Pokémon Scarlet / Violet - AI Sada / AI Turo Battle Theme (B2W2 Remix)

(Unedited) Sada/Turo Sprites by Kyledove:
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[@LovelySoftSnow]

This is getting out of hand. Now there are two of them

[@Antroz0n]

"This is where the fun begins"

[@BurningFlamesofDivineDragon]

I see what you did there...

[@cameronspencer9619]

“We should not have made this bargain…”

[@Antroz0n]

@@cameronspencer9619 "I thought the battle would take place far from here, this is too close.."

[@dogefang420]

That would be interesting though if we ever ended up fighting both of them at once in a double battle

[@StarLucario102]

Imagine they made Jade version and the timeline difference is the professors never had a falling out. And now you have both ancient and futuristic pokemon flooding into the world, and you get the choice to team up with either another player (if only it would be allowed...) or Nemona, Penny, or Arven, each having their unique teams to make the difficulty different, it would be amazing to see how the battle would play out against two professors simultaneously, like the closest one would get to a tournament sequence battle, it would be terrifying to have to face both types of paradox mons

[@Axioanarchist]

Yes please!

[@zaelitude]

More doubles content in general would be nice.

[@FrNSICs]

i think the major paradox is whether the professors even existed at the same time. remember sada was one of naranja’s top students and turo was on of uva’s. it’s just hard to imagine both of them even deciding to pursue their goals in the same timeline

[@StarLucario102]

@@FrNSICs I'd speculate they'd have to do something like what they did in Emerald, establish one main academy and have a second one (probably in the DLC area) and then they both realize they have one thing in common, wanting a time machine, eventually they could both bring Koraidon and Miraidon, but when they realize they're genetically similar, they realize they ended up with the same pokemon but different time era, it'll require rewriting the story, similar to Emerald and Platinum's storylines

[@Blitzwaffen]

@@StarLucario102 Like emerald and the gangs it could still be a clash. Both become obsessed with their respective past and future. Yet both still want the world as a paradise for them and their son, but begin to drift and argue which choice is better for the world they want. If you want the darker route of them both being gone you could change the act of trying to save the pokemon from the aggressive version to them having a battle to decide it but realizing mid fight they aren't fully in control of the battle as both legendaries go berserk. With their AI counterparts taking over and planning to stop the time machine and both interacting more like a couple than the real pair did before their untimely demise. While teaming up with one AI it the other would be cool I would think it cool if you have to face both of them simultaneously as a double battle, right down to the legendary. And as far as the legendary goes, whichever you pick at the start of the game, the opposite goes to Arven. Cause as always, Arven needs better closure than they gave him in the base games.

[@BJGvideos]

The most tragic and gut-wrenching battle in all of Pokémon. After a whole game of being everyone's hero...we can't save the AI, the one person who begged us to help them.

[@BlackSoulStudioz]

Yeah, that honestly sucks

[@johndasalty111]

This is literally one of those weird pokestar studios battles but in an actual part of the main story. You fight a robot with a team of robots/dinosaurs

[@robertlupa8273]

Life imitates art.

[@jukeboxjimmy8722]

"He's an AI! She's an AI! I'M AN AI!! Are there any other AIs I should know about!?" Miraidon: "Beep" "...All right I'm outta here..."

[@morganuhl9992]

(rosa forget she is in a pokemon battle amd can't)

[@elirichmond8643]

Koraidon: meep~! :P

[@Blackhaze-gm1yj]

Arven: NO PLEASE COME BACK!!

[@kzzo6013]

If only we could get a new Full-fledged pokemon game with the same art/sound as gen5... i would be in paradise

[@shinysteve9965]

That‘s why I‘m genuinely worried for the Gen 5 remakes. Look how they massacred Gen 4 with BDSP

[@cosmo9925]

Check out these cool Pokemon games called “Pokemon Black & White” and “Pokemon Black 2 & White 2”. They all have that Gen 5 sound to them and they’re awesome! I hope this helps! But fr though I agree, Gen 5 really did have some of the best music in the series and it’s a shame that even a remake probably won’t sound and good as the original.

[@BananaReidy]

With pixel art we wouldn't have to worry about dexcuts.

[@trevor0078]

@@shinysteve9965hot take: gen 5 might be one of the most controversial remakes. Reason being because people will be mad if they make it 3D like the current games or about not have the unique art style which is gonna be very tricky to do especially due to the transition to 3D. TLDR; remakes r gonna be very very mixed and I don’t think there’s gonna be pleasing either side.

[@slaine7874]

@@trevor0078As someone whose favorite games in the series are BW/BW2 I wouldn’t mind the 3D upgrade. I’m more concerned about them making changes that ruin the experience such as making it easier or just straight up cutting things out that were already there. Basically everything that happened to BDSP.

[@hashkfel]

I think sada and turo's double battle team is: Flutter Mane, Roaring Moon, Koraidon, Iron Jugulis, Iron Valiant, Miraidon

[@eliyaskiya]

Iron Bundle or Iron Moth instead of Iron Jugulis

[@TheVera800]

Something tells me the AI would go “fU€k the rU1e$” and pull out all of their Pokémon for either a 6v12, or a 12v12

[@haveagoodday7021]

@@TheVera800 I'd love that ngl

[@kalebb9983]

@@TheVera800 if by a 6v12 you mean 6 per prof i agree, but a 12v12 wouldn't work for the trianer.

[@jupiterivan3433]

@@TheVera800 I mean the Volo battle is technically a 6v8. I could get behind a 6v12 double battle. May be one of the hardest fights in the entire series, but I’m all for it.

[@kitgodsey]

I cant really write in words how this made me feel but for the first two solid minutes all I did was vibe. Incredible, absolutely captures the gen 5 feel

[@ct2xperience749]

It's just weird how two remixes of the same theme play in B2W2's soundfont sounds very different.

[@AcobraBE]

Sounds great, i really like the implemetation of Colress' soundbank.

[@el_kommander8924]

I like how you added the instruments that also plays in ghetsis's theme. Cool remix

[@ionryful]

If I had a nickel for everytime a mad, android scientist tried to use a time machine to catch Pokemon, I'd have 2 nickels. It isn't much but it's wierd that it happened twice.

[@anibry6666]

Lol

[@anibry6666]

If I had a nickel for everytime i died in killstreak mayhem, I d have 100 nickels. It is a lot, but its not strange.

[@riv3r_mango705]

*mad, dead scientist tried to use an android and a Time Machine to catch Pokémon

[@BJGvideos]

The AIs weren't the villains though. They were the ones trying to shut everything down because they couldn't justify the professor's plan any more.

[@Phoenix-iz2ey]

Absolutely fantastic, I love the bw2 soundfont!!

[@022107]

Imagine if the final boss of SV was a double battle, both past and future Pokémon ganging up on you.

[@NightmareJames]

DLC maybe?

[@kimetsu_kids]

テツノイバラがポケウッドに出てくるメカバンギラスにそっくりだったから BWアレンジは本当に「わかってる」と思うわ、素晴らしい

[@user-ew3dg7jx6o]

ポケウッド懐かしい…BW2が一番好きだから嬉しい

[@onizakisyura]

激しく同意ですわ〜！

[@tysondennis1016]

It looks like Nate and Rosa are gonna challenge Sada and Turo to a rap battle.

[@karlmarx8687]

BW2 soundfonts always fits well Nice job🥰🥰

[@boryontotheleader2328]

It just feels like something is missing. It doesn't feel as intense, so to speak. Like I feel it there; but just missing an element

[@riv3r_mango705]

Maybe it’s the horns ( like at 1:25 ) or the bells ( like at 1:48 ) that are a bit off.

[@estheraleman6043]

Needs the Hugh treatment

[@Ale-Y]

How many times did they turn this song into gen 5 soundfont?, (this is the best one tbh)

[@HDGamerofficial]

Yo at 0:35 the notes in the background that hold just hit me right in my soul, and gives me all the emotions I feel when I listen to Gen 5 music. You absolutely nailed it 👏👏👏

[@misskenneon6111]

This is pure art!!! good job ❤❤❤

[@_sintrovert]

THIS IS JUST SO GREAT

[@grandarkfang_1482]

Peak music, right here

[@Galdr]

This is fire, I love this. Going to listen on repeat for a while. Got the ear bug for this.

[@user-fx6zy4js3h]

This is awesome!

[@DefenderFan683]

Nate: go Garchomp Rosa: go Haxorus Guess the reference and you get a virtual cookie

[@hyphe1337]

I think Alpharad said it best when he said that Pokemon Scarlet and Violet are "Pokemon Mommy issues and Pokemon Daddy issues"

[@riv3r_mango705]

It’s a pick your poison type of game.

[@Maldives-CountryBall4850]

Four words: This is a banger

[@mutevert]

2:42 this part sounds goofier now (in a good way) lol i love it so much

[@Antroz0n]

I like how the professors are holding hands, lol

[@hibiki0506]

They aren't holding hands. Sada has her hand in the pocket while Turo has his hand holding on his side.

[@Antroz0n]

@@hibiki0506 Oh, dangit..

[@lexyinspace]

@@hibiki0506 We've been tricked, we've been backstabbed, and we've been quite possibly bamboozled.

[@MattDustyParker]

Don't worry bro my eyes tricked me too.

[@Antroz0n]

@@MattDustyParker The thing is, I looked so closely repeatedly before I commented. Obviously I didn't look close enough though because now I can't even see it anymore.

[@nyana6641]

this is flames. god I miss the old days

[@TheFrozenGarvine]

Had to double take part way through, sounded a lot like an Emdasche track. Sounded awesome

[@BurningFlamesofDivineDragon]

This is super cool.

[@RavenRedEye901]

Oh, that would be amazingly. We had never have a double battle as final boss organization. I would love to see that happen someday, likely these two have the potential to do that.

[@mslabo102s2]

The entire sequence of The Way Home was something out from Pokestar movies.

[@MyLittlePwnyta]

Especially in Violet, with the robot Tyrannitars.

[@LegatoSkyheart]

This song sounds really good with the Gen 5 sound chip.

[@dylanzlol7293]

The start sounds more epic and/or intense than in the original version

[@gabrielmillan1164]

I loves the Black and White Games, are the best generation of everytime.

[@pjweaver8496]

probably the best version out rn👍

[@dash_dash100]

They're holding hands lol

[@Fb_Sim_Cyan_Friend]

They aren't.

[@AHGally2005]

Is there a way to get a 2 on 2 battle, two people who are willing to step up vs Sada and Turo in the same teams they had in the actual games? Would love to see that! Also, are sada and turo holding hands?

[@hibiki0506]

No, they aren't holding hands, they have both their hands in their pockets. It is just a little mistake I have seen after uploading it, because someone pointed it out already. 😅

[@AHGally2005]

@@hibiki0506 Oh ok, was making sure things weren't turning ugly for those 2

[@KamiChrisy]

Combining 2 of the best Pokémon games

[@wallywally9656]

Yes 👍

[@riv3r_mango705]

*the best parts of Pokémon

[@MadnessOpus]

Very Megaman Zero-y. Me likey.

[@albertotognoni4819]

Good ost remix

[@camilomartan746]

for some reason this remix makes me sleepy

[@ceumadorgas9407]

01:24 this part in specific sounds really weird, but the rest is fire!

[@brink7894]

I can only imagine that the starting progression at the beginning is intentionally wrong, going down scale wise rather than chromatically?

[@keiu6609]

It's great; I love it! That part that sounds like ZUNpets though!

[@earendilthemariner5546]

Hope they remake the johto and unova games for the switch. Dont think i care if its a lets go, legends, or the usual style, i just want them

[@victiniblast]

If we didn't have the whole Nintendo Online NES, SNES, N64 library thing and had Virtual Console on Switch, I'd have loved Red, Blue, Yellow, Gold, Silver, Crystal, Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald as a Virtual Console purchase. But oh well. But I expect Gen 5 remakes will be on the next future Switch-esque console.

[@Aizu94]

Gen 5 remake is going to be on a new Nintendo's handheld console Every remakes in this series follow the same pattern, FRLG is on GBA, HGSS is on DS, ORAS is on 3DS andand BDSP is on Switch

[@62049]

I want the artstyle back

[@foungle4020]

I love it!!! What is your fav part in this pokémon battle music? Pls write it!!!❤🦊

[@xx74s59G]

DSアレンジは抜ける👍

[@Imperfectcell13]

3:05 gulpin

[@gamesmore-moonlight946]

2x speed Low HP mode.

[@ojama102]

did you make this or is it midi?

[@hibiki0506]

I've made this and it even runs on original hardware (with a flashcard). When I do music in B2W2 style, I am trying to be within the limitations the DS has.

[@meheecan123]

Someone already made a Black & White version of this track lol

[@devilbowser253]

this remix is good but doesnt quite have the same oomf as the original

[@hibiki0506]

To catch the same feeling as the original, you have to be Toby Fox. 😅

[@10jii_]

@@hibiki0506 frfr

[@Charlie_Loves]

Ngl I’m wondering if I’d like a return to sprites for the remakes.

[@hibiki0506]

I think it would be great to return to sprites in a 3D world like in the DS games. But after seeing how many people were against the chibi style in BDSP, I don't think that would happen again.

[@Charlie_Loves]

@@hibiki0506 I’ll disagree on that. Atleast for me, I didn’t like the polished chibu style, I preferred the ds aesthetic better- and perhaps they would’ve been more popular if they returned to that style instead.

[@xblazex2]

toss this on spotify

[@hibiki0506]

Sorry, but I don't have Spotify and I don't plan on getting Spotify in the near future

[@EmeraldEleki7]

Why does this game not have a battle tower or battle facility at all, it's a big missed opportunity Oh yeah, excellent style to this theme bw and bw2 have great music

[@TinySpiny]

Pokémon Scalet?

[@hibiki0506]

oof I didn't have noticed it, because I am normally typing Karmesin (the German name) or S/V. But thanks for the hint!

[@TinySpiny]

@@hibiki0506 fair enough. Good remix though.

[@AndromedaDE]

@@hibiki0506 moin meister, danke für den remix ^^

[@Floofrer]

Clarity of the music kinda a bit rugged and messy. Still a good try

[@AkaiAzul]

Song sounds a bit slower than OG. Unfortunately, 1.25 times speed is too fast.

[@hibiki0506]

I've used the drum loop from the Achromas battle theme, which is 160 bpm. That's why I've used 160 bpm here too.

[@eliyaskiya]

Why does Turo look sad?

[@quentc]

Sometimes people are forced to realize that their happiness comes at the expense of the world around them. What then? Are you just supposed to dream different dream, or fight tooth and nail for a cause you yourself know is flawed? The expression is self pity, methinks

[@eliyaskiya]

@@quentc I meant compared to Sada but this is probably also a reason.

[@riv3r_mango705]

I personally think the expression is so because it’s supposed to be how the AI doesn’t want to fight but is forced to do so due to his programming. The AI can’t choose its own path. He couldn’t have really been there for Arven, couldn’t have cheered on the player when they defeated Geeta; he can’t even go outside of the lab he’s stuck in. Yet he’s facing someone who can make the choices he couldn’t have, Personally, I think it’s a bittersweet self pity and self reflection. (Anyone’s interpretation is completely valid; I just wanted to put my take out there)

[@BJGvideos]

The AIs have every reason to be sad

[@500youtuber7]

HGSSにもいいね～

[@netweed09]

Wait,, why sprites?? We got the vanilla glorious 3D one! 😄

[@hibiki0506]

The change to 3D was the biggest mistake. The models of the characters may look good, but that does not help if the whole world looks bad and lags so hard as SV. I've played Scarlet for ~135 hours and my game only shows 126 hours of it because these hours were filled with lags. If we want *good* 3D games, we need a *good* developer for it instead of GF.

[@netweed09]

​@@hibiki0506 I understand your point later on in your reply. But the 1st line, I don't know I really don't agree with that 1 bit sorry - I think the change to 3D was _everything_ for the series and as seen in the extremely strong sales has made many millions happy. The overwhelming majority are very happy with the Direction Pokémon has gone in especially with the fully Open World now. However, of course the game (SV) has flaws: not being able to enter buildings is something GF really need to change. And I agree, they really need to lend world development to Monolith as though the Patches have fixed a ton of the week 1 issues, the game shouldn't be lagging in heavily grassy areas etc. Still, I must say I give the games overall a strong 8/10: I found them, including the celebrated story to be the Best overall Pokémon experiences since gen 6 over 10 years ago. The Open-world was the priority for this gen, similar to Zelda's 'transformation' in Breath: but unlike Breath sacrificing _all_ it's key Dungeons, Scarlet/Violet still give you at least 6 full Gyms. It's amazing to see these out in the Open world, and the feeling you get while exploring is just what people envisioned when they were kids. Bizarrely, most online 'reviewers' seem to have jumped on this bandwagon on rating the game on it's technical flaws, totally ignoring the patches. But for me, I neve want to return to those sprites or anything less than what SV has given Us, for me it has Successfully transitioned the series into the grand scheme of things.

[@nonamebane4477]

Solargress did it first and better. No offense but his is just better

[@hibiki0506]

His version was my motivation to make it myself, because it annoys me too much if someone makes a "BW2" version but puts reverb over the song, which doesn't work on the DS like that. My intention was to make it compatible with the game and that's why I am using the limitations that are given. I am sure that it could be done better, because I've never learned how to write music *the right way*, but that's the best I can do with limitations.