Polestar 2 Winter Range, Efficiency & Charging Test!

[@doge3760]

I love how Kris pushes every car he tests to the absolute limit with turtle mode

[@KrisRifa]

Thanks mate! I think it is important to test the cars beyond the normal comfort level, in that way we find out how these EVs behave under 10% SOC etc. Because from experience, they do behave very different 😂

[@GAmbrose]

@@KrisRifa apparently a recent OTA update changed the car from reserving 70km in turtle mode, to just 10km Supposedly pushing up the overall range.

[@christofferravn4486]

@@GAmbrose "pushing up the overall range" - I can't see the logic. I think the total range would go down, if you cancel out turtle mode for a longer time.

[@GAmbrose]

@@christofferravn4486 I was wrong to say "turtle mode". I meant the range left at 0 miles range indicated in the car. Before it was allegedly 20-70km left when the car said 0

[@borama7845]

👍 Nice test. Good to see Polestar makes progress and is able to improve the car.

[@Tubolino]

I really appreciate your videos Kris. The "Watch this before you buy a XC40" video helped me to make the decision to buy it.

[@KrisRifa]

Thanks! Awesome and glad you found value on that video 😊

[@Chrisb8s]

I really appreciate that you show a little bit of the local sites and attractions in your part of the world. I know that it is about the car but it wouldn’t be as interesting if you did it in my area

[@KrisRifa]

Thanks! I try to break up the videos a little so it’s not just all hard numbers and facts! A little scenery and real world shots go a long way IMO 😊

[@thom-lov]

Awesome review Kris, lets hope the Polestar 3 comes soon too. Keep it up! :-)

[@KrisRifa]

Thanks! Oooh, yeah that’s gonna be an interesting car 😊

[@ShortCircuitPS2]

Great video as always! Just had my update done today so will be doing a few tests over the next few days.

[@KrisRifa]

Thanks! Kopling forward to your upcoming videos 😊

[@XLoaferY]

just commenting to boost engagement and give Kris some good vibes!

[@KrisRifa]

Wow! Thanks mate 😊😊 Good vibes received!

[@gery4870]

Superb vehicle, superb video ! Keep it up like that. Awesome content !! Greetings :)

[@KrisRifa]

Thanks you so much mate! I really appreciate it 😊

[@LeAkrail]

Love your content! Keep it up! :) I find it weird that your consumption test shows a much higher average consumption than what I have on my own P2 (nonPP) I commune from Oslo-Gardermoen every day, where i average about 90-95km/h on the 52km trip and my consumption in january has been between 23.8-24.4 kWh/100km and i even have a skiboks on top of the car! In early december without the skiboks i averaged about 18.8.19.2 kWh/100km on the commute! The charging speed you have had is identical with mine, hopefully they will create some preheating software, since the hardware is already in the car :) Love the car to bits!

[@KrisRifa]

Thanks! I think the higher consumption here is because of the rest of the trip in 110kph zones after Gardermoen with elevation changes. The part from Kolomoen to Brumunddal is also usually much colder than in the Oslo-Gardermoen. Remember, consumption at 110kph+ is much higher than around 90kph.

[@petelaycock2842]

A great combo of fantastic cars and beautiful Norway 🇳🇴 well done, Kris!

[@Roy-qn2ie]

Great i wanna see more about this car and see how it measures up against the model 3, thx Kris!

[@KrisRifa]

The next few videos will be on the Polestar 2, and I will talk about how it compares to the M3 😊

[@oertres]

@@KrisRifa when is it comming?

[@KrisRifa]

@@oertres Tomorrow and Tuesday 😊

[@CiprianOlariu]

Great to see the Polestar 2 content again and exactly with the configuration I ordered :) Did you notice any 4G issues with this update? Many people were complaining in the past about 4G and WiFi issues

[@KrisRifa]

No issues with 4G so far!

[@geertley]

I have my Polestar 2 since December and only had a 4G issue one time for a few minutes. Since then nothing and that is because they added extra capacity. So this was fixed before a software update. I'm still on the November update.

[@harsh8426]

Hey Kris, awesome content! I agree with you P2 has definitely improved & this is very impressive...especially with the new Feb end pending update... sorry but if I can give a small suggestion.. in your video you mention "it's a good weather today" but then we see a video with blown highlights...doesn't feel right..wish you more success...keep putting awesome content like this I am sure you'll have many more subscribers ..Cheers!

[@KrisRifa]

Thanks 😊 I got a new camera a few weeks ago, and I´m still learning how to use it properly regarding settings, focusing, exposure, shutter speed etc. I had my old camera for three years and I knew it inside out. It will take some time before I get the settings correct. The type of filming I do demands a lot from a camera because of the constant changing environment, changing weather and light direction, in and out of cars (dark interior to sunny daylight and back). Then filming my self and then interior bits, screens and the passing environment. But I do think the picture quality is a huge step up from my old Canon, so we´ll see if I stick with this new Sony.

[@berthogendoorn722]

I just wished they had KW charge rate not the goofy miles per time display when charging. I live by that number on my 2020 Kia Soul EV!

[@KrisRifa]

Me too!

[@kaustavbhattacharya3878]

Thanks for the updated review. I'm keenly awaiting the latest OTA. Still no sign of it here in the UK. Really interesting to hear your hunches about the active battery management.

[@RandomRockyCX]

When charging from 1% the voltage is really low, there it doesn't give the high amount of amps. As the voltage rises, so does the amps, and therefore the kW will rise also👍😊 good video 👍👍

[@christofferravn4486]

12:47 isn't every lithium ion based battery limited when charging from below 10 % capacity, to prevent damaging the battery? Solves the 'big mystery' to me.

[@omelvold]

Another great video! 👍 Would be interesting to switch wheels with a Model 3 without heat pump and compare the range, driven together 100-0%. These wheels are not only smaller, they are narrower and more aero.. Another test I'd like to see is how much energy is needed to charge from 0-100% and measure the efficiency based on that. You can also compare your 10-80% results. 🙂

[@abrahamgillesdejager6852]

Nice video, but the image is not sharp, even at 4k. Interesting charging behaviour after the first OTA update. Very good. I think you can state that the Polestar 2 is more a car than a Tesla Model 3. I have this opinion too as i have driven both cars.

[@mroek]

Kris, the car you tested does not have the latest SW, unfortunately. In the last one (which also updates the infotainment from Android 9 to Android 10) they claim range improvements, but that's not the version in your test car.

[@KrisRifa]

Interesting, the people at Polestar said this car had the last update with the range efficiency upgrade 🤔 But I checked and this does have Android 9. But tried updating it and it can’t find any newer versions though. What to do?

[@mroek]

@@KrisRifa For now, the car needs to be updated at a service point (Volvo dealer), but late in February, this update is scheduled to be rolled out OTA. The update at a dealer takes less than an hour, but you'd need an appointment to get it done. Perhaps Polestar can get you an appointment ASAP?

[@mattipoeka1]

@@KrisRifa The new update should also improve charging even more.

[@Tafsern]

@@KrisRifa Dang it...I was so hoping for this one to have the latest update :/ We need some real testing of that one.

[@KrisRifa]

@@mroek Well its their car and it´s going back to them tomorrow. I´ll have to schedule a another loan then 😊

[@MarcoPon]

I feel the Polestar 2 is a very well packaged car (and you wouldn't expect anything different, coming from a Volvo-sister), stylish, etc. But it really struggle a bit in the strictly EV part. Also you see the tell-tale signs of the inevitable (small) miscommunications that arise from pairing different sub-systems from various companies.

[@john-bjorn]

I got turtle mode at around 20% in my Polestar 2 (first time I experienced it). Started at 24% (pre-heated around 20min before start) and outdoor temperature at -8°C. When it reached 20% Turtle Mode got activated... felt a bit early but I guess it depend on the actual consumption and outdoor conditions. My average consumption for the last 1500 km is 31 kWh/100km.

Nice consumption! How heavy was the trailer?

[@Davetouring]

Interesting to see the range in the extreme low temperatures!

[@snusnusnus]

Fin video :) Kunne du testet rekkevidden hvor du ikke ligger i 110 hele veien? Oslo-Trysil for eksempel?

[@KrisRifa]

Som nevnt har jeg bare bilen to og en halv dag, og da rekker jeg bare mine standard tester. Men skal prøve å få booket den igjen så jeg kan gjøre ytterligere tester 😊

[@Tafsern]

@@KrisRifa Forhåpentligvis med aller siste softwareoppdatering 😛😇

[@berthogendoorn722]

Hi Kris, again we had high winds that would likely affected the consumption.

[@ddw8096]

Hey Kris, curious if you have ever drove the P2 in extreme cold(-30 to - 40c)and how it handles it. The reason I ask is because this is a common temp in Alberta Canada Winters. Thanks

[@volvodashcam]

I think the car maybe was charging so slow qt first because of such low SOC. Probably ramped up at around 5%. :)

[@lars-ove8749]

A question for you Kris. When you do the efficiency testing do you always check the tire pressure before starting? It’s not that rare to get a rental car or a car you test from a dealer that has way to high or low tire pressure. And depending on the rim/tire it’s not always obvious when you just look at the tires. To much or to low doesn’t make a huge difference but it do make a difference, that you can control compared to the weather for example.

[@thomasjacques5286]

what are your backup plans should you run out of battery? Keep on truckin.....

[@Chrisb8s]

As EV enthusiasts, I do think that we get caught up too much into the efficiency and range of a car. I know that it is important, maybe more when the range was about 100 miles, but now, just about all new EVs have good range for day to day driving. Imagine if range and efficiency was a major factor back when we bought Ice cars. We would all be driving a Prius! BUT, it's not all about that and I appreciate that you talk about the comfort and driving feel for the car. I can't wait to see the new Tesla Model S, I do think that they spent some time on the noise issue and with noise cancelling sound and dual pane windows and other tweaks, it will be awesome. My wife and I own a Tesla and a Volvo and while I love my Tesla, the Volvo is much more comfortable on long trips The amazing seats, make a huge difference.

[@KrisRifa]

Personally I find the range and efficiency thing with EVs very interesting, especially because there aren´t many people out there doing it except Bjørn and a few others. One of the main reasons I do these various range tests is so people can see that you can drive far and for several hours in a EV on a charge. And with the best ones, you´ll be wanting to stop for a break before the car has to charge. The more testing, awareness and exposure this type of content gets, the better for the general public.

[@SirHackaL0t.]

Tesla’s also don’t give full speed when the SOC is very low. But the low charging rate of the Polestar must be annoying when they say it’s supposedly 150kw capable.

[@wolfgangkern6333]

The only exception here is the e-tron. Everything else has similar charging curves. I was complaining about that point myself but in comparison with other cars that are currently available! the Polestar charges pretty well. Still needs a little fine tuning though.

[@Tafsern]

It has a 150 kW charger...true...but there are so many things that play into this that you won't see static 150 kW charging curve.

[@SirHackaL0t.]

@@Tafsern No charge curve is static at the maximum rate. It would be good though if a car was advertised as 150kw capable that it actually was able to hit that.

[@benoit6026]

Thank you Kris, but I didn’t hear you talk about average speeds of Polestar test vs Model 3 test. Were they comparable ?

[@tymanot]

Thank you for the test Kris. I like the Polestar. Nice car with OK specs. But I wonder why only Audi and Porsche seem to have a real good Charging Curve with a plateau rather than a massive peak for some seconds only (like Tesla and others). What is Audi doing differently...?

[@lrasmussen1457]

800v system?

[@schunkelndedschunke6914]

Does the M3 permanently use both motors, or only the front or rear motor? Hopefully we will see the PS2 with rear wheel drive soon. Cheaper and better consumption.

[@kevinn1158]

So by adding a heat pump, does it also help with charging rates throughout the charging process? Thanks for the video Kris! I love the design of this car. Gorgeous but it's too expensive and too inefficient. I won't buy a Tesla for many reasons but the ID4 and Ioniq 5 or Q4 will probably be my buy.

[@Tafsern]

ID.4 is more expensive, so is Q4 (most likely). So how is Polestar 2 too expensive?

[@kevinn1158]

@@Tafsern in Canada the Polestar only comes in 1 trim level which starts at 70k CAD. The ID4 is going to probably start around 45k CAD so right now the Polestar is a lot especially given it’s range.

[@birdbranch]

Hur är komforten i Polstar jämfört med E-tron. Är det stor skillnad.

[@peter1794]

Which Polestar is this? 2 single engine long range?

[@andywilson9628]

Hi Kris - any more news on the date for the P2 single motor??

[@drew9312]

Nice real-world review. Car comfort looks good. 260km/ 162 miles not great. The idea of not being able to use the initial charger is annoying, i.e. charger restrictions. Wish there could be more flexible usability. Then there’s the charging speeds. More work to be done with these to convince more of the people.

[@volvodashcam]

260km in these low temperatures and pretty windy plus highway speed I think is decent. Not super good but still not a dealbreaker. :) He could have charged on the first charger but then not seen the exact kW.

[@JulezWinnfield]

Kris, How can you sleep at night, knowing that Will Ferrell is coming for you.......lol?

[@KrisRifa]

Haha! I say bring it @will ferrel!!

[@josemanuelbienesgranito6216]

Hi! I don’t know what to buy it’s going to be my first e car. I am moving to Gotemburgo, this polestar 2 has preheating on the cabin like Tesla’s? Thinking I will need that in winter. Also en friend toll me Tesla are better but I am not sure.. anybody can help me? Its true that Tesla have en full charge in 15 minutes?? That’s helps a lot in long distance travels

[@Star14trek]

Would stop Audi Etron for polestar 2?

[@volvo407pejo]

Basically you did 260 km with a single charge with Polestar 2. With Audi E-tron you did 360 km with single charge. On which car the battery is bigger? Should those two cars have the same range?

[@KrisRifa]

You are comparing the wrong video with this Polestar 2, in the similar test the E-Tron does around 230km if I remember correctly.

[@volvo407pejo]

Probably I comparing with wrong video. I compared with this video: I Tried driving an Audi E-Tron 400km on a SINGLE charge in the freezing cold! This Is How Far I Got! So 230 km range with Audi, so let say those two cars have almost the same range, I am happy with that.

[@abraxastulammo9940]

Put the charge speed neck to neck with ID.4!

[@steffo76]

What SW version does that car have?

[@alanmcdade2459]

I would guess they loan them out for 2 days is because Polestar is a very small company and have a lot of requests for their cars

[@jadziadax8658]

Didn't you drive this car considerably faster than the e-tron or the TM3?

[@KrisRifa]

Nope, same route and same speed 😊

[@jadziadax8658]

@@KrisRifa Damn I compared it to the wrong video :)

[@KrisRifa]

Aha 🙈

[@doomslayer4276]

ive a question the avarage life of a mobile battery is 3 yrs and these cars use the same battery(Li ion) does it mean the battery need to be changed every 3yrs

[@davetravels9273]

No, these batteries have a buffer, so you never charge them fully, and they have advanced battery management systems. Generally, figure 5% segregation per 100,000 km, so generally you won't start to really notice it until after 300,000 km. HOWEVER, this heavily depends on the battery chemistry, cooling system, climate, and how often you fast charge. If you only charge via a dc fast charger, expect higher degradation etc. There are a lot of factors, but so far, most newer EVs with active liquid cooling will not have any meaningful degradation for the first 200-300k kms.

[@jadziadax8658]

My i3S is now 2 years and 11 months old about 60000km (should be around 300 cycles). The remaining capacity is currently 92.6Ah down from a rated 94Ah. The reported "health" is still well over 90%. Also, the warranty on the battery (which means 70% capacity available) is 8 years or 160000km.

[@_TrueDesire_]

@@jadziadax8658 my i3 2017 only has 8 years/ 100,000 KM :/

[@jadziadax8658]

@@_TrueDesire_ Yeah I think they increased it at some point. It also seems to differ between markets. Anyway, the 94Ah appears to extremely robust and will probably live at least 350000km from current data.

[@_TrueDesire_]

@@jadziadax8658 just checked my service menu, it's at 27,7 kWh :) it will last me another 2-3 years without problems before i will look at something else.

[@DereckBreuning]

Quality > Efficiency

[@StarAZ]

Just test drove the 2. It blows the Model 3 out of the water IMO

[@volvo407pejo]

How many kilometres is the range of the car?

[@Thelavern86]

Men til tross at model 3 går lenger.. Den ser ut som en dass i forhold til polestar 2

[@KrisRifa]

Du sier noe der 🙈

[@nova44]

Classic Audi driver hand position on the wheel 😅

[@gargamelandrudmila8078]

Tesla will have the 4680's from January 2022. Everyone will be fucked. Tesla's will be a good 25% cheaper with the same range. Hopefully with way less range discrepancy.

[@h34p]

The question on the thumbnail was: "Better than Tesla?" The answer is no. You're welcome.

[@bistduschlau9889]

The question was answered in the video on 3:24.

[@h34p]

​@@bistduschlau9889 so you think that the noise is what is the point in EVs? ok. I assume you don't own an EV?

[@bistduschlau9889]

@@h34p Sure, I own an EV. For everybody there are different aspects for an EV. Low noise is one of them.

[@alexander5029]

​@@h34p I own an ev, but I don´t need long range every day but I prefer a better build car all day. So better than Tesla, yes.

[@h34p]

@@alexander5029 interesting, and never heard before if i'm honest. we own a model 3 and a p2. neighbour owns a p2 and a zoe. we all agree that the model 3 is way superior. but maybe that's just us.