Clefairy was supposed to be Ash’s starter, but it didn’t test well during screenings of the anime as well as pikachu. The move “metronome” was supposed to be used for comedic effect, but this got recycled for Misty’a togepi
@Ursichan2 жыл бұрын
It was Clefairy. It was one of the first pokemon designed along with Clefable. There is also the rabbit hole of Gengar being designed as Clefable's shadow or Cubone being a baby Kangaskhan.
@SporianSummit Жыл бұрын
Also the old manga had clefairy as the starter, which adds even more to it
@TheMusicalBoy932 жыл бұрын
It would’ve been Clefairy, as Clefairy was the initial candidate for the Pokémon mascot, as evidenced in the first Pokémon manga
@itisfreak Жыл бұрын
Yeah. I thought this was pretty common knowledge in and around the Pokémon community
@TheMusicalBoy93 Жыл бұрын
@@itisfreak You’d be surprised, I’ve had numerous friends of mine think I was lying or speculating before I showed them evidence. So many of them didn’t even realise Game Freak even chose their own mascot contender, they thought Game Freak never intended to have a mascot at all
@itisfreak Жыл бұрын
@@TheMusicalBoy93 excuse my ignorance of course
@TheMusicalBoy93 Жыл бұрын
@@itisfreak I wasn’t calling you ignorant, I apologise if it came across as such. I was just trying to add to what I thought was a discussion
@itisfreak Жыл бұрын
@@TheMusicalBoy93 nah man, I just forgot to add it to my original comment haha you're good
@tonkuriihq81332 жыл бұрын
It honestly could have been either, clefairy was originally gonna be the mascot but jigglypuff became so popular it ended up being a sort of counterpart to pikachu in smash bros. so im really not sure lol but I'm leaning towards clefairy bc of its history and the references in LGPE
@garrettwimberly75992 жыл бұрын
The additional evidence to prove that it may have been Jigglypuff, is the fact that Pokémon yellow and pink were in development at the same time as the first Super Smash Brothers which featured Pikachu and Jigglypuff as the only two playable Pokémon.
@JUMPYCOOL2 жыл бұрын
That actually makes sense!
@TaIathar2 жыл бұрын
Unless the research shows that the game was close to deadline and they wanted to add them in last-second and so instead of making Clefairy which would have to be coded from the ground up, they copy/pasted Kirby's already-existent code and changed the animations to make it look like Jigglypuff since it would've been easier and would take less time.
@eglol2 жыл бұрын
But that isn't really the best evidence because Jigglypuff is iconic in the anime. Though, it's hard to know. But out of both, Clefairy is really probably more likely because of all of this evidence that the video had. Though, it's good evidence and an interesting fact though. Jigglypuff is also a Pokemon that non-Nintendo and non-Pokemon fans (or anybody sometimes) would confuse with... What's he called? Oh yeah, Kirby! Even though that isn't too relevant.
@DarthDaddy-ib2jx2 жыл бұрын
Puff was in smash because she was easy too model because of Kirby being in the game already
@SonicLegends2 жыл бұрын
@@eglol What about the fact Jigglypuff interestingly enough for Pokemon Blue is featured in the intro taking Nidoran's place in battling Gengar? And of course we know Blue is the upgraded version of Japan's Red/Green. One could make the case that for the next upgraded versions Yellow and the canceled Pink that it was a red herring. It's just such an out of no where thing that they didn't even have to change in the intro.
@nicholuasmcniel45532 жыл бұрын
It was probably going to be Clefairy because Clefairy was almost the mascot instead of Pikachu
@rebeccaweston572 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the directness of info in this video. Poketube often trends towards a lotta preamble and faffing around. (Which can be fine and builds community and what have you.) But here it's "Intro, point, counterpoint, conclusion" in just 4 minutes. And I enjoy that :D
@smithplayspokemon2 жыл бұрын
I completely agree! It's my least favorite thing about the Pokémon community! So I decided to be the change I want to see :)
@onetallpheeesh2 жыл бұрын
It's Clefairy. And honestly at this point I think most of us have accepted Clefairy as a sort of pseudo-mascot for the franchise in the same league as Meowth, Lucario, and Psyduck tbh.
@FrifiTV2 жыл бұрын
Subverted expectations in the thumbnail. Epic reveal. Keep on the great work 😝
@smithplayspokemon2 жыл бұрын
Thank you😋
@TheVickenStudios2 жыл бұрын
I really love how you get straight to the point and don't extend videos, unnecessarily. Also, I also thought it was clefairy all along
@EdsonIbarra2552 жыл бұрын
i thought it was obvious that the starter from pokemon pink was going to be clefairy because clefairy could potentially be the pokemon brand mascot in the beginnings of the franchise
@yagamigoesberserk2 жыл бұрын
This is wild
@mairain64432 жыл бұрын
I'm personally more inclined to believe it was Jigglypuff as yellow was made in reference to the anime. And as Jigglypuff was a recurring character, its more likely. Additionally Jigglypuff was in super smash brothers, both games being in development at the same time, which would have been free marketing for both games.
@sky8ash2 жыл бұрын
Yet if that was the case, then why did they choose to put Clefairy on the boarder of the Gameboy Camera in the japan version and not Jiggypuff? Yet Clefairy was the starter for Red in the Manga which would make more sense as Pikachu was the starter in the anime (As Ash is Red's counter part in that timeline) and make more sense as it would give something that the people who watched the Anime would buy (Yellow) and the people who read the Manga (Pink) That is actaully incorrect as Pokemon Yellow (Which would have released with pink like all other pokemon main line games) was released in september 12th, 1998 and Super Smash Brothers for the Nintendo 64 first released in Japan was January 21st 1999, About a 4 month different and also, Jigglypuff was an last minute addition as they were trying to add other characters to the game to give different play styles like Marth from Fire Emblem (To be a different way to play an sword fighter then Link)
@JakeRandall2 жыл бұрын
I think jigglypuff makes more sense seeing as they added it to Smash bros with pikachu as the only Pokémon in the game
@sky8ash2 жыл бұрын
Yet Jiggypuff was a last minute addition to Smash 64 along with Luigi (due to his moveset being broken a little bit), but unlike Luigi they were actaully planning on removing Jigglypuff in future games of Smash but didn't due to them being one of the oringal 12 characters.
@analogcaptures27852 жыл бұрын
"Pokemon Brown not a nice ring to it" romhack laughs.
@anupaghose54472 жыл бұрын
Clefairy and Pikachu are also really hard to catch in the wild in the kanto region (usually like 1-5% occurrence) while Eevee is basically not in the wild
@Matts_Views2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, guess ya learn something new everyday. Cheers Pat!
@LadyLeomon2 жыл бұрын
My disappointment ... is ... immeasurable 😤😤😤
@EliaszekEN Жыл бұрын
It was Clefairy, as one other comment said it was one of the first designed pokemons and on of the first pokemon mangas clefairy was the mascot of the manga.
@ahha63042 жыл бұрын
No contest it could be Pippy (Clefairy), don't also forget that its silhouette almost resemble Pikachu
@stevelucky7579 Жыл бұрын
I always wish we got a sequel to pokemon yellow, maybe Yellow 2 where we get to go through the story of Ash’s journey in Crystal.
@LethalBubbles Жыл бұрын
I really wish they'd finally swap Green and Blue's names back. They still wear colors that match the Japanese versions. The games shouldn't have to follow the manga canon from 30 years ago. If you play the Blue version then Red's name is swapped too anyway. They should've changed it when they released LeafGreen, not WaterBlue almost 20 years ago. Final Fantasy knew to pull the bandaid quickly so we've had 6 instead of III for decades.. She's Blue! not Green! T_T PS I totally agree @ Clefairy
@sky8ash2 жыл бұрын
Also, Clefairy was on the japanise version of the gameboy camera's photo boarder with pikachu
@beyondtrash16272 жыл бұрын
Really unique topic for Pokémon, and I really enjoyed watching it! Great editing, and I can't wait to see more Pat!
@granthelas44682 жыл бұрын
I wish they had finished this game, and released it.
@black42772 жыл бұрын
It's fair enough to say jiggypuff deserves a title Pokemon game as well as gengar.
@hharya_h2 жыл бұрын
Loving the videos Pat
@ShadowXeldron2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget about that one manga.
@Bandicoot7202 жыл бұрын
*Why did I watch this? I already knew what the answer would be.*
@potatoheadpokemario1931 Жыл бұрын
does the game files reference the other game by the color pink specifically? because if not then the other game must could possible be Eevee brown version, otherwise it's probably clarfairy as that was what they considered for the anime
@edgardeitz57462 жыл бұрын
1) Origianlly, if the girl had made it into Pokemon Red / Green / Blue,, *she'd* be tthe character "Blue", and *Gary Oak* (American name of character) would be "Green". 2) Starters team - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bulbasaur - Ivysaur - Venusaur Charmander - Charmeleon - Charizard Squirtle - Wortortle - Blastoise (Pichu) - Pikachu - Raichu - (Gororchu) (Cleffa) - Clefairy - Clefable Eevee - (Any type in existance, appearantly) 3) Someone should actually MAKE Pokemon Pink. Likewise, remake Yellow, Pink, and a *different* Brown (different from the existing hack) where the starting choice is based on Red / Green / Blue - Pikachu, Clefairy or Eevee?
@Mimi-San7212 жыл бұрын
So from what I've heard in pokemon pink the protagonist was supposed to a girl (there was no boy option) that's because the game was aimed towards young girls (I heard this from a pokemon iceberg video idk if it's true or not so please takes this with a grain of salt)
@hyhyd61358 ай бұрын
Interesting. With Metronome as it's signature move at the time, it would've been an interesting kind of gameplay for sure
@thekiss2083 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Can't believe I hadn't heard about Pink before
@eb.37642 жыл бұрын
I knew you were Canadian, and then I confirmed it on your profile jajaja. the accent is strong.
@williamfrieden12 жыл бұрын
Great video, interesting that game never made it, but would have been interesting, keep it up!
@finalgambit96772 жыл бұрын
Ash was orinally supposed go have a clefairy as a starter hahaha
@SWAATSFan Жыл бұрын
1st gen Pokémon has a snake made of stone and a huge bird with a majestic crest as well as a high voltage tiger on 2 legs, but yeah, fan favorites are a yellow mouse and a pink ball
@seantaylor424 Жыл бұрын
Compelling case for Clefairy, but I'm leaning towards Jigglypuff. Yellow Version was made in response to Pikachu's presence in the anime and the game changed good portions of itself to match the show. To that end, it seems more likely to me that following the immediate high of mimicking the anime would see Pink Version represented by the recurring Jigglypuff rather than the one-off Clefairy; there is even a NPC in the game that's a Jigglypuff that recreates the anime's Jigglypuff's song rhythm that may have only been added because a starter Jigglypuff was no longer present.
@Plain_Bread2 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t clafairy considered as a potential mascot for the franchise before choosing a more gender-neutral colored Pikachu?
@KreepyKat9112 жыл бұрын
I so wish we were in a timeline where clefairy got the recognition it deserves lol, of that unevolved trio it's definitely my favorite, and I feel like it's an oft ignored pokemon in general. Put some respect on that little alien's name!
@Aliceeyes2 жыл бұрын
poor porygon takin the fall silently like a G never complaining, maybe he should cross over to digimon lol
@JackFM0611 ай бұрын
Clefairy was a much earlier mascot in the manga.
@PalehorseThirteen11 ай бұрын
I've used a gameshark code to make my starter Mew in a gen 1 playthrough before. It was pretty fun, and I'm not sure Mew is really super busted for a starter. I do think Clefairy is almost certainly the correct answer, but I think Mew would have been the most interesting.
@Chris_Burner5 ай бұрын
My second grade teacher her favorite was jigglypuff because it reminded her of a pig and she loved pigs
@FlyinRaptorJesus2 жыл бұрын
I'd say it would be jiggly puff because n64 super smash bros had a jiggly puff character.
@sky8ash2 жыл бұрын
Counter aurguments: Pokemon Yellow (And what would have been Pink's released date) is September 12th 1998 while Smash 64 released date (Japan since thats the earliest date) was January 21st of 1999, a four month different. (And yes games can chance alot within 4 months) Jigglypuff was an last minute addition to Smash and in later installments they were almost removed but wasn't due to being one of the oringal 12 characters in smash. The oringal Manga for Pokemon had Clefairy as the Starter Pokemon for Red. Clefairy was oringally going to be Ash's starter in the anime before it was Pikachu. On the Japan version of the Gameboy Camera, Clefairy is on the Boarder with Pikachu.
@um_wilАй бұрын
petition to get a pokémon pink legacy patch for base yellow 🗣️
@HYSSTERIA2 жыл бұрын
wait you made a pokémon account?!? That’s so cool man keep it up
@iJosiah2 жыл бұрын
sheesh youd think this channel would mention the manga and how clefairy was originally ash's starter and not pikachu
@TheRealGzig9 ай бұрын
I agree that Clefairy should have been the 3rd starter, but Blue doesn’t use an Eevee at all.
@firehawkthechosen4 ай бұрын
Lets go Clefairy! It is s former mascot after all 👍
@pedroantoniomartinezcampos58592 жыл бұрын
Heey, Pokémon Brown is one of the greatest rom hacks out there
@drybones3581 Жыл бұрын
Also Pokemon brown was a planned game and was the Eevee version of yellow.
@rafilosofo10 ай бұрын
Ok, NOW I GOT AN IDEIA. We have that problem in yellow legacy that the teams end up the same with pikachu starter. What if in Yellow Legacy we could chose betwen Pikachu, Eevee and Clefairy? Ok, this would change to much the game and make it feel different. But it fits with the Green girl you alread add to the game. And if it is to much, you could just put the choise between Pikachu and Eevee (and make it don't acept the stone either).
@powerfulberry237 Жыл бұрын
Pink could be either Clefairy or Jiggly, sure, but to go as far as claiming a headcanon where Clef is the 3rd member of a supposed trio? I beg to differ Meowth was also popular and heavily featured, more so than Jiggly ever wishes to be, alongside Pikachu. If anything it's only 2nd to Pikachu in terms of total anime screentime. Its dex number is 52, a reverse of Pikachu's 25, and the 2 of them make for the popular cat-mouse pair. In gen 8, guess which 3 gen 1 unevolved and popular Pokemon got a Gigantamax forme each? Yeah.
@judas.isariot2 жыл бұрын
We should make a rom hack of it.
@TheSmithPlays2 жыл бұрын
It exists :D
@RangoTheMercenary Жыл бұрын
Video just runs circles around who would be the pink mascot like it's not obvious from the beginning it would be Jigglypuff.
@kylianthehylian Жыл бұрын
It would have been Clefairy as originally the mascot was supposed to be Clefairy, not Pikachu
@fredwardv69882 жыл бұрын
And Exceggutor was cracked in Generation one. Also, Jigglypuff is the best Generation one pokemon.
@GladiatorCollectibles2 жыл бұрын
It might have been mew
@joejack14522 жыл бұрын
Crazy dude
@clarktube Жыл бұрын
Now there is a rom gbc psychical on a website and i heard its playable on a gba
@xXValentineXx Жыл бұрын
we need a fan made game of it :D
@barretoleandroariel2 жыл бұрын
Clafairy was the partner of Red in the first manga
@Kurtistrent0072 жыл бұрын
Someone actually made Pokemon Pink Rom hack for Pokemon blue with gen 2 graphics.
@sky8ash2 жыл бұрын
Yet they went with Jigglypuff which with all of the evidence is very unlikely to been the true pokemon pink starter
@VG_Winch10 ай бұрын
Would it be too much to ask for you to possibly work on this as a ROM hack in the future? Would love to play this.
@henriquecallegas3229 ай бұрын
3:20 Hey, I didn't play this game, so I got bugged here But as far as I know, acording to Bulbapedia, Blue's team is tauros, machamp, gyarados, exeggutor, aerodactyl and charizard, so where is eevee? I only remember of the jolteon Trace (rival) has in LG Pikachu
@TheCbazzaАй бұрын
Not sure if true but I heard this would be the first game allowing you to play as a female protagonist too
@timg52262 жыл бұрын
Don’t clefairy is that starter in the manga
@katsumiskytower87142 жыл бұрын
ahs's starter in the manga is clefairy.
@judaiyuki55972 жыл бұрын
sadly pokemon pink was scrapped because nintendo did not want to make clefairy and jigglypuff look powerful 😏
@dr.toxicgamingmadscientist2 жыл бұрын
3:31 IS THAT REAL IN THE TOP LEFT CORNER?
@thrakerzad5874 Жыл бұрын
Maybe they could have done a white version instead with eevee cause it's normal type or like, like. A pokemon "fart" version for eevee instead to distract people from the poop jokes that "brown" version would have.
@antoniomorgado7468 Жыл бұрын
👍👍💯❌️💯 linda hermosa Pink✌️😜✌️
@k.r.9910 ай бұрын
2025: Pokemon Rainbow. You can not only choose your and your Pokemon's names, but the pronouns too. Oh and guess what? Team Rocket is woke and inclusive now.