I Tried The New Logitech Keyboard... (So You Don't Have To.)

[@HipyoTech]

Check Out My New Keyboard Marketplace Boardwalk! (Giveaway on here) district.net/boardwalk?referral=HIPYO (Also somehow the soundtest got cut from this video by my editor and I didn't realize it? but trust me on this one you didn't want to hear it.)

[@tikitopia]

Feeling kind'a sorry for Logi as I do appreciate them for some of their product offerings, but after watching this video and not being able to come up in my head with one single argument to contest any of the reasoning being exposed here, it is even more painful. You're undoubtedly right in sharing your frustration and disappointment, especially after having spent $180 US plus tax for this. And then the claims; and then the press release; and then the PRO part; and then the inability to mod it; and then... oh boy. Please tell me you did not pay for this out of your own pocket. Informative video and entertaining as always. Luv 🥰

[@HipyoTech]

@@tikitopia hahaha with paying an editor this is one of the more expensive vids I've ever made!

[@Flickxbot]

pls try the alula f75

[@stevenajack]

Hey Hipyo, sadly I see on Boardwalk there is no UK shipping option or even any sellers that ship to the ROW region, sad times 😞

[@HipyoTech]

@@stevenajack yeah 😭 gotta get EU and UK approval on things so it will be a few months

[@Gungybung]

Designed with prose? Sorry I like my keyboards designed with poetry.

[@ironjavelin7482]

Must be a collaboration with microprose before they closed down 🤣

[@concinnus]

@@ironjavelin7482 Nah, since it's a kb, it'd have to be MacroProse.

[@PWingert1966]

I like my keyboard to sound like Poetry. ASMR Poetry!

[@PWingert1966]

@@concinnus Ahh! spellchecker prose!😉

[@Andrewgordon947]

Nobody’s laughing

[@DragoNate]

anything "gaming" increases the price automatically 75%. adding "pro" increases it another 50%. wireless is +100%. this keyboard should only really be like $50.

[@abdulwhatever2912]

I saw somebody selling computer keyboard IBM from 2001 asking price $200 WTF?. Because he put the additional word "Mechanical Systems" TF ??

[@DragoNate]

@@abdulwhatever2912 wtf? it's probably "vintage" as well haha

[@The_Boctor]

@@abdulwhatever2912 Sounds like how Ebay people sell Netburst-based Dell Dimensions from 2003 as "RETRO DOS GAMING PC."

[@abdulwhatever2912]

@@The_Boctor ,🤣🤣 sugarcoating every fkn thing for more bucks.

[@rogenelabiano2249]

I won't pay for more than $25 to be honest. Royal Kludge has even better options with more than half the price

[@AceGaimz]

"Big companies make the worst crap" -DankPods

[@Billy_The_Frog]

Amen

[@RemedieX]

They somehow make both the best and worst crap. Because their mice are on the top and ngl, some of them deserve it, but this keyboard and some of others? The WORST OF THE WORST for the price

[@R-Tech]

unexpected Wade reference, nice

[@VoyivodaFTW1]

I read this in his voice LMAOOOO

[@adamtajhassam9188]

im still glad i went for corsair way better...4 that price + 20 dollar discount.

[@8bitsloth]

They saw a Newman keyboard and went, "I bet we can take that $25 China keyboard with a metal baseplate, make it completely out of plastic, and charge nearly 700% more for it."

[@9684yami]

There are more blissful ignorant people out there than there are keyboard enthusiast. They see the Logitech badge, they see the word 'gaming', they'll gobble it up.

[@KiziKitty]

yeah, I was one of them few years ago, and now i have g810 that is a 200 usd paperweight cos 3 switches need replacing and they are soldered and can't even buy them from logitech (proprietary switches). Never again.

[@stanley909]

Sad but true.

[@eTiMaGo]

Honestly, until recently, that would have been me :D

[@Rikipaus]

but you know, in the end for absolutely normal population, casual gamers whatever, this is more than enough as keyboard :d and every other features that have diff keyboards better, its minor, and im not talking about this specific keyboard, but about your logitech badge comment, cuz mouses they are doing absolutely superb, probably best in the market, and some keyboards are also "okay"

[@Nateyo]

they also see the word "pro" and they're sold.

[@Beautifulbrokenmusic]

So the really cool thing about Logitech software, is that the new control panel doesn't support older devices, which means you need to have the old Logitech control panel installed for those devices. Sounds like a minor inconvenience? Well, you can't have both installed at the same time. You get to choose either the newer devices, *or* the old ones. So if you have an old racing wheel and a new mouse, you're SOL.

[@rspy24]

By old, you must be talking about a 15+ year-old device. Even if I hate G Hub, it does support pretty old devices.

[@KASHAMV]

The Kendrick reference caught me off guard

[@theburgundynetwork3432]

That was my favorite part of the video lmao. Unexpected but appreciated.

[@lleytonplaysvideogames]

same lmaoooo

[@happyspacefun3796]

Frfr

[@prescotthancock5907]

lmfao I came here just for that. I'm dyingg

[@f.miller801]

He the culture. Average Dot fan.

[@aaron_333]

What was the 2nd keyboard that you showed Josie? It looks like a Monsgeek with 2 columns of navigation keys.

[@avomaki]

i just found it, looks like it is YUNZII AL71

[@Linkman8912]

17:19 "what the *board* meetings were like" such a good pun right there

[@HipyoTech]

Years of training led up to this moment

[@mahirooyama9424]

@@HipyoTech”LED”

[@dalexa]

That was the key...

[@RylnX]

@@HipyoTech i want to watch the video of it but i cant find it. does anyone found it

[@OceanBagel]

Imagine making a premium gaming keyboard and not even putting arrow keys on it

[@JakeBurth]

Yeah, But it’s a 60%. That’s why some people want without arrow keys

[@electrified0]

That's literally the form factor. 60% keyboards don't have arrow keys.

[@OceanBagel]

@@electrified0 I honestly can't imagine a use case for a 60% gaming keyboard other than a portable option to be used in a pinch. It's just missing so much functionality. If you're paying hundreds on a premium daily driver gaming keyboard that will sit on your desk, it seems incredibly silly to skimp out on so many keys. Not to mention the many games you wouldn't even be able to play with this so-called gaming keyboard.

[@scimitar9018]

it aint even premium cuh 😭😭😭

[@coomsicle]

@@OceanBagel it's not skimping lol. it's the layout.. people choose 60%, 75%, 85% tkl ect. i prefer 60% as well, to save space on my mouse pad and because it's very easy to reach across the keyboard with one hand. i have a very large mouse pad so space isn't an issue, i just don't really need the arrow keys. the function key combined with the 4 "functional arrow" keys is fine. i almost never use arrow keys anyway, so the few times i need to, ill just hit function. a good 60% board will have a fn key on both left and right side though. annoying when it's only on the right hand side. also there are zero games that are unplayable with a 60% layout. at least not in my experience. the"missing" keys are are replaced with a function key and some keys on the board double as one of those "missing" keys when FN key is held down. most gamers prefer the compact keyboards these days. i cant remember the last time i saw a full sized keyboard with a second number pad. so gross lookin

[@toastymctoastinson]

logitech just can’t make keyboards that don’t suck

[@HipyoTech]

2034 gonna have the sickest keyboard from logitech

[@rainbowcat415]

​@@HipyoTechLogi just simply a Pro of making a keyboard suck, just admit it.

[@dugsssaojwvej]

@@HipyoTechwhat if the pros they got were all controller players

[@MrBonham]

I have a usb wireless Logitech keyboard that has a TouchPad and it works awesome for connecting to my TV. It is in no way customizable but suits the purpose

[@haomingli6175]

their membrane keyboards like the mx keys are good.

[@misterfunk1973]

What keyboard did you bring in at 15:30? Love the sound of that one :)

[@genano504]

Im interested in that one as well

[@adxo]

i need to know as well

[@thedirtypaw]

Yunzii/Womier Sk71 check out his vid on it!

[@avomaki]

YUNZII AL71

[@simondudek8721]

I just dont know what they were thinking, marketing remapping keys as a feature is crazy

[@maxmoch6044]

its the key feature of that board

[@ToyKeeper]

Perhaps Logitech's main mistake here was attempting to make a _keyboard._ Like, the kind people use for gaming and/or serious typing. What they excel at is making glorified television remotes, not daily workhorse keyboards.

[@slapp3r439]

gaming keyboards dont exist they just market normal keyboards with rgb and low form factor like the custom keyboard industry hasnt been doing this for years and tcustom accel at being a keyboard more than anything big companies will advertise

[@yanni-duff]

@@slapp3r439 this take held true before modern analog keyboards like the wooting became a thing

[@babylaaamp2809]

Logitech fall off is crazy, at this price wooting clears

[@Ice_ZOMBIES]

I wish this man also ran a gaming channel. I could listen to his voice and his commentary all day, I love it

[@AlwaysBolttheBird]

For a company that makes my favorite mice it’s amazing that they can’t make at least a decent keyboard

[@Stackali]

thats why complete brand loyalty is dumb. some people feel the need to get every peripheral from one company, and they end up with probably half their stuff being overpriced junk and some stuff just overpriced for no reason but it has gaming or pro in its name.

[@strayiggytv]

Honestly they have no competition when it comes to mice. Some other company might be able to make better mice but none seem interested in trying. You have Logitech, the default mice that come with their respective brands and tons of nameless Chinese products. That's it

[@panvlk]

@@strayiggytv Tbh the "nameless chinese products" pretty much caught up with the big boys now when it comes to the mice. And they evolve much much faster than the dinosaurs like Logitech and Razer. Logitech released GPX2 with a big fanfare recently, and it's basically just a GPX1 copy with USB-C and 2000MHz polling rate. And they spent years making it. Brands like Lamzu, Pulsar, Vaxee and others are releasing tons of great mice frequently, around half the price, full of latest tech, 8000MHz sensors, optical switches and encoders, super light weight, hot swappable switches etc. Logitech is living off their past fame, but they aren't the inovators in the mouse market anymore either.

[@psionoblast5379]

I've had nothing but bad experiences with logitexh mice. My g305 and g903 both had double click. Somehow a used g502 i got off ebay still works but that's it

[@haomingli6175]

their membrane keyboards for office work are good. mx keys. also their keyboard cases for ipads have very good typing feel. have not tried their gaming keyboards though.

[@jrtta]

Looking at this now, this was actually so informative. I went looking for a keyboard a few months back and wanted something that was actually high quality. I saw logitech released a keyboard and I'm so happy I saw this because it made me change my mind on buying it. I instead went for a keyboard calling the Hummingbird68 after watching some reviews from different youtubers and even though there was a long wait for the keyboard. It's seems like it could easily be way higher quality for a cheaper price. So thanks for the review and stopping me from buying that keyboard.

[@jonathansmith4737]

Best Hipyo video of 2024 so far, this keyboard screams $40 amazon special.

[@GoblinAlchemi]

That might be a bit generous considering the prebuilt Epomaker TH80 Pro is on sale for $45 rn. I'm very new to the hobby, but as someone who has been scouring Amazon very recently looking for the right budget board to start my custom journey with, it feels like we are actually starting to get solid budget offerings, especially when you factor in sales. This keyboard honestly gave the vibes of those unnamed, near-permanently marked down boards you see listed for $20-$30

[@butterscotchpanda]

Man congrats to Hipyo for somehow managing to extend this colossal nothingburger into a 20 minute video.

[@AvoidMyGost]

They used xqc as a model of reference for the pros

[@blinkx1070]

xQc was an eSports pro

[@ryboits75]

@@blinkx1070 Man is a pro at eating his own toenails

[@gentleman2292]

he was an overwatch 2 pro though

[@huutonauris]

@@gentleman2292 overwatch 2 😂

[@gentleman2292]

@@huutonauris i mean yeah its a bad game but he was pro at it

[@TriPBOOMER]

Appreciate the feed back on this one, as a Logitech fanboy I know to stay away from the ''Pro'' X 60, both my sons use G915 tkl's, and I have a G710+, Although I feel this thing is still here mainly for nostalgic reason 🤣🤣 great vid Hipyo

[@Maite-AileenBrandt]

Oh, damn … in Germany, it is even more like $215 (currency converted) … ahhhh … rip. That really hurts to see.

[@IdunRedstone]

US price doesn't include tax, that's one of big reasons for price difference (unless you took off tax, then good on you and RIP germany pricing lol)

[@EricPietschmann]

@@IdunRedstone no, pretty much no one here does prices excl tax

[@dooderman8361]

Dude Logitech built up a great reputation for their mouse, they made the Superlight and every pro was using it, and instead of saying “alright team let’s stay competitive, let’s stay innovative, let’s reach out to esports pros and ask what they like about our products, what they don’t” instead they said “Big payday time boys, let’s release the cheapest pieces of garbage from 5 years ago and charge 2024 premium prices cause since pros use our nice everyone thinks we’re good and we can cash out on our reputation” I got bad news Logitech, everyone sees through your bullshit. Tragic that this company probably could have gone so far but has clearly given up to cash out on their reputation. Screw them

[@thrash1337]

Thing is, most people don't know what a good keyboard is. They see 'mechanical' in the name and automatically assume it's just good. At most people understand the actuation distance and force and just rely on that spec sheet. In reality, a keyboard is much more than that, in fact, I'd argue that it's primarily NOT that.

[@iikarko]

after watching this i would say if you are buying this you are probably a gamer , so i would suggest just get a wooting for that price point !

[@JpGuidi]

Same, I have plenty of customs, nothing games competitively like my 60he and as a huuuge plus you can actually customize it all the way, and wooting themselves teach you how to do most of it

[@r00fus_d00fus]

Facts, purchased and returned my pro x 60 in favor of the wooting 60he+

[@Upgrayedddd]

Any feedback on Keychron? Its supposed to be a legit high end manufacturer but what I got seems scammy. Ill check out woote, thanks

[@i_nameless_i-jgsdf]

Is this the same quality as one of those Temu 60% keyboard which comes with a key puller and extra key caps ?

[@Ice_2192]

What Logitech is for keyboard enthusiasts is what Bose is to audiophiles.

[@toseltreps1101]

i bought 2 Bose products in my lifetime, both convinced me to NEVER buy anything from that brand ever again

[@ToyKeeper]

I would trust Logitech to make the remote control for a Bose stereo... but I wouldn't want to _type_ on it.

[@kornar]

Beats.

[@slapp3r439]

@@kornar its crazy how apple puts their name on that garbage like it still amazes me why people still buy that garbage

[@ze_or]

​@@slapp3r439Beats and apple are actually fine for audio now. The best bang for buck? definitely not. But recent airpods are considered pretty good by many reputable reviewers.

[@turb0z]

This is pretty on par with most mainstream keyboards. I'm so glad people like you are out here on KZbin talking about this. Keyboards could be so much better than they are today, and these big manufacturers could do SO MUCH MORE. Instead, let's just keep supporting these smaller keyboard makers that are pushing out amazing products!

[@eerolz8758]

The infinite scrollwheel of 502 is something I couldn't live without, hopefully mine will survive until their patent expires because Logitech only has like 3 options with it. Need more competition to choose from!

[@blinkx1070]

I don't understand. Several other mice have this feature. Like my Razer Basilisk v3

[@ze_or]

Keychron m6 that came out somewhat recently has it. Logitech has been officially dead to me since getting one. Multiply g502 and mx master, reduce to weight to 80 grams and sell it for $50. That's what the keychron m6 is.

[@eerolz8758]

@@ze_or Nice, although not sure if I could make do without the macro buttons of 502. But that does indeed have the mechanical button for it, wonder how they're getting around the patent. Since from my understanding the patent is still active for few years. (to the end of 2026 I believe)

[@hanley6478]

​@@ze_or I own both G502X and Keychron m6. m6 is nice and light but the software is awful, you can't change profile without opening the software, there is no button to change profile on the mouse. Beside that m6 have fewer keys than G502 that didn't help because there is no layers (or the equivalent of G-shift) on m6. The scrollwheel unlock button on m6 is really nice though due to the short travel distant, I never unlock the wheel on G502 because the button is hard to press.

[@ze_or]

@@hanley6478 I usually don't change my mouse bindings and just rebind forward/back on the app i'm using instead, so I can't really relate personally, but I see where you are coming from. Would've been really cool if keychron mouse could come with vial or something.

[@AdreEilyn]

0:54 I hate the way you sneak diss if I catch flight its gonna be direct 🗣️📢 (Subscribed now)

[@nicholasdenittis46]

HAHA: "I don't like it when my keyboard makes sounds when I'm not typing on it." This is literal self-sabotage on part of Logitech. This is enough to make me never want to buy a Logitech keyboard ever again.

[@l-dog]

As someone who's worked at a company that has become more and more corporate over time, I can definitely say that big corporate companies have a really hard time meeting enthusiasts where they are. They can't really wrap their corporate mainstream brains and processes around super niche wants and needs because everything kind of has to fit into their top-down approval process. And a lot of the times, most of the people making the decisions are people who are focused more on numbers and their own personal preferences than what the target audience actually wants, which is sad.

[@manceirvin7068]

When Hipyo uploads it’s a good day fr🔥🔥🔥

[@escapeee]

Now we just need streams....

[@belgarathlesorcier8385]

This is not a keyboard for enthusiasts, Logitech don't care about them, this is not their target. They aim for average "gamers" with extra bucks to spend, people that don't even know you can customize a keyboard

[@jherick7120]

The point is that the quality is bad for a "pro" and "expensive" keyboard. You can get more quality out of your money with non-gaming mechanical keyboards

[@Yaarek]

Own mx mechanical and I am surprised that pro x 60 is such downgrade. If someone only considers logitech keyboards, just go with mx. It is little bit cheaper, full size, does not rattle and upper part of case is metal.

[@CitAllHearItAll]

I use the MX mechanical TKL. And it’s fantastic. I was using an Anne Pro 2 before, and I that thing feels awful in comparison.

[@MichaelDooney]

I have the MX Mechanical Mini since almost a year and it's amazing.

[@FinalManaTrigger]

I just bought the MX Mechanical Mini and it's really awesome. it's built like a tank and feels great to type on.

[@zackphy]

The g502 x plus lightspeed is my favorite mouse of all time, which of course it is because the g502 x and normal g502 were my favs b4 it. It makes playing games that require tons of keys like Destiny 2 SOOO much better. That infinite scroll wheel is great as well.

[@TheMagnumload]

I returned my G502X Plus, absolute downgrade from the OG G 502 LS. Switches were awful sounding very hollow and the pinging was on another level, palm grippers will hate it because they didn't bother to taper the sharp angles where your palm sits and the scroll wheel is worse. On one hand, it is noticeably lighter I just bought another g502lightspeed instead. It'll last another 5 years, hopefully Logi will come back with something good by then. Been using their mice since G5 days.

[@HateHater2205]

Epic video, its cool seeing how far Hipyo has come. Would love to see more Steelseries next!

[@ronochow]

The full metal plate being stiff can be a redeeming feature. Stiff (can feel more responsive) vs Flex (I've definitely had boards feel sluggish and too flexy)

[@LivingArmor196]

$180!? You could build two sick custom keyboards with this money.

[@b0mberr330]

You could get a wooting for that money

[@Shyvorix]

​@b0mberr330 Yep. And in the world of gaming keyboards, Wooting reigns king with very few remotely close competitors.

[@atomicskull6405]

You could buy a blank GMMK and a set of keyswitches and keycaps for less than that. Hell even a prebuilt GMMK costs $160 so what are they smoking?

[@atomicskull6405]

@@Shyvorix I agree on wooting performance but unfortunately non hot swappable keyboards are unusable to me because the only keyswicthes I find tolerable are Kailh pinks with jades on the larger keys. I grew up with IBM bucking springs so quiet / soft keytswitches are intolerable to me and even cherry and gateron tactile switches feel yucky. The kailh pink / jade is the closest mechanical switch I've found to a bucking spring.

[@joe--cool]

And those wouldn't be missing half the keys.

[@aerobigmasterwong8454]

What an impressive keyboard! Whenever i type on this keyboard, it creates a marvellous booming sound that makes people thought I'm carrying a machine gun, making them no longer wish to mess with me again. Great job done!

[@sinom]

First pro of this keyboard: It's available in non american layouts. It's got way better latency than Keychron's keyboards do So there is a reason to get it over others, even over keychrons.

[@HipyoTech]

Latency is an argument I see brought up a lot, but in practice most keyboards have an acceptable latency for the majority of gamers and most people won't tell the difference

[@haomingli6175]

@@HipyoTech pro gaming gear has been chasing latency beyond human perception and performance for a long time. optical switches on keyboards and mice exist just for this reason. also they have longer lifespan because there is no mechanical contact and abrasion.

[@sarpp69]

if your focus is gaming, you get a wooting and not this trash.​@@haomingli6175

[@SudoYETI]

I have Logitech G613 lightspeed and I have a RK84PRO. I cannot tell the difference between either and I'm playing Apex Legends with them. Granted I prefer my Wooting 60HE for Apex for Super Glides but the difference in latency is not noticeable unless I swap to BT. I've been able to pull off Super Glides with both. If you HATE Keychron there are plenty of other options like Nuphy and Lofree.

[@ze_or]

keychron is also available in non american layouts.

[@ChrisB5_]

I've tried optical switches and currently use them on my daily driver (Hunstman Tournament Edition), but they took so much getting used to. Took me a few months to really get used to the actuation points especially since it actuates BEFORE the click... it doesn't have the same forced feedback as your standard set. However I think some of these companies are marketing optical as 'gamer' due to how highly sensitive they can end up being, and that is such a bad reason to give it the 'gamer' tag. It kind of makes the keyboard harder to really use (esp if you need to smash a key) until you get used to the very sensitive and rather high actuation point (it's way further up then you'd think so spamming the key like a normal switch does nothing as it thinks you've still depressed the key). I can only assume this has similar flaws, and pair that with the price tag and cheap materials? Yikes.... I think mine was closer to $80 at the time. I can see why everyone is calling it a scam. Logitech really messed up here. Not to mention proprietary switches for that cost? Insane.

[@SaintsPurgatory]

Throw in the rgb as it seems that's all you need for a 'gamer' keyboard.

[@Laughingcoyote1213]

Such a shame. I loved their G915 TKL keyboard so was expecting more. I def wanna see you react to their build video though 😂.

[@ashvander7864]

i would LOVE a video on your mouse! my partner has been looking for a new mouse and yours looks really awesome so i'd love to learn more about why you love it!

[@55Kryan]

Logitech thinks they're Apple

[@nwojdak]

A few months ago I bought a CoolerMaster SK622 60% keyboard, as I wanted to have a teeny mechanical keyboard to bring along to LAN parties and such. Considering I just needed WASD+Space for 90% of the games I played, it's done the job quite nice. While I was watching this video, I was comparing the Logitech to my CoolerMaster, and the only thing I envied was the carrying case and the volume slider on the side. Everything else was leaps and bounds better than the Logitech, and my CoolerMaster only cost $90 USD (But I got it on sale for $59)

[@vali69]

I'm sorry you had to pay this much for a coolermaster keyboard. For that much money you could have gotten a luck65 that has features you would have only seen on 300 or 400+ dollar keyboards 5 years ago, but now those kinds of custom keebs can be had for 60 bucks. Insane value if you ask me.

[@robster7787]

I am looking forward to these keyboards when they eventually go on Sale. Back in 2022 I bought a G Pro Keyboard for $20 at target. Those normally go for $120, so I expect these to go on sale at some point for similar prices, because at $40, its probably worth it.

[@vali69]

Nah bro I wouldn't pay nore than 20 for this thing, 40 is too much.

[@aserta]

Would like to point out that the keyboard case is cheap trash that you can buy premade with customized logos for about 1000 buckaroonies for 100 pieces or there about. You essentially start with a flat sandwich that gets heat formed, to which then they either glue or use a shoe type sewing machine to sew on the zipper. The whole op is less than 5 minutes per case and can be done with stuff you have at home you so desire.

[@dstinnettmusic]

The issue with a big company doing mechanical keyboards that are good enough for enthusiast is repair/replacement costs. The “standard” hot swap system is great, but it is something that is hard to “automate” to mass produce and they are prone to ma factoring errors where the socket is not 100% aligned and so they pop off when the user installs a switch….meaning they face a choice to either have a generous refund policy or to have angry customers. It just makes sense to try to come up with a “new and innovative” switch system. What I’m getting at…they just won’t be able to make something that is cheap enough to hit the “mass market” represented by people who want a good keyboard for gaming but has the quality expected by a keyboard enthusiast.

[@HipyoTech]

That plays a role, but in reality they just want to maintain their obscene margins and play it safe with what has historically worked really well.

[@Tendee]

⁠@@HipyoTechYeah, for example Polar65, drunkdeer a75 pro, and Boog75 are all hotswap and much better quality than this, along with hall effect switches which are infinitely better for gaming.

[@strayiggytv]

​@@Tendeethose are all Chinese brands which probably pay their workers even less that Logitech pays their Chinese workers. So many of the rando Chinese keyboard brands are able to be very nimble in their home market and get good deals on parts. It's why when they make a key board everyone loves half the time it sells out and they never make it exactly the same way again.

[@Tendee]

@@strayiggytv The different batches of the zoom75 are still just as good though?

[@strayiggytv]

@@Tendee i mean I assume they are. Only way to know would be to open them up and see what the quality is in the inside.

[@AceSox]

Razer has some mice with the infinite scroll now too. Just thought I'd leave that here for anyone that wants options lol. (It's a little different not being on a bearing but using some fero fluid tech instead, but it feels and functions similar enough)

[@shonen84]

Loving the Focal Bathys cans. Got them too, they’re awesome

[@max10hoop]

Best wireless headphones hands down!

[@WhoIsKryp]

Their wireless mice have been a sign of the direction the company was going for awhile now. They started using switches rated at a different voltage than the batteries, which was causing their infamous double click issue, and then gaslit their customers saying that it wasn't an issue with the mouse and people were reading too much into it. I can't say I'm even a little surprised with how this keyboard went.

[@Teh-Penguin]

Kinda weird that after making the G915, they make this. The G915 is overall a solid keyboard.

[@AbiPrasad]

You have never tried a real keyboard then lol

[@abdelilhmanflores]

True I’ve had my 915 for 5 years now and it’s still doing a good job. If I ever buy another keyboard it might be the Rainy75

[@Teh-Penguin]

@@AbiPrasad sorry, mine are all out of ginger bread

[@OD_Plays]

​@@AbiPrasaddude the g915 has the best flat keys i have ever felt or seen, thats due to the thin switches they have and the body us full aluminum, the mechanics of it feel amazing thats honestly their only solid keyboard

[@MatrixRay19]

Hypio, I beg you! Please review the AttackShark K85, it's a budget hall effect keyboard with a ton of "stock mods", this thing is insanely good, it frigging thocks! It has factory lubed switches and stabilizers, and there is very little stem wiggle(to me at least), and the best of all: the stabs, brooo the stabs are something else, no rattle, at all, this thing is solid! Specs: 80% ANSI layout(sadness for me that uses ISO derived layouts) PC plate Silicone Gaskets(superb performance btw) KNOB North facing RGB LEDs, big sad(specially because it uses double shot PBT with not shine-through) Please review it, it's great for the price!(best bang for buck I have seen) Love, bye!

[@frytas93]

I had Logitech g413 with tactile switches and there also bump was absent. In topic of gaming keyboard do you plan review new Keychron Q1 HE?

[@velondra4699]

definitely not in the market for a keyboard, just here to eat popcorn while HipyoTech roasts bad keyboards 🤣

[@marcoang8359]

Hi Hipyo! What was that other keyboard at half the price of the G60? Also, cool headphones, what headphones are you using?

[@ABYStheOyster]

Replying because I also want to know! It looked/sounded very cute!

[@kambojsbTech]

Epomaker x Feker Galaxy 80 I believe

[@__Lachie]

@@kambojsbTech do you know what the one he said is a lot better and a bit more expensive please?

[@tjeerdtrekkie1030]

off topic but I love the ghostly "ooooeeehhhh yeeaahh" during each chapter change

[@Aezetyr]

6:04 YES. We seek cringe.

[@T.Lspitz]

Hippo, if you didn't know, logitech has many mice that feature the infinite scroll wheel(I too find this feature a must have) such as the MX master 3 and the MX anywhere 2 and/or 3 and the the non-gaming 502 and/or 501 mouse plus several others. Personally I love the same mouse you have in this video but my personal favorite is the MX master 3s or whatever the silent edition version is called. The mouse click is completely silent which i find really nice plus its a bonus to have in a work environment. I feel the only thing its missing is a small rgb accent added to it such as an underglow feature, that would be absolutely stunning imo.

[@STbrownprodzu]

Logitec can only make mouses

[@slicvm]

@18:26 What is the keyboard on your chest? The clear one

[@ste76539]

I have in front of me a 60% mechanical keyboard, made with premium materials, replaceable optical switches, configurable layout, spare keycaps in the box c/w keycap puller, switch puller and spare switches. It's Bluetooth (three different devices) and USB C. The keycaps are double shot and high quality. Nice configurable RGB and also features customisable macro's etc via free app included. Switchable between Windows and macOS configurations (with corresponding keycaps, i.e 'Option' instead of 'Alt' etc) Oh and it was twenty quid on Amazon.

[@Death_Saved]

Probably designed years ago and then they sat on it, thinking they can release it when the TKL sales slowed down too much, i mean on amazon its listed alongside the TKL as a variant, which also means it benefits from the TKL's positive reviews.

[@end_slayer]

5:23 G502 hero is an amazing mouse. Love the extra buttons, the software, and the infinite scroll wheel.

[@TotalTimoTime]

I actually would appreciate more companies dropping the Keycap/Switch pullers from their box. I do not need another pair, I already have too many

[@baronvonderg]

As someone who bought the G910 tkl wireless - and loved it - having since then delved deeper into the custom keybaord era and areas - I have seen the glaring disparity on quality that logitech has taken. The rattley keycaps - when I got it i was placebo'd into it because of the price I was paying and the combo that I got. I have since moved on from it (which i feel really ashamed to admit because I did love the keyboard initially, the low profile keys, wireless that never failed and the layout and tactile style of it) and then - Ive found myself ive bought 4 boards since, a mix of custom and prebuilt with different styles etc (switches, build material etc) PS - wish I had kept my previous boards for your Boardwalk - traded them into my local cash converters cus i needed stuff to fund - oh well there go the Steelseries and Corsair keyboards I had laying around as 'spares' hehheh..ahhaah...hahaha...spares....keybaords...hahahah

[@dronzer115]

Hipyo! Can you please make a video on rating foldable keyboards, good mechanical keyboards to travel with and traveling cases?

[@DixieLeeJunction]

Hey Hipyo, new fan here! What was the keyboard you presented at 15:20? Just started to become obsessed with my keyboards lately and I want to own my 3rd soon :P

[@WalkMrJ]

"I want a switch puller, a key cap puller" Custom boards have given me nothing but garbage. Thanks for not shipping more garbage with the board. "Look at the wobble" Yeah. Less wobble than the Wooting XD

[@guilhermedasilva8854]

If you are resting your pinky on the case and not on the shift key while gaming you are MENTAL (completely agree with the rest though)

[@potato9832]

I rest my left 5, 4, and 3 fingers on the side case when I'm typing or coding. I hover over ESC and ALT-TAB. Without resting on the side, hovering would wear the hand out quicker. I suppose it might be the same for navigating the game UI.

[@AnthonyClarkPaladin]

Thanks for this video. I thought that looked cheap from the first time I saw it. Thanks for proving my hunch right! I gave up on Logitech when my 5, and 6 numpad lights died. Lost the color green. On my G815 keyboard. I contacted them about it, and they said that since it was out of warrenty there was nothing they could, or cared, to try to do. Since it was just 'buy a new keyboard or else' from them, I went and bought a Steelseries Apex 3 TKL, and love it. Wish you could review one of these too. =) I like your vids. I also dropped the logitech mouse, and got a razor. Still has the rgb I love.

[@bashkillszombies]

I'm still waiting for companies to make a silent / broadcast keyboard. It's been twenty years since anyone last made one, they SAY they do, but they're bloody loud.

[@zatozatoichi7920]

You can build one anytime you want to. Just sayin.

[@SuperDominicS]

My dad had myme pick something for black friday last year for my birthday, and although I pucked the razer huntsman optical instead of analog, it's still very great* (besides the software on my 12 year old pc), the design was subtle with the name across the bottom, freely changeable lighting, binding and performance despite the awkward price, and the addition of swapping switches if I really wished. Logitech's board feels like a direct copy of analog board, but being nearly worse then one even I own. I think the main benefit of this would be how compact it is with the side wheels in addition to good lighting and maybe ok response times (though wired) or click feel, but still it feels like a dated keyboard releasing in the current era. My assumption is that they had ideas of releasing and 60% but forgot years ago and are just trying to compete with the better more sophisticated brands. I'm still convinced that they only knew what they were doing years ago when making stuff like the g502 and other peripherals back then. In fact their bigger older boards are prob cheaper and give better performance for the price.

[@ToyKeeper]

I have a Logitech keyboard+touchpad thingy that I'm pretty happy with. Not because it's good (it's not), but because it's super cheap, has amazing battery life, is nearly indestructible (since there's almost nothing inside), and there's literally nothing else on the market in its niche. But if I want to actually _type_ more than a couple words, I grab something else. The Logitech is only used for launching videos on the living room television.

[@Jessespresso]

I remember when optical switches were semi-new technology for gaming keyboards. I had just started learning about custom keyboards but didn't find any switches I thought would actually be slightly better for gaming so I made the mistake of buying a £210 keyboard from Razer (i know razer is one of the worst, it was just the software I already had for my mouse so decided to get one of their optical switch keebs). It was also the first linear switch keyboard I had ever had. I was so excited for it and I remember the disappointment when I unboxed it and typed on it for the first time. I expected the switches to at least be lubed as it was so expensive but it had nothing. I thought because it was linear, it would sound a little nicer than my old tactile keyboard (I generally prefer the sound of linear switches but this is preference and switches aren't the main factor for sound) but again, I was disappointed. I was fully coping with the fact I had spent so much on a keyboard I wasn't impressed with by any means but I had to stick with it because I was broke and couldn't afford another one and didn't have the means of returning it. I now have a Wooting and was so impressed with the keyboard I bought 2. There is 0 excuse for these top brands to be pushing such low quality keyboards both in materials and technology. If any gamers out there are looking for a new keyboard, I cannot recommend Wooting enough. They sound 1000x better than any gaming keyboard from one of these top gaming brands, the technology is so advanced nobody has been able to beat them yet (albeit not from a lack of trying, logitech got close but still no dice) which make for a better gaming experience and you have the option to dip your toes into custom keyboards with them as they are easy to mod, they have a hotswap PCB so you can try a few switches, change out the case etc etc. Their own stock keyboards are great as they are though so it's also no issues if you just want to keep it as it is. The input lag is almost non-existent (I never realised how much input lag my old keebs had until I got one of these) along with rapid trigger making jiggle peaking a lot easier and snappier. All for the same price as one of these "pro" keyboards It's not going to make you a pro. No keyboard will. But at least Wooting will get you closer to your skill potential

[@guessit5036]

I think the last time Logitech ever tried to innovate in any field was when Spartacus led a slave uprising against a Roman Empire.

[@BSEUNHIR]

I NEED that side volume knob in my life. On a real 65% custom that runs QMK, is wireless and doesn't have terrible latency. One can dream, I guess.

[@SmokeyOwOs]

The kendrick lamar verse cutaway was great lmao. Fun fact, kendrick lamar's disses are copyright free

[@FenixFeniks]

One of the reasons ive stopped buying new logitech hardware is because of the unending bugs I kept running into with their current main software. I even had to dig up the newest version of their LGS software so my 502 lightspeed and g13 macropad would both be compatible. The quality of their keyboards have dropped substantially since 2016.

[@castin5244]

I remember a couple years ago going into a best buy and seeing a hyperX 60% board that was all metal, had super smooth and solid feeling linear switches, and nice shine through keycaps with no hotspots. And it was $79.99....

[@Vivinnn_]

LOL love your roast! Hate it when companies come up with products that NO ONE needs! What were they thinking??!?!?! What a waste of corporate energy and resources.

[@Pchoorivals]

And even worse is that logitech makes their own switches supposedly “compatible with all of their keyboards”

[@Kurokeet]

The sad thing is for the around same price you can get: Drunkdeer A75 (75% Hall Effect Rapid Trigger Hotswap) Steelseries Apex Pro Mini (60% Hall Effect Rapid Trigger) Razer Huntsman 75% (75% Optical Switch) Wooting 60HE Logitech should just really stick to mice when it comes to gaming stuff, they got that at least close to nailed down. Despite taking a while to implement USB C onto their flagship, hid 4k Polling until a year into the products lifecycle, and put probably the most horrendous PTFE skates I have ever felt onto a mouse.

[@InkedJoyRider]

wait what was the keyboard with the black space bar and arrows you handed to sick josie???

[@Lucius4992]

Ironically, I just bought a new Logi mechanical keyboard a few days ago, and it was because the last one I had (another almost identical Logi, but without backlight) was really good, and still working after 4 years (turns out it just needed some cleanup with alcohol). The thing is that I'm talking about the cheaper models that doesn't even have Cherry-mx switches. When it comes to mouses I have been very disappointed. Overall I think they are abusing the brand name and slowly running out of good products.

[@ZanyCat]

"They say that it's terrible, but none of them have actually tried it." Isn't that just a normal day on Twitter?

[@MVVblog]

This company made a name for itself among '90s geeks, but back then, the field was uncharted, and every piece of junk seemed like a marvel. But today, junk is just junk, and this company keeps churning out nothing but junk! I can't understand how it hasn't disappeared from the market 20 years ago.

[@zodiacfml]

I could think twice at $19. Issue is Logitech does not have manufacturing with the class/style of custom kb, only mass produced keyboards that are used everywhere but Logitech wants to price their best effort where custom keyboards are.

[@g4r15]

One of keyboard i buy from logitech is the g13 at launch date. Still used it after more then a decade. They should make a newer version of the g13 imo.

[@Exotic_189]

WE NEED HIPYO TO REACT TO HOW THE KEYBOARD WAS DESIGNED

[@moltenbullet]

Honestly with the money Logitech has, I can't believe they haven't just straight up acquired a mechanical keyboard brand that people in the hobby already enjoy using and can be built to a higher standard.

[@DivergentDroid]

The thing is a dust and bug Magnet just going by how much space under the keys there are for critters to get into. It should come with a membrane keyboard cover at least.

[@cherrypotpi791]

I’ve been on a search for a good plastic keeb. You have mentioned there’s great sounding plastic boards that are better than cheap aluminum.

[@XJleBuSheK]

In the meantime, I’m now making a custom with yunzii al75, gateron milky yellow and moa pbt caps for a total of 105 dollars (might say, almost 2 times cheaper than this masterpiece), in general, I remember how switches in some their keyboard simply fell off from the logic board, so if this keyboard works somehow, this is already an achievement xd

[@Pamjamelia]

Earlier this year I got the G413 TKL SE, which is my first and currently only mechanical keyboard. So compared to generic membrane and laptop keyboards, it felt like a HUGE step up, and I only got it for about €45 because I couldn't justify splurging much at the time. For that money, it's grand. For the full price of about €80 that would've been. Eugh. So I have to wonder what the sale prices are like on this board, because that seems to be Logitech's whole thing. Put something out for a rip-off price so the sale prices look even better.

[@PWingert1966]

As any performer on Only Friends knows: "It's all about having and using the right lube in the right amount, in the right places to ensure the best camera angles as your audience's fingers slide across the key caps" Right? The Pre-lube of the switches is a fan service!

[@peppylspeppy]

Didn’t know hipyo was chill like that with the G5O2

[@samuelviden7412]

Nice Focal headphones! :)

[@marvinmertens5873]

I hope some Keyboard company makes a cooperation with you !😊

[@NOTCMF]

What do you think of the Ajazz AK820 Pro for a budget keyboard pickup?

[@user-lh6je1ge1g]

It's awesome! I got one