Pokémon Heart Gold, but I STEAL each Gym leaders Pokémon!

[@Niall_Sene]

I think it's interesting that almost every Gym leader in Johto is structured to be strong against the next one, Falkner has the advantage on Bugsy, Chuck has the advantage on Jasmine, Pryce has it on Clair, and so on. Even the Elite 4 almost follows this as Will beats Koga, then Bruno beats Karen. This was a pretty fun idea Joe!

[@NuzlockeJoe]

Yeah I started with Johto because it seemed the most doable. Especially when compared to Gen 3 and 4 regions

[@ironmuro]

You know, it is a crazy realization that every Johto leader except Bugsy has a type advantage of some kind. Whitney having immunity to ghosts and the rest having super effective stab on the following leader.

[@NuzlockeJoe]

Yeah it’s an interesting relation I didn’t realize till I started planning this specific run

[@AscendedXSaiyan]

​@@NuzlockeJoeI just realized the same 😂

[@Oscar92839]

Morty on chuck?

[@ironmuro]

@@Oscar92839 Ghost is immune to Fighting. Its another immunity, still a type advantage but I misspoke in saying the rest were stab.

[@omegaderose4342]

@@NuzlockeJoe CYNDAQUIL IS BEST STARTER

[@Krynoface]

such a good concept of a mod! it's so unique!! normally someone would play as one specific character, but you are playing as 8 characters!

[@NuzlockeJoe]

Well actually, more like 16

[@kronos13blackcat]

@@NuzlockeJoe 17 if you count Trainer with Cyndaquil and Gastly

[@fenixrises9854]

23 including the elite four and Lance and the fact that you had to use a couple Pokémon for the first gym

[@Krynoface]

@@NuzlockeJoe i suck at counting

[@NECROcade]

this should be a series, but for future generations maybe have it follow a set of rules, the 1st attempt is their exact team, the 2nd is the exact pokemon but leveled to match the caps, then if that cant win your able to change moves items etc

[@NuzlockeJoe]

Yeah maybe. I didn’t have too many consecutive losses, or I would have had to change the rules to make it more doable

[@mazharsiddiqi7288]

Fun idea and video Was poetic that would get to end this using Blue's team to beat Red

[@NuzlockeJoe]

Yeah it was certainly a solid ending.

[@hazeleyedpixie664]

I just started watching a bunch of nuzlocke videos. I have to say you and flygon are by far my favorites. You’re great at narrating and while I enjoy the gameplay that’s what keeps my attention. Love your vids

[@NuzlockeJoe]

That means a lot to be put in with flygon. He’s actually the reason my channel exists. A few years ago I came across his channel and after binging so many videos, I decided to try it too. I had never done a nuzlocke before, but now it’s like all I do!

[@fatalammonium1354]

22:33 Chloroform?! That’s a deeply concerning Pokémon ability.

[@NuzlockeJoe]

I mean there are two ways to outspeed. Either be faster, or use chloroform on your opponents. They both work

[@CreamyPesto505]

If we're being real, sleep powder can just be renamed. ​@@NuzlockeJoe

[@fatalammonium1354]

@@NuzlockeJoe you aren’t wrong, not hard to outrun the unconscious.

[@skynyrdjesus]

I'm shocked Mr Mime has never had it. He seems the type

[@kronos13blackcat]

Well Square Up because Chikorita is obviously the best Johto starter

[@NuzlockeJoe]

Alright bring it!

[@manjusahoo4956]

Your living in a dream world.

[@kronos13blackcat]

@@manjusahoo4956 chikorita is the cutest and is only considered bad due to the gyms it has to go against put it in Kanto and it would obviously be a better pick then Totodile or Cyndaquil, guess because Charmander struggles against Brock and Misty that makes Charmander a bad starter

[@alessandronapolitano8620]

​@@kronos13blackcat its movepool also sucks

[@rb4734]

Yeah! My man Joe is back!

[@gregoryscott4352]

Fax they can fight on that to 0:33

[@elise6894]

This was really cool! You should do this for some other generations too! Maybe gen 6 since the gym leaders were jokes?

[@lostone9700]

Def totodile is best after the split.

[@NuzlockeJoe]

I mean he’s better after the split, but typhlosion is so cool!

[@BoldAndBrash]

Great channel. I don't even like Pokemon that much and I get super invested in every challenge you do

[@NuzlockeJoe]

Thanks, that means a lot!

[@Nick_Slavik]

Oh!!! This is a clever challenge! And I love that you're named Duplica! 😃👍

[@Gameboy_Graci]

A very fun idea! I hope you do more of these for the other games. Won't be as time consuming in most of them either haha.

[@ludovicoernike7550]

Very nice idea! Also great taste in the starter selection 🦔

[@NuzlockeJoe]

I’m glad you agree. That means we don’t have to fight

[@pedroribeirodesousa9152]

I wonder how kanto games will be since most gym leaders are weak to the next

[@NuzlockeJoe]

Yeah, I would never even get past Misty like this.

[@sabath15]

You should do this challenge again but only keep the ace pokemon. For example you keep pidgetto and when you face bugsy you keep scyther. And when you face Whitney you can use both pigetto and scyther and once you have more than 6 members you can swap through them for the next gym

[@Blackfrost_x]

I dont know if someone already commented this, but Whitney would have been way easier if you matched the genders of Buggsys team.your screenshot of his team shows only female mons :0

[@NuzlockeJoe]

Yeah that was pointed out already. I didn’t think about gender, but after the Whitney battle I started to for the most part

[@Magikarpador]

man. kinda wanna try this in rejuvenation

[@NuzlockeJoe]

Rejuvenation? Is that a hack?

[@Magikarpador]

@@NuzlockeJoe Fan game, and best pokemon game ive played.

[@panagiotisarampatzis1163]

Just finished silver with monotype normal types. That tauros was SICK

[@Keiji555]

You missed a "Goose is cooked" joke after Falkner.

[@alexisdipoalo9443]

i actually been wanting to do something like this, but i need to switch my team to whoever i beat last

[@NuzlockeJoe]

That would be even more work lol

[@thaelrynvecna2953]

I think this has series potential! Though you may have to relax the "Hardcore" rules a but and potentially over level if you have severe disadvantages...but it looks really fun!

[@NuzlockeJoe]

Thanks! I might do another one here, but it wasn't as well received as I had hoped tbh.

[@CallMeNoa]

Really interesting idea!

[@NuzlockeJoe]

Thanks!

[@antonaghful]

Got nothing to add. Great video, creative concept, comment for algorithm

[@NuzlockeJoe]

Thanks! I think I turned out well

[@derAlphabet]

Almost anytime you are at a type advantage in these battles

[@pokemoncavern8052]

Blame the game not the player (I’m not saying you are)

[@NuzlockeJoe]

To be fair, I chose Johto because it’s one of the only first few regions where I was confident the first gym leader had a chance against the second.

[@derAlphabet]

@@NuzlockeJoe I was just surprised about this. Wonder, how common it is, that consecutive gyms aren't neutral towards each other

[@youtube-kit9450]

@@derAlphabet Kanto: Rock < Water < Electric < Grass < Poison < Psychic = Fire < Ground This challenge would be absolutely abysmal cuz you're constantly on the backfoot Johto: Flying > Bug = Scrappy Miltank > Ghost > Fighting > Steel > Ice > Dragon Nearly the opposite Hoenn: Rock < Fighting = Electric = Fire = Normal = Flying = Psychic = Water Roxanne gets bodied by Brawly but otherwise mostly neutral matchups Sinnoh: Rock < Grass = Ghost > Fighting = Water = Steel > Ice = Electric Again, aside from Byron's advantage against Candice, it's mostly neutral with just Roark getting absolutely creamed by Gardenia BW: Monke = Normal = Bug = Electric < Ground < Flying < Ice > Dragon B2W2: Normal = Poison > Bug = Electric < Ground < Flying = Dragon > Water Unova would be rough Kalos: Bug < Rock < Fighting = Grass > Electric = Fairy = Psychic = Ice Kalos also is rather bad Sw: Grass > Water > Fire = Fighting < Fairy = Ice = Dark = Dragon Sh: Grass > Water > Fire = Ghost = Fairy = Ice = Dark = Dragon swsh ar emostly balanced, only Bea's team might have trouble with Opal's Paldea: Bug > Grass > Electric > Water = Normal = Ghost > Psychic = Ice Also quite an easy time

[@NuzlockeJoe]

When deciding which region to do this in, I looked at the first four which are the ones I know best. And out of those four, it seemed like only Johto could get off the ground.

[@Nick_Slavik]

I've never played HG/SS, does Scyther not have Fury Cutter in it?

[@dragonbeard8711]

Do the Kanto vs Johto gym battle, like Kanto 1st gym vs Johto 1st gym. And also add blue team vs Silver team rival battle base on your badge you have.✌️

[@NuzlockeJoe]

That would actually be really interesting! See which is the better region

[@jerryreed6024]

Don't toy speak that slander against my crocodile

[@BigBlack950]

This was good

[@BigBlack950]

Can we get a story about protagonist, Jimmy or Ethan what happened to him after legend of thunder

[@phayroent9742]

I actually did this in heartgold with the action replay.

[@NuzlockeJoe]

And here I thought I was being original! In soul silver I used my action replay to get a Darkeai at the very start, because he is awesome.

[@phayroent9742]

@@NuzlockeJoe I used the steal Pokemon code. But it only let you steal one Pokemon then ended the battle. So I would fight them until the Mon I wanted came out, then steal it. In the postgame rematches I used the repeat battle code and battled the gym leaders repeatedly until I caught the entire team's of all 16 gym leaders!

[@Jess-Cruz]

Hitmonlee did not have blaze kick in the remakes of gen 2 hes my fav fighting type I should know considering he doesn't learn that move whatsoever from lvling it meens u used a tm on em

[@NuzlockeJoe]

He may not learn it, but I just used PKHex to copy the moves that Kogas hitmonlee had.

[@Jess-Cruz]

@@NuzlockeJoe u meen bruno?

[@Jess-Cruz]

@@NuzlockeJoe Koga is the ninja guy with poison types

[@NuzlockeJoe]

Yeah Bruno. Just hitmoblee had blaze kick so I gave mine it too

[@Jess-Cruz]

@@NuzlockeJoe maybe I'm thinking of original gen 2

[@Nick_Slavik]

How is stomp able to hit ghosts? Isn't stomp a normal move? And aren't normal moves ineffective against ghosts? 🤔 Also, comments are good for the KZbin algorithm

[@Nick_Slavik]

Nevermind haha I just needed to pay better attention lol

[@NuzlockeJoe]

No problem, thanks for the algorithm boost!

[@Nick_Slavik]

@@NuzlockeJoe this was a neat nuzlocke! After I'm finished with my current challenge run I plan on playing Silver as Schoolboy Nate (Ledian and Exeggutor only). Sounds very manageable on paper.....I feel like it may actually be a nightmare haha

[@xellotath863]

don't messpeon with espeon

[@Veryfreshveryflourish24]

Honestly this lowkey is interesting idea since johto gym leaders are giga ass. Like 8 gym leaders and overall 4 johtonian pokemon. Kanto has like the double the johto rep

[@NuzlockeJoe]

Seriously, Its a sad state of affairs

[@Veryfreshveryflourish24]

@@NuzlockeJoe like so true besties. Like falkner could have had hoothoot or skarmory(if you wanted to retain level 9 raid boss), bugsy could have had spinarak and ledyba over cocoon, morty could have had misdreavus, chuck could have had heracross or hitmontop and so on...

[@Briantastic92]

I will fight you on that 🐊

[@Oscar92839]

10:22 34 steelix?

[@williambrown5934]

10:40 ??! A delibird? That ice type who only has ‘present’ as a move that has a chance of either healing your foe or doing damage, that if I remember right is normal type..? Yeah, it’d just make his gym easier to beat.. And even though it’s a ice gym, doesn’t mean the leader should actually have all ice types, as unlike the show, in these games, their Pokémon don’t easily beat type advantage and a gym needs that not type themed surprise to help keep one on their toes some. Plus, it’s a non ice type but an early form of dewgong, an actual ice type so… It’s not a completely random basic water type. They need more games where the gym leader has that one special, not so gym type themed mon; and at least seem like they are trying to dodge a player managing to get an easy gym sweep with the right Pokémon lol… Sneasel, less it has Ice Punch via egg move or teaching… It ain’t no big ice threat… Next to no special Atk and only learned physical ice move a priority Ice Shard… Plus sneasel is already insanely fast so, the priority changes lil imo, but a weak move… So it’d be *if you ask me* a super weak addition.

[@NuzlockeJoe]

Sure Delibird only learns present naturally, but there are plenty of TMs he can use. And I get having a Pokémon whole isn’t necessarily the type of the gym leader, but IMO that only works if it’s not the base form of a pokemon they already have. Having a seal and dewgong seems stupid to me

[@findtheblue]

I think it's really funny that people complain that Johto pokemon suck, the Johto gym leaders suck, but then say the way to fix the gym leaders is to give them the shitty Johto pokemon. Seel in theory is great for Pryce because it being a water type would surprise and mess with people leading with fire/rock types to beat ice types. Seel sucks and is too weak to actually do that but it's still better than Delibird or Sneasel which are both gonna die instantly to quilava flame wheel or graveler rock throw

[@williambrown5934]

@@NuzlockeJoe I’m sorry, I mean no disrespect or criticism… I am just sharing *my own opinion* on your in video comment. Gym leader’s often only have just one tm move their Pkmn might be taught and I don’t recall if he had a tm he put on all his team members… If not, it’d only have present… Plus they’d have to be one Delibird CAN learn and be it’s only move, as Present would be imo a bad move to leave on it, with the rng of healing and helping the player… We don’t need the AI doing anything to help & make the battle easier with odds EVER… If you ask me. I just am sharing a thought; sorry if it upset you… We all have thoughts I am sure on how a gym battle could be better in some way but also… We all may have the thought that it’s fine as is… Also, I am sure they make certain choices for certain reasons… Maybe one day a Pokémon game will have a difficultly setting for a run that alters move set ups and/ or Pokemon of gym leaders and such… Though probably won’t happen but… would be a interesting choice for a game direction that hav never tried..

[@williambrown5934]

@@findtheblue I just wish in Scarlet/ Violet, that I didn’t feel like I am the only one who thinks it’s annoying that those gym leaders aren’t programmed with some smarts… You have a fire type like Fuecoco as he sends out his Sudowodo and instead of the npc keeping it as is with the type advantage, he still immediately turns his rock into a easily crushed by a fire type, grass mon.. 🫣😖 They just have gym leaders in it throw battles by not utilizing advantage of initial type advantage of Ace Pokemon in certain situations… THAT is annoying… Seel being a basic water imo helps and lol is typical of gym leaders… (For example:) Back in Kanto with Misty with her Staryu & Starmi… that I think people might forget about- as Misty I suspect might be forgettable, less you do challenge runs of it- or like me, watch a lot of challenge runs (KZbinr: JRose11 content lol)

[@MarcosSilva-hn4ix]

Liked an subscribed only cuz you are a cyndaquill enjoyer (still early on vid. Ill be back later on)

[@DLC88]

Time and place Joe. Totdile better

[@RainizLove]

The Scyther should have been female going into the 3rd gym! the attract got you the first time.

[@NuzlockeJoe]

Yeah, there were a number of genders I messed up, it just so happened that scyther was one of the few important ones

[@jayr9801]

U should do a bruno run

[@coolknight2622]

It's not just stealing Pokemon but also stealing the gym leader's identity making you an skin stealer

[@NuzlockeJoe]

That just sounds soo much worse though...

[@PsychicJaylen]

Busy has a female Scyther, did you not see the gender next to the pokemon's name?

[@NuzlockeJoe]

I mean, I didn’t really pay attention to genders until I got to Whitney and realized I should have.

[@jesperadolfsson493]

I wonder... Is it possible to start with a level 100 pokemon and still win? It won't obey for quite some time. Just pick the worst pokemon in existence

[@NuzlockeJoe]

Yeah I imagine it would be. Even if they only obey once every few turns, you’d take basically no damage

[@jesperadolfsson493]

Yeah true 🤔 maybe a twist on it... I will think a bit more on it and come back to you!

[@Hijiri_MIRACHION]

It'd need to have a different ID number for that to work, so you'd essentially have a Level 100 "traded" Pokémon for the entire game.

[@TheErikalovey]

Mega Trainer

[@joshuafoote5144]

Their teams seem decent to me.

[@NuzlockeJoe]

My main issue is the surprising lack of Johto Pokémon for the Johto leaders. Only half of the Johto leaders even have a Johto Pokemon, and the ones that do have a single one. Could have been a great opportunity to introduce newer pokemon. Even a hoothoot against falker would be OK

[@joshuafoote5144]

@@NuzlockeJoe That would be a good idea.

[@joshuafoote5144]

@@NuzlockeJoe to be fair they fixed that in Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire. There’s only one gym leader who doesn’t have a Hoenn Pokemon.

[@gavtheboss34829]

Wait how did miltank use stomp on gastly? 6:40

[@NuzlockeJoe]

That miltank had scrappy, the ability that lets normal and fighting move hit ghosts. It was mighty convenient actually.

[@gavtheboss34829]

@@NuzlockeJoe yeah I asked that question but then literally found out the answer like 2 seconds later 😭

[@gavtheboss34829]

In the video

[@brunomesquita9721]

Awesome

[@MrMitchbow]

Do this in R/B/Y/FR/LG lol

[@NuzlockeJoe]

In kanto it would be a very fast run. I’d never get past Misty

[@dylanjwicklund92]

28:54 I traded off a bunch of first- generation Exodia I had three sets and just miscellaneous pieces I had many jurors agreed I had so many cards are worth so much and it went down when the prices were really good and what not and the guys like yeah I'll give you 20 bucks for the whole set of Exodia just one set of and I was thinking I was like I can't get away whenever play music will go do it then fucking I go to beat up at the other store and I get over $3,000 I was like I told you you were trying to rip me off

[@LCR_2023]

Not using items in battle would mean no held items. Although I like the video concept. That's a hang up for me.

[@aivylotus4583]

No, it does not. That's a pretty standard rule that means not using the bag in battle, so no healing potions, status heals, and no X-items.

[@GrandpaMaxGaming]

Literally never seen anybody not use held items when following that rule

[@samrushin2476]

I look forward to your videos where you play these games using no hold items :)

[@DrewatDrake]

This is hardly a challenge. 6 of 7 have a type advantage over the next gym leader.

[@DalPrince14]

But it’s cool 😎

[@NuzlockeJoe]

I mean, you’re right about the type advantages, but beating Clair as Pryce is no simple feat. Though that is the reason I chose Johto over say kanto or Hoenn. Mainly because the second gun would be incredibly difficult.

[@anthonynaorem5149]

First ❤

[@JahnConstantino]

Grow up!

[@CreepyJournals]

I will fight you on the best Gen 2 starter because it’s definitely Totodile 🥲

[@NuzlockeJoe]

How dare come to my channel and voice such an opinion!