Police prise open gun safe - the full story

[@regd.2263]

Sue Met and Somerset police for compensation, also his ex wife should be arrested and prosecuted for lying and wasting police time.

[@stephencope7178]

His wife took away his livelyhood as well. His job was as a game and pest controller!!

[@cliffordbuttle4529]

I think I would deman a DNA test as well 🤪🤪🤡🤡

[@danielbarnes6873]

Good luck with any of that

[@alanwalton5735]

Gun insurance should include paying for the prosecution either public or private, who ever started the mess

[@Korvintage64]

@@regd.2263 that will never happen because it would need the Police to admit they were wrong. Such an admission is in effect accepting liability, which would allow a civil claim to be made. Little wonder why those that used to support the Police have little but contempt for it now.

[@MrMillez]

Innocent people harassed and criminals are free to do as they please. The uk need new leaders everywhere

[@gardencity3558]

Esepcially if they're foreign born.

[@kennethhowell1272]

Not just the UK, but the United States and many other countries.

[@gardencity3558]

@@kennethhowell1272 Canada!

[@victornonnya]

It's not about separating the 2, they see both to be the same.

[@mikepxg6406]

Innocent people don't have guns.

[@thomasembleton1467]

It's time to sue the police and get full custody of his child.

[@mikepxg6406]

Bad idea

[@juhanivalimaki5418]

Suing police would be stupid. Just sue the ex-wife to get the weapons back, full custody and some reparations. = put oneself on the same side as authorities.

[@DaveYouTube-qr8ct]

you have absolutely zero idea how the family courts work in the UK 😂 i spent 3 years fighting for my kids after i left their mum. she was neglectful, abusive. social services removed them into my care 4 times in 2 years and in each court appearance she was given custody again. and its all area dependent. Merseyside has the worst family courts and social services in the country for example

[@argondemad8024]

Its the mother who lied, the police also overreacted

[@argondemad8024]

​@@DaveKZbin-qr8ctas bad as NZ

[@glencoe8251]

There is no situation that the police can't make worse.

[@aidanjenoch8676]

tru, my bike got stollen in battenburg, the didnt give a marzipan about it

[@AFuriousCrab]

​@@DM-ur8vcHe's never had a day job.

[@aidanjenoch8676]

@@AFuriousCrab you jealous? Working peasants go clock into your boss.... Poor people make me sick

[@imaginitivity7853]

You don't get into the MET by being smart

[@tonylam9548]

You do not need the police to make things worse in UK, you already imported a whole Saracen army, just waiting for their % to go up enough so they can walk all over you. They will be armed to the teeth while the average British citizens will have nothing.

[@redschanel]

One bitter woman and no evidence is all it takes. 99 problems.

[@onepup-pr3yl]

And one cretin of a copper who can't evaluate a situation or allegation, impartially and you become the most dangerous threat in the country.

[@TheWolfsnack]

Narcissistic women......ask me how I know.

[@scavl14]

I am not even through the video and can already figure it all out. In the US, the push for red flag laws, this is what we have been warning about how it can be abused. All it takes is a scorned lover or spouse, rarely are false allegations prosecuted. Most times, the person has no clue it is happening to them. No due process and no further mental exam but the firearms will be taken.

[@caniacstevehenderson7115]

Amen !!

[@martinswiney2192]

Crazy woman with crazy son. I mean the recently passed queen and current king, who is also a Queen. 😂

[@HighMaintenancePS]

Can we please support this guy to get justice in both his paternity issues and the break in and theft by police?

[@mikepxg6406]

No

[@cyberleaderandy1]

​@@mikepxg6406your obviously a guardian reader

[@warlockuk6939]

​@@mikepxg6406You must be a very sad individual.

[@sicks6six]

@@warlockuk6939 he is he plays golf !

[@Rtaquelim]

Beyond the pale. Is this what equality looks like in 2024…? She should be prosecuted and have her custody rights removed. On top she should be forced to pay child support.

[@ecleveland1]

I’m American and this same thing happens here as well. My brothers ex wife accused him of beating her when she came to check on their son while my brother had him for the weekend. He was smart because he had installed hidden cameras around his home and the video showed her kicking and beating on his door but he never opened it. The boy was played in court and the charges were dismissed. She was pissed! The next thing to happen was she wouldn’t allow my brother his custody of their son. When he took her to court she found out she was going to lose all custody rights of their son she kidnapped him and left the country. It took the FBI and the State Department almost five years to find her and bring her back to the states to stand trial. Far too many men are victims of their ex wives.

[@adrianmotet5083]

@@ecleveland1 The fact that these women can make false accusations and be pissed off as a reaction instead of being scared of consequences in making false statement shows not only a high sense of entitlement but also realisation on their behalf how biased the court system is and how it can be manipulated. The whole belieb all women bs. They dont even have a sense of embarrassment, it shows low morals and value.

[@cyberleaderandy1]

Sadly not a chance as most courts will believe they lying woman rather than a truthful man

[@douglasboehlen551]

😂 That's not how the world works!

[@MrD_2112]

This is what equality has always meant, they just don't tell us that.

[@andrewrush5125]

Guilty until proven innocent !

[@PeterMaddison2483]

It's been that way for decades.

[@paul8161]

Guilty of what exactly?.false allegations..I hope he takes legal advice against all parties .

[@wendwllhickey6426]

Police go after the low hanging fruit it is easier because they are lazy 😂

[@union310]

That is the exact situation.

[@tc5042]

Definitely 😮

[@sandystanley1237]

Few years ago Britain stood as the bulwark against fascism. Today it had fully embraced it.

[@larkop6504]

It's almost like it's fascism s cheerleader. Thank god I got out of the UK. The thought of going back makes me feel sick.

[@Sumwunwee]

Until there is accountability off women making false statements to police this will always be issues like this.. I hope this man has had DNA test done

[@sammytracey3935]

That woman needs to be thrown in prison for lying in court and to police 👮

[@oso9809]

Absolutely she is apparently quite vile.

[@davesheffield3620]

My thoughts also

[@dancing4bears]

"Women" and "accountability" in the same sentence?! Doesn't your autocorrect alert you when you make errors like that?

[@mvubu6823]

The POST OFFICE debacle has shown exactly how government people are prepared to behave at the expense of innocent people.

[@SubvertTheState]

Yes, and their heart rate and respiration never even rise above resting rate. Even when they bulldoze your fence and cut a hole into the side of the house for 'officer safety' because the guy across the street threatened to kill himself. And if you're lucky enough not to have had dozens of chemical weapons set off inside your house, they'll thank you on their way out the hole in your house and give you a card. That way you know the first number you can call to get put on hold and to call back during normal hours, then to tell you to call the city clerk for compensation for the demolishing of your house. If you raise too much of a fuss, they'll condemn your house and order you to fix the hole they cut in your house. If you can't get someone with a state license and state permit to repair your property, you may need to vacate your property. If not, you can be charged and arrested for not obeying. And that's one example of how the State can steal your home from you whenever they want. And if you are too upset about it, they can put you in a kennel until you behave in a manner which pleases the government.

[@richardgallagher4880]

37ooo are arrested each year for defending the country. Post office😆

[@HighMaintenancePS]

I lost my child multiple times. The worst was from the age of 13 to 19. All because of a bitter lying woman and no justice in site whatsoever. I could never gain any sort of equality. Why are our systems so arbitrary and open to abuse from liars?

[@TheWolfsnack]

That sounds similar to my own experience with my first wife...she did the same with my daughter, then denied the reality of some guy she knew molesting her...the result being that my daughter died from an inability to deal with her trauma.

[@brucelytle1144]

I'll I can say is: DITTO!

[@OH2023-cj9if]

That's what started the Fathers4Justice movement.

[@Anton-je9bc]

​@@TheWolfsnack omg that's awful 😢 what happened to her? :(

[@johnrhodes3350]

Because they are run by and pretty much exclusively employ people who have narcissistic personality disorder. They recognise and look after their own kind.

[@andyfry745]

Perfect gentleman for a gun and license going by his calm approach to all the upheaval.

[@williambaird8807]

This is the problem grovelling. Perfect he should not need to be subservient to have a licence. It’s should be his right.

[@andyfry745]

@@williambaird8807 owning a firearm isn’t a right in the uk it’s a privilege.hence why there’s so little gun crime in the uk.we don’t all believe you have the right to shoot people for being on your lawn or disagreeing.

[@andyfry745]

@@DM-ur8vc no doubt your American? I’ve a home in Orlando too so fully aware of the law stateside and in the uk.i mentioned something that’s true! You don’t like it? So what?…after 25 years in Orlando I’ve never needed a gun.yet to get one is so easy.proud of the uk laws as they a majority of the time keep us safe.if your trying to pick a fight on this topic try the government for answers.you don’t has the intellectual knowledge or participation to do this with me.good day sir!

[@lukerogers6133]

If I were you I’d get a better command of the English language, and learn that laws in the US vary from state to state before larping as some great intellect on this subject.

[@sheepsfoot2]

@@andyfry745 instead you have stabbings and acid attacks ! ?

[@dave_724]

I think this guy is due compensation and his ticket back completely unacceptable to cause damage to someone’s property and enter without a warrant

[@wynwilliams6977]

it isn't america they don't need a judges warrant

[@jas20per]

I feel the major point has been missed. It should be if the police withdraw your Licence and seize your gins and a court case ends up that they where acting in the wrong they as a force should be made to pay all plaintiff court costs plus unlimited damages. This I am sure would stop the police acting like Zealot's using any small excuse to to seize firearms.

[@PSUQDPICHQIEIWC]

That sounds nice, but why would an unaccountable government want agents who are accountable to the people? The present form of the problem describes the entire history of ill intent and perverse incentives which brought us to this point.

[@jas20per]

@@PSUQDPICHQIEIWC It is all well and good standing there and wringing your hands saying that is the way it has been all along, Continual lobbying of MP's will do for a start. Also it is possible to take up private prosecutions against Chief constables but usually the threat of that from a person with money can make things move. We in this country need to be like the French when governments do things the public do not like they complain in a big way. The British public just like siting on their hands for an easy life, while successive governments have removed their freedoms and rights inch by inch. I am so glad that I am nearing the end of my allotted time on this planet because in the end governments will have the populations as highly taxed serfs all filling the pockets of the few in power.

[@williambaird8807]

To take them to court is civil . Your risk your home unless your rich enough to afford to loose say £40k that’s 20k for your costs and 20 k for the police . Stick their gun where the sun don’t shine. It’s their guns not yours . You only allow to keep them and use where they say you can and can take them away at will

[@jas20per]

@@williambaird8807 Is that all you can come up with, people have lost more than that fighting for their principals. Get your head out of the sand MP Stella Braveman last week and Teresa May have both put forward that Britain should leave the European Convention on Human Tights. You are pontificating on a subject you only have a glancing knowledge on sadly. If you want to continue using guns for sport and may be further generations in this country, sportsmen need to form a body like the American rifle association WHO DO TAKE GOVERNMENT TO TASK if they try to pass Draconian laws over gun keeping and also unfair licence removal from individuals. As I said this will not effect me but it is common knowledge in high political and Police circles is that the long game is to remove ALL Firearms out of the hands of the British public. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!

[@stevejh69]

Each officer that conducted this break and entry, should be forced to pay all costs and compensation!

[@mikepxg6406]

They were allowed in.

[@stevejh69]

@@mikepxg6406You missed the point. They bullshyted a minor and bullied him into believing they had a right of entry! They should be charged. Or preferably worse!

[@MrT01582]

Try listening 🙄

[@lordduvet1141]

except they have a right to enter any property listed on a licence .

[@solidustiger9639]

​@@lordduvet1141except the didn't have that

[@thevalleygate625]

That level of resources being used up on this dude yet other non-citizen types can walk around carrying machetes yet no response? Shocking failure of the system.

[@Odysseusnobody]

Join the Irish and start removing your cultural enrichment

[@LTPottenger]

It's working just as they want it, citizens disarmed and invaders terrorizing them.

[@paddypibblet846]

It's not a failure. It's by design. And I think you know this, but might be too scared to accept it.

[@thevalleygate625]

@@paddypibblet846 not scared. fully aware. it is a controlled demolition.

[@Kalus_Saxon]

The public failed to hold the politicians and police to account so now they think they can do what they like….

[@OldDocSilver]

A few months after we split up we find out she’s pregnant…….dude….have you thought about a paternity test?

[@0101-s7v]

No kidding. And I bet she initiated divorce.

[@lmaoroflcopter]

Does it really matter? He wants the kid, he considers it his own. All a paternity test would do is possibly result in him having to cut ties with someone he considers his own son.

[@Lucius_murrius]

​@@lmaoroflcopter are you joking raising kids aren't yours is the worst thing you can do at least not this way

[@lmaoroflcopter]

@@Lucius_murrius Wat?

[@sicks6six]

the guy is soft and she is working him for everything she can get, but he is allowing it to happen, he will jump through all the hoops she puts out for him like an obedient dog. . its terrible to watch,

[@MrT01582]

My ex tried doing exactly this when I moved in with her 'do you know I can get the police and get you thrown out' ffs and she's a social worker with issues big issues and now works with the police .......glad I got out when I did

[@mrsteve170]

The police is a wonder job for people like that. It gives them the power to abuse. Some women can have a bad experience with a man and then decide they want to punish all men.

[@pathfinderlight]

Why would you get with a social worker? Every single one of them has terrible family history and is bigoted against men.

[@russelltaylor7779]

After voluntarily giving up my licence years ago, I was told on surrendering my ammunition to West Midlands police at Lloyd house that I was going to be arrested because I had ammunition that was not on my ticket. They had misread my licence as to my allowance, after hours of sitting in a room they said I was free to go, no apology or recompense. I have no faith in our police and will not openly go out of my way to help them now in any way.

[@gardencity3558]

Same silly pigs like we have here in Canada. Too lazy to show up and investigate many crimes but glad to enforce state dictates on law abiding citizens..

[@mtkoslowski]

This is why I chose to live in America. I have 48 firearms in my two safes. You see we have the second Amendment. I could have had residency in the UK but decided to go to America where after a period of time I became a naturalized American citizen.

[@jamesan2517]

I've witnessed them, sitting in their vehicle drinking coffee and possible eating McDonnell, when clearly not taking note of vehicles overtaking in a 30mph zone when the vehicle in front is keeping to the speed limit.

[@williambaird8807]

I am with you lost my licence too years ago . I used to think police were doing a hard job now I know there worse than any criminals . There just a bunch of lying bullies

[@blakeyonthebuses]

I understand your frustration. I wouldn't help the police even if you paid me!

[@SirBigzalot]

There’s a lot of correlation between there and Australia. It’s why Americans don’t want to give up their 2a rights. People think they’re loonies but they realise governments don’t stop with the overreach.

[@AndyMacaskill]

Agreed. I think it actually goes deeper. The rest of the world who think they are loonies actually rely on Americans having 2a rights to keep relative freedom. The day America isn't free, the other governments will go power crazy.

[@Screeech9]

What has happened to U.K. ? And when did all of this start ? This is borderline surreal.

[@tony7holbr]

Police state

[@SuperAd1980]

It started when we lost the right to bare arms.

[@paddypibblet846]

1960s cultural revolution

[@michaelbritain5546]

Just like America they don't want law-abiding people having guns, can take 12 Months or more to get a firearms certificate....

[@michaelbritain5546]

​@SuperAd1980 we never lost that right, it's still in statue law but they do everything possible to restrict it.

[@geoffmorsby4266]

Same in Australia, we have a saying regarding police, “Hard on soft targets and soft on hard targets”. We also have the problem where State Parliaments are abdicating their democratic role and allowing some State police forces to govern by regulation, Western Australia particularly are working toward total prohibition of recreational firearms, meanwhile the criminals can do as they please.

[@jackdbur]

In New South Wales there have been multiple incidents of police documentation of firearms holders details being accessed by criminals to rob their firearms safes!

[@jellybryce7742]

those cops are thugs.

[@johnclarke9498]

Very true

[@keithdouble1440]

All cops are thugs

[@ChristianFrench1]

Has he written to his MP about this? This demonisation of lawful gun owners needs to stop.

[@highlandrab19]

Wtf is the mp gonna do other than add him to a terrorist watch list

[@wayneholmes637]

I had something similar happen. My wife at the time decided she wanted rid of me so started making accusations that resulted, among other things, in me losing all of my firearms and explosives license (I reloaded my own ammunition). Soon fell into severe depression which will prevent me ever having guns again and now live on a small disability pension because of all the stuff she did.

[@fieldsportstv]

Please get in touch with me [e-mail]

[@yelyab1]

Why are people who are interested in firearms as a hobby, a competitive sport, hunting for subsistence or part of a family tradition automatically characterized as a mental case. I’ve been challenged and my interest is technical. I’m an engineer and the mechanisms and pyrotechnics are technically fascinating. They question that reason as if it’s a contrived reason. I hope I’m never in a situation where I have to make a decision to use a gun for self defense. In the USA that has become such a complex decision process. Avoidance is a more powerful deterrent.

[@thorgrimb2416]

All I see on this is a case of armed robbery by a gang, criminal damage and theft of firearms each and every officer should face a min of 10 years behind bars, sacked automatically with loss of pension and banned from ever owning any form of gun even an airgun.

[@perarduaadastra873]

As an RFD, our family business has been shut down on four occasions totalling over 7 years, ongoing. Police always manufacturing something out of nothing, civil servants refusing any responsibility. Bill Harriman of BASC says a Sporting Gun Regulator Act is required to ensure logic and proportionate response from Police Licensing in the same manner as the 2021 Forensic Science Regulator Act. In France, sporting gun licensing has been removed from Police administration.

[@martinswiney2192]

Im just a dumb American, surrounded by guns as I type this, what is an RFD? If the story told I missed it.

[@perarduaadastra873]

@@martinswiney2192 The FFL equivalent; Registered Firearms Dealer.

[@martinswiney2192]

@@perarduaadastra873 thank you.

[@SuperAd1980]

We need to right to bare arms back in the UK. And the right to defend ourselves back too.

[@woogle463]

@@SuperAd1980 Just as wages in the UK are 1/3 of any other western country to ensure that the lower classes don't mobilise, we'll never get fairer gun laws.

[@spencereagle1118]

Of course the firearms and shotguns will be added to the stats of 'firearms seized' to make the police look good.

[@littlehills739]

yep - alsoo sick of media reporting gun crime with now laws requiring them to say it was stolen or unregistered.

[@geraldabeyawardena5606]

Are their statistics of seized firearms 'lost'?

[@ibunn309]

I find myself in a similar situation so found this very useful, early April 2024, 2 weeks after my wife announces she wants a divorce I have a visit from the police for a 'welfare check' on the wife. This resulted in them wanting to seize my guns, they were already with an RFD in case of 3rd party influences, they did seize 2 sub 12lbs/ft PCP air rifles and took my certificates, I challenged their decision but they said they would be taking them, they also refused to provide a receipt. I am currently waiting for the air rifles to be returned as the the FEO said they should not have been taken but a decision on the certificates could take upto a year! I wish good luck to anyone else in a similar situation 🍀

[@mtkoslowski]

They won’t let you keep air rifles? 🇬🇧🇺🇸

[@Retiredatlast65]

Move to America, and become a free citizen.😊

[@brianhitchmough6628]

All I can suggest is if you feel that a personal situation with an “ ex” is starting to escalate…register your guns with a firearms dealer in good time PRIOR to a visit by the swat team. I know you shouldn’t have to, but unfortunately there are certain ladies out there that get a little grieved over things and know how to manipulate the law with a simple phone call. It appears it’s getting worse and worse.

[@ibunn309]

I agree, I actually stored my licensed firearms at a registered firearms dealer within 12 hours of being told she wanted a divorce in case of third party influences

[@diskopartizan0850]

​@mtkoslowski the police incorrectly seized two air rifles in this instance. Air rifles over 12ft/lbs need a FAC in the UK, under that you don't. Good luck op!

[@Kickn_NZ]

The sooner people realize the police aren't there to protect you, they're there to get a conviction on someone, ANYONE, the better.

[@peterphipps791]

For a Kiwi to say this is sad. Same here in OZ. Facing 2 false cases here and your statement is 100% true. Fines aka REVENUE.

[@jameskirk3]

Too many people think that police are there to help you. Their job is to arrest people and create fines. Period. If you call them, they will try to arrest someone or generate fines, since that's their job. Do not call the police to help you de-escalate something. They won't do that. I made that mistake once, calling then to get them to cone by and stop my girlfriend from hitting me and attacking me. They arrested me because she told them I had made a threat. They never once interviewed me, and they didn't ask her if she had attacked me. So yeah, please don't call the police if you expect help. They won't give it.

[@lakevna]

We need an utter, nationwide, reform and return to Peelian policing. We probably need to abolish the home office, policing-by-law has failed outright.

[@pjcamp1on]

this is one for fathers 4 justice , get that poor kid away from that poisonous woman. she's jealous the kid is close to his father and wants to break that bond.

[@Goodman849]

She's probably a witch

[@carlwackan5909]

I know someone that had a similar expirience with the police, he went on to sue them and they settled out of court... it's ridiculous that they claimed to have the right do as they liked and when it was all reviewed they simply didn't...! as proved by not wanting to have it out infront of a judge...!

[@deez.knurtz925]

From Texas Take it back Brits, for the Love of God 🇬🇧🇺🇸

[@nunya3163]

Women who make these false claims, need to spend the rest of their lives in prison.

[@davidbilbrough3726]

What risk assesment? 500 came into the country a couple of weekends ago!

[@HorusHerotic]

Monthly. It's all by design.

[@JayG-ud7yb]

Lawful distruction of private property? No warrant? Huh? I am lost

[@vincentsubmarinismo774]

Obviously a very gentle guy, outrageous the way hes been treated by the police.

[@higgydufrane]

Phil Waymouth, you are an incredibly level-headed man. I don't know how you stayed so calm. I am very happy that you are so in control of your emotions. I wish you well.

[@zombieapocalypse3837]

George Orwell doesn't know how right he was when he completed writing his novel, 1984.

[@Trimtank]

The same things are happening in Canada. We have very strict laws and controls over weapons, handguns, firearms but the gun owners are treated like criminals. Sad

[@rickrussell8382]

Its a sad state here in Canada. There is no law except what the government decides to enforce. Western nations are eating themselves.

[@billienomates1606]

A firearms/shotgun holder is more law abiding than the average citizen in my opinion. It is only the ignorance of people and police who have zero understanding of the disciplines/responsibility involved in having the privilege of possessing firearms/shotguns that fosters this negative public attitude. Over the decades I have owned many firearms and shotguns, but also been a police officer in Surrey and an NRA member for many years. Shooting at Bisley near where I lived for many years. I have seen the ignorance many have towards shooters and place us in the same category as criminals who use firearms/shotguns to break the law. I have overtime sold all my firearms and recently sold all my shotguns. Mainly because I find the actual Firearms licensing departments to be inept and in some cases lacking knowledge in the field they should understand. I could not stand having to deal with them when it came to renewing my licence/permit every four years so the guns had to go. It is a sad state of affairs that just because you enjoy shooting you should be persecuted for being a law abiding citizen just because of your hobby.

[@brojohns4689]

The thought police are alive and well. What happen to evidence based investigation. So much wrong with this action.

[@EmpireSafaris]

He should not have to talk to the police without a Lawyer

[@ryanm7097]

And certainly his father shouldn't have let the police in without presenting a search warrant

[@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069]

A police woman in domestic situations will nine times out of ten escalate the situation and make it bigger than it usually is , let's all be honest now woman are emotionally temperamental for at least two and a half weeks of the month , totally irrational for at least one week , and this day an age a good majority of modern police women hate men , this has always been another case I've always said under no circumstances should any woman be allowed in the armed responce unit , there just not emotionally balanced , MARRIED 37 YEARS

[@pcka12]

The reason for the 'emotionally temperamental' behaviour is that 'nature' is anticipating pregnancy which is repeatedly disappointed in the modern world.

[@Dug_Out]

100% on that👍 They use a policy called the Duluth Model. It was taken from an incident in Duluth, USA where police incompetence led to a woman being murdered by a partner or ex partner. They adopted a policy whereby all males involed in any domestic incident they attended was automatically arrested, even if there was no violence reported. The male could have been the one reporting but still got locked up. Thames Valley Police adopted the same policy after also failing a woman who was subsequently murdered. I have been on the recieving end of the Duluth Model at the hands of TVP, even though there was no violence. The Duluth Model was heavily pushed by rabid feminist lobby groups back in the early 2000's & the UK police willingly took it up.

[@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069]

@@Dug_Out 100 percent mate , you know the craic 👍🍻

[@LTPottenger]

They are all stocked up on media nonsense to hate men and normalcy and embrace idiocy and injustice.

[@rolandsmith2141]

I’m very pro women but your spot on, facts are facts

[@sitcorocket]

I worked in firearms licensing a couple of years ago and you would not believe the amount of intel and information that gets sent in regarding certificate holders and " he shouldnt have them cos of this" and " hes getting divorced" and " he's off work with depression cos his mums died".etc etc....every case has to be looked at and a judgement call made, we honestly didn't just blanket get confiscation of the guns as the default setting. Sadly its that extreme minority where it results in tragedy that has set the bar for how the dept responds. Honestly they are good people who are overwhelmed at times by often vixatious accusations.

[@williambaird8807]

Nah sorry bud don’t believe a word . I know how firearms licensing works and they ain’t any nice people just doing things for public safety . It’s bullies showing there power and what they can do . Good laugh in the locker room.

[@nigelgibbens9864]

And what is being done to stop this disgusting behavior by the police

[@SargentSkroonk]

Abused men are not alone. Allegations are not fact. Take the high road and use the legal system to secure your children from abusers.

[@SuperAd1980]

Unfortunately the family court system says not.

[@sammytracey3935]

You lot need to have the legal capacity to sue for police misconduct. And lastly my brother if you feel up to it come here to the US , you and your hobbies would be very welcome here , since you like beaches I hear Tampa, Florida is very nice 😊 I sincerely hope you are able to get through this unjust hardship from the law enforcement.

[@morganbrickwall7902]

My wife threw everything in the book at me after she filed for divorce, eventually we reconciled. Later when I asked her why she accused me of all those things she said "it was the lawyer who did it", BS, angry women will cut off their nose to spite their face and will do it with the full power and backing of courts.

[@erroneous6947]

You’re a fool for going back to a woman who lied about you in court. A total and complete fool.

[@TheAcenightcreeper]

Bro…thats a lie…why woukd you ever get back with a woman who…at best…was willing to destroy your life at the direction of someone else? But we all know thats a lie…she was complicit with the plan…lawyers act on your approval… No offense, but you will 100% regret your decision and you will 100% end up divorced. Im sorry, its the facts…a good woman recognizes incompatibility is nobodies fault and agrees to cordially go on their way…your wife has mental issues if she is willing to harm someone she “loves”…toss her ass tomthe streets before you end up in a worse situation.

[@Beauloqs]

More fool you.

[@robertthomas5906]

Destroying the safes was totally un-necessary. All they had to do was ask him to open them. When they determined that his lying ex-wife was making another criminally liable accusation they should have returned his guns right then, right where they were, and arrested his ex for attempted murder by cop. That's what we're really talking about. Gin up the cops to the point they could kill him and take care of her problem. Women seem to never face consequences for their actions against men. Men often face the muzzle of a gun, sometimes many muzzles, tasers, etc. They did nothing wrong. He should get all his guns, ammo back and full custody of the kid. BTW, he should make sure it's his kid. He wouldn't be the first guy a woman lied about who the father is. She may know he's not the father. Just sayin'.

[@Goodman849]

Women are expert liars

[@erroneous6947]

Amen. We live in a female supremacy. Female teachers get away with sex with underage student, women get a free pass when making false allegations. Men are automatically guilty while a female or other minority can do whatever they want. F’ing ridiculous.

[@danroseveare3090]

There should be a psychological assessment done on the accuser(s) before ANY action is taken against anyone accused. Many people these days are given far too much benefit of the doubt. These cops were in the wrong, 100%.

[@adsaccuracy]

Worst than living in Russia. What the hell is going on?

[@Dirtypepants]

You are good man. Your boy will be an young adult soon and can make his own mind up. Be patient you have a whole life together you can make amends if needed and support him %100 in a few years good luck.

[@karlj1717]

This is completely wrong on so many levels, not only has he been treated like a criminal he’s also had something that he enjoys doing taken away from him, this man should be given everything back, compensation, his safe replaced and a full apology from the police.

[@Gshock25able]

ive been in the same situation..went though a separation police took my firearms for 3 years ...because it took that amount of time for the courts to finish my separation,.ive got them all back but I myself are stereotyped..everytime the doorbell rings im in fear of the police taking them away ...its absolute bullshit

[@prizecowproductions]

These type of women need to be held to account for their actions. Willing to lie or do anything to get what they want.

[@ThomasDoubting5]

It will never happen

[@jasond9327]

I just don't understand why this dude isn't suing the met and demanding compensation for all damage, harassment and not honouring his right as a citizen.

[@Jin-Ro]

As soon as you said "She tried to stop me seeing the kid.." filling in the rest was easy. And women wonder why we say they're crazy. What always surprises me is how the Social Services, Courts and Police still act so naively once the woman starts acting up. They've seen it hundreds of thousands of times, yet act like they were born yesterday. We need massive reform in Family courts, social and policing.

[@MrWrob32]

I know exactly how it feels to have false allegations made against you, by a bitter ex. There then is no innocent until proven guilty, the onus is on you to prove that you're innocent. The sad thing about it is, it's usually good dads that it happens to, while it's the children that suffer most. I'm pretty sure his ex knew exactly what she was doing in making that allegation, not only denying him access to his child, but also taking away his hobby. Hope he pursues compensation for both himself and his dad

[@richardgiles2484]

Something similar happened to a friend who had split up with his wife. But nothing to do with guns. She mad a complaint to the police and it was down to him to prove otherwise but luckily for him he could. But it was 12mths of stress and cost he really didn't need 😢😢

[@richardorsulich4698]

DO NOT GET MARRIED

[@finngamesknudson1457]

Not enough. More and more a woman claiming to have ever had a relationship with you can lie to cops and have you red flagged.

[@Goodman849]

Yes 100%

[@PeterC245]

Absolutely

[@mtkoslowski]

If you’re happy about losing 50% of everything you own go ahead. Then out of spite she’ll make all kinds of allegations while working on how to poison your children’s minds. When I got divorced I gave her the house just to avoid the pain of a court fight. Then I met an amazing woman and we were married for 38 years until cancer took her from me. I’ll never get married again.

[@Goodman849]

I'm even hesitant to marry my filipina

[@skf957]

A few years ago my ex-wife manipulated one of her relatives by telling her that I'd been running amok in the house brandishing my shotgun and rifle in a threatening manner. Of course, the relative was rightly (but incorrectly, as I abide by all of the rules around my FAC and s/g licenses) concerned and called the police. The first that I knew of it was when two of them turned up on the doorstep. The upshot was that I was given the choice of voluntarily surrendering the guns or having them removed. I chose the former, and to this day the guns are being stored, at my cost, at an RFD. In due course I received a letter from the police saying that I could retain my certificates and that I had done nothing wrong. To achieve a fair balance on the inevitable file that will exist, I too wrote a letter setting out my side of things. This prompted a phone call from the police firearms officer, but to be fair to him it was all sorted out. Except I can't have the guns back until I am "more settled" in terms of where I live. I regret not preempting the situation by moving the guns to the RFD - without my ex's knowledge. She would still have made the complaint and been actually proven to have made an unfounded allegation.

[@shanemizell6468]

This is a great example of why a registry and red flag laws are terrible ideas. The right of the people to keep and bear shall not be infringed. I empathize for him.

[@bobbywilson9468]

Stay Strong/Safe 🙏🏼💪🏽💯!!! The Truth Will set you Free!!! Be Blessed and a Blessing! "We The People By The People For The People" United We Stand Divided We Fall...🛐 Eyes Wide Open NOT Eyes Wide Shut. 2A All The Way.!. #Gold #Silver

[@SANDSCORCHER]

I’m not surprised by this entire scenario in the slightest. ‘Set a thief to catch a thief’ as the saying goes. The insurance discussed sounds absolutely indispensable. Good to know for future reference 👍🏻

[@ecleveland1]

I hope this guy can sue his ex wife and the police. I don’t know what the laws are in Britain but I hope they offer protection from what he’s going through.

[@daylightdies7194]

Unlikely I’m afraid women have most of the power hear in regards to falsely accusing someone if you don’t get a remotely competent police officers of magistrate you’re screwed

[@juliocintron9447]

I went through something similar thank goodness the judge saw she was being bitter after several years i won full custody of my son best of luck to you

[@TheWolfsnack]

I agree....target shooting is almost a Zen like experience for me...when I was in therapy for PTSD my therapist was 10% in favour of the activity. What is very scary to me is that the current government here in Canada is pushing for the same kind of firearms regulation....despite it not stopping the daily gang murders across the country, and a mass shooter who obtained his firearms illegally from the US using a government issues Nexus card.

[@borisj4054]

Would be nice if we in Australia could buy such insurance. However all the insurance companies seem to be anti gun as well.

[@Phat_Plants]

OMG how horrible i hope it gets sorted ASAP and she faces the consequences

[@mikebrennan9898]

I can confirm all he says ,my ex made up a story and my guns were seized

[@paulwatson9217]

And the big one that wasn’t even mentioned here is, his guns that have been taken to a RFD he will be getting a storage fee on going until this is resolved or up until the storage fees surpass the value of the firearms and then what? WHO KNOWS!

[@thisisnotmyid_]

I grew up with my father shooting here and there. I've always wanted to get into shooting here, but it's the attitudes towards firearms owners from the police that thoroughly deter me. When I was younger, someone who was not a member of the police, but someone who identified themselves as part of a random inspection group made a visit to our house. My Dad was suffering from illness, and despite the secure storing of all firearms at all times, being unable to be accessed by me or anyone else other than the license owner. Despite this, this person removed all firearms from the property, having determined he was unfit to ensure the security of the firearms whilst he was unable to move upstairs to his locked cabinet, in a locked room for which the keys were on his person only at all times. For years, every effort was made to get these firearms back, but in the wake of the Raul Moat shootings, there was no chance whatsoever that North Yorkshire police would be understanding of the situation. No warrants, no warnings, no discussions. All removed by someone who was not a member of the Police, but instead a volunteer. More or less an ego boost to walk into the station with a 22lr bolt action and double barrelled shotgun as far as we could tell, from the disgusting and confrontational attitude from this random woman. With this, I'm sure you can understand I have absolutely no faith that even if I was able to start shooting, at some point the police will find a reason to take them from me, despite my obvious intention to be a legally registered and responsible firearms owner. But no, horror stories and my own experience has killed any form of motivation for me to get into it. Which of course will only make the community smaller. This will only get worse as time goes on unfortunately.

[@dennisobrien2578]

Its things like this that worry me. America isn’t perfect either, we have our share problems.

[@ste1872]

Why cant they go after the illegal guns that are on the streets instead of targeting innocent people absolutely ridiculous i hope you sue them for it 💯

[@daylightdies7194]

Unfortunately there are anti gun groups hear that condone this that don’t believe law abiding citizens should be allowed any form of legal shooting . Removing someone’s enjoyment is pathetic this man needs this as he said it’s his escape from the stress of life .

[@andyfirecone5044]

I seriously cannot watch this all the way through. What in Gods name are the police doing here??? So sorry to hear what this poor man and his son have gone through because of this lunatic woman is beyond belief. I hope she gets suitably punished for wasting police time and harassing him.

[@perarduaadastra873]

All certificate holders are now asked to sign away on paperwork in applying for an FAC and or Shotgun Certificate any right to refuse Police entry at any time to one’s home. Any contact with Police places people at risk. PERIOD. There is zero nuance, no balance, no proportionate response and no logic. Any contact with a mentally ill person, someone with a personality disorder, a grudge, any allegation malicious, imaginary, results in an immediate removal of licensed firearms, knee jerk reactions. To be a Certificate Holder is to place oneself voluntarily upon a Police Register, treated worse than the S-X Offenders Register for having guns in addition to a P~~~S. There is no safety and no respect.

[@matthewcummings9024]

That would never stand up in court. Take them to court and make them pay the costs!

[@finngamesknudson1457]

Wow the UK is draconian. While there is some beauty in the UK, it is overwhelmed by your tyrannical government. So glad I’m free of that. Good reminder for why we in US need to remain politically active - our government aspires to match or exceed yours.

[@NWFressshhh]

I'd heard that British law does not recognize women as capable of the R word, but I'd not think it advisable to fall into the habit of thinking of women as incapable of S offense, as seems to be implied by, "...only one has guns in addition to a male appendage."

[@perarduaadastra873]

@@NWFressshhh Thank you. I agree. Usually I use the less gentle and less genteel P word in the description and have thus reverted.

[@Hunter1968]

This is what a domestic break up can result in. When a wife is intent on causing trouble..... everyone believes them. The authorities always believe the worst instead of doing their jobs and investigating the allegations first.

[@johngurganus3348]

Same here in the USA. Courts are stacked against the men.

[@jeffreytimmerman6905]

This is the " common sense" gun laws that our liberal politicians speak of.

[@Lapua50]

See what’s happening in Western Australia!!!🇦🇺

[@fringeminority150]

0:37 They do love this !

[@michaelcarter3161]

Why haven't you sued the police for wrongful arrest, illegal entry, without a warrant, wilful vandalism and destruction of your property, deformation of character and causing you undue stress and anxiety, intimidation and wrongful imprisonment. Oh, and not feeding you, because you have allergies is not an excuse to starve you. That is also dereliction of duty and torture. Don't let them get away with it. They will think they can do it to everyone.

[@oso9809]

Right at the beginning of the interview, I knew a woman was involved.

[@theodoreyoung7946]

This is what bothers me most about red flag laws. Someone just out for vengeance can literally destroy your life and forno good reason except pure hate using lies.

[@Skwisgar2322]

No, I'm sorry, don't give jackboots credit for wearing nice shoes while they tread on your back. Don't say they are giving signs of goodwill while they violate your god-given human rights.

[@Dr.Gunsmith]

Once the armed police booted my door off it’s hinges, came in trashed my house and smashed my gun safe to pieces, I only had air rifles in it. then arrested me, later i found out the did not even have a warrant also they arrested me on suspicion of attempted murder with robbery, all because someone apparently told them it was me at a crime scene apparently, they had video of the perpetrator that was clearly a drug addict and looking absolutely nothing like me, I also was with my family all day and night and shopping at the time on camera with witnesses, they took loads of my home belongings, that I still never got back, I was let go the next day without any explanation or apology nothing, I was younger and didn’t know any better and was scared out of my life. They take liberties for sure.

[@dominicalexander2419]

In this day and age I can see why the guns were confiscated BUT I can’t for the life of me understand why they couldn’t have just got a warrant (can be done very quickly) and asked for the keys when he returned from the police station. It’s ridiculous.

[@radricster]

Sometimes judges say no. Easier to just go take them by force, and make the owner jump thru expensive hoops to get them back. Like here in Canada, many times the police know full well they don't have a case against a firearm owner that they can win with in court. But political pressure is to make seizures and arrests, and try to bankrupt the firearm owner by letting the case drag thru the courts for years. It's known as "The punishment IS the process" here.

[@honestjohn5267]

My heart genuinely goes out to this gentleman, There’s no justice here, just a vindictive woman doing all she can to hurt him. … But,with the right people (family and friends)❤around you it is possible to bounce back! I wish you all the best for you and your son’s future,sir!

[@Gunoke-fd6bc]

I am a licensed firearms dealer and Class 3 dealer (Suppressors, Machinegun, SBRS/SBS) in the US. I've dealt with bs earlier in life, same kind of thing, a nasty (wife) as we were going through a divorce. My guns were taken, thankfully, I was in the US Military and I had legal representation by a military lawyer and they ordered my firearms returned, since the case was like this pure harassment. The only personal effects I do care about are my firearms and these kind of tactics-events pain me. I'm amazed how calm he is I would have wanted her head on a pike for causing me this level of anguish. This guys needs a go-fund me, I would gladly contribute to help him get his firearms back.

[@NWFressshhh]

It's a touchy situation for the poor guy. Demonstrating an iota of frustration could be used as evidence of his fitness to have a firearm, given how capricious the British system seems to be.

[@eldiablo7862]

Yep, happy to be a gun owner in the USA......I'd be upset if someone messed with my Ma Duece.

[@ToreDL87]

@@NWFressshhh Yeah he's way better off appearing completely calm and rational at any given time.

[@CantonSecurity]

This guy sounds like a Chad… he really knows his guns, very well spoken. Much love from the US, brother. Fight the good fight.

[@aileronsintowind6835]

Ok, after a separation i was subjected to false allegations. The best thing to do in any of these cases is to surrender your firearms before to a RFD. That’s what I did and the RFD held my firearms free of charge whilst the police investigated. I knew what was coming as she had made threats about it previously. I now have all my firearms but not after having a full investigation and a battle to have my license reinstated. The main thing here that this person didn’t do, is to inform the police of such things like court orders etc. It says it on the declaration that any changes to your circumstances must be reported. He can now also file a defamation claim against his ex partner, the police can be sued for damages and for trespassing. I would have been reporting all this to the FLO in order to protect myself. Infact I did it the other day when my Ex had a massive bust up with my daughter and when I turned up started screaming that she had been a domestic abuse case previously because of me. I had logged my concerns prior to arriving at the property and had an officer on standby ready to attend. Main thing to remember.. cover your arse when dealing with ex partners. If you think they won’t escalate and talk BS then think again.

[@KiwiCatherineJemma]

Pictures were shown of the damage done to the gun-safe, to me that looks nothing but OUTRIGHT VANDALISM ! If the police can turn up with a full kit of tools to BRUTE FORCE the gun-safe open (instead of using the keys, which are likely held by the actual police in London, as they had the guy in custody already).... so they didn't want to use the keys, which other police had possession of. Plus a locksmith would have cost, what about fifty UK pounds or approx $ 100, and he could have picked the locks open in less minutes than it took the police to vandalise and destroy a gun safe worth UK 500 pounds. If he succeeds in getting his firearms licence back, he will have to pay another 500 UK pounds of his own money to buy a new gun-safe. Also, why was the gun-safe actually removed and taken away ? Once the cops had brute forced it open and taken all the guns and ammunition, why did they take the damaged safe as well ? Is it illegal for someone without a valid firearms licence to have a damaged safe containing nothing but air, on their premises ? Outright vandalism and theft. Every cop involved should be sacked and lose all their accrued paid-pension entitlements. Here on the far side of the world, I have heard SO MUCH SHITE about the UK POOLICE targetting lawful firearms owners in the UK, that I think it's well time that UK police were removed entirely from the licencing system. Maybe have a whole new system of allowing Firearm's Dealers to approve licences ? Tell the Fuzz "Sorry mate, you've just gone too far, too often" and remove the UK Police from the firearms licencing system entirely.

[@StevenCopeland-co2xt]

I had my shotgun and ammunition seized after an accusation by a family member which could not have happened as at the time I was on a transatlantic flight. The investigating officer said that she knew I couldn't have committed the crime and that they had him on record as having psychiatric issues after a public order incident but they were too busy to investigate immediately. It took over 2 years of being bailed every 6 months, all I got from them was a letter stating the charges had been dropped, no apology.

[@robinwells8879]

When the authorities are more criminal than the people they purport to protect us from. 😢

[@civiprepper]

Same thing happened to me. Guess what, a false alegation of violence is enough for them to sieze your rifles and force the licenses to be revoked. Once you have had them refused, try getting another. It's very difficult. The insurance is indeed very important. I wish at the time i had had it.

[@chrisnas4]

Unfortunately this has nothing to do with firearms but the way police treat men especially fathers. I can testify 1st hand experience of simular treatment by Avon and somerset police while trying to get a dna test done for my daughter. After my arrest the mother forged a solicitors letter and DNA result which I had no idea was fake. 16 years later the mother got in contact telling me she'd lied and forged everything. I'm still in shock and gutted. I've written to my MP, as well as the police and crime commissioner but as you'd expect I've heard nothing back.

[@LeandroDstuart]

The courts will not address your family case issues, because if they do a lot more cases of misuse of the courts against men will have to be reopened! Unfortunately my experience with the UK system has been an eye opener. This man should be applauded for how he’s carried himself.

[@cpuuk]

Reminds me of a friend of mine who (many years ago) was dressed as a cosplay character, holding a fantasy replica firearm, armed police turned up. The Police applied zero common sense to the situation, they could see it wasn't even real, but arrested him anyway. A waste of everyone's time.

[@juliemunoz2762]

This is the difference of mentality between serfs and citizens. Thank god our founding fathers recognized man’s fundamental rights which are not granted by government and can’t be taken away by government.