Pokémon Gold Star - Failed Cards & Mechanics

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3 ай бұрын

In the history of the Pokemon TCG, there have been many mechanics that allow you to only play a single copy of a certain card in your deck. In recent years, cards like the Radiant Pokemon have been limited to only one Radiant card in your entire deck. Before that, ACE SPEC Item cards had the same restriction. Before all those, in 2005, the Gold Star Pokemon were released. Just like the Radiant Pokemon, you can only have a single Pokemon Gold Star in your deck. While Radiant Pokemon are a key part of the current Standard format, very few of the Gold Star Pokemon released over the 9 sets they were present in saw any level of competitive success. Today, we’re going to look at each cycle of Gold Star Pokemon, examine why so many of them failed to see competitive success, and see what made the good Gold Star Pokemon stand out above them.
Script by ThePigThatCriedRii
Edited by Kevin
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@dogf421
@dogf421 3 ай бұрын
alakazam star is a terror in the weird format ive been playing with my mom for the past 10 years
@PlayerTwoHasJoined
@PlayerTwoHasJoined 3 ай бұрын
Tord did well recently with a list that played Alakazam star!
@christophercagley
@christophercagley 3 ай бұрын
Just wanna say that I LOVE how many TCG channels that Logs has and maintains weekly, absolute legend!
@akiradkcn
@akiradkcn 3 ай бұрын
Quantity over quality is not a good thing His videos are notoriously filled with errors precisely because of that
@iTunsiscool26
@iTunsiscool26 3 ай бұрын
@@akiradkcnDid I make a mistake in this video? I didn't notice one
@vDeadbolt
@vDeadbolt 3 ай бұрын
He has script writers, even for the Yu-Gi-Oh channel, the card game he has experience in
@christophercagley
@christophercagley 3 ай бұрын
@@iTunsiscool26 don’t let the sour people fool you, you guys do a great job. Cheers! 🍻
@enjoyerofcake2123
@enjoyerofcake2123 3 ай бұрын
@@iTunsiscool26 17:30 Charizard mills the opponent instead of the player. Mispronounces "Mimicry" at 17:42. Gets it right at 18:00 though. Some of his videos are worse than others though.
@altermann1991
@altermann1991 3 ай бұрын
Ok, but why is Mudkip the only one here that isn't shiny? Like it has a slight purple hue, but shiny mudkip are normally a bright pink...
@Snowthree
@Snowthree 3 ай бұрын
I'm completely baffled. They seriously thought these things would be SO OP that they had to be limited to one per deck? They could have been unlimited and most wouldn't have been OP. Seriously, they're so weak or situational I can't imagine how people thought they would need such a limit.
@thisisme-iy9rh
@thisisme-iy9rh 3 ай бұрын
The real reason is likely due to lore reasons. Shiny Pokémon in the games are very rare and they likely wanted to emulate that in the tcg
@waifucards
@waifucards 3 ай бұрын
At least the Gold stars are some of the most collectible cards that have ever been printed, especially nowadays. So they have one good thing going on about them, together with the Rayquaza / latia block
@MarioMastar
@MarioMastar 2 ай бұрын
The card art looks really amazing. they're at least worth looking at and that's part of the fun of the card games for those who don't wish to play but just like the chance at seeing some really cool artwork.
@munchrai6396
@munchrai6396 3 ай бұрын
NGL, Entei Gold Star sounds pretty insane. Self milling ten cards in a more modern format would be insane, especially with how many decks use things like Battle Compressor in Expanded
@RednekGamurz
@RednekGamurz 3 ай бұрын
You're discarding 10 cards off of YOUR deck, not your opponent's. In that format, if you did 70 damage & mill 10 cards off of your opponent's deck (especially when you're already at an advantage), that card would be busted.
@rithium7646
@rithium7646 3 ай бұрын
but you're discarding cards from your deck?
@munchrai6396
@munchrai6396 3 ай бұрын
@@RednekGamurz Yeah, I'm comparing it to Battle compressor man. Self Mill on that large of a scale could be super impactful for discard energy acceleration or setting up things like VS Seeker or V-Unions. Not even mentioning if we get more cards like Lost Thunder Giratina and Ho-Oh EX that entirely rely on the discard pile. A card like this would do so much work if it was in a more favorable format
@RednekGamurz
@RednekGamurz 3 ай бұрын
@@munchrai6396 Ah I see what you mean now. My mistake.
@emmetstanevich2121
@emmetstanevich2121 3 ай бұрын
@@munchrai6396 Isn't the main strength of battle compressor the fact that you choose the cards you mill? Even if you're running a discard strategy, there's probably still some cards that you really don't want to accidentally mill.
@EvilApple567
@EvilApple567 3 ай бұрын
Something worth noting is that the introductory set for gold stars, EX Team Rocket Returns, also introduced one of the most powerful disruptive supporters ever printed in Rocket's Admin, which shuffles both players' hands into their decks and they draw a card for each remaining prizes. I didn't play during this era, but I started in gen 5 and when Rocket's Admin was reprinted as "N" there was absolutely no denying its ability to brutally stall, if not outright shutdown your opponent (and that format was much faster and hard hitting in comparison). The reason this is relevant is that it could've made the comeback components of many of the lesser gold stars much more potent if your opponent got hit with a Rocket's Admin at 1 or 2 prizes and you could continuously bludgeon them with cards like Groudon (or Regirock/Ice if you planned far enough ahead or got enough scoop up heads) while they fumbled to regain their footing.
@KingChiggy
@KingChiggy 3 ай бұрын
It's always weird to me thinking that a pokemon with an ability to do 10 damage is considered amazing. When I got back into the TCG when Sword and Shield started I saw everyone running Galarian Zigzagoon because it did 10 damage to a pokemon when you put it on the bench and I thought "HP values are so high, how is that going to be useful?" lol
@jerryb216
@jerryb216 2 ай бұрын
I haven't played much but isn't it good just because most attacks leave pokemon with 10-30 hp leftover most of the time?
@alex_zetsu
@alex_zetsu 3 ай бұрын
21:27 And this is why I am glad Yu Gi Oh constantly releases old cards.
@ktvx.94
@ktvx.94 3 ай бұрын
This makes me think there's potentially material for a top 10 list of cards printed in the wrong format, where their traits would've dominated past or future formats but were useless in their own. Obviously not counting big number power creep.
@MarioMastar
@MarioMastar 2 ай бұрын
One of the cool things about an ever evolving meta is that sometimes that does happen. Even the regular Pokemon has seen unusual shifts in old generation formats because new players were willing to experiment with overlooked pokemon and found genuine success with them, and it's not just a matter of the new generations mechanics, but rather people taking a second harder look at the old generation and realizing that there was a move/stat combination that happened to perfectly counter the meta on a pokemon that was otherwise easily countered by most other threats. Sometimes it just takes a bit of creativity, or a reminder that these cards even exist. Though powercreep often puts a hard lid on some of these cards if the only thing they offer is power. It was smart of Yugioh to establish that 3000 attack was the highest attack you could get from a normal monster and make monsters either weaker than that but have a positive effect, or stronger but require resources more challenging than mill + monster reborn or stronger but have a negative effect, so in theory, a blue eyes white dragon could always beat most monsters in battle, assuming some other effect didn't destroy it before it got the chance. (Yugioh seems to have the opposite problem Pokemon TCG has, as battle damage isn't really something people worry about when it used to be so fundamental to the game and the reason why powerful monster removal spells and traps were common)
@shandog7
@shandog7 3 ай бұрын
I feel like Gold Star cards were more like a flex than anything as its a shiny pokemon
@bettyunicorn6132
@bettyunicorn6132 3 ай бұрын
They are really pretty.
@Wearebackhereagain
@Wearebackhereagain 3 ай бұрын
Ngl I want your take on the delta species cards I have even have few of the gold star cards myself
@wpmer
@wpmer 3 ай бұрын
Rayquaza star won me state championships back in the day.
@davecoleman1903
@davecoleman1903 Ай бұрын
Same, Drew 12 prizes against mewtrik. Was so satisfying
@lepapanouwel4663
@lepapanouwel4663 3 ай бұрын
I remember my cousin having a Pikachu star and giving his collection to me, that was the easiest 300 bucks I ever made lol
@turtledov_
@turtledov_ 3 ай бұрын
Man, those torchic, treecko, and mudkip cards are so pretty!
@yeezyoreo9900
@yeezyoreo9900 3 ай бұрын
How about a video about the mega evolution mechanic and how they fared? It seems there's so many yet only a few apparently got actually used
@javierlatorre1792
@javierlatorre1792 3 ай бұрын
Like the actual megaevolution
@itta1intmyt_aSSSt9e
@itta1intmyt_aSSSt9e 3 ай бұрын
i thought that was a April 1st gig but this guy really slaps
@jaydenholzhueter6344
@jaydenholzhueter6344 3 ай бұрын
I had mew gold star as a kid my all time favorite card for the art
@GiacomoZonco
@GiacomoZonco 3 ай бұрын
I have a Kyogre that I am avidly keeping It’s not perfect, but luckily kid me never used it so it’s still in great state!
@jackking1900
@jackking1900 2 ай бұрын
*My brain a second after hearing your voice* Hey wait a second- *checks channel name* *recognizes video title format* So it’s more than just Dueling
@screamordie1000
@screamordie1000 3 ай бұрын
I cant forget that voice. Is this the Duellogs guy???
@iTunsiscool26
@iTunsiscool26 3 ай бұрын
Yes. Hirumaredx
@brody6334
@brody6334 2 ай бұрын
I still have a gold star registeel. Amazing card.
@EmphasisOnJ
@EmphasisOnJ 2 ай бұрын
6:44 I remember thinking that they were smoking crack making meganium weak to grass and fire
@justaadhdgamerwesley6244
@justaadhdgamerwesley6244 3 ай бұрын
They do look nice :)
@clintmcbride7830
@clintmcbride7830 3 ай бұрын
As a collector and not a player this is the most important part 😁
@Y-all-mofos-need-Talos
@Y-all-mofos-need-Talos 3 ай бұрын
And they are very expensive today. Lucky for the people that kept their cards in good condition or just collect them because they was gold. Rayquaza star prices are insane.
@lkjkhfggd
@lkjkhfggd 3 ай бұрын
I'm not understanding why people were running Jolteon over the Flareon when the burn deals 2 damage vs Jolteon doing just 1. You could even switch your active out right away to remove the burn from your side.
@kingwailord4143
@kingwailord4143 2 ай бұрын
Burn worked differently in generation 3 thats why. At the time burn did 20 damage but it was on a coin flip each turn; if you flipped heads you took 0 damage and if you flipped tails you took 20 (burn also persisted inbetween turns until you switched your active). So if you consider averages flareon does the same damage as jolteon, but at the cost of a coin flip it was better to use the more consistent card that always did 10 damage.
@DragonWaffleX
@DragonWaffleX 3 ай бұрын
I always wanted a Kyogre ⭐ but that shit's expensive
@creatingvideostobreakmyspe6049
@creatingvideostobreakmyspe6049 3 ай бұрын
Its cheap for a gold star lol
@ShinyUmbreonz
@ShinyUmbreonz Ай бұрын
Stil in my opinion the best version of shiny Pokémon the tcg has done and my favourite type of card overall
@renegaderonin1247
@renegaderonin1247 2 ай бұрын
These are not failed mechanics more so a few of the cards are really lackluster despite the amazing artwork
@armorbearer9702
@armorbearer9702 3 ай бұрын
I am surprised that Latios and Latias star made the list. I figured having an attack that cause three different energy cards would be a huge detriment.
@F1ghtGam3r
@F1ghtGam3r 3 ай бұрын
Top 10 competitive promo cards
@advente_
@advente_ 3 ай бұрын
I almost lost to registeel gold star playing rayler a few days ago lmao
@soma467
@soma467 3 ай бұрын
All out Blast was kind of Berseker Soul
@chaosryans
@chaosryans 3 ай бұрын
I never played pokemon cards, but i thought shiny cards were similar to the non-shiny cards and you could just find random shiny prints of every pokemon in a set.
@helloNotato
@helloNotato 3 ай бұрын
You can now! A lot of cards have much fancier alternate arts, some actually featuring the same art but with the mons shiny palette instead. They function identically otherwise
@jakezepeda1267
@jakezepeda1267 3 ай бұрын
Song? 👀
@jeffersonb2379
@jeffersonb2379 3 ай бұрын
I have both Kyoger and Mew gold star cards. Theyre worth alot right now too.
@fifnaf7290
@fifnaf7290 3 ай бұрын
I have a pokemon world tournament mew gold star, and even that card is worth hundreds of $
@rbikidportland
@rbikidportland 3 ай бұрын
i sold mine like a dummy for way too cheap
@jackkingsman2758
@jackkingsman2758 2 ай бұрын
Can you really call it a failed mechanic if they brought it back (be it in a variation) with the prism star cards?
@Tvboy777
@Tvboy777 3 ай бұрын
Your channel would get much better with more GLC content.
@fifnaf7290
@fifnaf7290 3 ай бұрын
Can't you evolve the gold star starter trio? surely a basic with more hp would be viable enough to replace a copy of a common basic
@nmr7203
@nmr7203 3 ай бұрын
I don't think you can, the Star is a part of their name I believe.
@olhooucofalo4743
@olhooucofalo4743 3 ай бұрын
I have an Umbreon Gold Star. How much is it worth nowadays? Its a little bit damaged tho, since I got it as a kid
@Kaleidophoenix
@Kaleidophoenix 3 ай бұрын
Depending on the damage, you could probably sell an Umbreon Star for about $1000. Maybe more, depending on who you sold it to. Mint copies go closer to $4000-5000
@olhooucofalo4743
@olhooucofalo4743 3 ай бұрын
@@Kaleidophoenixnoice
@jole5468
@jole5468 2 ай бұрын
fuck i wish i knew the price of that umbreon when i had it -.- i think my mom gave it away when she gave my cards away after i moved out
@cryogenical_
@cryogenical_ 3 ай бұрын
Gold stars go hand in hand with crystal pokémon in showing Nintendo's growing pains in developing the TCG themselves.
@Tsuk4
@Tsuk4 3 ай бұрын
No mention of Greninja gold star? From celebrations bundle
@HeyElKappa
@HeyElKappa 3 ай бұрын
why would a card that was never legal to play be included in the video?
@barriertrio4456
@barriertrio4456 3 ай бұрын
mimic cry
@NovoxPrayer
@NovoxPrayer 3 ай бұрын
Always called them shiny cause they are
@UnleashedRex1
@UnleashedRex1 2 ай бұрын
You read that Charazard wrong. Discard energy from the card and discard the top 3 cards of the "opponent's" deck. Not your deck.
@CharlieGolf89
@CharlieGolf89 2 ай бұрын
It bothers me that no one can say mimicry correctly. Its “mimic-ree” not “mimic-rye”
@psyky
@psyky 3 ай бұрын
Omg.... its u
@creatingvideostobreakmyspe6049
@creatingvideostobreakmyspe6049 3 ай бұрын
"Failed mechanics" >Literally the rarest and most sought after cards in the TCG by collectors...
@williamkeiser7562
@williamkeiser7562 3 ай бұрын
One thing I found out about the Pokemon TCG, rarity dictates the price for a lot of these cards and not playability. Base set Charizard is unplayable in its own format, yet it's the most expensive. Gen 3 Pokemon TCG is when I played the most before dropping it entirely. Pokemon star werent something you were actually wanting to add to your deck.
@boxkid759
@boxkid759 3 ай бұрын
No one cares about collecters. This is about the game.
@Hachiko96
@Hachiko96 3 ай бұрын
​@williamkeiser7562 base set charizard isn't rarer then other holo It's just seen as more desirable
@creatingvideostobreakmyspe6049
@creatingvideostobreakmyspe6049 3 ай бұрын
Factually incorrect. Many cards are desirable, such as alt arts versus trainer gallery, but, the more scarce a card is, the more expensive itll be. Its a mix of desirablity and scarcity. For older cards, think rarity more than scarcity too, not just pull rates, but how many NM copies exist.@@Hachiko96
@charganium6734
@charganium6734 2 ай бұрын
@@boxkid759Lots of these cards were playable though.
@arcuscotangens
@arcuscotangens 3 ай бұрын
Hey guys, did you know that in terms of gold star Pokemon cards ....
@inoobtacular501
@inoobtacular501 2 ай бұрын
Wait. This. isn't yugioh
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