This Has NEVER HAPPENED Before!!!! [Feat. Nik Airball]

[@PokerCoaching]

When would you call the clock on someone? A. Never B. After 3 minutes C. After 5 minute D. Or after……? ⏲

[@labeda101]

2 minutes for regular games or tournaments. 5 minutes is understandable when there’s this much $ involved.

[@sc1ence413]

5 mins is more then enough

[@buffetline2605]

C.

[@itskmillz]

D. epends massively on what kind of spot it is, how much the bet is, is it a home game, a raked game, a game with time rake, a tournament, etc... In a home game with no rake I wouldn't at all. In a live cash game at the casino I would give it about 5 minutes or so (normal rake). If it's time rake I might give up to 3 minutes or so.

[@bomblade15]

I've called the clock maybe twice and I was in the hand and it was against people that A) took quite a bit of time and they habitually call clock If I'm not in the hand, I never do.

[@nandisaand5287]

Its unbelievable how hypocritical Airball was in this hand. On the Hustler stream he REGULARLY berated Mariano and Jungleman for playing slow. When Polk was counting down the clock, he surely knew what he was gonna do, but rode the clock out anyway. He's just a selfish douche.

[@JazzHands2380]

I came here to say the same. Some people are ridiculous. 20+ mins for any poker decision is nuts. Especially with 4 to the a straight on the board and a call before you. There's no way you're good. It's an instant fold. No decision.

[@Darren88869]

Yeah he got no respect for other peoples time when he expect people to respect his. I’m glad he’s banned from HCL

[@nandisaand5287]

@Darren88869 He got banned? Why did that happen? I know he hadn't been on awhile, didn't know why.

[@sonnyhunt]

He got mad at Mariano for tanking with kings versus an all in pre flop. Which is pretty stupid because no one should ever fold kings in that spot

[@PickleRiiiiiiiiiick]

He’s an absolute clown. Talentless dummy. Why didn’t anyone call the clock?

[@untouchable360x]

"How did Nik Airball become a millionaire?" He started as a billionaire.

[@515coldfire]

He looks like the son of the king in middle east

[@manper421]

🤣😂 my least favorite poker personality. Bro's name is really Airball! Fitting name

[@Phillip-n7w]

There's a video 9n you tube about him Apprenytly a very smart guy from China Had crypto and investment person forgot the details Also hewas hugely skinny Married a very wealthy w9men family money I like him his personality, but hate think how many millions losy has to be close or over 100 million

[@Phillip-n7w]

5 minutes anyone anyime any stakes, common sense

[@SavagePoker81]

😂😂😂😂

[@YWQMD]

Dude is literally wasting the entire table's time, like he kept them from playing thirty minutes worth of hands? Like time is money here, someone should've called the clock on his ass.

[@leowanlpn]

People’s payday depends on him

[@TimeNap]

If im not in the hand im giving at least 10 minutes in a spot facing an over 1000 BB bet. And it's for the sake of all the players in the hand. I wouldn't wan to effect Tesla or Stache and if they haven't called a clock, I'm probably not going to either.

[@PartyMain]

You don't want to upset a fish, that's why nobody called clock

[@elduderino2738]

@TimeNap do you back people or know of any backers?

[@PokerCoaching]

Do you think? Maybe 20+ mins is excessive.

[@joey4523]

after 5 minutes i'm calling the clock

[@kendyjapri1559]

3 minute

[@vadimkozlov3008]

Not for that kind of money you're not.

[@kendyjapri1559]

@@vadimkozlov3008 for sure im calling the clock. They play at these stake so ita normal for them nothing special. 5 min max

[@sawmill035]

I think 5 is reasonable, though I think 10 would be perfect.

[@nollieRR]

@@vadimkozlov3008wrong

[@markrabel6281]

I don’t think any more than 5 minutes should be allowed for any player to make a decision.

[@PokerCoaching]

Hmmm... it's hard to determine. Maybe there should be a universal time limit depending on the size of the pot in BBs?

[@vsanden]

I disagree, very exceptional but it makes the game more fun

[@FinnBearOfficial]

If airball would use the same amount of time to consider if he wants a burger, he'd be a whole lot skinnier.

[@jimmyjambon9206]

Half the size.....it would cause him to equal his half a man personality.

[@ThePokerCats]

😂

[@AABiscuit]

😭🤣😂

[@S3CONDGLANCE]

Now that's funny

[@Billd777]

Damn, violated

[@DontTalkPolitics]

I wish there was always a five limit clock for every decision. I don’t even think people should have to be required to call the clock.

[@legendary.super.shannon9699]

This isn't a $2 sit-n-go on poker-stars, this is the taped for clip-farming nosebleed-stakes high-roller table. The players make their own rules here, because they've afforded themselves that luxury. For this amount of money, the same rules don't apply - not at these stakes. Air-ball took too long, however he also probly financed the dealers car & bought Doug a new watch w/the rake alone, so it's debatable 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@PokerCoaching]

I see what you mean.

[@hammertyme8392]

One of the easiest folds ever with a 125k bet and call in front of him.

[@jacobgoldman5780]

Against standard opposition maybe but Tesla is certainly a player capable of bluffing plenty here and probably expects Stache to repop with a better hand on the turn. I'd lean towards fold still but this is by no means an easy fold.

[@vsanden]

@@jacobgoldman5780 Tesla is a learning player the probability he had 89 is relatively high against 2 opponents....

[@VVeZoX]

@@vsanden he can also just have jack high here. have you seen him play? he is HYPER-aggressive

[@albertforletta1498]

@@jacobgoldman5780, even the most difficult folds should never take more than a 5 minute decision! Never!! 1 dollar or 1 million dollar bet, never more than 5 minutes.

[@chris2003ize]

The clown loves his TV time. I don't believe that he was ever going to call.

[@goodvibesslotspoker]

I also agree that he probably makes this decision in under 5 minutes if there was no Cameras in the room

[@McRuffin]

I’m an online micros winner (15bb/100). I’ve never had a pot larger than 40$. But I make decisions in 30 seconds or less, as does every online player. Sure it’s way more money on the line. But running through thought processes on a river card never should take more than 5 minutes. By then you should be able to fully analyze the situation. If you need 20+ minutes to make a decision on a river , no matter the money, you are not very good at poker. At that point you’re just in denial of what decision you’re already going to make. Online players would be frustrated at this table. The answer is 5-10 minutes AT MOST.

[@kc2150]

Funny, when online Players come to a live table they sudenly needs 5 Minutes for basicly every decision 😂 including folding 72 to a 5 bet allin

[@Forgetaboutit166]

hmm 40 bucks against 350 K, I wonder what the difference could be?

[@McRuffin]

@@Forgetaboutit166 good poker decisions are good decisions. A gto robot doesn’t care the amount of money at play. It only thinks in terms of BBs. That’s the reality 🤷🏽‍♂️. Yeah we can talk about exploitative. He’s played with him already. He knows the opponent he’s playing against. He doesn’t need 20 minutes of no action to get his read lol.

[@McRuffin]

@@Forgetaboutit166 not sure why yt deleted my reply but … good poker is good poker . A solver doesn’t care the money at play . It cares about BBs , ev, and ranges . That’s all there is too it . We can talk about exploits . But he had hours to develop reads. He’s not gonna get additional information after 20 mins

[@McRuffin]

Should we give him 3-5 business days instead?

[@GlenTheGuesser]

Live stream like that, 5 minutes max, control room calls the clock to avoid any hard feelings at the table. And whether a player normally plays fast or slow, all players should be playing under the same set of rules. So, 5 minutes max for all. That's my two-cents. Good video, thanks for posting.

[@tonygrant3062]

This the same guy who kicked off with Mario when he took about 1 min

[@lunchbox6576]

Texas Dolly in his book super system said never bet or call a bet with the ignorant end of the straight. Doyle would fold the low end of the straight in a heartbeat.

[@supersmoo7377]

A very simplistic view. Surely there are many times when it doesn’t apply.

[@Jivvi]

It's "idiot end of the straight".

[@kieranmagner3919]

Imagine being Stache here and having to wait 20 minutes for Tesla to show you the nuts after you already put in 125k

[@SerErryk]

Dude wasted 3 hours total of players time in one hand.

[@Trolldroppin]

This comment blew my mind

[@bomblade15]

I once got up to give the waitress her tip, while she was about 2-3 feet away from me, and they killed my hand. I was all in and the other person was tanking. It's amazing how often they allow players to get up, walk away, check their phone, have side conversations.

[@RoCkShaDoWWaLkEr]

Because it's a private game not a regular casino poker game.

[@bomblade15]

@RoCkShaDoWWaLkEr Is it in a casino? Yes

[@michaelsparks1571]

@@bomblade15 Be really funny if this was in a private card-club and not a casino... oh wait. ahahahahahahahahahahaha

[@RoCkShaDoWWaLkEr]

@@bomblade15 No it's not, the stream table is in the private back room at a card club not a casino.

[@bomblade15]

@RoCkShaDoWWaLkEr okay then. Still happens in casinos.

[@SMurphysLaw]

If the camera adds 10 pounds, they need to stop pointing 32 cameras at Nik

[@JMD319]

I guess I'm the only person that thinks calling the clock isn't the real issue here... How is Doug Polk (the only person that knows everyone's hands) allowed to come out from the announcer's booth, and talk to the players!!!??? There should be a floor person/manager to address this situation, not the person that knows everyone's hands and is also a close friend of the decision maker! (whom ends up making a good decision to fold). It's also odd that Airball would take THAT long, giving Doug an excuse to come out. It all looks odd. Doug is a good dude with a great reputation, so I would assume there's not foul play here.....but this just should NOT BE ALLOWED and/or against the rules!! This could have easily been avoided.

[@sklem3765]

unlimited time while someone is thinking. Call the clock immediately when they start fishing for info. e.g. Hey can you beat a set? Clock!

[@dennishover4803]

unlimited? #1. You are nuts. When if a guy takes 3 hours to think? You still ok with that? If the answer is yes return to #1.

[@blackmancer]

what if I decide to take 19months? is everyone still sitting at the table?

[@MikeJones-os5kz]

Loved this comment.

[@zaelgreen1670]

Maybe the stream should have time tokens like in a tournament. Someone could take 2 minutes frequently, or 5-10 minutes occasionally. On the other hand, they want to foster a casual atmosphere, so formalizing it might detract from the charm.

[@mrmanlet7385]

Just watched the Triton cash game and saw an absolutely amazing fold with a King high flush against Adrian Mateos's Ace high flush. Would be interesting to see an analysis of the hand.

[@mtbjourney8209]

5 min. Especially in that spot "What a miracle" 😂😂😂

[@sc1ence413]

After a huge bet and a call it’s always the nuts

[@vecter]

A call? Maybe not. A reraise? Probably

[@elizabethg-rj5tg]

its up to the people he's playing with to call the clock on him. if they're okay with him taking forever, then im okay with it... there definitely can be an advantage to not calling the clock on someone if it seems like they're talking themselves into calling.

[@PsyferInc]

5:02 - I agree 100% The actual play made by "Tesla" just induces bad beats. When you make it way too much, you often just take it down with a sizeable pot there. To go 60k, it makes the draws just go away being that it becomes too pricey for the risk. 42 of hearts folds all day. bottom str8 is just in bad shape most of the times.

[@quirkasaurussaurus2896]

hmm... yeah, but 4c3c called in front of airball. if the flush hits, he was thinking stacks. (still, it's an insta-fold on the river, my goodness...)

[@capoman1]

2:51 Floating head lol. Great editing.

[@MikeJones-os5kz]

You can call one raise with any two cards on the button. Low equity doesn't apply because in this situation you're playing the player, not the cards. 😢. Whenever a player says another player can never have this or that in this situation, that's referred to as arrogance manifested.

[@Enchilada_72]

Yep, I agree that someone who normally takes very little time to act should be given more time in the rare instance they tank. Wouldn't time bank chips resolve the issue?

[@passerby8]

Does "think long think wrong" apply in poker? I'd assume sometimes it can bite ya.

[@francisrodriguez2369]

amazing how endlessly terrible airball is. someone should set up a heads-up game between him and helmuth so the rest of the world can hate watch it.

[@Guill3rm0man]

I don't think Goofball is getting into another heads up challenge after he got obliterated

[@timothymokkosian9906]

5 minutes is more than enough time to make any poker decision on earth

[@jamesbaxter4920]

Never tap the tank. Airball gets as long as he wants. Which is why the players avoided calling a clock while they could.

[@cheflev9884]

Gotta respect Nick Airball! Unlike other poker streamers, he only posts his losses

[@keithmorgan742]

He didn't post this.

[@cheflev9884]

@@keithmorgan742 the joke is I have never seen a video of Airball win

[@Zach-tf2qu]

15:15 YOU specifically shouldn't be allowed more time cause you're the poker coaching extraordinaire

[@markd9318]

He doesn't mean he should get more time because he's a poker coach. He's saying he should be given more time becuase he plays fast the rest of the time and never stalls the game.

[@argsgsgsgnngndg9894]

If you're properly bankrolled, no cash game decision should take you more than a minute, it's just a hand like any other.

[@andrewunnasch2923]

For your info I play at the lodge all the time no phones or any electronic devices are allowed in that room

[@davids4063]

For live stream has to be like 10 minutes tops. I don’t think anyone really needs more than 10 minutes for a decision. That being said if someone normally does not take much time, I’m not calling the clock on him. On the other hand some players take this much time and I swear they do it just to tilt other players… those types once I identify them, I start calling clock on them really quickly.

[@Metskins_Poker]

I don't call clock on any pot that is a significant size. I usually hope someone does but as a dealer I don't do it since they could also be my patrons. If it's something that is ridiculous I'll call clock after a couple minutes if no one else does

[@CodeMonkey66]

The thing is, these guys know what they're doing. They don't need to think about it, they know what might be on the table within a minute or two. I say 5 mins tops.

[@williamneitzel2249]

IMO, nothing will ruin a Live Stream than a REALLY long tank.

[@nex8000]

It depends on the player. If its an action rec that never really takes long to make a decision, I'd let them take as much time as they feel they need. They earned that time. Everyone else is capped at 5 minutes for big decisions, 3 for small decisions.

[@johnristheanswer]

Was this streamed a year or two back? I seem to remember Doug calling the live catch up ?

[@bdafeesh]

For an understandably tough runout you should definitely give the person a few minutes. But after 5 minutes, what are we even doing? If you can't decide what to do in 5 minutes then another 20 minutes is not going to help and just waste everyone's time. Definitely calling the clock after 5 minutes for this hand.

[@Yoloslim]

Airball should have shoved. The first call on the river caps the hand at just a 4 so he could have pressured it to fold with the raise. It wouldn't have worked because of the nuts but i think that's the correct plat if he didn't tank for so long first.

[@UncleJoeLITE]

Yes, we faster players deserve 5 mins on the odd occasion. Not Airball. I see my "office" 101 book on your shelf. It's a good extension to Mastering Small Stakes. Thanks JL. 🇦🇺

[@ChazBrown22]

I cannot stand Nik. I’m glad he pays most of these guys mortgage.

[@PokerCoaching]

People probably love playing against him.

[@Jivvi]

The start of a hand shouldn't be streamed until the hand is finished. If they "catch up to live", just pause the stream and don't continue it until the hand gets to showdown. Or if it's possible to just show the start of the hand without hole cards, don't show them on stream until they've been tabled.

[@MikeGowan-xo9yv]

Glad to see airball save some money, when he normally punts…lol

[@royal_gambit_e4]

You didn't gave us 21 min with Nik Airbal, you gave us 16 min and 59 sec with him. Thanks for the 4 min and 1 sec spare

[@hammertyme8392]

I'm calling clock on airball every time.

[@PokerCoaching]

Fair enough! How long do you think he should have taken?

[@sawmill035]

When I play in cash games, I swear people (not in the hand) call clock on me literally after 1-2 minutes in big (like, 300+ BB) pots. It is infuriating. I do play in non-raked, paid time games, but honestly, it is disrespectful to the game and extremely selfish to call clock after quite literally 1-2 minutes on someone who has a big decision to save yourself perhaps 25-50 cents of time. Perhaps this is normal for low stakes ($1-$2), but I think its BS. 23 minutes though... I can't think of a single decision you have to make in poker that would ever take that long to work through. The longest I have ever tanked was 5 minutes on a random stream in $4600 pot (around 1,000 BB) and I correctly called down with A-high. After 5 minutes I had worked through the entire hand, come up with the possibilities, and felt confident in making a tough decision. 5 minutes seems more than reasonable to me. 23 is downright absurd.

[@YaasPleas]

Depends on the game and the players. Friendly game at home no more than 10 or 15 ( unless we’re all drunk and nobody cares). Playing with strangers for hundreds of thousands I’d say upwards to 15. That’s a lot of money(to me). 100,000 decisions should take time. Tournaments no more than a minute. Same with penny cash games.

[@llikeafoxx]

I think he should definitely have more time than a tournament, and definitely less time than it takes for the stream delay to catch up on this hand, but after that, then it's tough for me to say since I'm not in the room. I definitely would have wanted someone to call the clock on him, but I don't know if I honestly would've been the one to do that.

[@maxtheyouth]

wouldnt you want to fire at that flop being the 3 bettor? high perceived strength board?

[@ZayoBaio]

Hairball often calls the clock on other players for tanking 2 mins. So he has to have max 5 mins. On the fourth minute the clock has to be called. Even with such deep stacks.

[@Niksow]

Came to see a new hand. This is an old hand right?

[@kingpinballer242]

It depends on the size of the pot and the stacks. I’ve had a table let someone think for 15 minutes before saying something BUT it was a cash game 1/2 and the pot was over $2000. But in a lot pot size you got 5 minutes TOPS

[@junito1008]

It’s a really bad call from Stache !! 🤦🏻‍♂️ You have someone behind and you’re probably calling for a chop…save the $156K after the turn and that’s a win. It’s better to call with a flush draw because you don’t have a way to improve your straight. 🙄

[@MrDanmackem]

Tbh I was thinking this on the turn. He's never getting to show down without paying a fortune, the board is dynamic and likely to change on river and there is hardly any good cards for him.

[@dr.mark.b.hubble]

Don’t know what’s more surprising. Him taking that long or making the correct decision not to call it.

[@acescracked4395]

Am I the only one who enjoys watching players tank long time?

[@Hauntswitch]

I think this should just be a general rule where after 5 minutes the clock starts.

[@stormen81]

Most of the time I would say 5 minutes is good enough. The only exception would be for All-ins I would give 10 minutes tops.

[@BrandonCharlz]

Can you do us all a favor and at least link the game where you took the clip from in your description? Soooo frustrating...

[@TimeNap]

I agree. Against these 2 opponents Stache has to call turn and call on clean rivers. Gotta pay off the guys that VPIP 50.

[@bassmed]

Any tank longer than 5 minutes should be an automatic call, at least it would be interesting. Even an incorrect fold after a long tank seems boring.

[@frazzledazzle89]

" This has never happened before" Proceeds to show footage of Airball folding Me: Yep, this is rare.

[@ahmet13320]

Please review some hands from the latest Triton series with Vladimir "Gambledore" Korzinin. He had some especially fun hands in the two final tables he played.

[@NickTheGreek17]

How its possible the pinned comment is 2 months ago while the video is published 2 days ago???

[@BryanM61]

Well, he did say 'fold' at the 2 second mark.

[@canadiandave249]

If there’s no rule, he can have as much time as he wants. For that kind of money no one’s calling a clock. They should put a ruler on it though

[@Chino-bk9fd]

if they have sets would tesla try to get a call from Kx?

[@carltonvanhoy3999]

Moral of the story. play bad preflop hands and have to make a lot of tough decisions.

[@jefflanham1080]

A: that’s one ugly 80’s looking poker room. 2: Tesla’s not complaining and is reading a book in total comfort…..easy fold!

[@007420ish]

5 minutes is a very long time, 23 minutes is ridiculous

[@PokerCoaching]

I hear your point.

[@TripodianTT]

No pro would take more time than this to analyse this decision with a solver at home.

[@andyward8062]

5 minutes is plenty long - maybe even add a cumulative clock of say 15 munites per 4 hours of play.

[@Ares999999999]

Actually suprised he didn't snap call from all the past plays I've seen him make

[@68air]

5 minutes is more than enough. It doesn't change the cards and it isn't like the person wasn't in the hand from the flop.

[@gregorythemadrussian7461]

Hahaha I have never been the 1st view...awesome!!! Love the content john been watching for many years and just appreciate you good sir!! I'm a low to mid stakes player and have learned soo much from you

[@jaydee5447]

5 minutes in a private cash game is reasonable, no more. Put on the clock after 4 minutes

[@HoldenMcGroin-bp6yz]

Five minutes is more than enough for all players. 2 minutes should be the universal limit. Nick consistently complains about other players tanking for a couple minutes. Which is laughable, as he now holds the record for longest tank in a stream… Ridiculous.

[@rknissel]

That was beyond ridiculous, I would never play on a table with him again, 20 minutes? maybe he needs a Hold'em for idiots book, did he want to go home and come back the following day with a decision??????

[@chriskoshinski]

Why does the amount change the time aloud? So .05/.10 cents should only have 20 seconds to act??? Anything over 5 minutes in any game is absolutely absurd

[@timbuckingham6734]

2 to 5 min max old rule of thumb if you have to think with bottom hand fold

[@moneybythemile122]

Five minutes at Max you definitely don’t need 20 minutes

[@Ares999999999]

Haha. Tesla reading a book and waiting

[@philipberggren1823]

”He feels like gambling today”. He always gamble…😂😂 Tesla acting like he doesnt care is such a tell unless he always does that regardless.

[@spencerlee3201]

He can have as much time as he wants if everyone at the table is okay with it. But there's also nothing wrong with calling clock after 5

[@roamingthereal4060]

Standard should be to call clock after 1 minute. Clock gives you another 1 minute, live poker is slow enough.

[@markkabala2861]

If a player can't make a decision in less than 5 min,that person should not be playing????

[@JollyRogerProductions]

If youre playing for 2 houses in Ohio, and IT IS NOT being streamed, Ill find a new table before I call the clock.

[@oliversmith415]

For those stakes, and for the amount of action that Air Ball brings, he can take as long as he wants. Its a cash game in a private setting, if a guy has leaks or offers action the way he does. You let them do as they wish. If it were a slightly lower stake cash game, i think 8min max on river bets.

[@samwizeG]

In the lodge they pay per hour… so unless nick airball is covering the hour for the whole table then he should get 2mins max

[@Darren88869]

Nik Airball roasted Mariano on HCL for tanking 5 minutes. Proceeds to tanks for 20+ minutes here. I would’ve called the clock on him 2 minutes in bro should get a taste of his own medicine

[@James-n2m4l]

Sir you give Nick way way way to.much credit!!! Baby him! 2 minutes

[@AT-qm8gv]

I would say 4 minutes for airball to make the call.

[@TimeNap]

A bet of over 1000 BBs? I'm giving at least 5 minutes if I'm in the hand. Probably about 10 minutes if im not in it.

[@TripodianTT]

They should have timebanks and he should be allowed to use them all until the stream delay is breached. One solution anyway. Alternatively just hard cap it at 10 minutes (ir even 5 minutes tbh).

[@samuelwilson5465]

5 minutes at most. Hes definitely experienced enough in these spots to make a decision