Police interview landlord who said Lori Vallow Daybell had a pool party after her husbands killing

[@ackhak]

This is the first interview in this case where the person being interviewed sounds normal, sane, and rational.

[@abundance8074]

If you listen to the Adam Cox interview and the one where they are talking to Alex Cox's first wife, those two sound decent as well.

[@hannannah1uk]

This is what normal sounds like. How do the police not go crazy listening to all this.

[@peggyalford1636]

❤

[@lyndawadsworth8572]

Adam Cox was rational and so was Brandon. Her actions allienated her whole family from Adam to all the cousins Uncles and Aunts. She wouldn't give the kids up because she wanted to collect their SS payments. Kay tried to get JJ and Tyle.. Her sister said she would have taken them.

[@rehab5355]

Summer's call was #1 Gut Wrenching😭...This is the Male Version of Summer's Call😔😪😒

[@Investigativebean]

Charles was a 60 year old stud. The man had an awful lot going for him, including excellent discernment there in the end. He was still a caring, loving father, and even husband to that monster. He was 100% right, and on point. He tried to stop it all, and no one listened to him. It’s a really rotten double standard. He was not the woman in the situation, so...I am so, so glad that he changed his life insurance policy. It brings me a lot of glee that Lori had to learn that the hard way. It brings me even more to see her in prison. Charles was right, she is “the destroyer of lives.”

[@carolcrawford2223]

Totally agree awful situation to have happened Charles and the children did not get the help they so desperately needed.hope those 2 involved get what they so deserve ruining lives for their own gains.rip Charles tammy and jj.justice is coming

[@lindahorkey9517]

I said this all time ..”people are the real monsters “... these monsters need to go jail for the rest of her miserable life ..

[@nelle9118]

He was handsome too..

[@lindahorkey9517]

@Tiny Princess OKAY 👌 whatever?? 😂

[@bswogger4656]

Very glad he changed his life insurance to his sweet sister too! Nobody would listen to him because most of our “services” are not trained or informed. A man documented of running from CPS in 2001 was allowed to pretend he was my “roommate” in 2012 and tried to do to me what Laurie husband tried 24 hour mental evaluation. I told the NP Andrew was not my roommate ran from CPS when accuse of raping 10 year old step daughter, no follow up, but it documented in my medical chart as my therapist called for me. Ashley was her name. Today is her Birthday. She was murdered 5-18-2001. Those nasty’s believe who they want, no checking, nothing. Andrew was able to steal from me all my possessions and about $4,000 in credit card debt, bunch of cash. Not able to fix as he diverted medical care to, easy to behavioral health. They usually help the perpetrators as I was a nurse I have met hundreds of victims now. This family has detail with mind games on a major level. Very sad they did not take that women for 24 hour observation but they believe who they want, not fact or the court it looks like. Wrongful death for not having her taking to urgent psychiatric Care UPC as the court order was written. Chandler police only heard Charlie talk about money but did not listen to what he was saying. Tragic! Wrongful death would be only way Charlie family could get Justice for that Failure.

[@crysweezy]

i can't believe that alex and lori had initially been able to get away with this. i'm so glad that kay got the life insurance. charles made such a smart decision. his life ended too soon! charles needs justice!!

[@ralphmajor1947]

It's kinda too bad she didn't know that it was changed before hand but not sure if it would have stopped the deaths of Tammy or the kids 🤔 😭? They also wanted the insurance money for her sister from the attempted murder of Brandon Bourdo 🤔?

[@bellepay9820]

I wish he had told her that he had switched the life insurance though, maybe she wouldn't have actually done it.

[@ralphmajor1947]

@@bellepay9820 Charles confronted Tami and IMO they got desperate and were counting on Charles life insurance?

[@SHARON.I]

POLICE DIDN'T QUESTION THE NEIGHBORS??? WTF

[@lindamaemullins5151]

Ikr 😞

[@cindyluwho9041]

I would like to know who all was at the pool party. Disgusting!

[@copper4441]

No the one came over to talk to the cop on scene the cop told him to go away smh

[@JaneDoe-ij4ls]

Yikes. So grateful Kay put out the missing person report for JJ. I think she was the person who brought the childrens' fate to light.

[@lovepet4565]

Always leave it to grandma! They are the hidden heros for Children

[@ramonayoung4836]

@@lovepet4565 yes we are 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

[@user_angelmum]

100% If it wasn't for JJ's grand mother they would have gotten away with murdering him ..

[@ZeldaZelda-RichesToRags]

You know the type of people the Woodcocks are? ....theyre the type of folks that If Lori offered to give them JJ back, they would have written her a check for whatever amount Lori wanted...and I'm sure they'd include Tylee in the exchange...these folks are perfect example of how God wants people to behave....id give anything to have had a family like them...sad part is, THIS is going to get worse with their having to listen to the lies and bullschips flying from the monsters....we must PRAY WITH ALL our hearts for the LORD keeping them lifted up before the LORD...its not good on the immune system having such a tragic ordeal...and JJs bio parents lost their son twice...people taking drugs do so for a reason we're never going to understand, why one takes drugs to help alter their inner pain...so PLEASE don't judge JJs bio parents...im sure they're hurting and perhaps blaming themselves...i have a loved one who takes drugs, drinks and out of control issues....people fingerpoint, judge them but have NO idea WHAT they suffered being severely abused by pedophile CHURCH LEADER. So please remember this when you start passing judgement

[@ZeldaZelda-RichesToRags]

BTW...we adopted, raised 2 throw away children, products of drug addicts...but we NEVER EVER REFERRED TO THEM as Drug Babies...those thoughts NEVER crossed our minds

[@maggiehogland1891]

They didn’t speak until the end of December- it was not until Kay really presses it until Chandler PD picks up the ball they dropped when Charles was murdered. SOBs.

[@holden3]

Yep !

[@normac9931]

Yes i agree. Kay is a very strong woman- she was the driving force behind getting justice for Charles- plus she pushed the wellness check on the kids relentlessly. I feel like if it werent for her- the Daybell/Vallow circus show would still be traveling across the US

[@Lynniescorner]

In my opinion, the CPD dropped the ball from the start, from Feb. when she locked him out of the house.

[@sind3138]

@@Lynniescorner Plus they had a psyche order to pick her up to be evaluated, which LE not only didn’t take seriously or even attempted to serve, BUT also told her several ways to avoid it. It’s absolutely infuriating. Charles’ sons would’ve had a strong civil case against LE if they hadn’t let it prescribe.

[@Lynniescorner]

@Jess Stone I agree. I've thought this all along since these details started coming out. Kept asking myself how they could have let it happened. Even the social worker from the issues with Joe had troubles with her. So sad.

[@Findingtruth569]

Justice for Charles, Tylee JJ and Tammy.

[@kaydencegauthier3857]

Hopefully Joseph Ryan some people keep forgetting him

[@onegirlrev]

Got a long line of dead people pacing the halls wanting justice for what this sick woman did.

[@kimbibbs5700]

@@kaydencegauthier3857 yes!! I think about him all the time!!

[@aprilsheppard556]

Even though he may be guilty, Alex Cox also had a mysterious death...

[@stevewalther2293]

@@aprilsheppard556 I believe he killed himself.

[@annedrury1748]

I’ll say it again Chandler police failed Charles, Alex had no serious baseball bat injuries. Had they arrested Alex on suspicion of murder could Tylee and JJ be alive rhetorical we will never know. The cops who initially responded should be fired dereliction of duty in their investigation of his murder to never work as cops again.

[@sisaroos]

After the popo arrive and Questioning the incident, it was like they were having a normal conversation & I kept waiting for CPD To tell Alex to pull up a chair for beer 30.

[@Deer548]

Completely agree!! Everyone on this case at the time should be fired and prevented from ever being cops/ detectives. They were so grossly negligent it boggles the mind.

[@bugsea54]

Lori and Alex should have both been arrested. Then 3 people would still be alive!

[@Cindy-up2oj]

I totally agree with you. This guy controlled the entire incident.

[@jennifer-annehunter2827]

If the police had taken Charles seriously in January then he would still be alive ....

[@அவானிஉயர்ந்தது]

You can hear the disappointment, helplessness and sadness in this guy’s voice

[@bettyir4302]

Well, isn't that special. CPD didn't bother talking to the landlord or anyone until January through April after everyone was dead and public pressure forced their hands.

[@laurenvega-cruz4718]

Sad to say but it's always the way.

[@mary9983]

Exactly. #ACAB

[@mickeykyker4837]

Absolutely correct, when public pressure forced them. Isn't that pathetic. Even after Charles begging them for help. Sadly others had to die because of their complacency, and i really want to say stupidity. Im not against police officers. I have two in my family that i love and respect very much, but this crew! Wow !

[@atfaafo]

they didn't bother checking Lori's hands for gun shot residue either - and that after Charles had stated that she threatened to kill him. mind boggling....

[@Truth1561]

Once they decided it was self defence they seem to have washed their hands of it. When you hear how some people who are genuinely protecting their family from an intruder get treated, it really makes you wonder about the officers involved with these monsters.

[@misstro4542]

He knew from the start that Charles was murdered.

[@bswogger4656]

I think so too. Hope he has support! Wish I could help the family feel so peace but I think Justice will give some slight relief, but it is horrific!

[@misstro4542]

@@bswogger4656 It's like something out of a novel. The darkness and human depravity is endless. I feel for all those who could see what Lori, Chad and Alex for what they were. The helplessness must have been overwhelming.

[@bswogger4656]

@@misstro4542 well said. Some people in New York help a grandmother who had her 3 grandchildren walking home from nabor hood Park, a man walked up grabbed one of the children started running. 4 people help her get her grandchild and the man was arrested little while later. I needed to hear people are still good! Some these people had a gut feeling, we should all follow our guts more frequently maybe. Take care.

[@misstro4542]

@@bswogger4656 thanks for the reminder that people can be extraordinarily beautiful and inspiring. Just as Chad and Lori represent the ugliness in humanity. There are awe inspiring people who represent the beauty of humanity. So true! 🙏

[@bswogger4656]

@@misstro4542 you too, thanks for reminding me most people fairly good most but these people are either true insane or pure evil!! Take care.

[@imtired2983]

The copcam video of Charles explaining to police the situation with Lori is heartbreaking. She’s a monster.

[@yvettethomas5533]

OMG yes it is heartbreaking!!!😭😭😭!!! And yes she is a monster, as well as Chad and Alex!!!

[@babystepsgarden6162]

That video needs to be used as a training video of what Not to do in that type of situation, as well as shaming those who sat back and let it happen.

[@heleneocleary5888]

She was given free rein by the police and her mother. Actually I saw and heard the police aiding and abetting her. They told her how to avoid being taken by them for psychiatric evaluation . How bad is that?

[@supersinger2921]

Even after hearing his own words, police failed to charge these monsters after his murder

[@cindypaulhus3701]

I can’t believe the sh** storm that the police ignored

[@onegirlrev]

“It’s best that Lori and JJ have the house” “I want her to be safe” “I want her to be taken care of” “I want her and JJ to be comfortable at the house” What more did this woman want from the man? He was so selfless, thoughtful, and compassionate, so engaged, why would she do all this when she had a responsible man who was so giving and open yet willing to give her space and independence? Not suffocating or domineering at all as many men footing the bill can be. I really don’t understand what her bottom line was. A million dollars? Over the course of this guy’s life with her and the kids, he would have given her more than that. He was great and she was an airhead freak show. She robbed everyone of everything. For what? For Chad? Please someone tell me.

[@theresap50177]

As an ex-mormon and seeing these Zealots in action, I imagine she told herself they weren't equally yoked. She felt more "religious" and "holy" than him. Sad.

[@bellagrace9812]

Go on line and read the book Chad was writing and Lori was reading, its about the interactions they were having and is filled with how much Chad was lusting after Laurie Vallow. She's a narcissist and Chad was her new supply of attention and telling her she was a goddess. Chad is far from innocent in this situation and I believe the master manipulator.

[@animaanimus8011]

@@bellagrace9812 Do you happen to have a link? I couldn’t find it with a google search.

[@jeynjohnstone5917]

I don't get it either.

[@wilsal2485]

@@animaanimus8011 google Chad Daybell's romance novel to Lori. I tried to leave the link but I think it was deleted.

[@corinnewinterrousset]

I wonder why the neighbours on the south side of the house didn’t call the police when they heard the pool party, simply to ask if the house was no longer a crime scene and why anyone is allowed to contaminate the scene?

[@mtaylor7307]

Probably too scared. Retribution puts people on ice.

[@lyndaczika6327]

It’s beyond bizarre.

[@Ronin4614]

Just think; if Alex Cox had been detained, and a murder investigation had been initiated after Charles Vallow had been shot twice and killed, things would be different today. It is quite possible that the children, Tammy Daybell and Alex himself might still be alive today.

[@echofoster3233]

I think about this all the time😭it's gut wrenching. One change could have spared so many lives, and so much heartache💔Charles was failed...and as a result, 3 more innocent lives were taken😞I believe Kay's persistence finding JJ saved others.

[@lyndaczika6327]

I have yet to understand WHY he wasn’t detained. Just another epic failure by authorities. It’s appalling.

[@Fergie66813]

Because poor Tylee had no Choice but to follow her evil mother down a rabbit hole with that Police interview Cosigning Everything Alex said.

[@misstro4542]

Charles friend and landlord had to contact the police. Shouldn't that have been the other way around? Why didn't the police know about the pool party?

[@babystepsgarden6162]

One of the policemen was in the Cult. His last name began with Mow..... I think. He spoke on the "Preparing a People" podcast.

[@merec2585]

@@babystepsgarden6162 didn't he get fired some time before this happened? Not that he couldn't have possibly had some kind of sway if he were still friends with any of them. Although, I think his firing (which he lies about and says he really retired due to an injury, if memory serves) was b/c of things like not writing complete reports, and sleeping in his cruiser rather than actually working... and I *assume* those kinds of shenanigans wouldn't earn you a lot of friends when you're in that line of work. But that's just me guessing... In case you're interested, I noticed that there's a police interview video with Jason Mow on here. A well as videos of interviews with Melanie Gibberish, Zuloony and some of the other nut-sack brigade. Melanie's is the one I've seen some of and it is _something_ ! Nauseating

[@EllaHayaTV]

@@babystepsgarden6162 wow!!!!!

[@lindap.p.1337]

The pool party has been known and public info since right after the murder.

[@misstro4542]

@@lindap.p.1337 So the police knew about the pool party prior to being told by the landlord/friend? I guess the police kept a lot of info very private. That makes sense given that so much has been released recently.

[@Investigativebean]

Lol even this guy says “Alex’s murder.” I really do feel he was killed too. Not that he didn’t deserve it. Alex, and then also Joe Ryan, cause I don’t believe his death was natural. Honestly, It is hard to believe that anyone surrounding these people died naturally.

[@YIKESMF]

And her sister! Died just like Tammy did.

[@user_angelmum]

Very suss the Zulema would ask her son to check on Alex when she had not done so before.. Zulema is as deep in it as Lori, Melanie Chad and the entire cult

[@rhondaalbrecht]

Sounds like the Clintons, doesn't it?

[@ellenbales6347]

I also believe Alex was murdered right along with Lori's other husband.

[@IDance4joy2]

Even the neighbor of Chad’s who sold him Tammy’s life insurance; apparently died similarly to Tammy & Alex. It seems that Chad & Lori wanted his property for their ‘White Tent’ refuge. His death should be investigated as well.

[@sarahvalencia4175]

Just want the kids and Charles justice to be done. This case is so obvious.

[@kaydencegauthier3857]

And Tammy and Joseph Ryan tylee dad

[@lyndaczika6327]

It’s absolutely astounding that NONE of the authorities involved took Charles with any seriousness. I wonder how they sleep at night.

[@michele8083]

Good for him Immediately saying the weekend Charles was MURDERED!

[@AP-lp7to]

I caught that too! He didn’t even hesitant

[@kathleenstutzman5381]

So glad she didn't get his life ins. $.....poor man, he was a decent human being!

[@alldoc9791]

The police dropped the ball on this case, horrible. I hope they are held accountable.

[@shannajoy1821]

They won't be. They are cops.

[@deadmanswife3625]

@@shannajoy1821 it would be nice if after the trials are over there are some lawsuits. But maybe if I said anymore somebody would say I'm being racist but I'm certain there's a lawsuit or two here with the things that were not handled correctly

[@wildyblissjazz]

And yet police stated it was self defense. How incompetent do they have to be!

[@PushaT_cells]

Big ups for landlord being detailed, direct, and clear in his reporting. He sounds like he would have made an effective police detective lol

[@onegirlrev]

Yeah. He’s great. Very matter of fact yet detailed. I can see why he took that extra time to get back to the detective because he probably needed a chance to collect his thoughts and articulate them.

[@private91]

Well said. Well spoken landlord

[@cherylwright9408]

I hope landlord testifies.

[@nelle9118]

I love that he made her move.

[@onegirlrev]

@@nelle9118 me too!!!

[@elainekniffen3648]

Not to mention that when Lori got back to the house she was out front laughing and joking about her husband being dead

[@cherylwright9408]

Why the heck when Lori pulled away she or Tylee didn't call 911 and say please my husband and brother are fighting! She already knew what happened. Any normal person wouldn't even been able to drive much less go shopping for flip flops after taking JJ to school. COLD AND PLANED . Did she promise Tylee some of the million life insurance, that she didn't get ?

[@ralphmajor1947]

She knew that she was a millionaires and that's what mattered to her! I'd like to see her face when she heard that it wasn't in her name!!! Her call to the insurance claims department is priceless 🤣 😂 👌!

[@janicescott7338]

I think that shows how psychotic she was because you would think she would at least pretend to be distraught. She was in her own world.

[@cindyluwho9041]

@@cherylwright9408 bet Alex was expecting a big chunk of it

[@laurelsheart]

Its a sad sad set of circumstances, but I don’t understand how Alex got to go home to a pool party. This entire organization, Prepare A People should be sued and some jailed. No one should be threatened!

[@FragrantJewelsbykim]

problem is Alex killed them all, including himself

[@misabel801]

@@FragrantJewelsbykim Lori did it, via Alex

[@annwood6812]

Not a logical idea to sue the entire PAP organization. Why not just arrest everyone in Idaho? And Arizona and Utah? Or better yet arrest all people who have weird ideas. That's the ticket.

[@laurelsheart]

@@annwood6812 its very logical idea to sue them. Public should shut them down.

[@ChubbyUnicorn]

Good to know it only takes 3 more murders before Chandler AZ PD will seriously look into the 1st murder.

[@Momma-angela]

My heart goes out to Charles’ family, loved ones and many good friends. 😢 I am so very sorry for your loss, I believe Charles was a great man.

[@normac9931]

So many ppl who knew Charles have spoken so well of him. He was completely blindsided by lori's lunacy, after being married for so many years. I cant imagine what his last days were like. 💔💔 RIP Mr Vallow. The landlord sounds like he knew Charles really well. :( & also sounds wistful about what happened to Charles...i hope he doesnt feel guilty -- no one expected lori to evolve into an evil alterego.not even her family. And sadly not even her children expected it- they trusted her. :(

[@Enoughalready20237]

The sad part is that he didn’t realize that he was married to a psychopath. They are very charming and manipulative. She was driven by money alone.

[@glamvan8658]

Ya, so did LE...obviously

[@hannannah1uk]

He tried to get her evaluated mentally so he could get the kids. It wasn't just money.

[@cristineconnell7803]

​@@Enoughalready20237 You often don't until it's too late!

[@cristineconnell7803]

​@@hannannah1uk He tried to get her evaluated because she was his wife, he loved her & she was clearly off the rails!

[@kimwagoner1147]

Pool party is really Lori thinking she was about to get a big paycheck. What I've heard is JJ didn't know about Charles. What a sick Sick family.

[@onegirlrev]

I don’t know how you can get that close to your brother that you’d plot a murder or multiple murders with them. It just seems extremely weird.

[@darganx]

Chandler Police sound like they are on Lori's side for most of this call.. they are PATHETIC!! There needs to be sackings over this.

[@pamsawyer6615]

I'm not convinced alex died of natural causes. I'm not convinced lori is not fit for trial. I'm not convinced that zulema, and the 2 Melanie's are clueless to the coincidental deaths that surrounded or threatened chad and Lori's union. Wow I sound like a police officer... or apparently not.

[@nicolesinclair9223]

I agree!

[@ryansgirl2002]

Agree.

[@beverlystaley9698]

I agree with you 100%. They all need to be held accountable for their involvement & failure to prevent or report what they knew. crazy evil people. Good grief.

[@geraldine1437]

I agree, I agree, I agree!

[@hoosiernee1993]

Yeah apparently not!!!! At least not what is considered these officers of the law!

[@jenjennitrite8146]

this whole thing is so heart-breaking! poor charles! the man bever had a chance against chad and lori and everyone else that were in cahoots with them.... i feel so sorry for kay and the rest of charles' family 😭😭

[@tmp1111]

Wow a pool party? I can't wait for Justice in this case. Lori has done nothing but leave a trail of pain, horror and destruction.

[@normacolon9618]

When they sentence her or she gets the death injection, let's all have a pool party and let her know we r having one before she leaves to the other side where hell will await her.

[@ramonayoung4836]

I so wish Adam or someone would've accompanied Charles that fateful morning to the house😢.

[@sarahhunter1114]

I know right. Four innocent people would be alive today....😢

[@Bildgesmythe]

Or Adam would be dead as well.

[@ThatTracyJuneStafford]

Lori took Charles phone from him. I’m sure that’s why he got so upset at her. He KNEW they were going to kill him that morning. He knew something was up. He told Lori’s brother Brandon that the evening before or THAT morning before he went over there.....absolutely heart breaking.

[@janicescott7338]

@@ThatTracyJuneStafford Thankfully Adam didn’t go and is alive. The only person Charles should of taken was the police, fully armed.

[@rab6453]

i bet the shooter would have been jailed in most states.

[@debbiemelillo2011]

Well that may have saved the lives of those two beautiful children....how does the police department feel about THAT??

[@lindamaemullins5151]

Yep 👍

[@EllaHayaTV]

The neighbours had enough sense to know there was a killer in that house.

[@sabrinarojas4796]

Sounds to me this was an ambush. My theory is that Lori called Charles to come to the house. When he gets there, surprise surprise: the thug (Alex) is there, ready to kill. When Charles realizes this, he probably attempts to call police. That's why they took away his phone. Now, how this premeditated and brutal murder got labeled as self-defense is beyond me.

[@emilyflotilla931]

Haunting words! This good man is really hurting, I hope he's coping all right, and is seeking counseling if he needs it. Same goes for all the innocent victims of this heinous murder ring. My heart goes out to all of them. You can put any kind of sheep's wool on top of this 'twisted yarn', but underneath its always been about the money. I hope they throw the book at the entire gang.

[@Ana-hy5nh]

Someone said I’m glad their investigating this. Umm yeah it’s the LEAST they can do since they failed to investigate the mental health order by Charles and many other thing leading UP TO the brutal murders….

[@xeno4746]

They did a mental health evaluation with Lori. I wonder what such an investigation looks like because it apparently came out as "normal" after the tests 🤔🤔🤔🤔.

[@redrose41000]

@@xeno4746 - Yeah, she was released within a couple of hours!!! Nuts!

[@couturestalker8606]

She can appear to be whatever suits her at the moment- “normal” cause she’s about to sleep with her favorite sh***y writer in Hawaii and “unable to comprehend anything” when she’s busted for half a dozen of murders and attempts on people’s lives

[@redrose41000]

When she spews all that stuff about being a supreme goddess… They have to know she’s full of it…

[@heatherbee4331]

just when I think she couldn’t be any more coldhearted, I find out she is. 😮

[@paulalyus9237]

The mental assessment that was done on Lori should have been arranged and done properly by a professional, it shouldn’t have been a little chitchat with a police officer that Lori was able to dazzle with her giggling. I hope this is a procedure that is altered after all this. Charles had the right to be listened to, especially with such an outlandish story, what grown man would make something like that up?! 🤷‍♀️

[@bethoneybee]

Am I the only one who thinks Lori & Alex's relationship was not a normal brother sister relationship?

[@yvettethomas5533]

Nope!! You're not the only one!!

[@katherinebutz1538]

Yeah she blacked mailed him he was homosexual

[@YIKESMF]

Well, normal people don't kill other people.

[@katherinebutz1538]

@@YIKESMF growup

[@NastyWoman1979]

@@katherinebutz1538 um what?? Is a fact.

[@BackrowErnie]

This is the most insane case I’ve ever followed. I can’t imagine how crazy it must all be for people like Joe…just mind blowing.

[@h2oquality2010]

I'll say!!

[@angeliquede2243]

This case is absolutely crazy...theres just so many parts......unbelievable parts to this case smh.....

[@filmchick6389]

Joe: “There’s a pool party after a murder .... I don’t know how you guys puzzle these pieces together” Chandler PD: “We don’t”

[@rachaelmccarl]

I am so glad Charles had a friend like this. So grateful he is able to defend his character.

[@elanahammer1076]

East Idaho news and community… thank you for sharing. Be well 🤔❤🇺🇸

[@MegOtto4268]

I like how the landlord refers to Alex as,”The shooter”. We have been using many terms that are much less appropriate. This breaks my heart for Charles and the kids. What did her friends think about the fact that someone had died there THAT morning? A PARTY?!?!?!?! Lori didn’t even pause to mourn the loss of her most precious gifts in life… not once. She lost so many beautiful souls because she believed a lie. Because she wanted more. Wanted TO BE more. In reality she had EVERYTHING that she could have ever wanted or needed. THAT is what she should have been fighting FOR!

[@allysonh6410]

Ya. I'd question Every one of those people. "Didn't you think it a little odd,..."

[@normacolon9618]

Well she got everything and more, she believed the walls will come down and she could get out of jail, she believes they'll find her righteous and innocent, because shes a devil worshiper and do is chad under the guise of God worshipping. The devil is, who people sacrifice their kids for. power, temporary delusional power which she had or thought she had because she could kill mercilessly and get away with it, since she had gotten away with it and with the help of her friend from the mormon church that worked at that precinct. They all turned a blind eye to that witch and that child was a liar too, she helped her mother with Charles, she shouldve said leave me out of it. She wanted to do whatever she wanted and was not listening to Charles the true father they had. He may not have been perfect but he had to many qualities. what did a gravedigger devil had, thought she found a writer with power of other dimensions, didnt she know Chad's book were fictional, he just wanted a sexy women with money and she fell for that to...ad that had debt to his arse and she taught he had nooooo money, haha on her, she deserves everything she gets and more, shes a criminal.

[@aimeefriedman822]

This is the most normal interview I've heard, yet. Every other person interviewed, on some level, seemed nuts! Besides this guy, all these ex friends of Lori's were listening to and around me her for at least a no year, knowing all this "religious" extremist behavior, talk of spirits and end of world and stood by. Her parents, brother, friends, all were part of this bizarre thinking. They cut out the brother that actually said, "Lori, you're nuts". Also, did the authorities know there was a cult of people preparing for the end? Bc IMO this entire cult should have been on radar for a long time.

[@sarahhunter1114]

That’s what I just thought. If there were people threatening Charles’ family in Louisiana, whoever that was should be charged.

[@aimeefriedman822]

@@sarahhunter1114 I also heard another brother of Lori's that was trying to help Charles and knew Lori had gone off the deep end. He told EVERYTHING he knew. But, all these friends and people who worked for this one or that...they should have spoken up sooner. How can you listen to your friend tell you that her ex and son had turned into a Zombie? How come the school didn't report anything when Lori disappeared for the first time, for over 50 days and left Tyler with Alex? I TOTALLY don't understand why Charles' death wasn't declared a murder until Alex Cox was already dead! Social Services should have started checking, the moment Charles got killed and they threw a barbeque. I also hear that JJ threw an Autistic Tantrum at school, screaming, "Tyler's not dead". And, law enforcement wasn't investigating this, "end of days", cult?

[@cynthiabelknap8655]

Agreed!!! Everyone connected to these ppl say something strange at least once or have a weird affect.

[@bonniemiera1510]

@@aimeefriedman822 I think it's because the average person can't fathom this wacky weird stuff that Lori was into. Most of them knew her for years and I guess she pulled off "nice" for a long time.

[@politicallyincorrect5802]

If they were REALLY preparing for the end, they wouldn´t worry about $$$. It was all about money, the religious mambo jambo is the cover up.

[@subobing3551]

Interesting. What a callous horrific woman to be having a pool party that day !! My god, she couldn’t even fake being sad!

[@bettebyrd]

All social media knew the “day of the homicide” that they had a pool party! Why would the police not know that. They removed the tape and I would think that to do that would be against the law for forensics purposes, that party messed up the crime scene, or it was ethically horrid at the very least! Why didn’t the woman police officer ask Tylee why she said she needed a BAT in her Uncles house to feel safe “ just in case” when she stayed there. .then take it with her from then on? Why was she afraid of her Uncle Alex? Why didn’t the police woman ask Lori why she left the scene of a homicide and didn’t have Tylee take JJ to school in Alex’s truck? Instead she got his phone and wallet off his dead body and copied everything off that phone into either a burner phone they bought at a store before returning to the house and STILL THE POLICE didn’t ask her for the phone or wallet until the next day after she when through and read all his messages and deleted all the messages she wanted deleted and probably added some and knew the police there would be clueless! She was always tree steps ahead of you all the entire time. She’s a serial killer from years back probably clear back to her older sister who died very young, in her twenties ( well of course she did) because Alex is the one who was taking care of her back then too …good old uncle Alex skilled in the art of murder…then Lori took her daughter and just about raised her too ( Melanie Boudreaux) ..and fed her the cool aid from that point on…and almost murdered Melanie’s husband during the fiasco. The mental hospital better be very careful that she doesn’t murder one of them. Chad is actually lucky that he wasn’t the next one to die. Why would anyone with one brain cell leave the scene of the crime and go to Walgreens for flip flops, to get fast food and then go back to the scene of the homicide laughing and joking? Neighbors didn’t think any of it was funny! Why not just have Tylee take J.J to school and Lori stay there and wait for the police? Did they ask Lori when she got there for his wallet? ( NO) The police on the body cam knew it was missing from his body they didn’t know who he was! Did they ask her for his phone when she sauntered up ? (No) the whole fight was supposedly over his phone so she leaves with his phone and wallet and goes to get food and flip flops on Charles credit card. She continued to use his credit cards for all her new wedding attire for her and for Chad weeks before his wife died as well as using Tylees credit card for her needs while she lay dead in Chad’s back yard. Shes what is called a MASTER MANIPULATOR!! She’s a classic habitual liar and does it so well that she’s believable. I guarantee she will be in the ‘nut house’ indefinitely for the rest of her life so she can manipulate the weaker of the staff that she may find. She may even for ‘sex’ find someone to help her escape the mental institution if at all possible. Perhaps not take her medication and save it up pretend to overdose and as they take her to the hospital escape from the hospital facility. She will not be wanting to be executed and burn in hell for her transgressions here. Nope!! a narcissist will never admit wrong doing but blame everyone else.

[@lyndaczika6327]

I have never understood why Lori wasn’t asked why she took Charles’ phone in the first place?? The female detective who interviewed Lori was horrible. She didn’t press Lori on anything!!! I watched that entire interview and it was a JOKE!! It infuriates me!!

[@Querencia7779]

This is not just about Lori Vallow; it’s about ghouls. What is wrong with people that they’d go to a pool-party after somebody’s husband was killed, and party with that spouse?! Good Lord!

[@alisasewell]

Contrary to this investigator’s comment, Lori, Tylee, and Alex’s statements did not match! In fact the detective who took Alex’s statement later at the pd said the 3 current statements didn’t match up so he’s wanting clarification. The devil is in the details in this case and it’s those little details that were different between the 3. (I just deleted examples of those specific discrepancies because this post was turning into a novel. There is just so much). Watch Alex’s interview on scene by police and both Lori and Tylee’s interview at the pd (note, they can hear each other’s interview because they are in adjacent rooms with paper thin walls. Tylee doesn’t seem interested in what Lori is saying but Lori listens carefully to Tylee’s statement). Sad side note, In her interview, Tylee makes a statement about her uncle being protective. How sad to realize her “protector” would kill and dismember her in just 2 months!

[@CLE-EA]

I think Lori had a lot of People fooled for a long time. They all said she was a great mother but that’s what she wanted them to see. Let’s not forget she spent years making joe Ryan’s life a living hell. And that was way before she even heard of chad daybell.

[@barbsyorkies]

Think this OVER KNW WHAT?????

[@pamelaunderwood2925]

I've read Charles was involved and supported her vendetta against joe Ryan. Just saying...

[@Beelzybud]

Not really an "interview". The detective didn't ask anything. Joe just starts talking and doesn't stop.

[@k1ttychaos250]

Lucky for that detective that Joe had a friend that’s an officer that advised him to stay away from social media and make sure he had all his facts written down…smh. Had he not, by the time the detective and joe finally some, he could have forgot and left a lot out 🤦🏻‍♀️🙏🏽

[@allysonh6410]

Thank God @Beelz

[@carrow1057]

Is noone else stunned by the sheer length of time this person speaks without interruption? Amazed .

[@aimeefriedman822]

I still don't understand how they ORIGINALLY, declared this an accident, knowing what we know about Charles's autopsy. HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE? Not until after Cox's death, do they declare a homicide. crazy.

[@dragonflypromoise7774]

I have a strong suspicion that the officers on the scene were LDS or buddies with Chad and his cult and covered for them. This case is so deep and has so many players in it. The guy that integrated Alex was a joke.

[@nelle9118]

What did the autopsy say besides gun shot?

[@aimeefriedman822]

@@dragonflypromoise7774 GREAT OBSERVATION/INTUITION!! I am sooo far removed from Mormonism, in NYC (majority of Christians are Catholic), that it didn't Dawn on me. That makes a lot of sense, though. For a year, we didn't know how many times Charles was shot. Knowing what we know now, he should have been arrested, immediately.

[@aimeefriedman822]

@@nelle9118 Multiple Fatal type shots, none showing an attempt to just put him down in self defense.

[@allysonh6410]

@@dragonflypromoise7774 why would they connect it to Chad at the time?? Was it known him and Lori were already involved

[@frankie1012]

Loving all these tidbits in these random interviews. Amazing how such an unhinged woman paraded around in her own evil, delusional reality for so long unchecked.

[@sassycat6468]

Detective says that their statements added up then he says they "kinda" added up!! I can't even articulate how angry that makes me 😠😠😠

[@Emily-vl2ow]

Lori had the flooring fixed without telling her landlord, who owned the house?! Oh my goodness!! That is so crazy!

[@angeliquede2243]

So glad all of these recordings are coming out. She was a very devious woman......She and her brother set Charles up and then to turn around and have a pool party in the same house with children there. She is really not right and I hope they get whats coming to them for these treacherous acts committed

[@Rachel-yi8yy]

Shit this is so sad to here that Charles was crying and new what was going to happen , and no one listened 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

[@leo_zero1879]

Uuuggghhhh... That just twists my stomach... I can't imagine how he must have felt those last few weeks and months..

[@Emily-vl2ow]

This is so frustrating!!!! This guy clearly sees things for what they are. I cannot believe the things being said! The neighbors all feeling uneasy about Alex’s presence after the murder, the pool party the same day, everything. Wow wow wow.

[@dancingdog6732]

Evan the neighbors knew charles was murdered

[@JudeNance]

They are both nuts for thinking they could get away with all these murders.

[@mihaelauricaru5150]

No, they are not nuts, they knew they are enabled to do everything they want: the family was by their side, the church was by their side and the Chandler police was by their side. Master Manipulators with a lot of enablers. They did whaterver they wanted, as long as they could get away with it.

[@Enoughalready20237]

Notice how Lori discards people once she decides she doesn’t need her ‘friend’ anymore?

[@marjieestivill]

Joe’s narrative with details and timeframes did the interviewer’s job. I’m so glad Joe’s knowledge was documented and I’m glad the interviewer was helpful in answering questions, that he did not interrupt Joe’s narratives. These details will come into play in court.

[@theart3813]

The main demon left the house by August 31st.

[@Madmarsha]

"Been investigating ever since." Meanwhile, everyone involved leaves the state and two children are murdered.

[@snahg2356]

Note to self: If you want to commit a huge crime, do it in Chandler AZ. Scott-free

[@leo_zero1879]

My God... If it wasn't for Kay, I wonder how long it would have taken for all these nut jobs to get a damn clue Charles was murdered and the kids missing and murdered... those precious babies , Charles, and Tammy, ALL deserved so much more then what was done to them.. Even more so, they deserve a proper investigation into what the hell happened.... This conversation took place when ?!? Unbelievable... Way to be on the ball detective👍👍

[@JS-do7zf]

Kay continually called the Chandler police…she was relentless. But you need to know neighbors …friends and other relatives were tipping the police off. Some were told to mind their own business…it was unbelievable….after that… people that you don’t even know were calling the FBI with the same concerns…there are too many to mention….but others around this awful scene were begging for the police to do something. It was so obvious to everyone except the police.

[@leo_zero1879]

@@JS-do7zf wow .. That's gut wrenching .. why ?? I wonder why they didn't... whatever their justification for it is it's not enough... how crazy?! People even called the FBI? I wonder how many of those calls were followed up on after the fact, that we have no idea about..... ,? How do they not have a huge lawsuit in their hands ?!? Smh... Unbelievable...

[@JS-do7zf]

@@leo_zero1879 I hope so....

[@allysonh6410]

@@JS-do7zf awful!! How did u find this out? Any thoughts as to why it wasn't obvious to police??!

[@user_angelmum]

I wonder though was Tammy clueless ?

[@Susie_Floozie]

Whoa, this is compelling material. Thanks for posting this. It adds so much texture to this whole horrible story. Poor Charles...he was such a noble guy, and it breaks my heart that he couldn't prevent these maniacs from engineering a delusional nightmare that spelled his end. I hope they burn for it.

[@dianealarcon8304]

I’m listening to this on 5/4/23 during Lori’s trial in ID. Wow, it’s very enlightening to hear the Detective speak w/ the landlord friend of Charles. If their is another trial, looks like the AZ jury will be hearing about the pool party Lori had the day of Charles murder. She is very sinister. BTW Get the house saged!!

[@stevewalther2293]

Alex walks free...travels...gets married...runs off to do what ever he wants after he killed people...parties in Vegas...

[@saffronhammer7714]

Lori was NOT a great mom. She put on a show for others, but she was a horrible mother. Worst.

[@tarnsand440]

Tylee's bf said Tylee looked after JJ more than Lori did.

[@TheCatquillen]

This is a very good recording. I had not heard it. Critical insight to this case.

[@ariannaclearday]

Did Lori ever have to work an actual job in her life, or did she go straight from cheerleading to wackadoo sci-fi cults?

[@jasminejones9937]

She turned "being married" into her career/job (starting with her first marriage at 18) She's a nutcase !

[@PInk77W1]

She made $3700. A month as a hair dresser in Texas.

[@paisleydreamzzz]

sounds like she treated her family the same way she did the landlord. wish i could say that shocked or even surprised me. sadly it does not. she was a woman on a mission. consequences be d%$##

[@sharpedge3355]

If this is an example of the very talkative, nosy neighbours that Law Enforcement interrogates, then cold cases should not exist!

[@doreenkemp2856]

This is definitely going to be good for the AZ case . Who has a pool party after their husband was killed!?

[@EllaHayaTV]

I just love the sound of Charles, a hero! A great man. Everyone says the same thing about him!!

[@LisaSmith3663]

Alex said Lori left and Lori and Tylee said they were there. Did you guys pick up on those discrepancies ?

[@LisaSmith3663]

the statements did not match. Go back and re listen. LE has a habit of telling each other what others said instead of letting everyone ask questions and then compare notes or reviewing the cam footage and interview tapes.

[@LisaSmith3663]

Ohhhh I didn't know about Alex having a prior record. I don't get how the LE believed his story sitting on the curb outside the house right after it happened when Lori and Tylee pulled up. So many red flags. And Lori and Tylee were in interview rooms next to each other and could hear exactly where was being said through the paper thin walls.

[@wildchild307]

@@LisaSmith3663 they were there for the shooting, and then left to take JJ to school.

[@LisaSmith3663]

@@wildchild307 that is not what Alex told the police when he was sitting on the curb

[@wildchild307]

@@LisaSmith3663 They were outside of the house, but they were there on-location. Then immediately left afterwards. They did not physically witness the shooting.

[@bswogger4656]

Anyone know this landlord I sure hope he is okay now!

[@onegirlrev]

Me too! He sounds really traumatized by all of this.

[@CAJUNBEE]

I wonder if he paid someone to clean all the blood? because it seeped down in the mortar I seen it in one of the crime seen photos. That bio hazard! They have companies that come in and tare out all the bio than you repair what they take out flooring baseboards walls studs in the walls. I just wonder. And did he tell the new owners what happened there?

[@sisaroos]

Lori was partying bc in her mind , her's A millionaire😂

[@sisaroos]

That's why the pool party was going on

[@sarahathaway2648]

The Chandler please screwed the pooch on this. they should be held accountable in some way.

[@thehilariousashantijohnson416]

This is so disappointing and very sad. I just can’t believe that WOW😭😭😭😭😢😢😢😢

[@sisterbluesighs]

I'm new to this channel but not new to the case. I've never heard this interview before. This man's words about his friend, Charles, are spoken from the heart. I'm glad I found it. The focus has been on Tylee and JJ, understandably so but Charles needs to be there, too. The more I learn about him, the more I respect him as a man.💙

[@jodievukmir3187]

Dude you don't need your house blessed from Charles you need it blessed from Lori! So it doesn't matter where Charles died you need to bless the entire house the rid her

[@carolbruster3777]

To Me it was Obvious the Friend/ Landlord was NOT talking about Charles...But ridding the Evil and Murderous LORI & ALEX👹😈 BRING ON THE *SAGE, HOLY WATER, BLESSINGS ect!!😤 RIP,...CHARLES, TYLEE, JJ, TAMMY & JOE{Lori's husband before Charles, who had Insurance in Lori/tylee's name} JUSTICE 4 all Innocent Victims of Lori,Alex & Chad!!!💕💙💜💚✌🏼

[@elizabethelliott3175]

This guy just talks absolutely non-stop, which is a good thing, I guess, in this case.

[@SalveRegina8]

Holy cow! The end scared the crud out of me!

[@HYPNOTOAD291]

with all of these police interviews being released, how do you think this will affect choosing a jury when this finally goes to trial?

[@annwood6812]

I've wondered the same. But I think people don't follow this case closely because of the number of people involved. You really have to make a commitment of time to understand what was happening. Go to the reddit sites where Mormons hang out; they rarely discuss the case. Partly out of embarrassment, I think, but partly because it's just too complex and weird to bother with.

[@polkadots716]

@@annwood6812 True. I once found a forum for a church I had been going to and was shocked to learn of all the criminal and immoral behavior going on behind the scenes. After I stopped going, people were asking me why and when I told them, some knew vaguely what was happening but made excuses and brushed it aside. The church had also created a new forum that didn't allow talk about those matters, so many people were still in the dark. People in close groups like that are more likely to tune out anything that puts their social network and beliefs in a negative light, IMO.

[@yvettethomas5533]

@@annwood6812 I wondered the same as well and let's all hope this is true, Because the whole world knows this case, But let's just pray 🙏 that there are those that don't know this case, so they can have a "fair and impartial trial", so that no appeal can be made. May these two rot in Prison, and in hell!!!!

[@babystepsgarden6162]

At the very end of this video, the sound did a strange "loop" of the words "the report get back". Like it was on an old 33rpm record with a scratch on it.

[@laraoneal7284]

This East Idaho channel is doing a great job on this case.

[@sl5820]

WOW! What took police so long to reach out to the owner of the house where someone was SHOT and KILLED!!!! Under very suspicious circumstances?!?!

[@paulamerrill2712]

Who was on the guest list? The circle of followers who gathered to pray for Charles' death? Had she even bothered to clean up his blood or did she show it to everybody as proof their prayers worked? 🤔

[@CaseyRhyneXoXo]

I want to know why didn't the detective ask WHO was all celebrating at the pool party after Charles was murdered?! THAT'S IMPORTANT! Errr. Terrible investigation by this police department.

[@jeynjohnstone5917]

Yeah. Wow.

[@normacolon9618]

@@CaseyRhyneXoXo of course she told them party was planned. Butcsidnt tell them the murder wasvplannrf. Alex was preparing charles to get angry or agitate him to then use the self defense like he had stated with xwife.

[@niq1232]

Wow...I'm just speechless. Those poor babies and Charles and Tammy. I truly hope that justice prevails. May God keep them safe. Scotland still remembers as I'm sure the rest of the world do too. This case,the Shannan watts case and now baby petito case it's so sad!

[@northerngirl4666]

What spouse has a party after their spouse is murdered just to bring normalcy to a kid???? Is this guy nuts? His first instinct was right … it was highly suspicious to have a pool party the day your husband is murdered.

[@TheAzb7]

Like he said at the time, "they had been investigating the situation." Well than they should've been smart enough to hold AC in custody until thy finished the investigation. SMH...then things may not have went as far as they did.

[@kaydencegauthier3857]

I'm really glad this officer is on it with this I keep remember this officer voice I hope he stays on till the end

[@tiffanybecker8535]

So sad to hear about how Charles was gunned down . Lori had it all and destroyed her entire life . She probebly still thinks she will get out of this . She is going to spend the rest of her life in prison as she should .

[@usakiwi1986]

Charles was such a selfless man! I am wondering if they ever checked the baseball bat for Charles finger prints?

[@barbarahenninger6642]

The detective said the had the bat for fingerprints.

[@lindatexas5906]

Ok where are the reports on those fingerprints??

[@aprilsheppard556]

I read somewhere they did not test the bat...

[@YIKESMF]

I wonder if they checked Charles hands for touch dna from either Alex or Lori. Not hard to place a dead man's hand on a baseball bat to transfer fingerprints.

[@michelle3445]

The data that’s been released said they tested the bat but no usable prints