Pokemon XD Gale of Darkness: A Bold IMPROVEMENT on the Franchise

[@JordanFringeGaming]

Thanks so much for watching! Let me know which Pokemon GameCube game you enjoyed better or have fonder memories of, Pokemon Colosseum or Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness!

[@NPC_5120]

Thanks for making Johto videos trust me it will pay off give or take less than a year. Chronicles is my favorite Pokemon anime and now more people will know about it. I remember being the first thing I got into cause of toonami ☺️ thank you jordan

[@JohnConnorOriginal]

This is the second video I've seen you wearing the wubby merch. It's a trip to think this huge content creator I'm watching on KZbin is also probably watching wubby with me during streams.

[@APeterson95]

Absolute legend for putting out so much banging content my man. Fringemas is going to be the best this year. Thank YOU!

[@SchneeWaltz]

Personally I liked the original Colosseum more but that comes more from my love for the Wes' design and the nature of him not necessarily being a good guy. Not to mention the fact it was the first time a pokemon game felt challenging when I first played it as a kid

[@madipup]

Pokemon XD was my first Pokemon game I ever played so I am biased, but its why eevee is my favorite Pokemon

[@DivineCresent44]

I wish the modern Pokémon games had the battle animations these had.

[@LunaP1]

Revolution was so close to being a third Stadium and did pretty well with model animations.

[@Danny_Deleto]

Same. I hated the dead stare animations in X and Y. There was just no emotion.

[@thelegacyofgaming2928]

Genius Sonority needs to take over this franchise. These games were literally peak of the series in terms of gameplay and story.

[@oxman619sd]

I loved both of these games and I’m still sad we don’t have a 3rd to make it a trilogy. I always thought when Pokémon Go brought in shadow Pokémon it was the beginning of them teasing a sequel.

[@tylerwhorff7143]

Sadly it was so heavy of a retcon that these games are never getting remastered 😢

[@2006Mercury]

Pokemon go and the similar marketing strategies that Nintendo uses is the reason there are no good Pokemon games anymore

[@alexs968]

Loved colosseum and XD and they are still one of the best Pokémon games I’ve ever played (and I played them all). The limited number of Pokémon and every battle being a double battle made it more strategic. Also the whole concept of shadow Pokémon was just great. It’s so sad that mobile gacha games have shadow Pokémon while they probably won’t appear ever again in a console game. Masuda once revealed in an interview that there won’t be another colosseum game. Just sad but consistent with being far from what fans want.

[@hitkid2456]

PBR is the closest we'll ever get, because Genius Sonority will in all likelihood never develop a game like this again. I only wish they were the ones behind Sinnoh remakes, and NOT ILCA.

[@lordmonarch2995]

Don’t give up hope, that bastard Masuda is gone!

[@matpet8418]

Both Colosseum and Gale of darkness are underrated by most of the community, unless you grew up in the 90s or early 2000s and experienced these games first-hand. They were different, some people of the community didn't like that they were spin offs. But I LOVED these games!! Seeing your mons on the big screen (at the time) and having double battles really did kick start the competitive in my household as well amongst my friendship group. No longer was it just powering through with OP mons, that strategy and planning was key. Different story, different ideas, it was a great break from the gym grind at the time, way before Alola. I still own both original hard copies for my GameCube and do drag them out of the closet every now and then, they're a blast!! Id you haven't experienced them, I highly recommend it! Great video and thanks for the trip down memory lane!

[@juniorgonzalez3900]

Best pokemon games ever in my opinion.

[@DarkbloomVis]

This is my favorite 3D Pokemon game, thank you for covering this! You're a legend for doing 50 videos in one month. I'm going to watch them all

[@michaelmayers3622]

The best Pokémon games not even made but it's actual creators lol

[@baddragonite]

Used to love this game when I was a kid, even with its limits, Also the Miror B Theme SLAPS

[@notimeleft1]

Honestly I still remember that funky beat😂😂😂

[@300kyuubi]

Miror B is the Goat

[@What-ish]

I played this game so much growing up. I know it gets used as a comparison piece with current games a lot nowadays, but honestly I would absolutely love a continuation of this series' story. Even if this one was a good finale, I think it has potential for more.

[@ThaMorseCode]

I love both Colosseum and XD, but XD was a really big deal for my childhood. I was born and raised in New Orleans, so 2005 was a major year. I first saw the commercials for XD while out of state, with like 20 family members packed into a small house while evacuated for Hurricane Katrina. I was already a big fan of Colosseum, so I was hyped, even more when I saw the release date was the day before my birthday. That excitement got me through a really tough time, and getting the game on my birthday was when things started to finally feel normal again.

[@NekoHime93]

I remember playing Pokemon XD Gale of Darkness at my friend's house. Because this game was tricky at certain points, she'd act as living strategy guide while I played. I also remember never being able to beat the final boss because of him having all Shadow Pokemon.

[@manoftruth0935]

A lot of times we tried to snag the shadows, especially the birds.

[@ShinyGaara65]

Colosseum and XD were excellent and helped make me a hardcore Pokemon fan. But speaking of hardcore fans... There's actually a romhack (technically an ISOhack) of XD Gale called XG: NeXt Gen. It improves EVERYTHING. It adds in so many things from later gens, like moves, items, abilities, the fairy type, the physical/special split, and even some regional variants of Pokemon! There's new trainers, new Pokemon teams, new Poke Spot Pokemon...you can even encounter legendaries! There may even be a patch in the future for scripted events and Mints. And if you thought XD was hard, XG is an entirely new difficulty altogether. I LOVE it.

[@BenMayauz]

After the"Angry German Kid vs. Jovi Part 2" between the Angry German Kid, Captain Falcon, Mr. Game & Watch and Jovi back in 2009, a leading a Cartoons and Anime Cold War between the Pokémon Horizons: The Series, Digimon Adventure 02 Reboot and the F-Zero: GP Legend in 2024.

[@roberttreacy8271]

Maybe a third game could’ve had Michael and Wes meeting and teaming up.

[@ryanlordjanie]

XD original idea was that Wes was going to be the final boss Michael has to beat because Wes went back to team snagum.

[@roberttreacy8271]

@@ryanlordjanie Glad they didn’t go through with that because that would have completely undone Wes’s character development from Pokémon Colosseum.

[@ryanlordjanie]

@@roberttreacy8271 he doesn’t actually talk at all through out the whole game. His character development is grey at best. They didn’t go through with it cus it was too dark.

[@LunaP1]

That would so be awesome.

[@thelegacyofgaming2928]

Too similar to fihgting Red at the end of Gen 2

[@TreesPlease42]

Couldn't be more excited for Fringemas! I watched last year's and had a good time :D

[@baddragonite]

side note: I love how your videos like this include the commercials and bumpers, very nostalgic little touch

[@peacefusion]

It's amazing how many spin off Pokemon games are actually really good on their own. XD, Rangers, TCG, Mystery Dungeon, Snap, PokePark.

[@babycatto173]

one of my absolute favorite pkm games to date! i adore the animations and the double battles sm!!

[@hitkid2456]

The gauntlet thing with different platforms and also the simulations were lots of fun too.

[@Lies_and_Slander]

The battle animation are the cherry on top. Currently playing Gale of Darkness for the first time Bit of a slow start with all the Jovi and Chobin stuff but amazing so far I hope we get a 3rd game one day. Just so many new Pokemon would be awesome Saving anywhere was a much needed feature Mirror B's theme syncing up with his pose is top notch The Multiple Shadow Pokemon in a fight was a nice touch and adds some difficulty I love using Pokemon I'd normally never use

[@WilbertBeltman]

As a kid I was super pumped for Battle Revolution as I thought with my silly child brain that it was the third game in the series. A sequel to XD. So I started playing it and it started with a battle and I figured "Okay it just opens with a battle" and I kept wondering when the game allowed me to roam around but ofcourse that never happened and I will never like Battle Revolution as a result because I'll always feel betrayed

[@sirferaligatr5066]

Nintendo should release Nintendo GameCube on the virtual Consol. Have Colosseum and XD the two games and then make a third game on the switch to complete the trilogy

[@KrispKestrel]

Coming to this post-Indigo Disk, I didnt realize how much I missed these games. The shift in difficulty and strategy that comes with predominantly double-battles is something i wish theyd lean into more heavily for a spin-off.

[@maccamachine]

I’m glad I still have my copy complete in box because it’s worth a good bit now

[@bch7905]

It's almost ridiculous but I guess it's because they aren't making copies anymore so whatever is out there is all that is and will exist until they inevitably make it available on Switch shop in like...10 years maybe. But when I lost my game, I was searching for copies that reached over $100 at the time (4 years ago), and by some miracle found my copy again after a move.

[@jforgiato3075]

I just bought a copy today haha been looking forever for a good deal on one and found a great condition copy for $175 no case tho

[@joealred4312]

Yeah dk oldies wants over 300$ for one

[@FridayAtElmStreet]

Incredible new video. Amazing. Good job 👏 got teary eyed at the end

[@dmaster5556]

XD: Gale of Darkness will always have a special place in my life because I got to attend one of those Pokemon conventions for the first and only time and I bought a copy a few days early before it was released. I also got the Mystic Ticket to go to Navel Rock in my Emerald version to catch Ho-Oh an Lugia. Fun times.

[@grydon6422]

Oh man lucky you! The Mystic ticket event was never even distributed in Europe.. and sadly I also never owned Gamcube and remember drooling for Gamecube+Colosseum bundle pack seen in some storewindows lmao. Funnily enough just happened to buy my first Gamecube just so I could finally try these games out

[@dannykun991]

loved this game so much as a kid

[@godw1ll99]

i feel like this game shows how pokemon hasnt improved in 20 years.

[@lastmexicano]

I still play this game today the Orre Colosseum is the hardest challenge in any pokemon game. It’s really fun creating teams to beat the different rounds.

[@ShadowLightMewEndlessOceanMew]

Shadow Lugia's other name is XD001 and yes they were planning to do more XD Pokémon like that. Good thing we didn't give Cipher the chance to

[@oyeh8908]

I like to think of Shadow Mewtwo as the unofficial XD002.

[@ShadowLightMewEndlessOceanMew]

@@oyeh8908 Nah XD002 would be Ho-Oh while Mewtwo would be XD000. I mean clearly there was one before Lugia

[@Zacman1123]

Seriously Nintendo, re-release these games for an HD Switch update.

[@LunaP1]

Or even make a third game (if not for this game, at least for a third Stadium game).

[@nightwing2032]

It’s not up to Nintendo, that’s the Pokémon company’s decision to do that. Whether to have a third game, remake, or a rerelease of the games since it’s a Pokémon spin off game. Yes Nintendo also makes up the Pokémon company as well but they don’t make every single decision that the pokemon company makes whether it be the anime, the pokemon spin off games, the movies, the mainline games as well as remakes, all of the Pokémon web series, the merchandise, the manga, and everything else.

[@thelegacyofgaming2928]

Pokemon Company does not work with Genius Sonority anymore

[@michaelnelson1127]

I loved this game growing up. I actually had both shadow games, and while I was unable to beat Colosseum, I managed to beat this one, albeit with the help of the guide.

[@ConeNore]

50 videos?! you're crazy bro, good luck

[@BrennySpain]

You just can’t get enough of Pokémon am I right, Jordan Fringe? It’s definitely my favourite media franchise ever too. As well as Rugrats. Both are all time classics for different reasons I think.

[@claymathewselevator8121]

I haven’t slept in months 😆 thank you for what you do Jordan

[@DrySushi]

Double Fringemas!? Is this what it feels like to have two affluent, divorced parents competing for my love?

[@jayebargeman]

I'm currently 100% completing Pokémon Colosseum and then once I'm finished I'm going to go straight into XD and I can't wait to give it a shot instead of just going off of what everyone else says especially sense Colosseum is my favorite Pokémon game of all time and people never stop saying how much better this game is.

[@Smokezillaa]

Love your videos, you helped reignite my love for pokemon.

[@nickynegron3515]

Imagine Game Freak saying they were gonna take the next gen more slower means next year we get announcement of at least a remastered rerelease of Colo and XD? Then later they bring out the third game announcement. Would be best times

[@BertoPlease]

WAIT... XD stands for Xtra Dimension? 🤯

[@Pehk]

Jesus fringe 50 videos?? You're too good for us bless you.

[@Ziostorm]

One of my favorite games of all time. So much soul and memorable moments. Wish Shadow Lugia would make a comeback

[@some_man_tiks]

I love this game. Played it before Colosseum. I'd love to see this come to the switch. Also, double fringe-mas? Jordan, thank you. I know the burn out must be real. Thank you to the editor too. Getting to see you Jordan in June at TMG, that was awesome. Thank you for all y'all do!

[@claymathewselevator8121]

Loved the commercials for this game

[@sasukuto]

So I saw you released a video today on both channels, but I watched this one first. I then see your into for 25 days of Fringemas and I get excited that your doing it again this year, but the revlation that your doing it for both channels this year? Hot dang! I honestly didn't think we would even get one Fringemas this year with all the hour+ videos we got this year, but now your telling me we get 2! Its a Christmas miracle! I can't wait to see it!

[@punkloser1465]

This was my first pokemon game ever. I didn't play a Game Freak game until 2014 with Pokémon X. Trying to get through that Orre Colosseum was and still hell. It developed my hatred for Gardevoir. One dumb thing I've done was reset the whole game became Gardevoir used Dream Eater on my pokemon thinking that they weren't strong anymore. But mostly testing out different eevee evolutions. Eventually I'll come back to it

[@zacke.1286]

I was spoiled by this game as a kid. I didn't even know colosseum existed until 2017 when I watched ChuggaConroy play it, and subsequently found a used copy at my local game store for about 40 bones. I like both for different reasons. I like Colosseum for its freshness, and XD for its polish. Where Colosseum took and made you feel awesome as you played it, its story was... meh? The twist ending didn't feel deserved and left me feeling like it was a little rushed. XD fixed this by at least setting up Mr. Verich as Master Greevil after you raid the key lair with Gonzap and Wakin. XD also is more mechanically fleshed out. Letting you save anywhere is such a relief! But, Colosseum has great character design. Both have amazing dialog, isn't that right matey?

[@ryanclinton841]

Fun fact this lugia had psycho boost instead of aerowing as his signature move

[@RespawnGod]

Colosseum is my favourite Pokémon game of all time so far, I never got round to properly playing gale of darkness when it came out as I was too disappointed that we went from a bamf of a character as Wes with his big ol' hover bike to Michael in his itty bitty hover scooter, but having watched lore videos on it the story is really good, I always hope to see some Orre region hints in games which mostly go unanswered but giving us an engine Pokémon that is basically Wes's bike engine makes me wonder, I love the idea of maybe going back to Orre in maybe a Unova game DLC and seeing Orre have wild Pokémon finally with it being terraformed and the Pokémon that would come to the feeding areas are perfect candidates for Orre regional forms imo

[@XtraLargerock15]

This was a game that I actually pre-ordered, I remember waiting with fervent anticipation to get home from Target and start playing Gale of Darkness. I think I sold the game at some point, but I still have the pre-order GameCube skin/wrap with the Pokémon XD logo and the Shadow Lugia

[@swamplinglvr]

I think my sister and I played more of this game than Colosseum, and that's saying a lot. Such a great game.

[@Nick2kX]

Notice at the end that the player used a Masterball to catch a Lotad?

[@AwildRia]

Been cool if saw Rui perhaps older. As a trainer with a Espeon and Umbreon. After winning she would casually ask about Wes or inquire about him. Passingly mentioning (hope) that she knows he will return to her, one day.

[@warlordwayne]

i played XD gale of darkness first when my mom and grandma pitched into get me a gamecube and a couple games as a kid then i later got colleseum of a friend i enjoyed both games alot xd for shadow lugia and the story and collesum for the characters i just loved Wes's back story and having Espeon and Umbreon and the journey with me

[@claymathewselevator8121]

I love Munchlax he’s my favorite Pokémon

[@midnight1978]

I love Pokemon Colosseum and XD a lot. They gave the player such an unique experience! I think it's sad, that nowdays the Origin of Shadowpokemon is pretty much forgotten from newer Players thanks to Pokemon Go introducing them. But in PoGo they're made by Team Rocket without to acknowledge Team Cipher in any way. I think that's a huge missed opportunity and it makes me pretty sad

[@300kyuubi]

I’m so glad my cousin had his physical copy and I’m also glad I took it when I saw it in the floor and got it cleaned up and it plays perfectly. Nothing makes me smile more than seeing my Flareon on the big screen in full 3D. AND I WANT MY SHADOW LUGIA BACK!!!!

[@mattslife7281]

Pokemon Colosseum #1 pick.

[@mattslife7281]

I even played it recently and used my old gen 3 team.

[@Nikita_Akashya]

I really liked Colosseum, but I haven't played XD yet. I do have it though. I just accidentally bought the French version. I couldn't really see the cover on the small picture. It is the PAL version though, so I can still play it in German. I just have a french manual and packaging. Oui, oui Baguette you know. The french title has the word Souffle in it. I think it was Pokemon XD Le Souffle de Tenebrae. No idea what that means, but hey, French. I hope I can play it one day. I have a Wit that can play this game. I jjst need a better controler.

[@bromeliad9683]

I loved both games though I might like Colosseum a bit more. Wes was definitely a fresh protagonist for the Pokémon series and I enjoyed that game’s story slightly more. With that being said XD was a great continuation and I liked that they made the Shadow Pokemon purification less tedious and added stuff like wild Pokemon.

[@calebgoodearle7365]

I just saw a copy of the game at a game store going for $200

[@151monka]

Fringemas... Pog. Hopefully you didnt have to get too overworked for this stuff.

[@Morgil27]

If Mirror B were to ever return to the franchise, my bet would be that it would be in Pokémon Masters.

[@TheStickCollector]

I would be more invested if i can actually make/program xd 2. I want to do more of that and put what i want into it

[@theheavenlydemon2673]

I really wish we still played as wes. Literally my only compliment

[@ZBatt1]

Great video for a great game. Sad ILCA couldn’t replicate it with BDSP in some way.

[@iivin4233]

I am so much more interested in Pokemon as a subject than I am in in playing the games.

[@jeansanchez5209]

this game will alway have a soft spot for me it was the first console game i ever owned and subsequently the first ever console i played i still remember my grandma buying the special edition nintendo gamecube with gale of darkness ahh it was fun to play it too bad i dont have a gamecube o play it again

[@Ewinn2000]

I love this game, if they ever made a remaster I would buy it immediately

[@KirbyChan]

I played XD first, and it used to be my favorite Pokemon game for the longest time. Still love the game to pieces and I really wish they'd go back to this formula :(

[@claymathewselevator8121]

Loved Shadow Lugia

[@manoftruth0935]

This and colosseum were the only way to get certain legends back In Gen 3.

[@Bigbuckgaming]

I got the free samples thanks I'm not an energy drink guy, but I respect that you rarely have sponsors and you work so hard! I hope it helps! Ps: bring back the discord

[@munchervideoshaha]

Wow the double fringemas yayyyy.

[@janistransbian]

ok, xd:gale of darkness or pokemon colosseum. which do i like best?........i can't decide. i love 'em ....both.

[@Kongumon]

I loved these games back in the day, but sadly I don't have them anymore. Meaning I can't have a Ribbon Master born in Gen 3. =(

[@TheVisionaryLeo]

this 2000 game has better animation than 2020, i do love XD more due to the fact more pokemon, more stuff to do in game, however, i do enjoy wes story more in Coloseeum better.

[@michaelfritz5816]

I very much enjoyed both these games. Gale of darkness, I actually managed to capture all of the final bosses entire team, in one go.

[@Pharoah_life]

These games made the GameCube iconic smash hits

[@altera1236]

For me it's colusseum, it was the reason I become a gamecube from my parents. One of the best pokemon games ever

[@willissudweeks1050]

You became a GameCube?

[@TheKrypticX]

Did i see Lotad come out of a Masterball??

[@mr.waffles8739]

I can't believe I've never heard of this game, I loved colosseum!

[@tylerwhorff7143]

This is my favorite Pokemon game of all time. With the Pokemon Go shadow Pokemon retcon these games are never going to get remakes and probably not even ports. I had the guide book for this one and I loved it so much

[@meganpayette5996]

I would love to see either a remake of both Orre games or a sequel that gives the player a female option.

[@Tuber89]

Best way I’ve found to do this is to mod a Wii. It was super easy and cheap. Found a Wii for 50$ and just used a microsd I had laying around. I found both games free online.

[@jessewofford3034]

Both Colosseum and XD were perfect. If only we got a 3rd game. I miss the Orre region.

[@birdley34]

I'm playing this now! What a coincidence.

[@cardsfanbj]

I don't know why I never asked for Gale of Darkness as a kid. I was in high school, so maybe it was around the time I started to lose interest in Pokemon after finishing Leaf Green (I kinda took a break until Pokemon until after Platinum was released). But I loved Sapphire, Leaf Green, and Colosseum around that time, so I really can't imagine why I never played. Unfortunately, copies of the game are $160 minimum on eBay now, so I probably won't be buying it, at least not any time soon.

[@jamesrobson8308]

I was wondering why I kept on seeing double uploads lol

[@10640404]

I think for a third game they could’ve every shadow pokemon get a full transformation like shadow Lugia.

[@gracekim1998]

Ooo it looks fun 😊

[@TheJkisboss]

This game is incredible. Loved it as a kid

[@dragonking46107]

the 2nd half of a great series

[@IconicShadows]

Its a very expensive game too - bonus fact

[@darkravenverse]

They need to give us this and other game cube games on the switch

[@FallenAngelHiroko]

For Pokemon XD....I just can't. The cringiest of dialogue that puts the English Team Skull (Sun/Moon) to shame. It's not that it's bad. I just can't stop laughing at it.

[@pokepress]

Miror B/Ludicolo would make a good sync pair for Pokémon Masters EX.

[@firehobbit3903]

I want a re release of this in the worst way.

[@shinigamimiroku3723]

I'm happy to see more and more fans (re)discovering ColoXD over the last couple of years. I really feel like they flew under the radar of most fans back in the day, and many fans today were barely old enough to hold a controller when these were released (or didn't even exist yet). My favorite is definitely XD. I'm no fan of dark, edgy characters, so Wes sits with Silver near the bottom of my favorite Pokémon characters list (just above, admittedly, the useless and pointless XY friend team). On top of that, XD shows how much the region has impacted over the previous five years, and with the threat of Cipher hanging over everyone's heads, I actually feel like Michael has the more difficult fight to keep the peace that Wes won (especially with the added threat of the "Unpurifiable" XD-001, which Wes never had to face). Also, as you said, mechanically XD is the more comprehensive experience.

[@EvilApple567]

I grew up with Colosseum, for some reason never picked up XD. When I first played it in 2016, I was pretty blown away and regretful for not doing so sooner since it felt like an expansion on everything in its prequel. I've since played it several times over (mainly thanks to the "XG: neXt Gen" hack that adds modern mechanics, regional variants/forms and more), and honestly I much prefer Colosseum nowadays. Yes XD expands on Colosseum in basically every way, but imo this comes with a lot of detriment. The most glaring issue with XD to me is the reworking of the "shadow" type. Whether or not you find the shadow mechanic more interesting in XD, the way they "integrated" it into the type matchup system is just broken and sucks a lot of the balance and nuance out of the battle system. This change is further compounded by the fact that mid-late game many (if not most) notable trainers have multiple shadows on them. Catching in Colosseum was irritating enough, but the fact you have battles not only dragged out further by essentially having to win multiple slot machines, but also have a blatant type disadvantage at all times (using shadows is less incentivized in XD due to the purification chamber) makes most boss encounters feel significantly less intentional and strategic, and by extension rewarding.

[@stefanklietsch5500]

That's a fair criticism, although if you as a player keep swapping out your team members and use the Shadow mons yourself, before purification, you can use the resistance of Shadow mons to thwart Cipher's constant use of them. That's how I always play.

[@K24_Rizo]

wheres the shirt from lol

[@JohnConnorOriginal]

paymoneywubby merch

[@ShadowLightMewEndlessOceanMew]

I can't really relate to the fatigue thing as the core games always added new content and mechanics but yeah Colosseum & XD Gale of Darkness are still among my favorite Gamecube games. And that's all i will say as asking me to rank them vs all Pokémon spin off games may result in a ranking that will have people wanna throw eggs and veggies at me. As for pitting them against the core games, i don't as they are spin off titles + they lose against the core games. At least for me. They are great Pokémon spin off games that should be added in the VC catalogue or get a remaster/remake treatment at least.

[@Otherworldviewer]

Loved these games as a kid but i was let down by the third i really wish it was more like its other two sad