Polearm Hooks Work Both Ways

#polearm #hema #fencing #martialarts #shorts

[@robinswords]

"I say, to him that would vse them, & strike aswell with the point, as with the edge, which blowes at these weapons are mightie and forcible, it is necessarie, that he consider the difficultie in striking with the point, and the daunger in striking with the edge. That it is difficult to strike with the point, it is most cleere, because the full course of the point, may verie easilie be hindered and tyed, by meanes of so many hookes and forkes which are in the Holberd." Giacomo di Grassi, 16th C. Fencing Master

[@nurgle-j5n]

Trve

[@YTPrule]

I'm curious if this is why Musashi, or whichever it was, said the Naginata is inferior to the Yari for always being on the defensive rather than taking initiative.

[@Sam-isnt-dumb]

Dark souls halberd

[@kingofthejungle5338]

I thought bro was having a stroke when typing but got to the bottom and realized it was just old english

[@killerbuono10]

​@@kingofthejungle5338 i think it is a literal translation of old italian or latin

[@LazyMaybe]

I never knew halberds could blow up! Thanks, robin!

[@KingNedya]

Woah I never expected to see you here, I love your videos, cool that you seem to like this stuff too :)

[@rowdyriolu1]

Mega man zero pfp, everything in my life is telling me to play the games again

[@Ry_yan]

@@rowdyriolu1 do it, you won't regret it

[@a-pizza-pie]

LazyMaybe is gonna start analyzing the structure of driller's impact axes and its impact during battle

[@jonathanjoestar3785]

Oh hi Lazy fancy seeing you here

[@QuDaRage]

Medieval "learn the matchup"

[@GalluZ]

Real. I have no idea why those weapons are shaped the way they are. Watching his shorts has been really helpful.

[@averageeughenjoyer6429]

Isn’t what he described from renesaince?

[@airthrowDBT]

lmaoooo

[@airthrowDBT]

Except you die before the opp can tell you to git gud

[@nss309]

​@@airthrowDBTnot necessarily.

[@myladycasagrande863]

Never underestimate the power of a pointy stick!

[@janelantestaverde2018]

Especially when it got extra pointies at the side

[@DeusExBrockina]

Feeling absolutely humiliated when someone uses my own hooks against me

[@DigiBlasta]

This soundtrack is burned into my brain from all the binging

[@aidenlarson9911]

Yes omg same. Was looking for this comment xD

[@reinhartnata47]

So we have polearm rock paper scissors is what you're saying

[@digitaljanus]

Isn't all combat ultimately just rock paper scissors?

[@reinhartnata47]

@@digitaljanus well usually newer weapons are upgrade of the older ones, turning it into arms race, from spears to guns to missiles to nuclear. But this upgrade of the spear actually has disadvantages against the spear

[@Specter_1125]

@@digitaljanusno

[@redninenine_]

more like scissors scissors scissors

[@Aa-dc2xu]

Fire Emblem weapon triangle lol.

[@melvinhilber4403]

That music will never leave me, even if i am not playing the game, it is in my head. Ty for the trigger😅😅

[@Sleepless_Sam]

Pokey sticks are so damn cool.

[@cozymoggele]

your pfp is cool c:

[@adcyuumi]

This is why I prefer pole-arms with only one hooking side and one pushing side, and not on the same side. You can twist the shaft to disengage from a hook, or to let a weapon trying to deflect your point slide off the pushing catch. If you have hooks and catches on both sides, twisting the shaft doesn't help you. There are so many pole-arm designs... but they aren't all created equal, some are superior for practical use.

[@mrexpendable1232]

Manor Lords gave us some great new music for the channel lol

[@Zero0fl0]

Def one of my favorite HEMA KZbinrs! Such a great personality, thorough and you're based in my home state.

[@puromax7787]

I instantly recognised the music, good choice

[@lancecorporalveteran0621]

Whats interesting is at the peak of later polearm formations halberds axeheads became much smaller the blades became very angular almost hook like and the spike became twice as long and overall lenght got longer and manuals described their use in formation more like pikes with more thrusting and very little striking they more often used to hook an enemy out of rank and stab him from multiple directions.

[@seigeengine]

This is probably due to a shift away from armor and improvements in metallurgy, no?

[@jungoder1085]

@@seigeengine actually during this time there was more armoured men than ever before Plate became cheaper than mail and lots of soldiers were wearing munition cuirasses and helmets that could be made on mass because of improvements in metallurgy Armour only really decreased in use during the 17th century and even then only really fell out of common use by the 1650s in most places which by then halberds weren’t really used anymore on mass, sometimes used by showy officers but most soldiers just used guns, some still using pikes those styles of halberds were around those styles of halberd peaked in the mid-end of thr 16th century during the pike and shot era and saw some use in the earth 17th century

[@seigeengine]

@@jungoder1085 The developments in the halberd they're talking about align pretty well with how halberds developed in the 17th century on, so thanks for accidentally confirming I'm right.

[@jungoder1085]

@@seigeengineno because those halberds were barely used in the 17th century the height of this style is mid-end 16th century Which is the peak availability and use of armour In the 17th century halberds were only really used by officers and that style was in use well before the decline of armour

[@seigeengine]

@@jungoder1085 We're talking about the evolution of halberds, not your desperate counter-whining.

[@Seinb]

We love the Manor Lords OST

[@dharmeshmistry342]

Immediately recognized the Manor Lords music in the background. A cultured fellow indeed. 👀✨

[@virtualkreator4905]

Bros gonna conquer Poland

[@grzybekgrzesio5759]

Again?! 🤕🥺

[@caiusactinunwise1412]

As a pole, imma throw arms. Bring it!

[@Kurochana]

@@caiusactinunwise1412 pole-arm perhaps?

[@oscaranderson5719]

polearm projections make me think of animal horn/tusk evolution every time

[@aaronsmith7913]

Yes. Triceratops had some interesting looking relatives.

[@Smalkey]

Hello, I was just wondering why aren't halberts not always steel tipped at the bottom? Seems useful not only when using this side to attack but also preventing wear on the shafts inegrity of the halberd when resting it on the ground during guard duty for example

[@robinswords]

Money & effort.

[@user-bb5ku5cr6k]

Manor lords soundtrack.

[@natejackorjillkate4136]

Robinswords, you've gotta be my favourite swords guy. I love how short and sweet your videos are. Straight to the point and information dense. Cheers!

[@earthrise2001]

Thank you, I just hope that I won't have to use the knowledge you have bestowed upon us on a lofe or death situation.

[@nerdin1696]

The benefits of "multi tools" is more stuff but the main drawback to them all is that there's more stuff

[@ineedabetterusername7424]

"A simple-headed polearm." Good metaphor for smooth-brain in an argument. I identify as that. Another advantage of being a simple-headed polearm is that I when I want to disengage I have a lot less to untangle. Smooth-brain for the win.

[@SamBrownBaudot]

A key point here is: The hooked polearm user _should_ have more experience managing their entanglements: They've been practicing with their weapon, they should know the pitfalls and the options. An even-more-practiced opponent should be able to turn this against them, by having tried out all the various plays and counter-plays and knowing the options their opponent is giving them.

[@lyooyiylklykyokyklky]

Sparring with poleaxes, I definitely feel this. Both hook on to each other, then trying to disentangle and land a hit whilst keeping safe is a challenge. We haven't tried starting sparring with axes hooked,but thinking about it could be a good way to go.

[@TacDyne]

Thank you for pointing out its possible flaws.

[@iffyfox9749]

I love polearms. My favorite is a poleaxe, the ones that have a hammer on the backside. But all polearms are just so interesting to me

[@JayvanX1]

I feel like I NEED to use this one day, but it makes me sad I never will

[@stevesmith9447]

The advantage is still to the halberd, or should be. Twisting the haft allows you to either reverse or evade any bind a spear can make. The halberd should allow you to maintain complete control of the engagement.

[@sageofold1633]

Polearms were primarily used by infantry against cavalry.

[@user-fn3ke1oo1j]

For a second I thought my washing machine was done.

[@Jordan.A.07]

Ah. So this is why Halberd's didn't completely replace spears. A good ole, "Jack of all trades, master of none" situation. Good to know. Also first.

[@seigeengine]

I mean, spears are also simpler. The best way for anything to stick around is to be the cheapest option.

[@graveltheblock5578]

A jack of all trades is technically the master of versatility

[@digitaljanus]

I suspect when you get to the really extended lengths of some pikes, you probably don't want too much extra weight that far away from your centre of mass. For a variety of reasons.

[@jungoder1085]

@@digitaljanusalso when a pole arm gets pike length you can’t really use it with any dexterity because it’s a giant unwieldy lever that’s also bendy

[@Watari_toppa]

@@jungoder1085 The cross-shaped spear (jyumonji-yari) of the Japanese Tabikawa-ryu is 4.1m long, but how is its operability? Apparently, a 4.5m hook spear (kagi-yari) was used during the Siege of Osaka in 1615. It is possible that something longer than this was used. Did these spears have an advantage over the Western European 4-6m pikes?

[@SomeGuy-gc8zs]

So I guess you could say it's a double-edged sword.

[@minerturtle45]

more of a double-edged halberd, really

[@Khornedevotee]

@@minerturtle45 YOU are a double-edged halberd sir.

[@sthiel126]

All hail PoleArms!

[@danjohnston9037]

So a Halberd VS Halberd fight could get quite comical ?

[@robinswords]

"Therefore no man may safelie handle the Holberd, if first he do not consider these two thinges, the one, (which he may verie hardlie withstand) and that is the thrust, because these hookes and forkes, are properlie belonging vnto it, and are impossible to bee vntyed and taken away, when a man would, the forme being as it is." Giacomo di Grassi, 16th C. Fencing Master

[@paulmarshall4793]

Damn, I've never considered the downsides outside of the additional weight... Food for thought

[@nekomimik8436]

Thank you for dropping this! I was wondering how polearm hooks and bindings would be seen and the options last night lol

[@Khaledali-oe3wr]

That's why winged spears are the best!

[@Drakuba]

the lesson here? Spear head on one end, halberd on the other

[@ProzacPreacher]

I'll keep that in mind the next time I am out with my complex - headed halberd 😮

[@MiloDunhill]

bro's livivng the american dream

[@gomjabbar2183]

That mannor lords music is awesome

[@anigah]

Halberd was my weapon of choice I'm Dark Souls. Couldn't get into DS2 partly because of the nerfed Halberd

[@lorentzdriver4048]

Remember, its faster to swap to your spear than unjamming a Halberd from someone's chest

[@kingjjd6679]

I know that background music

[@Immopimmo]

And that is why the spear is the king of spears!

[@vegivampire4616]

Ok i will be carefull on the upcoming battle

[@thisisliterallymemaybe9260]

I recognize that you are using the Manor Lords OST lol

[@samk522]

In other words, halberds are versatile and deal good damage, but have a high DEX requirement.

[@srsymon]

Man, I didn't hear anything with that beautiful Manor Lords music.

[@torg2126]

In short: skill issue. There's a lot of good reasons that the halberds where the weapon of choice for professional soldiers, aka people who had the time to train and drill with them.

[@crowe6961]

Yeah, spears are very forgiving. You have credible odds of blowing through a much more experienced fighter's guard if you have half an idea what you're doing with the thing, just not particularly good ones.

[@erichiller21]

Manor Lords soundtrack. ...hehe... I love that game.

[@marbellaotaiza801]

Ever trained with a trifork? I imagine they were used against spears in some arena, but it would be fascinating to see how it compares to other polearms...

[@RorikH]

Assuming that's another name for trident, the real problem there is that hitting an enemy with three spikes at once means that each spike only has 1/3rd the force, massively reducing its ability to penetrate armor.

[@marbellaotaiza801]

@@RorikH yes! a Trident. I just thought retiarii looked con on gladiator media and wanted to know more educated opinions on it.

[@RorikH]

@marbellaotaiza801 Yeah, in a gladiatorial fight the reduced penetration is far less of an issue since A: most gladiators didn't have nearly as much body armor as an actual soldier would wear, and B: having several shallow wounds would likely cause more bleeding while being less lethal, which would be desirable in gladiatorial combat as most fights weren't to the death.

[@theinternetguy33]

I hear you use the Manor Lords soundtrack! Have you been playing the game?

[@Patriot_Eke]

As a lefty spearman, I destroyed shieldmen.

[@OniGanon]

So... would it be better to just have the projection on one side then? A spear with one side spike?

[@DSG0805]

Great stuff. Where is a good place to get quality pole arms? Really looking for a nice cross shape spear?

[@techknight3753]

Ah yes, I will use this knowledge... eventually?

[@Kingdomkey123678]

If you ever do harness fencing it’s useful lol So a very small portion of the population

[@VivBrodock]

what I'm hearing is if I ever need to defeat a guard with a halberd bring my glaive with an extra foot of reach.

[@codeofclaw]

Nice halberd, is it custom or available somewhere to buy? Need to step up my polearm game

[@oyubatbold777]

This is very useful whenever i siege a castle

[@Greengeist05]

What type of polearm would be better for law enforcement or constabulary?

[@chess_piece_bishop_knight]

Ah yes, I do love the slashing and push stab :)

[@kandycosstick2344]

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[@brendanmckenna5391]

What company makes that Halberd? I want one!😅

[@JeTsTreAm_cAt]

Hello love your vids, could you please tell us where you bought that beautifull halberd you have I’d be really grateful, thanks!

[@robinswords]

www.kultofathena.com/product/german-halberd-head-2/?koa=20194

[@nxxynx5039]

Polearms must have been an arms race back in the day

[@Xerrand]

Manor Lords music!

[@argiedude3762]

Yeah, same happens with flexible weapons...added to the risk of hitting yourself. But flails are so cool.

[@codyneitte9801]

I prefer a simple two edge hook bill 😅

[@Suspect5494]

Where can I buy this pole arm?

[@qualthos1]

Training the Empire Halbardiers my Lord?

[@TheCr0oked1]

Where did you order that beautiful halberd?

[@nikiong66]

Sounds like someone's been playing manorlords..

[@roblentz81]

Exploding halberds? Egads, sir.

[@hamstermk4]

However, people with simple headed pole arms probably didn't have much opportunity to train against complex headed polearms where the inverse is far more likely.

[@neverseemstoAsh]

meh. armies being standard-issued with halberds wasn't uncommon, and neither was a nobleman or knight with a simple spear. maybe these things were slightly less common than the alternative, but not enough to count them out

[@ViridianAubergine]

Misread the title as "pol- erm ☝️🤓" and now I feel like an idiot"

[@Zephyr-Queen]

remember, your opponent likely has 2 hands.

[@lightgrove7751]

Mondays, am I right??

[@SweetuPatel72]

Bro is using the manor lords music

[@user-ji1gz3sd3d]

Music from Manor Lords, nice

[@tiefseblief]

Manor Lords soundtrack!! ❤️ I was one of the musicians (not for this piece though lol)

[@ulyaoth3579]

I like that shirt

[@AHersheyHere]

Manor Lord OST!

[@rhinoking2792]

God bless the Manor Lords ost

[@fueradelmeta]

There is one of those in the undead burg.

[@knucklepuppy824]

Cross-shaped spear!!

[@silverswordguy4191]

They are also much heavier.

[@andydragonetti401]

The cops took him to the ward the second he turned 18 and it was because he didn’t want to take a history test or go to school that day

[@manicandpedantic]

Weren't they also mostly used for crowd control and police action?

[@scrillthebeast2066]

The longer the stick the better your chances

[@Wolf_Entity]

All knights... Whenever u see a pole unit, just pick up your hand crossbow!

[@andydragonetti401]

The kids not safe though he’s going on trial but theyre setting him up in courts to cover up for them

[@ArcLucius]

How's effective against zombies ?

[@TalesForWhales]

Ok boys Ill ask. Can you realistically explain the practicality of fire emblems rock paper scissors format with their spear sword axe system?

[@neverseemstoAsh]

basically no. spear beats both of them, unless you consider very long axes like halberds to be an offshoot of axes and not an offshoot of spears, and unless you're using a greatsword of some kind but that's just one type of sword. axe vs sword would depend on the level of armor and the type of sword and axe, though some historical masters were of the belief that a short two-handed axe would win against a one-handed saber. the idea of taking an axe against a saber was somewhat popular in Poland and other parts of east europe, but it didn't really catch on, suggesting that it may have been more of an on-paper advantage in the end.

[@TalesForWhales]

​@@neverseemstoAshyeah but I want to see him do all the stuff and think outside the box with the actual items. No spoilers please.

[@neverseemstoAsh]

@@TalesForWhales why ask the question if you don't want answers lol

[@TalesForWhales]

​@@neverseemstoAshI didn't ask you. I want to see his answer because he has a fun way of speaking without acting like a the made up mayor of hema as some do.

[@neverseemstoAsh]

@@TalesForWhales man you're weirdly standoffish lol, sorry for trying to engage in conversation ig? have a good day

[@AtticusKarpenter]

So its skill intense weapon, to use its advantages and not let use them against you, you better be very experienced with it so halberds to professionals, spears to recruits and militia

[@wipe3100]

So, you are saying that your pole-thingy goes both way, and therefore it can blow. Interesting.

[@microwave221]

Sounds like the meta has been less fun to play for hundreds of years now

[@Bulwark_Bops]

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