Shooter stops police seizing his guns

Are British shooters too obedient? Armed Devon & Cornwall police officers have been turning up at shooters homes, often during darkness, and seizing their guns. Many of these shooters have had their guns for decades. One of them also servces on the regional crime squad. But whil most shooters agree to hand over the guns and surrender their certificates without a fuss, Chris Hart from Plymtree successfully saw off the top police who came to his house.
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[@KeithKman]

Imagine seizing people’s cars because one person, you don’t know or never met, drove drunk. They are using this type of thinking to seize firearms from law abiding citizens based on one person’s actions.

[@dknowles60]

Let them try we will be glad to spank the fed government like we did at Ruby ridge. Dems never learn the more they talk guns the more they get spanked

[@lancevance47]

But cars are dangerous. I dont feel safe driving one in a legal safe manner, i might kill myself or others accidentaly. therefore no one should be allowed to drive ever.

[@mdredheadguy1979]

This is blatant discrimination!

[@mdredheadguy1979]

@@lancevance47 I'm hoping you are being sarcastic, because my sarcasm detector isn't working right now.

[@FumblsTheSniper]

Imagine someone stealing a car and then driving over someone with it leading to cars being restricted.

[@Trid3nt861]

"When the people fear the government there is tyranny. When the government fears the people there is freedom" - *Thomas Jefferson*

[@skankhunt3624]

Thanks for America.

[@GuapoJhimi]

Yeah buddy.

[@sgtshortstack578]

America is under tyranny rn.... but I dont fear the ATF, they are weak minded terrorists

[@fackeyutub-emael6545]

Yet the police all over the world are payed by the government making freedom impossible

[@colinmcmb]

Not everything said by Jefferson is intelligent. If only he'd made it rhyme.

[@brodieduncan7885]

Imagine having to talk to the police about anything without a warrant

[@thefiestaguy8831]

Common misconception. Police don't always need a warrant to attend an address and use reasonable force to gain entry, under certain circumstances they can do so without a warrant, see Section 17 of PACE.

[@occamraiser]

FFS you sound like an American - go and live there with a red hat and vote for trump. Your opinions are neither welcome here nor representative of the views of the sane part of society.

[@shaunmcminn70]

@@spikefunakoshi5667 what education haha

[@JamesThomas-kx5sj]

​@@BadgerBobNot sure about the UK but cops in the US explicitly do not need to know the laws as long as they think they're doing the right thing. "Qualified immunity" they call it.

[@mattersabo3117]

​@@spikefunakoshi5667yeah you need a degree.......

[@wesmatron]

If that guy had written the firearms on his certificate himself he'd have been in a world of trouble. Sounds like an attempt at entrapment.

[@vanpallandt5799]

having worked for the govt sounds like a typical cock up more like.

[@TheNinja691]

My thought too. If they then don’t declare them all, it justifies the police to ban one from owning guns. Wake up people, the government don’t want people owning guns!

[@vanpallandt5799]

@@TheNinja691 he got a blank certificate and he contacted the issuer..i once had a uniform that had different rank markings between one sleeve and another and the button holes and buttons not in a matchign pattern

[@scottcantdance804]

@@vanpallandt5799 I've never had experience with the British government, but from having had plenty of experience with the American government, it sounds like someone giving very poor advice because they don't know laws that they absolutely should be familiar with, considering that it's their job. Honestly, from all of my experience with various local, state, and federal government agencies in America, I'm just very impressed that you guys can get a human on a phone to speak with.

[@vanpallandt5799]

@@scottcantdance804 well, of the 2 incidents mentioned, clearly send it back was the appropriate advice

[@TroutButter]

If the government says: "You don't need a gun" YOU NEED A GUN

[@getthegoons]

It doesn't matter if they are trying to install tyranny right now or not, if they take your guns they can do it whenever they want without fear.

[@dobermanownerforlife3902]

Citation : the 20th century

[@NathanHedglin]

Every government before genocide

[@Nathdood]

Multiple* guns

[@2pugman]

Why would you tell the police that you had a new illness ?

[@democratsuck]

This video outlines perfectly what it's like to be a subject & not a free person. "But are we too obedient?" Yes. Yes you are.

[@fabian-mihaistefan5369]

This is exactly what made people run to America all those years ago in the first place, now I understand what an American citizen means when they say they're free Watching my fellow europeans measuring freedom by the amount of free healthcare or other benefits breaks my heart

[@kingcosworth2643]

Australia is the same, it's a really shit state of affairs.

[@manictiger]

@Humphreys In the rest of the world, people fear police raids. Over here, police fear doing raids on the people. There's not a more dangerous thing, than trying to disarm one of the 135 million armed U.S. citizens for no reason other than tyranny. We laugh at imbeciles like Nanci Pelosi and Joe "can't find the entrance to the White House" Biden. They will never successfully oppress the U.S.A. I literally put my life on it, as any good citizen should.

[@Carnyx_1]

@@fabian-mihaistefan5369 Look at Australia. Do you think what's happening there now would have happened before the government seized all firearms? I don't think so. Also, once you give up a right to the government, you lose the ability to not give up a right. People comply with the police regardless of their authority or lack thereof, and now, if you don't immediately submit and assist the police with any request, legal or not, you're "confrontational".

[@manictiger]

@Humphreys In the last 120 years, government-sponsored genocide is the second leading cause of preventable death, just behind the Spanish Flu of 1918. War takes distant third place.

[@mrwang420]

I like how they keep disarming everyone who not doing any of the shooting. While actual criminals are running around armed despite what ever law.

[@uphill248]

They wouldn’t dare..

[@adrunkskeleton9046]

Laws are for losers

[@billyjones9045]

kinda like how the Democrunts are turning people loose from prison

[@Levman74]

Its so hard to capture actual criminals you bigot

[@mdredheadguy1979]

That's typical of a tyrannical government.

[@basaltgranite5070]

"Man Defends Himself from Gestapo" is what the autocorrect changed to the current title.

[@cullenbigd]

I so feel for my fellow sportsmen in the UK. This is why we are heels dug in in the US on every firearms issue that comes up. Hell no!

[@tiernanwearen8096]

Give them a inch and they will give you a mile

[@NigelNaughton]

Would be a hoot to have our government try to take the millions of guns that we are contitutionally protected to own...they forget that it's actually a "God given right

[@Uberragen21]

@@guy1234484 way to quote a made up statistic. Do you realize that 99 per cent of "mass shootings" are gang and drug related? Doesn't exactly fit the narrative portrayed by the insane Leftists. Run along kiddo, this is an adult conversation.

[@FT4Freedom]

Heels dug in. No surrender.

[@FT4Freedom]

95% of people who don't like your guns have never handled or used guns. I won't bend to npc simps.

[@raygunner4970]

"When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty." - Thomas Jefferson

[@sebittyseb4481]

Good quotes right there

[@mrcaboosevg6089]

Says the slave owner, you must be quite deluded if you think America was based on freedom when Britain had to literally force you to end it but not only that you had to fight a Civil War to make it happen

[@uninterestedcat8429]

This is the one i was looking for right here

[@CoinsAndCapsaicin]

You realize this is the UK, right?

[@jameskazd9951]

@@CoinsAndCapsaicin yeah, why do you think we fought a war with them, to avoid stuff like this.

[@big-d7756]

This is why you shouldn't let government record and control you firearms.

[@wilfdarr]

Yup. In theory, I'm for licensing, but in reality, this ALWAYS ends up happening, every single time!

[@big-d7756]

@@wilfdarr agreed. Background checks are the same way. It's nice to limit how criminals can get guns but it creates a stepping stone to control and unjust restrictions on the people

[@wilfdarr]

@@big-d7756 Honestly, background checks are useless: no criminal is going to submit to a background check, and no crazy is going to go to a shrink (that's where this bloke made a mistake: great, you're diagnosed with [autism], there's no cure so...why!?). In fact they discourage fun owners from seeking mental health professionals. The reason I like licensing is that that it's a very useful tool for Guns and Gang units: any hint of an unlicensed gun gets a warrant. But then they abuse it. I wish I had a good answer (my neighbors house had 5 bullets put into it when I was a kid, so this topic is very personal to me!).

[@JonHop1]

@@wilfdarr 96% of gun crime in America is committed by Illegal weapons, and about 80% are done with guns smuggled in through our Southern Border. Gun Control should have ZERO to do with any legal gun regulation or legal gun owners. It should be about enforcing and securing our borders. When Trump was in office, illegal gun smuggling from Mexico was at an all time low as was illegal entry. The Biden completely reverses every single good border protection Trump enacted and we are right back to square 1 with illegals and fentanyl coming in by the boat loads.. Ukraine's border seems to be FAR more important than our own!

[@Hackanhacker]

not only firearms bruh

[@JustaGaibroh]

Authoritarians prefer unarmed subjects to armed citizens. It isn't about crime. It's about control.

[@josephlinden1630]

If the government cared about the safety of its Citizens it would fervently pursue harsher punishment and deterrence of violent crimes.

[@oldblack15]

​@@josephlinden1630no. It just needs people to be responsible for their actions. Stop wanting them to make more laws to enslave us. Look at America for your great idea of enforcing more laws. You are being conned by those who want more control and compliance over you.😂

[@-Hari-03]

@@josephlinden1630 exactly, yet they repeatedly let repeat offenders back out into the public and give new offenders nothing more than slaps on the wrist

[@super_happy_alien509]

@@josephlinden1630 History prove Time and time again harsher punishments breed harsher violent Crimes. its a catch 22. what you say sound good on paper does not work anywhere in the world. People do not get in to Crime coz they want to they are dragged in to it or breed in to it. the best deterrence of violent crimes is Work and keeping people Busy and food in they belly. its Fear it self or peer presser that sends people down the wrong path.

[@MorgueMage]

It’s so weird watching this stuff in the UK while being American. This kind of unreasonable harassment is exactly why people here are so against a firearms registry. State run offices make mistakes all the time, and at least here people really don’t take kindly to police knocking on their door accusing them of crimes they didn’t commit, mistakes like these can cost lives unnecessarily. They’ve got no business having this information, everyone should have the right to be in possession of an equalizer

[@briankelly8297]

It's due to a recent mass shooting over there. There's no doubt about it some people shouldnt have guns because of mental health etc. It ultimately destroy all of our rights. But these people seem like normal law abiding people.

[@Genokiller1989]

@@briankelly8297 when a Law Effects all it’s for control not for safety. They use events to justify their grip on citizens

[@vanpallandt5799]

@@Genokiller1989 speeding laws effect all, though?

[@kentuckyhiker7071]

@@vanpallandt5799 A drivers license is NOT a right here in America. It is a privilege that can be revoked. The 2nd Amendment CANNOT be revoked. And actually, ANY restriction on gun ownership is against that Constitutional Right! Educate yourself.

[@vanpallandt5799]

@@kentuckyhiker7071 i am British...this is a UK thread you are commenting on. And wasnt the Volstead Amendment revoked? Surely an amendment is just that..a change. I would be interested if its written somewhere that the 2A is irrevocable

[@whattheactualfook976]

I’m more concerned with the authorities having guns than members of the public to be honest. Still not convinced that 99% of “ incidents “ aren’t false flags to get the public sympathetic to more restrictions.

[@mikebastiat]

The whole society is a psyop, so no doubt. The state destroys everything, so that democrat types will call for help and conservative types will call for more order.

[@5jjt]

See: Operation Northwoods. A CIA plot, from the 1960's, to commit acts of ter or rism on American soil against American citizens to garner support from the American people to invade Cuba.

[@johnfrancis5673]

Look up Thomas Hamilton, the 1 who allegedly committed the "Dunblane massacre".... Freemason! you can't make this stuff up. People are programmed & mind controlled they can't fathom how evil those in positions of power/authority are, the scary thing is the new world order is real & they hv a plan for everyone & it's evil.

[@mikebastiat]

@@johnfrancis5673 There's people like us who see it. The remnant is everywhere.

[@kelleycondon6504]

operation northwoods

[@ShiftyKen08]

Yeah, are you FINALLY starting to see why we fight tooth and nail to prevent exactly this type of overreach here in America? THIS is why we defend our Second Amendment rights!

[@diggerlenny4836]

Average gun owners in other countries dont have military grade weapons. Americans dream of owning 50cals

[@earlgunman6325]

@@diggerlenny4836 You're ignorant. You also wouldn't know a "military grade weapon" if I was beating you over the head with one. Tell me Lenny, what is a "military grade weapon?" You act like a .50bmg is a wmd or something, it's just a big bullet.

[@jdleon5712]

@@diggerlenny4836 we don't have military grade weapons. We have better ;) and 50 cal is completely legal and even higher calibers. Still won't take them

[@joefell7845]

@@diggerlenny4836 And your problem with that is ?

[@ShiftyKen08]

@@diggerlenny4836 that's because we're a different breed, cut from a different cloth. You just wouldn't understand

[@jplanks1470]

As an American, the title of this video implies a lot more than a polite conversation

[@khatdubell]

This is what i was expecting.

[@test-201]

as an english man how about them spanish lessons

[@jplanks1470]

@@test-201 about the same as you guys getting locked up for social media posts

[@test-201]

@@jplanks1470 how about them spanish lessons? the united states is the second largest spanish speaking country in the world

[@grimace8560]

sad to see your government doing this, but love seeing yall fight back.

[@ctom4932]

Fighting results in injuries or death. Don't see much of that happening.

[@grimace8560]

@@ctom4932 ... to think that in order to fight back there has to be death on one side or the other is plain retarded. Civil disobedience is a great way to protest and fight back. Harm to others is a last option when dealing with a tyrannical gov. thank god for our 1a and 2a here in the states!

[@americangoy528]

@@grimace8560 Gun owners in America are the largest threat to the government’s monopoly of control over the populace. Our existence, equipment, and morals are direct threats to them, they will never cease their infringements until we are dead. Why limit oneself and play along in their unfair game of “civility”?

[@grimace8560]

@@americangoy528 agreed until you say " they will never cease their infringements until we are dead" I don't agree,. people are getting fed up on all sides, mad so they hopefully get off their tribal lines and... blah blah blah better people in office that represent the people in their area and not the gain of wealth of the person in office or to get reelected again. and if the government starts a war with its civilians than yes, civility is out the door, and than optics don't matter. but i hear what your saying

[@bigleemac]

We have to dispute very carefully, even a small amount of aggression or belligerence towards authority can result in revocation of a licence, gun owners have to be the epitome of model citizens.

[@SlayerIcon1356]

“Are we too obedient?” The fact you’re explaining needing permission and special cards to own a firearm, at the pleasure of the police. Yes I would say obedient is one word for it.

[@flyingmonkeydeathsquadronc968]

You do not disarm your friends or allies only your enemies or victims.

[@digduck9463]

just like their common wealth brother Canada.

[@masterofreality230]

@@flyingmonkeydeathsquadronc968 Damn, I like that one, gonna have to use it.

[@ansilumens1444]

I am just an ordinary member of the public, and I want it to be as hard as hell for people to own guns in the UK. I want to be able to go about my life without fear of being shot. How many people in the USA can say they have no fear of being shot, shot by accident, shot by the Police, shot by mad people. The US Constitution has created a nightmare that American's have to live with. The ultimate loss of freedom and democracy is being dead.

[@flyingmonkeydeathsquadronc968]

@@ansilumens1444 The vast majority of US citizens can easily say they have no fear. the gun isn't the problem its the people behind the gun. I wouldn't want to go to most cities in Britain due to the risk of being stabbed by thugs. A 5ft woman in the states has a greater chance to defend herself with a fire arm then a 6ft guy in Bristol or London without one. Should someone have the right to defend themselves and their family from a direct threats to their lives or should we give that up for unwarranted feelings and an illusion of safety Id argue if you lost your right to defend yourself you lost your right to life and by your own words lost your freedom and democracy

[@knight3001]

4:55 They were trespassing by refusing to wait outside and not block your doorway. Of course, if you attempt to lawfully eject them they'd arrest you for assault. An escalation technique.

[@yourfriend8052]

Here’s actual police Injustice

[@scottcantdance804]

The fact that they were trying to take his weapons because of a diagnosis of autism is pretty insidious. People always say that America is crazy for letting people with mental health conditions own weapons. But if you open that door, it would never stop. First it's serious mental health conditions like psychotic disorders. Then it's disorders like PTSD, then anxiety disorders, and depression, and diagnoses of someone being on the spectrum. And if you look at America as a whole, that covers a huge percentage of the American population. A lot of those diagnoses aren't even accurate, because if you get a referral from your primary care physician to a psychologist or psychiatrist, they have to put a reason, like a suspected diagnosis, for insurance purposes. And then to treat you with insurance coverage, a psychologist or a psychiatrist has to pick a diagnosis. Otherwise there's no medical need for your treatment, and it won't be covered. Whenever there's a shooting that involves an ex-soldier or someone along those lines, and it comes out they have PTSD, I always encounter tons of people saying that it's crazy that we allow people with PTSD to own weapons. To them, I always ask the following; what about a woman who has PTSD because she was the victim of a brutal assault, and she wants a firearm in order to protect herself and take back some control of her life? It forces them into a position of empathy for that woman, or into a position of being blatantly heartless towards a victimized woman. It's also a useful example to point out that just because someone has PTSD, doesn't mean that they are violent and dangerous. Revoking people's inalienable rights because of a medical condition is ridiculous and insidious. If people have rights revoked, it should be because they committed crimes that infringed upon the rights of others. Not because of a medical condition like depression, anxiety, or PTSD. I also got into an argument with someone recently who thought I was crazy for thinking that we should "let blind people own firearms". I had to explain to them, and encourage them to look it up themselves, that blind people *ARE* allowed to on firearms in America, just like everyone else is, unless they have some type of criminal acts on their record that prohibit them from firearm ownership. I also then had to explain that the government doesn't "let" people exercise their rights in America. We are not *given* rights by a supposedly generous and benevolent government. *We have them by default.*

[@johnfrancis5673]

Another 1 they do when there are several of them & they want to bully someone is stand on the victims foot, the natural reaction is to pull it away, when they do that, so they have an excuse to jump on you & they call it resisting! vile, evil & not at all the honourable/respectable institution most ppl believe they are.

[@joeshmoe7967]

@@scottcantdance804 That was in 2016. This call by the police was because a shooting happened somewhere else. A shooting happens in a town, and the cops in surrounding towns want gather up the guns for 'safety'

[@mrcaboosevg6089]

Trespassing isn't illegal in the UK, it's a civil offence. You can legally use force to eject someone but when it comes to police it'd be a pain in the arse going to court for it

[@throttleblipsntwistedgrips1992]

Reagan had it right, the 11 scariest words you can ever hear are "I am from the government and I am here to help"

[@SuperReuvers]

People love to forget, but Reagan was one of the most anti gun presidents we've ever had.

[@want2killu]

iran-contra

[@xxtripleokgaming]

Supposed to be "I think you all know that I've always felt the nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the Government, and I'm here to help."

[@Shamino1]

@@SuperReuvers Indeed, He was governor of California when its strictest gun control rules were put into place.

[@IanMikrut]

Regan said as he Expanded the National Firearms Act

[@pottersground3788]

“The military don’t start wars. Politicians start wars.” --William C. Westmoreland

[@UkSapyy]

Myanmar...

[@ballpoint7887]

ww2 japan:

[@AsIf-pz9kt]

Kwantung army would beg to differ

[@matthewcurry3565]

The military are who owns the literal politicians lmao. You are new here yeah?

[@Mr.Ambrose_Dyer_Armitage_Esq.]

@@matthewcurry3565 Imbecile. The industrialists who manufacture the equipment and supplies for the military and the investors and financiers who stand to make a killing during war own the literal politicians. The military, by nature, is a hierarchy that depends on orders, from the lowest private to the Chief of Staff. No orders, no action. The Elites aren't soldiers; they're Movers and Shakers.

[@CJ-we6fv]

Funny how they claim "we can still own firearms! we just need licensing!" and then the British Government can just declare the license null and confiscate them!

[@Ozhull]

Happens in America too, it's not remarkable

[@TheLastSaneAmerican]

Almost like that’s the only reason to have licenses and list of lawful gun owners.

[@kellynolen498]

@@Ozhull yeah theres just not a gun register ao the atf just raids you and takes all they find

[@delanofernandes6471]

You know why? Becouse humans in general are verry unpredicteble.

[@murrijuana2842]

Funny how taxation is theft.

[@TheBikeguy72]

Gun laws in other “free” countries blows my mind. Long live the second amendment of the US Constitution!!!

[@deadhorse1391]

Yes!…This shows the danger of any registration or giving in to “common sense “ regulations

[@MrMatty1956]

we are not far from this with red flag laws and other ATF garbage

[@darltharp525]

They can only do what we let them do we have the power #taxrevolt they are nothing without our tax dollars

[@evilblackcat6357]

@@darltharp525 Too bad they help themselves to our paychecks anyway, and when that's not enough, well.... money printer go 'brrrr'.

[@vanpallandt5799]

@@darltharp525 isnt that a US tradition?

[@nokiot9]

Everytime I see one of these stories I thank my lucky stars my ancestors fled that tyranny. But my heart still breaks for everyone who is still a subject, and not a citizen

[@michaelshapiro1543]

EXACTLY the CORRECT DISTINCTION! (Signed, your Canadian neighbour.)

[@philobetto5106]

If the damn cops keep pretending they're different from the population they will wind up being separated from the population

[@Chineseconcrete]

Get off your high horse yank, you lot are one to talk about “tyranny” 😂

[@nokiot9]

@@Chineseconcrete at least I can shoot a mute swan in my country

[@preppintrucker]

Free by choice, and 'subject' by choice.

[@bonelessthincrust]

"MOVE YOUR FOOT" "No" Anything after that point should have been dealt with as a home invasion and nothing less.

[@GTGibbs]

Here in the colonies, the home/gun owner would most likely not prevail in court, before a liberal Judge. F’n sad really. RESEST! We will not comply!!!!!

[@lcfflc3887]

The problem is police has been given too much power and authority over people worldwide, this needs to stop, a campaign against this over reach of power needs to start, it will get a lot of support just make sure to leave BLM and ANTIFA out of this cuz they screw everything LOL.

[@Tony-rl2fr]

Never open the door for police or answer any of their questions unless you called them.

[@PatrickKQ4HBD]

How do you propose an unarmed subject (not a "citizen") confront officers with badges and guns at his door? There's no way to win that confrontation -- except by words and logic and a free press.

[@Bancheis]

@@PatrickKQ4HBD Don't answer the door. Stick some headphones on. If they have a warrant, you will find out soon enough heh. If not, then they won't be entering. If they do enter without a warrant, you didn't hear them and you sue them for property damage and emotional damage.

[@wyattfamily8997]

When you disarm the law abiding, only the criminals stay armed.

[@asappestcontrol1250]

That also includes the special gangs called the police.

[@Anarchy-Is-Liberty]

WRONG!

[@willammathieu4721]

That includes the criminal activity of the goverment

[@ryzenx1471]

Thats what they want. It's a cycle of violence that gives police more power. Criminal kills people > Police seize legal guns > criminals stay armed...repeat.

[@grimpler]

@moonshine 143 of course I'm goanna be okay with law saying that I shouldn't murder random people

[@djzacmaniac]

In Arizona, where I live, no permit is required to own, or carry firearms, openly or concealed. I can purchase a gun from a friend or neighbor and I never have to register the sale or my ownership of that gun with any governmental entity. I'm allowed to shoot on federal land without any fees paid or permission granted. The UK sounds like a terrible place to be for a person intetested in guns or shooting. Come be an American! We'd love to have more shooters!

[@arib515]

@Angel Valdez keep the shitlibs out make them feel uncomfortable and unwelcome

[@chrisnedbalek2866]

Yes, but Arizona is one of the states that are preparing to require vax passports. I am concerned they'll do through a back door what they can't do through the front door. We need to stand up for EVERY right we have so as to preserve all rights.

[@laylanievalenzuela8095]

I love to go shooting but I'm from Mexico, can't have guns here. Can I be an American too?

[@robertgarrett7007]

@@laylanievalenzuela8095 Yes you can. Just get in line.

[@pharmerdavid1432]

@@laylanievalenzuela8095 Just come across the border, Biden will pay for everything!

[@Ronjambo3632]

They need to stop thinking they have the right to put their foot in someone's door because they are desperately trying to arrest someone so their boss gives them brownie points

[@grim7965]

We have a firearm certificate in America as well. It's called the 2nd Amendment and it's a right not a privilege. "A free man shall NEVER be debarred the use of arms" - Benjamin Franklin

[@nukepuke932]

No, the 2nd Amendment USED TO BE a right. Now the guns we're "allowed" to have won't do a thing against the government today. Americans are too soft to fight for their rights when all other avenues of redress have been extinguished.

[@zacyoung4446]

@@nukepuke932 that's not true but ya know

[@alanadams5982]

And we will Die for it if Necessary!!

[@alanadams5982]

@@nukepuke932 I don't think so... when pushed we will push back.. Give them the Bullets First!

[@BinkyTheToaster]

When Benjamin Franklin and Karl Marx both say the same thing, they're probably right.

[@Mark-vi6cg]

Whenever I see reporting like this from our brothers across the pond, I'm am absolutely blown away by how timid and subservient the population is over there.

[@thomasgross8289]

From a pepole who once conquered most of the world no less

[@waderyun.war00034]

They have turned into a bunch of sniveling cowards overseas and they used to control half the world before America kicked their asses in the Revolutionary War. It is sad how far they have fallen and how they praise their owners for it because they are technically slaves with no say in anything.

[@yurimodin7333]

@@waderyun.war00034 1812 is when we really kicked their ass.......the Empire never recovered from the retraction they did during WW2

[@smokeycity_youngin_9012]

They have a queen lmfao what u expect

[@smokeycity_youngin_9012]

I can post "fuck the president " I bet you won't say fuck the queen if you live there. Ill wait....

[@TheBrunobrogueira]

Those are not "mistakes". They are future reason to confiscate your weapons.

[@discobriscoe5880]

I've literally just had this with Lancashire Police

[@noprizesforme4196]

If you are legal, licensed and transparent in this country the authorities will find a way of making your life difficult. Where as if you are not legal, licensed and transparent you can get away with driving offenses, firearms offenses trading offences etc etc. Our police need to start focusing on criminals and less on the legitimate!

[@LandersWorkshop]

I can attest to that. It's a shambles.

[@peternicholls6532]

I'm afraid in this day and age...it is the Police who are the criminals

[@WeTrustInBando]

@@LandersWorkshopand you guys ruined our country Canada By forcing those same laws and traditions But were Right BESIDE FUCKING AMERICA

[@VE3LIX]

It's a numbers game, They get to trot out weapons seized this year and make themselves feel good, and politician get re elected for " keeping you safe"

[@JIMMYBOE1]

Law abiding citizens are easier to bully, that's all, they need to understand some people won't have it.

[@whoknows8436]

Damn I think this is the first time I’ve ever seen a British person talking on behalf of a gun owner. This dude is cutting edge

[@neil754]

You probably only see what the media feeds you, We do exist but they usually only put us on TV when something bad happens.

[@yagsipcc287]

Never give anything to any cop no matter what, they can just say "You willing gave us away your firearms for us to remove from you" they can just say you gave them away to be taken for good. Never give or allow anything, get a solicitor and or make sure they have warrants for anything and everything they ask for.

[@davog1946]

Absolute rubbish and completely incorrect. Police can seize firearms or anything else for that matter, in multiple situations without a warrant.

[@vanpallandt5799]

As said and whilst i dont agree with the police uplifting guns for 'safe custody', there are seizure powers (of property in general)in various circs outside of warrants

[@lhkraut]

@@davog1946 I think he is meaning if you haven't committed a crime, don't give them up unless they have a warrant.

[@davog1946]

@@lhkraut nope, again spreading completely incorrect information that is not the case.

[@lhkraut]

@@davog1946 Was only trying to help. I said that I think this is what he meant and not trying to spread incorrect information. Was hoping to have a conversation, not to be accused of telling incorrect information. Oh well, it doesn't always work that way on KZbin.

[@robsdeviceunknown]

I'm so sorry for you good Brits. Such a tragedy to live in a country that does not respect your human rights. Same with Australians.

[@longgone9869]

Let it be a lesson to us here in the states, not to allow it to happen here.

[@rattusnorvegicus4380]

Yep, my mother was friends with the nurse that tended to the Tas patsy in the set-up that led to Oz citizens losing their right to firearms ownership.

[@joshpace2709]

They are doing there best t to make it happen in the us as well

[@Tyborg425]

America is right behind. we must do something here to stop it now. As well as reverse the flow already going on.

[@lh98]

What do the two have in common? A monarchy... enough said

[@chrisaustin6255]

If the cops were held to account they would never act so foolishly

[@lew-e]

Thank God for the second amendment. This is absolutely disgusting!

[@Deadpool_collector247]

sadly we gave up the right to bear arms many years ago. 1 major shooting and most people handed their shit over. You certainly can't rely on the police to protect you (especially from the woke police we have nowadays, more interested in feelings offenses). Stay safe and flex those rights before you lose them

[@evilblackcat6357]

@@Deadpool_collector247 You shut your mouth, take your jabs, kneel before the NHS and pay for your state-run propaganda, bigot! /endsarcasm

[@vanpallandt5799]

@@evilblackcat6357 no major British political party is in favour of privitisation of the NHS, bach🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@vanpallandt5799]

@@Deadpool_collector247 the issue in UK though has been that most ppl dont like or have any interest in guns..i am not saying that that justifies taking them from those that do but there is no major constituency of support. I recall ppl complaining when AFOs were on duty in our town as seeing armed police offended them (the same ppl that ring up when the force helicopter is out)

[@evilblackcat6357]

@@vanpallandt5799 That's a shame. Would be nice to have an alternative to a socialist system and not have to leave the country for it.

[@nokiot9]

This is tragic. My heart breaks for our oldest and strongest allies. The queens subjects are still under the tyranny we in the US escaped.

[@charleslewis6047]

Did you know that our so called allies were our enemies in the revolutionary war and the war of 1812. They are still our enemy as well as the enemy of their own people. Down with the Queen of the bee hive! The Puritan Societies, and their damn corporations that control America!

[@TiptonMama]

Technically France is our oldest ally.

[@kellycline6019]

The fact you think we escaped tyranny is terrifying. We escaped nothing. We changed the words is all that happened. Freedom is the single biggest illusion in the United States of corruption.

[@dajo9339]

America is not free, the police are a standing army, we have more people in prison than anyone else in the world!

[@jonboy9734]

@@charleslewis6047 they are not an enemy because of what they did 200 years ago. You really hold a grudge don’t you mr fake “patriot”

[@kyscott4561]

As an American, it is nearly impossible for me to wrap my mind around this whole situation.

[@akaruchoose2693]

Confiscations happen in the USA as well. Research the New Orleans hurricane Katrina seizures. Louisiana had to pass a specific law to keep guns from being stolen by the authorities during a state of emergency. Stay informed and vote accordingly. Never become complacent.

[@aft1567]

@@akaruchoose2693 very true, unbelievable what happened after Katrina

[@matthewmorel3758]

The USA isn’t too far behind with its “red flag laws”

[@pharmerdavid1432]

@@akaruchoose2693 Voting will never get us out of this mess, when the elections are totally controlled - don't you get it?

[@akaruchoose2693]

@@pharmerdavid1432 I think I got some of it. I've read the Old Testament several times, this "mess" has been going on for a very long time. We just happen to be going through our little part of it. There is a time and season for everything.

[@polychad]

"kind sir, we stab in this country. Shooting Hare is so unrefined"

[@dmdixon7256]

Isn’t it amazing that criminals don’t give a damn about the law but law abiding citizens get punished!

[@M3rVsT4H]

This is the bit that really sticks out for me. These laws only control the actions of law abiding citizens, while the bad guys do as they please and cops are starting to look like a high vis spec ops team.

[@pelemichael9869]

it's because the law is not just, it only benefits the oppressors. and as the law keeps changing you're still going to keep abiding by it ain't you? That broken law abiding talk is why the brits are overseas doing knife to knife combat like they are in the 1400s.😂

[@cliveramsbotty6077]

criminals that don't give a damn about the law get punished for it. Law abiding citizens do not get punished.

[@M3rVsT4H]

@@cliveramsbotty6077 That was an award winningly cool story bro.

[@cliveramsbotty6077]

@@M3rVsT4H Thanks, it was inspired by your incredibly insightful fresh new take on the old classic 'criminals don't care about the law' line. Hey Merv did you know that criminals break the law but law abiding people don't?

[@honorservice8073]

And that's why firearm registrations are dangerous and why us AMERICANS fight really hard to prevent that from happening here

[@clawrence66]

YEAH I HAVE NEVER REGISTERED A SINGLE FIRE ARM LET ALONE THE CRATES I HAVE

[@clawrence66]

@Clif Prager never when they come for yours my name doesn’t pop up / know the law and you will see

[@clawrence66]

@Clif Prager WELL THANKS BRO, I NEVER GO WITH THE FLOW

[@johnathan3328]

@Clif Prager those forms aren’t registration because they aren’t suppose to go into a registry. Now we are currently dealing with an issue where the atf has been taking paperwork from ffl’s that shut down and are putting them into a database when they are surrendered to the atf as required by law, that is illegal. Congress is in the process of making them erase this database. So while yes there is proof of a background check there is no official registry, gun registry’s are federally illegal in the US.

[@blankablueboy1501]

Don't kid yourself. If yer armed they know. The question is will you act or bow? I know the answer tho. The west is populated by cowards.

[@fischerkingston3967]

The right to defend oneself is a fundamental human right, regardless of whether your country has laws protecting it or not. I think disarming should be met with violence, because governments need to realize that they aren't entitled to people's guns no matter how special they think they are.

[@fergofns]

As a Canadian, watching this go down, in this manner, for you folks .. I'm left speechless, not only because it Is happening but because it's not any kind of a stretch to imagine this taking place here in Canada. I hope you folks manage to get this stopped, .. Soon.

[@brandiwynter]

Unfortunately, it's not going to stop, it's going to get worse. Much worse. The government doesn't care if you're a good citizen, they want your guns and they are going to take them. Look at the recent firearms legislation enacted in Canada. It's not if it will happen in Canada, it IS happening. It's death by a thousand cuts. Every new gun control law is just one more step forward in their plan to completely disarm the U.K. and Canada. All you have to do is research what's happening because if you depend on the liberal media you'll never get the truth and by the time you do find out what's going on, it's already over and you've lost.

[@fergofns]

Completely agree .. we need to stay on top of this issue.

[@anthonybasile7636]

Canada and Australia are the perfect example as to what happens when the government disarms it's citizenry. First, in the name of safety, they confiscate your guns, then they put you in "safe quarantine locations". What next? transport by box cars? re-education camps? government seizure of private property? Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. They can have my guns when they pry it from my cold dead hands. Any student of the constitution and American history, who've read the federalist papers understand why the right to keep and bare arms comes ONLY after freedom of speech, press and religion. Without the 2nd you don't have a 1st.

[@nidfest]

I thought it had happened in your country. Didn't Trudeau get some legislation "read" and passed during one of your lockdowns when parliament was not sitting. No more AR's or something the like?

[@onesilentarrow]

You’re just as neutered in Canada. Come down here to Texas. Freedom rings in the south.

[@samhouston5217]

"My Firearms Officer, Gun License, Permission to have a firearm...etc" This is all crazy to imagine that you would need permission to protect your own life!!

[@alexanderertl9530]

Maybe, but you can't have a society where anyone can access a firearm. Unless you want thousands of deaths each year like in the US due to firearms.

[@frankobeirne7945]

Most of these firearms licenses in the uk are mainly for sports/farming/hunting not to protect yourself. Yes he can shoot someone intruding or whatever but he’ll probably go to court with chance of going to prison

[@samhouston5217]

@@alexanderertl9530 The US is not even in the top 5 countries with most firearm deaths per capita. (Especially if you remove suicides). But at the cost of a tyrannical Government saying I can't protect my own life?! I'll take being in the top 10.

[@FlyingHighInAC]

@@alexanderertl9530 You'll own nothing and you'll be happy.

[@katyushaslab7635]

lol, in the UK personal/property protection is not a valid reason to own a firearm. If you put that down on your application, it gets rejected immediately.

[@iancowan3527]

Control through fear from those that are in fear because you can't stop people from being people! Laws never have and never will stop the actions of bad people!

[@iancowan3527]

@Active Security Officer If someone is in the act of violating the law... It makes no sense that someone like that plays by the rules! Gun laws is solely meant to control those that follow the law! Just like the only reason to register guns is so they can taken away some other date!

[@iancowan3527]

@Active Security Officer Control through fear! Basically: if you break this law and we catch you - it's not going to be a good time had by all! But does deterrence really stop the crime! No... But when you disarm good people on principal that it's for a greater good... You are in fact lay down the foundations for a criminal state! Because anyone with taste for blood will flock to where they fully know - they are the only ones armed! Which is why so many cowards take their harm to schools and public arenas... It breeds a society of victims... "Don't dare protect yourself - we can do it - so in case of emergency - call an operator, stop to explain, so we know where to collect your body!" Our leadership is all protected by gunman! Our law enforcement relies in guns to assert their authority! We have thousands and thousands of men and women performing drills and training in uniform... As a standing army to protect our country - with guns... Please, please, please! Believe me when I say this issue has NOTHING to do with safety, health, or protection... It is entirely about control and the counter measures to ensure those controls can be force totally undeterred! When you surrender rights in the name of peace and safety... You will never get safety or know peace... History has taught that lesson many, many, many times... But that requires knowing history! Because most of the time... It's someone that is so sure that they can make things work and be different... With the greatest of intentions... That are actually living outside of reality! That do more harm than any weapon... Examples: Spain, the Scottish, the Celts... The Native American Indians! Heck, the once last surviving member of the Hawaiian Royal family! When she passed away - she was still under military custody - and never did ANYTHING!

[@iancowan3527]

@Active Security Officer Laws to disarm it's people - is against the Bill of Rights! Which laws are we following?

[@crazysnake1096]

Officer: "We are here to take your firearms" Me: "Oh that is such a pity as they were all lost in a tragic boating accident in February" Office: "There isn't a body of water within 8 hours of your house" Me: "What can I say, I love boating"

[@Marin3r101]

Wouldn't recommend lying to law enforcement. This is a meme and can probably get you charged with a felony for lying.

[@glenwaldrop8166]

@@Marin3r101 they'd have to prove it. Problem is hidden guns are useless. They need to be handy.

[@temporaryscars]

The second you need to hide your guns is the second you need to use them.

[@glenwaldrop8166]

@@temporaryscars damn right.

[@dronenoobFL]

@@Marin3r101 Buddy, I don't think you heard him. He lost his firearms in a boating accident, have some pity. I also lost all of my firearms in a boating accident as well. Crazy.

[@smileydeassman5573]

That literal 'foot in the door' while trying to confiscate his guns is so symbolic of all gun control laws everywhere, and an interesting selling point for Ring doorbell devices.

[@candismetz5650]

Move it or lose it.

[@TweakRacer]

No. Ring doorbell software has built in back doors for law enforcement.

[@davidhibbs3396]

if so then you never requested the info. rarely has the RING company even asked if the was a warrant. they just hand it over

[@texasbeast239]

Instead of a "Jack"-booted thug, I guess she was a "Jill"-booted thug?

[@andrewnorris7642]

@@MrJedi5150 low totem pole patrol porkchops dont get access to the cyber crime club

[@SeanPGribbons]

I’am so so sorry you have to go through all this.

[@20PhantoM07]

I had my shotgun licence refused after waiting 12months for an answer, the reason? I once had a street warning for possession of cannabis, no criminal record.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

4:56 U.S. Cops: "So anyway, I started blasting."

[@vannlo355]

Murderers, cold blooded gang bangers with badges.

[@akaruchoose2693]

"We're here to seize your guns." "Wait there a minute, I'm just going to get something..." That was hilarious!

[@FishFind3000]

Lol, yep

[@terryklein8285]

Love that humor😆😅🤣🤣😂😂😅👌👍🖖✌

[@combatvet1307]

This makes me even happier to be an American. Here having a firearm is a RIGHT and not a privilege.

[@whatthat150]

Wrong, I'm an Iraq veteran who got hit with a f****** b******* fake felony. - wake the f******up they're privileges not rights.

[@JHV166]

Not in New York

[@ickybro]

it's a shrinking right and for many, an unobtainable privilege.

[@EroticOnion23]

Soon they'll be able to just throw the constitution in the paper shredder and there won't a thing anyone can do to stop them...

[@herrschaftg35]

A "right" that the US government has been violating for decades.

[@marryson123]

When the monarch is still in charge, UK people are not citizens; they are subjects. Subjects ruled by someone who just happens to born in the family with absolute power and is literally above the law.

[@karencarter8292]

Just remember what a Founding Father said, I believe it was James Madison, "A just and popular government need not fear an armed citizenry." This is the basis for the 2nd Amendment, and the Founders understood that. They understood that there may come a time when the government will or could become oppressive, abusive, deceitful, and tyrannical, which has been clearly occurring increasingly. And the people will and should have some means to defend themselves.

[@RSR423]

You mean like the government of today?

[@denismurphy1601]

J-6 committee had a wittness pretty much the same thing. President Trump did not fear the public with rifles in hand. If you want to believe theJ-6 committee.

[@mrcaboosevg6089]

America was built on slavery and was oppressive from day one. You must be pretty deluded to think it's the land of the free when they kept millions of slaves and committed genocide on the natives in their pursuit of land.

[@laurentbeaulieu2446]

This is what happens with gun control. Once it starts it never stops.

[@davog1946]

Good!

[@Lukemooredrums]

@@davog1946 maybe you should visit all the videos where guns have saved peoples lives, stopped home invasions and protected families from robberies, rapes or even murderers and go and comment that you wish they didn't have the ability to protect themselves? Would you look at it that way? Or are you a hypocrite?

[@davog1946]

Saved lives from others guns? Guns don’t solve guns.

[@Lukemooredrums]

@@davog1946 there's lliterally a million videos on youtube where people have stopped crimes from happening just from owning a gun where the thief/rapist/whatever didn't have one. They have stopped all sorts of crimes from taking place and protected all sorts of families. You acting like this never happens is ridiculous, and i would like you to look all those people in the eye and tell them they didn't have a right to protect their families.

[@AndyGeesGarage]

They have to justify their positions so they have to continuously move the goal posts for legal gun owners.

[@Jesusiskingamen7]

This is the type of things that makes a man get guns and fight the government

[@BriGuyIT]

Make no mistake: this is exactly the kind of heavy handed control that they would love to implement in the United States. You can see this in its infancy in things like red flag orders, which allow the mostly-extrajudicial seizure of firearms by the State. In places like California where they have implemented it, the list of reasons to seize your guns via red flag order are expanding.

[@RSR423]

Wow, a comment from someone who can actually see the writing on the wall. I was starting to lose hope.

[@mrcaboosevg6089]

This isn't the cause of the state, this is entirely the police covering their own failings. The mass shooting that happened was because the police allowed someone unfit to own firearms, the law is very simple when it comes to who can and who can't have guns. The shooter was clearly unfit so the police are trying to distract everyone from their fuck up

[@ultraret]

The California Communists Republic is not part of the United States -- this is why they have no 2nd Amendment rights.

[@T30-z5w]

Damn shame you folks in Britain have to go through all this nonsense to have firearms. The individual right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness is God given. You can’t do that without the ability to defend yourself against two legged predators.

[@sahhull]

We have strong words and sarcasm. but even those words can land you in court.

[@TheNinja691]

Trouble is, the British people turned their back on God which is why we are more oppressed than you guys.

[@scottcantdance804]

Unfortunately, there are plenty of places in America that are almost this ridiculous. And they are all deep Blue. Although, at least in America the police can't just show up and claim they have the right to inspect your firearms or how they are stored. That is, unless, you own licensed suppressors, automatic weapons (I think), or you have a specific kind of firearms license. Manufacturing, I think. When you fall into those categories, you do give away *some* of your rights, as far as I understand it. I've been told that you open yourself up to inspections that you can't refuse, but don't quote me on that.

[@T30-z5w]

@@scottcantdance804 In the US you don’t lose your 4th amendment rights just because you have a license to engage in the business of selling or manufacturing firearms. You can refuse inspection. The issue is if you refuse inspection they could revoke your license because you are licensed to engage in a regulated business. As far as a tax stamp for the individual ownership of NFA weapons (machine guns, silencers, etc). you don’t lose your 4th amendment rights by having those weapons. Authorities cannot search your home or compel you to present the weapons. They can only search your home with a warrant issued by a magistrate or judge based on probable cause and your refusal to provide consent for a warrantless search does not affect your tax stamp or ownership of that weapon.

[@thorn3377]

@@scottcantdance804 Have you heard of Red Flag Laws? Red Flag laws allow the police just show up and take all your firearms. They were supported by The Democrats, Trump, the ATF and the NRA! and have led to the deaths/murders of two law abiding gun owners in Maryland at the hands of police.

[@bigleemac]

My understanding is Police can only enter with a warrant or if they hear cries for help, are chasing someone or are acting under an arrest warrant, if they have no legal justification for being there then you don't have to let them in. Goes without saying you can invite them in and this is usually the first thing they will ask to do, it's not impolite to refuse them entry, it's your right under the law.

[@stevehansen7994]

It's amazing to watch how the government's outside the US control their populations so completely. Makes me even happier to be a US citizen. Where I live, even the liberal lefties are well armed.

[@avisilvermann2838]

I spoke to the legal person at the NRA yesterday where we members have legal insurance to cover us for court costs. He said that it's not that easy for the police to get a warrant from a court. They have only 4 reasons they can use public safety is one serious mental issues is another can't remember the rest sorry. He did say that if you hand them over without a revocation order then your at their mercy if and when you can get them back if you do, if they take them on a revocation then your insurance will cover your costs provided you have not broken the law.

[@hardergamer]

@@stevehansen7994 So you would swap gun safety for weekly school shooting?

[@marklavoine8502]

That is The Way it should be but in the united states' they go after your house let it burn then take your guns.use swatt at any excuse under the sun.

[@mjex1965]

@@hardergamer I'll be keeping all of my guns, if you don't want a gun, don't get one. Simple.

[@Bob-jv4yf]

It’s almost like criminals don’t care about laws

[@RobWhittlestone]

Excellent bloke, Chris. How scary is this - Stalinist tactics by the people we were taught were "our friend and helper". I'm glad I live in Switzerland, where it's not so crazy (yet).

[@moisty254]

How bad is it getting over there? Any freedoms being taken?

[@michaelsmyth2682]

Fair dws you live in the country that rules the (WORLD). RESPECT

[@BlastinRope]

@@FrancoJJameson the shooting sucks and isn't fun, best to avoid it at all costs

[@13thCP]

And this is why we’re so against ANY infringement of our 2nd amendment. No one gets to take anything the people buy and maintain. Stand up against this crap!

[@rickypickles2219]

Itll get everywhere eventually. Theyre trying here in america now. Its a global takeover. New. World. Order

[@jacobsmith2577]

Words to be wary of: reasonable, safe, secure, gun control. Sad that your nation has removed so much of your rights.

[@Likexner]

Trump: meaningful background checks!

[@TheCapstah]

Technically, they have not removed their rights, because natural rights (the right to defend oneself, for example) cannot really be taken away, because they exist outside of the realm of social hierarchies. What they are really doing is infringing on their rights.

[@johnborden9208]

@@TheCapstah Exactly! For those who don't know, this is why the Second Amendment is worded the way it is. "...the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." The Founders knew what they were about!

[@ralphsawyer9535]

"That is why our masters in Washington are so anxious to disarm us. They are not afraid of criminals. They are afraid of a populace which cannot be subdued by tyrants." ~ Jeff Cooper

[@denismurphy1601]

We can do what out ansestors did in the 1700's when the Red Coats tried to take our rifles and cannons. Yes, rifle and cannons!! Our muskets were rifled barrels, the Brits Brown Bess was smooth bore. We Had better guns than the British Regular Army. We also buried them in our field's of Lexington, Concord, Acton, Sudbury, so the Brits would not take them from us. The Minutemen were ready for the Red Coats.

[@patrickbodine1300]

*TRUTH*

[@ralphsawyer9535]

@Chris Bronson👍🍻

[@codyharney2997]

@@denismurphy1601 yea, sucks that Noone can hear the warning that the British (oppressive tyrants) live in our congress and alphabet agencies. We are not far from having to heed the warning and answer the call

[@perfectogaming5240]

You spelled criminals wrong

[@ajaj3196]

As an American, this is a sobering reminder to not give in inch in the ongoing attempts to further restrict second amendment rights. Once a right has been surrendered it will rarely if ever be returned. I respect that other countries may want to do things differently but I sorely wish it didn't have to be that way.

[@Shrimp_Insurance]

So let me get this straight, two of these people had their firearm history erased and they both went out of their way to re-inform the government about ALL of them? At the very least keep ONE secret and nail it under a floorboard for a rainy day.

[@tylerwilliams33]

👉🧠

[@outrageddeer2101]

That's the dream

[@fredandersen9873]

They're sheep.

[@douglasdavis8395]

@@fredandersen9873 - Yes, because that one nailed under a floorboard will sustain the 'revolution' unto victory.

[@baconatoromg6062]

@@douglasdavis8395 bet you'd wish you had a gun when someone's knocking on your door to kill you or take you to a camp

[@mr.jayscales792]

Another reason we need constitutional carry rights in the United States across the board. Glad nobody knows what I have, nobody's business but my own 💪🇺🇲

[@Pressplay267]

..and the theives that break into your house before they inter the afterlife

[@UkSapyy]

@@Pressplay267 Nothing like fearing thieves with guns at night to remind us what freedom feels like.

[@Bigfire253]

Imagine jumping through all them hoops and forming out all that money for the paperwork licences and then the firearms just for the police to pop round and say "because of the actions of a person you've probably never met we are hear to take your legally owned property for safekeeping" and under their breath "your never seeing these again and won't be getting compensated for it either", absolute lunacy

[@ansilumens1444]

In the UK they wouldn't take your guns away, because you wouldn't have them in the first place, not even a replica.

[@Bigfire253]

@@ansilumens1444 It takes a fair bit to gain a firearm in the UK, I know as some people I know have them for hunting, and yh the police would just some round and seize them like I said in my previous comment

[@robertsmith2956]

Another good reason for steel doors. They will cut that foot off at the source of the break in. Then when she can prove it is her foot, she can petition to get it back.

[@steve00alt70]

@@Bigfire253 it can be for sport shooting too

[@Aklemvaeo]

No matter what country you're in and what firearms laws are in place, NEVER disclose any mental health status or diagnosis to law enforcement.

[@JG-fv9bv]

The irony my ex FLO stated he wouldn't trust half the Police with with firearm or even a Taser ...and this includes those already serving as Firearms Officers as they don't in his words possess the right character or attitude

[@ericchambers7361]

Heard similar things myself

[@Shadow_Hawk_Streaming]

surely the FLO would have the authority to report those concerns?

[@GavinM161]

@@Shadow_Hawk_Streaming To whom? Foxes guarding the hen-house...

[@robogen1331]

And yet I was in the military and never once had any doubt about the men and women beside me handling fully automatic weapons. If we can do it safely. The public can too

[@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069]

@@robogen1331 exactly

[@edbigtruck]

Hang in there my Fellow Firearm Brothers and Sisters across the pond. Stand strong and don’t allow this to happen!!

[@commiehunter733]

🔥

[@edbigtruck]

@@commiehunter733 ?

[@Butanoshi]

Never. Open. Door. To the police.

[@stevelangstroth5833]

I ask myself this question: "Who on God's green Earth is morally, ethically, or legally qualified to tell me that I need THEIR license to own a firearm?" Not a soul, is the answer.

[@77Friction]

I unfortunately the Government is qualified to tell you that you need THEIR license! If you dont like that then we need to drain the swamp! Stop electing stupid career politicians and leftie commie bastards.

[@EYESLAPJEWS]

There is no such thing as legal or illegal on God's greener 🌎🌍

[@32shumble]

If you think police are necessary then laws are necessary. If you think police are not necessary then you are either a criminal or an idiot.

[@ansilumens1444]

The UK Police are well qualified, but only in the UK. In America the ATF would be ideal.

[@stevelangstroth5833]

@@ansilumens1444 The ATF are politicized clowns.

[@nickbono8]

I live in almost commie California where their gun laws are rights infringing, but after watching this, I’m glad I live here and not Britain. It’s crazy to me that the government has this much power over their people like this.

[@mrcaboosevg6089]

Nah, the UK is far better than California. California might have better gun laws but literally everything else is better in the UK. I'm into cars and seeing what Californians have to deal with on youtube is appalling, some of the most backwards rules i've have seen anywhere

[@Datsamoutful]

California is no better. This kind of thing has been going on there for over 2 decades. Back in the late 90’s (before 9/11), one of my neighbors in California had his entire gun collection stolen by police, when they “accidentally” served a warrant at the wrong address. After breaking down the door, they found out they were in the wrong house, but they saw he had a gun collection of about 100 guns. They called the ADA to ask what to do, and were ordered to confiscate all the guns, even though police entered the wrong house, ILLEGALLY. Because as the ADA put it, “nobody should be allowed to have that many guns”.

[@BinkyTheToaster]

@@mrcaboosevg6089 Well, the crime rate in the UK is higher, so there's that.

[@stupidcommentpatroller1767]

@@BinkyTheToaster yeah I’d rather not have the police more militarized then myself…. I’d never go to the uk, 12-60 year olds get stabbed trying to get a sandwich

[@mrcaboosevg6089]

@@BinkyTheToaster Measuring two separate countries using statistics is impossible, what might be considered violent crime in one might be considered minor in the other. A good example of that is Sweden which considers minor assaults as rape which far inflates the statistics to make it look worse than it is

[@haywardsteve]

police taking action on their own without lawful measures being in place

[@michael_mouse]

'police taking action on their own without lawful measures being in place' = bullying tactics

[@AnthonyUpson]

This sounds disgusting to do this to law abiding citizens who own guns.

[@salvatoreregalbuto5444]

THIS WOULD NEVER HAPPEN IN THE US WITHOUT SOME HELL BEING RAISED.

[@TweakRacer]

You should visit California.

[@pullingpuppetstrings3826]

Or New York

[@regulator7931]

👆 what these guys said. Things need changing. Also don't forget about Virginia back in 2020. Gun owners and 2nd amendment sanctuaries almost went to war with the state and national guard.

[@SeattleRingHunter]

"I don't consent to abusive police powers on lawful process" powerful statement!!!!

[@PaulHamM3]

this is a perfect example of the responsibility shown by us law abiding shooters who follow the law to the LETTER! without going into to much detail on here, i had a similar thing happen and had to tell the Devon and Cornwall firearms licencing dept what weapons i actually had after i received back my FAC minus some of my guns and added variation that i could of gone to any RFD and bought another creedmoor , can you imagine what would of happened to me and other firearms holders if we forgot what guns we have bought and displayed this much incompetence??

[@MrRambo438]

i also had a similar occurrence in Essex on 2 separate occasions years apart and i set them straight on the day the Fac landed on my doorstep

[@alonzowitt5931]

Your right but the problem is getting the Demigods aka cops to do things by the letter.. they think their above the law and the law don't apply to them ..

[@paulturner1872]

I had the same experience with Durham Constabulary. After a change of address I was issued my new licences back with no guns on them. When I informed them of the mistake the firearms officer asked me what guns I had in my possession. Then after receiving my licences back again the serial numbers which they had put on my licence did not match the guns I had. 3 licences later all is now correct.

[@Gangster88232]

Then ban all guns. Problems with licensing is solved. You dont need them. Find another hobby.

[@davedevonlad7402]

Bit late to the conversation, but I used to live beside a farmer who had a shotgun and unfortunately we didn't get along. One day he came round to my house threatening violence on me and my family, this continued for months His dog even attacked my mother in law and his other family members were abusive to us all the time. It all came to a head one day and he threatened to kill me, I reported this to Devon and Cornwall police but they did absolutely nothing. He wasn't visited, his gun was not taken away and his mental state wasn't checked. All I got told to do was avoid him but that was difficult when the only way to get anywhere was past his farm and he always confronted us. We moved as fast as we could but this guy could have killed us all because Devon and Cornwall police were completely inept. Everyone knew about this family and apparently so did the local police so why was he allowed to keep a gun when they knew he was aggressive and violent.

[@southerncross1941]

Are members of the police force, found to have current or past or, mental issues, forbidden to carry firearms, one asks? If not, could the public be at risk of harm from an affected officer officer who could become way-would whilst carrying out their duties.

[@nigellawrance2130]

Looking at what's going on now, I would say 90% of the police farce have mental issues

[@harrys8358]

I believe so yes. This is why Wayne Couzins would have struggled to try and take the mental health route simply because all that would have been checked multiple times just to carry the guns and do the job.

[@spookybaba]

You're damn right, Nigel 👍

[@vanpallandt5799]

@@nigellawrance2130 you know 90% of the British police?

[@vanpallandt5799]

Approx 6,543 armed officers in March 2021. From those i know where i worked the selection and training was pretty rigorous

[@54l68l65l20l47l61l6D]

My heart goes out to the Europeans and Australians who live in open-air prisons.

[@mikehunt8375]

We all do now.

[@bretthess6376]

@@mikehunt8375 No. A man with a free mind is not a prisoner. How sad you think all the world a slave. Don't run up and down the street in Texas yelling this.

[@herrschaftg35]

@@bretthess6376: You think the US is free??? Nobody but the government has been allowed to own land since 1916, the government has been wiping its ass with the constitution for decades, The average working citizen pays roughly 40% in taxes yet is not represented within government...freedom has turned into an illusion thanks to our corrupt government. Regarding Texas, it is definitely on of the better states but Austin is on the verge of turning it blue.

[@kiwiman1499]

I repeat myself but you do know that the US is the 14th ‘freeist’ country in the world? Your freedoms are not as broad as you like to express they are.

[@chow24]

Can police look into your medical records 🤔

[@TexasPapa13]

Registration leads to confiscation….i mean “looking after”

[@OhMy-pr1qq]

Some advice from across the pond for all of you fellow gun owners: "I am sorry officer but I lost all my guns in a recent boating accident"

[@backbaysailor]

straight to jail for not reporting it lol. England is garbage for gun rights

[@GiveBlood555]

I would love a gun license , but dealing with the UK police is a headache

[@dominicjohnson8427]

Gun license? Shotgun or firearm?

[@GiveBlood555]

@@dominicjohnson8427 my friend is a land owner has fire arms , I have air rifles sub 12ft pounds , I've seen the paper work and waiting times for owning a rifle , I really don't want to deal with the hassle , sadly

[@MrRambo438]

@@GiveBlood555 the firearms grant process is designed to make you feel that way unfortunately

[@ericchambers7361]

All the more reason to apply. The UK police hate gun owning citizens! 😂

[@woodnugget1301]

That’s what they want. So you dont bother

[@rackadactal3044]

We in America are on the cusp of what Brits have been experiencing for years, a constitutional right being written away but a bunch of people shaking in their boots because we have a right to defend ourselves. So ridiculous

[@Simon.C1047]

You are rite I have thought that for a while now it seems that what happens here sometimes happens to you and visa versa

[@TheFoyer13]

What are you talking about? Constitutional carry has been spreading like a wildfire, Ohio is now the 23rd state to pass it. I even hear california is dropping some of it's crazy gun restrictions. Hmm wonder why the sudden change.

[@unnecessaryapostrophe4047]

@@TheFoyer13 Washington State just passed new restrictions, and the ATF is trying like hell to redefine or outright ban pistol braces and 80% lowers.

[@colinmcmb]

Isn't it about time Americans stopped acting like teenagers over guns?

[@longiusaescius2537]

@colinmcmb isn't it time britbongs stopped letting child rapists have free reign?

[@Odessa45]

A few years back - spring of 1775 if memory serves - we over here in the US had a big go round over government confiscation of firearms in the villages of Lexington and Concord. Things came to quite a head. Folks just were't having that confiscation business. The fight was worth it. Something for you folks to consider perhaps.

[@texasbeast239]

Our Forefathers declared war over it, 3 months later. They didn't do it over taxes and fees and the dissolution of legislative assemblies. That stuff went on for years. They did it over gun control.

[@jamespmullin21753]

During WW2 the USA' s NRA took up a collection from Americans, who donated rifles for the British homeguard.

[@raybede]

A more orderly and honest group of people than UK gun owners you would be pushed to find. The Chiefs of police are no doubt behind this worrying trend. They get together in National committee and talks off record result in little plans such as this being trialed. It is unforgivable for any Constabulary to work outside the law in this, seemingly underhand way.

[@senseofthecommonman]

Orderly, your a bunch of a holes that go about killing for fun.

[@georgesakellaropoulos8162]

There's a parallel in the United States. As a group, citizens with concealed weapons permits are more law abiding than police.

[@knine8154]

@@senseofthecommonman Come get mine then, as a matter of fact lead the charge Karl

[@jhutch1470]

@@senseofthecommonman Oh yeah baby. I kill the hell out of those paper targets.

[@yungamurai]

It's because so many woke ideologues have wormed their way to the top of policing.

[@sargentsakto9236]

When it comes to your government and your firearms NEVER think that it’s nothing. I feel so bad for every gun owner in the world being susceptible to their government just deciding you aren’t allowed to own firearms. Even here in the USA we have to fight everyday against a part of our government that says to your face “oh don’t worry we aren’t going to take your guns away” while they make every effort to take our guns away. They do it incrementally. A little here and a little there. They call for “common sense” gun control saying don’t worry it’s for your own good we are just trying to stop crime. Knowing it won’t work that way they come back and say oh that didn’t work lets pass just one more little law.

[@johnborden9208]

And before you realize it, the frog is boiled to death! That's why we can't give an inch to tyrants.

[@bailey3205]

and if you could see into the things they WON'T say aloud, you'd hear them admitting they don't care about those crime victims any more than the shooter unless it suits them politically.

[@nox_chan]

Semper fi

[@bandit5875]

Literally nobody is taking guns away here in America, except from those who suffer from mental illness which may make them incompetent or violent. Those are people who have bought and own guns prior to their diagnosis. People unable to legally own a weapon cannot own one at all. Criminals are the ones being disarmed. Glock switches are being confiscated and the owners put in prison. Illegal weapon modifications are being seized. Illegal weapons are being taken. If you follow the fucking laws and listen to what’s going on around you that doesn’t come from FOX news, you’d realize that your weapons are in ZERO danger. I have full faith that the US government knows how catastrophically devastating a mass-seizure would be - millions would fight and die.

[@wjjohns04able]

Never would I have thought we would be living in such a tyrannically controlled world.

[@mikebastiat]

Everyone falsely believed government is there for their protection.

[@VenturiLife]

If you study history you'll see that's how it was in the past. We're entering a neo-feudal system.

[@mikebastiat]

@@VenturiLife Correct. All while most gun guys are licking the boot and worshiping the police state.

[@mikecostigan9913]

Are you kidding? Where the hell have you been the past 30 years?

[@wjjohns04able]

@@mikecostigan9913 Well let's be honest, when's the last time you saw people starting to be locked in houses and kept out of public because they don't have a flu shot?

[@sg7392]

Moral of the story shouldn't have opened the door.

[@srbontrager]

Glad I live in the United States, and in a state that doesn't have the excessively strict laws as some states. Yes, there's some states that, in some ways, have more restricting firearms laws, than you do across the pond. California, New York and New Jersey are the top three of those that come to mind, and no, I have no desire to ever reside under any of their tyrannical, oppressive laws. Kudos to Mr. Hart for standing up for his rights, and not allowing the police to enter his home without a warrant.

[@Draelyn]

People also seem to think California gun laws are out of control. They really aren't, you can own any center fire semi-auto rifle you want, you just have to attach something called a fin grip to it if it has a pistol grip, barrel length can't be shorter than 16.5 inches. You can own any shotgun you want really, the only restriction is hand guns, if you want a handgun it has to be one on a hand gun list, which is annoying because new guns aren't added so I can't get my hands on any of those neat new guns I want. California also has something called a Castle Doctrine, meaning that if someone enters your home without your permission, your life is instantly considered to be in danger and you are legally allowed to defend yourself with lethal force without any legal repercussions. New York also has a castle doctrine. Without the castle doctrine I feel California would be a dangerous place to live and I would move asap.

[@srbontrager]

@@Draelyn Yes and no. Yes California does have castle doctrine, no duty to retreat(surprisingly 🤯). However New York does have duty to retreat. Either which way, I was born, raised and still live in a state that allows anything the federal government allows. As for California or New York, I have absolutely no desire to ever reside under the thumb of their tyrannical governments.

[@tylerchambers6246]

@@Draelyn So you have to attach a fin grip, which makes the gun dangerous to use, just to make it legal, but that's not out of control? All these other restrictions are just curious and don't actually do anything, and in the worst cases, make guns even more dangerous and less effective to operate. It's just restrictions for the sake of restrictions. But any restriction is out of control, it's an infringement.

[@Draelyn]

@@tylerchambers6246 My point was both not out of control and also the absurdity of some gun laws. That being said, I am okay with needing to jump through hoops to own a full auto gun, the last thing I need is some asshole breaking into my neighbors house across the street, and then my neighbor grabbing his full auto AK and being all hoped up on adrenaline holds the trigger down and doing a mag dump and having the bullets go through his house, across the street, and into my house possibly hitting me. Semi-auto is love, semi-auto is life.

[@joshbrown6877]

The fact that they restrict gun like this on your side of the pond blows my mind.

[@mikesmith8313]

Only in the UK, very sad oppression.

[@metallitech]

He should take them to court.

[@davesmith4804]

Take the police to court lol you having a larff he go no chance and it would cost him thousands of pounds.

[@GavinM161]

@@davesmith4804 Unfortunately I have to agree with you. Best he could hope for is an out-of-court settlement with something saying he can't talk about being bought off. He's still risk massive legal bills either way.

[@davesmith4804]

@@GavinM161 Unfortunately lol ., Anyway did you no that lets say you was to give your say two grand gun up at the police station to be distroyed well it's NOT the police have it , so you think it's been distroyed and there some police officer got it at his home using it: ) , all true

[@hueycobra9993]

8k to take an appeal of this nature to crown

[@davesmith4804]

@@hueycobra9993 Never get there CPS will block it : )

[@got2kittys]

An honest government that has the justice, and well- being of citizens at heart doesn't need to fear their people. Enemies are who gets disarmed. Not law abiding citizens.

[@Wilted_Brainz]

Being American, watching this really got me steamed. I have friends from the UK and other European countries, and the misconceptions they have, on how we have firearms, is short of amazing. I had one actually believe that banks gave guns away when you opened an account. The process of how the UK deals with firearms is so alien to me. I can walk out my door right now, and shoot off rounds. I do not live in the city, and there are rules. Common sense ones. Don't shoot towards houses.

[@Draelyn]

If there was a bank that gave me a gun for opening an account with them, that is a bank I would bank at for LIFE! Just sayin.

[@unbearifiedbear1885]

The Bank/Gun thing is a reference to Bowling From Colombine, the antigun Michael Moore documentary - there was a bank in bumfuck nowhere that was giving (possibly underlever) rifles for opening an account I believe it was a limited time, promotional thing

[@crystalray4231]

I dream of being a citizen under those lives... I tried. But its not easy, immigration process... well there is no process to be honest. There is no way to move to US permanently, except marriage or investment of 1 million. I tried other ways and they got me nowhere. I would be the happiest person on the earth if I could have you as my neighbour, meet together for bbq and do safe target practise while we wait until steaks are ready.

[@PBVader]

"When tyranny becomes law, Rebellion becomes duty."

[@toastingtony9104]

Man this is so crazy as a gun owner in the United States (Utah). My first gun was a AK that I bought through private sale (yes its legal to do that here). While I hate seeing that utter shitpipe that gun owners have to go through in the UK and other European countries, I'm thankful that its a warning to us in the west on why we shouldn't seed any ground to the government. SEED NO GROUND.

[@Likexner]

cede

[@camojoe83]

Lol, seed...

[@MatteoFitness]

Imagine seizing people’s cars because one person, you don’t know or never met, drove drunk

[@redwhiteblue7831]

This is exactly why we have the 2nd Amendment here in the U.S. To prevent a tyrannical government.

[@lonelypancake5979]

Not doing a very good job, is it?

[@michaellange6598]

You funny.... Bung how you no talk you go work now fling dung chin hi and eat flied lice I put you on report make social score like us debt and be rewarded and promoted Jr lead man in China guano factory. Peace and love my friend

[@cjay2]

And you got one anyway. Better learn your 2A.

[@lonelypancake5979]

@@cjay2 pretty much what I said. They voted in an absolute carrot

[@bretthess6376]

@@lonelypancake5979 Actually it is, fool. We aren't slaves, which is what we would be without it.