfie

[@killerjack144]

Incredible! XDGoD next please!! 🙏

[@Weewoo12]

This was one of many games where I got stick on a boss near the end of the game and then never finished it. I wish I still had access to that old save file because I’d love to finish it, not sure if I wanna replay the whole game because like you say, there’s a lot of back tracking in order to heal/save and the unskippable battle animations are probably gonna make it less tolerable as an adult

[@ntmaproductions]

@@Weewoo12 yeah it's not exactly a snappy game

[@jamulcah1317]

Thanks for the video, love this game so much! But totally agree that it and it's sequel are deeply flawed games. I'm hoping one day someone makes a fan game or romhack doubles only game that just like this game has a limited roster of pokemon so I can get the feel of this game without having to put up with tyranitars sand stream animations 😅

[@ntmaproductions]

@@jamulcah1317 I really love that Tyranitar is the best Pokemon game and adds 6 minutes to every battle via sandstorm damage animations 🤣😭

[@BioIngDavid]

Love this pokemon videos

[@325Yasir]

Waiting for the XD vid now🙏

[@ntmaproductions]

@@325Yasir 😭😭 I might

[@maroonstarsface]

​@@ntmaproductionsdo yourself a favour skip XD and pickup the xg next gen ROM hack of it. Better in ever way

[@GrantTheHierophant]

I forgot her name after seeing "Michael" for 40 hours.

[@kma4835]

Up until this video I didn't put 2 and 2 together for Miror B. Mirror Ball ofc...his head is shaped like one lol also the lore reason Ho-oh came to blow up the helicopter is symbolically Ho-oh only appears to those pure of heart think back to Ash first seeing him it in the anime aka showing itself to Wes basically saying "good work, I see you and i got you fam fk that guy tho" 💥

[@ntmaproductions]

@@kma4835 Lmao Ho-Oh is a good guy

[@kma4835]

@ntmaproductions A total C H A D for sure lol great video subbed 👍

[@jimbostunna]

god is good

[@ntmaproductions]

@@jimbostunna amen brother

[@vktrlndwll95]

Great video! Should have talked more about the music. Why didn't you talk about the music for 1 hour instead!? Also, I wouldn't mind an XD retrospective!

[@ntmaproductions]

@@vktrlndwll95 I know almost 0 about music 😅 I can say damn this cool but I don't know how or why

[@pikpikyn]

cool cool, watched it all, brought back memories, i bought a gamecube bundle with colosseum included so i spammed it for weeks if not months now do XD Gale of Darkness and of course Pokemon Channel cause it would be hilarious with your voice and personality for such a silly game 😂

[@ntmaproductions]

@@pikpikyn I'm frankly not even sure what I could say about Channel 🤣 it is definitely the weirdest "game" I've ever played, but I do love Pokemon Pinball Petite

[@Obileo346]

I love this game, but have to admit that being gen 2 centered means that there aren't really any good pokemon. What I think would've been more interesting would be keeping the highly limited roster, but make the pokemon u can get be the higher tier pokemon from all three for just one example, have the guys that block u from leaving Peanac for the first time give one starter from each gen instead of one of the gen 2 starters. Maybe they could even have all three starters of their element and all three are shadow. You can fight all three enemies and upon snaging any one pokemon from them will cause them to retreat and you have a chance to get the other starters later. Some might argue that having access to the better pokemon will make the game too easy, but it would be if they balanced it around these pokemon from the start. Also. As for a story reason to have only the higher teir pokemon, the enemies want to control the strongest pokemon possible, evidenced by the legendary beasts being available to snag. Why would they waste their time controlling weak pokemon. Maybe there would be a few lower tier early on into the game like they tested on weak pokemon first, then started targeting the strong ones when they perfected their methods.

[@ntmaproductions]

@@Obileo346 I think it kinda defeats the purpose tbh, scrambling to make a team of odds and ends is kinda the conceit. If you give someone a Charizard and a Gyarados they're not going to engage with the doubles stuff at all or think about their team building

[@Obileo346]

@ntmaproductions true. I don't know gen 2, unfortunately, got the short end of the pokemon design stick. As much as I enjoy the game I always found myself using Espeon, Umbreon and Bayleef almost exclusively cause I didn't feel like any of the other pokemon really pulled their weight on the team. Then again it has been a while since I played it and my memory could be off.

[@ntmaproductions]

@@Obileo346 You're not exactly wrong, Gen 2 gets a lot of big ol ???s for monster design. You got Typhlosion copying Charizards stats 1:1, monstrously bad stuff like Ledian, Furret, bizarre stuff that just doesn't do anything like Girafarig, but I do think Colo tries its best to give the little wrirdos some cool doubles stuff

[@Obileo346]

@ntmaproductions It may be time for me to give the game another run. Assuming I can pull myself away from the 6 bg3 runs I gave going rn. Last time I played it I was still in high-school at least 10 years ago.

[@ntmaproductions]

@@Obileo346 lmao yeah BG3 gonna do that to ya. lemme know how it goes if ya return to it

[@silverscreen4522]

I assume you're going to do XD? I love these videos even though I know everything about these games lol

[@ntmaproductions]

@@silverscreen4522 Only time will tell.... but yes.

[@brandog6981]

it doesnt affect misdreavious

[@jacob_swaggerz]

Pokemon snap next!

[@ntmaproductions]

We did snap it’s in the pokemon playlist on our channel ;)

[@janistransbian]

it's 1 of the 2 best pokemon games of all time. only game of pokemon that has a chance of competing with this is pokemon xd:gale of darkness and that's it. the rest are nowhere near as good.

[@AAAYOUxD711]

The Biden joke lol

[@Magikarpador]

Mire B

[@ntmaproductions]

@@Magikarpador he do be

[@Nagatem]

Bro, Nascour ain’t sephiroth he’s adult Riku if he still had ansem with him like his own personal venom, also the pre gym leader justy is clearly a male

[@ntmaproductions]

@@Nagatem That's true, he even got the skirt like Riku. I'm not sure why I thought Justy was female, I may have been remembering the cooltrainer he keeps around, but Justy ain't exactly a name ass name so it can be hard to remember who's who when everyone is named Burbles and Mopuga

[@MercurySmith-]

I had to exit this video the moment you mispronounced the word “mirror” because how tf do you butcher that 🤣

[@ntmaproductions]

@@MercurySmith- Miror B. That's not mirror. You're reading it wrong my friend 🤠 while it is definitely a play on Mirror Ball, he is in fact not a mirror