Political Alliances, Gun Laws, Mental Health | Overtime with Bill Maher (HBO)

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[@butterflymage5623]

Noir starts to make a point, immediately gets interrupted without the chance to finish. Every time.

[@markgrypma2811]

Butterfly Mage i started to realize that about half way through. Every time Colion stumps them “ok next question” that’s how they deflect so they don’t have to answer questions. Sad.

[@dewaynethomas3122]

Lol. What's his point? It's clear he has the talking points. But doesn't think critically.

[@dewaynethomas3122]

@@markgrypma2811 Huh? The one point they didn't answer was "you aren't banning cars". Which is one of the dumbest fucking things I've ever heard. You actually require a license to drive. And they aren't specifically made to kill. And cars are required to have specific safety features. Ya'll are nuts.

[@joshh7819]

@@dewaynethomas3122 you are required to have a driver's license to buy a gun legally. Also some cars are more dangerous than others. Why not make all cars max out at 80 mph and under x weight? Guns for citizens are for self defense. Cars are for movement from place to place. Both cars and guns can be misused to hurt or kill people. It's a valid question.

[@dewaynethomas3122]

@@joshh7819 Is that right? www.huffpost.com/entry/the-easiest-states-to-buy-a-gun_n_5735cfa8e4b08f96c182dc38 I'm not gonna even bother reading this shit. I can spend the same amount of time buying a gun off craigslist where I know for a fact I won't need an ID. Regardless, cars aren't specifically designed for destruction. That is the only goal of a gun. But limiting road car's top speed isn't actually a bad idea. Not that this analogy makes any sense anyway. He woulda been better off asking why we don't ban knives. Except, we do ban ones that are specifically made for destruction. I'll quote what's illegal "Any blackjack, sandbag, metal knuckles, dagger, knife, razor or cutting instrument, the blade of which is exposed in an automatic way by switch, push-button, spring mechanism, or otherwise." And why can't we legally mount guns onto cars? You literally can't even mount a dummy (fake) gun onto a car. Weird right? You know what else kills people when being misused and is illegal? Drugs. And they aren't even designed to kill people. Well, most of them at least. What happened when people realized they could cook meth using an over the counter easy to find drug? They made it much harder to obtain it. But please, don't give me that shit about guns being needed for self defense. We are talking about automatic weapons here. Are you afraid of being attacked in your home by a car full of clowns or something? A fucking mob? Shit, why aren't rocket launchers legal? Can't miss with one of those.

[@SJVlogzz]

Honestly this panel pissed me off. Ya Colion might not be from your camp but don't treat him like shit when he's obviously well-spoken and intelligent and trying to have a conversation..

[@dewaynethomas3122]

Well spoken, sure. But his points are some Fox News parrot shit. Massive lack in critically thinking. This is the plague of America.

[@badbutton5869]

@@dewaynethomas3122 He is the one that lacks critical thinking.. but is the one that is not allowed to finish a single talking point.. swell observation there.

[@JuICyBLiinGeR]

Dude is a dumb fuck. Called himself Tha God when his knowledge was that of one book only. Idiot.

[@giorgisikharulidze2169]

SJ Vlogzz l mean his opinions should be trashed!!! The fact that he’s intelligent or well spoken doesn’t give him a pass to respect

[@MrThistleMilk]

@@giorgisikharulidze2169 So you're saying someone who is well versed and knowledgeable about an issue should have his opinions trashed because you don't like them?

[@Adultz94]

"NO one is saying ban your gun" Beto and the audience of the 2019 DNC debate: hold my beer

[@dewaynethomas3122]

Also Trump: "Hold my keg." kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6nKqpWderB7fqs

[@dewaynethomas3122]

Also Trump: "Hold my keg" kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6nKqpWderB7fqs

[@natalieshafer3839]

Will you please watch "Switzerland: So many guns, no mass shootings/Jordan Klepper" it's on YT. You may be resistant bc it's hosted by a liberal person. But PLEASE just focus on the point. Switzerland is probably the most heavily armed nation on the planet, yet gun violence is almost non-existent. WHY oh WHY aren't we following their playbook? (Rhetorical- I almost guarantee you'll ask the same).

[@lynnmckenney1987]

She had literally JUST talked about wanting the assualt weapons ban being put back into place. BAN, lol

[@FirstnameLastname-yk2js]

@@natalieshafer3839 I’ve already asked that when I was younger. 3 main reason for why: 1.They are a Homogeneous Country. 2. They have a very different culture 3. Most Swiss Citizens are Soldiers

[@arthurmorgan6087]

Left interviewees: *breathes* Crowd: WHOOOOOOOO

[@AceBallon3721]

True

[@rhettdale7027]

🐑

[@taffysaur]

@@rhettdale7027 More like trained seals than even sheep, lol.

[@Scbirdsfan803]

This was the difference in Colin making valid points and that lady "scoring points"

[@chinmaypurohit3431]

I mean Neera is extremely smug yes, hence Biden had to pull her down, BUT Cars accidentally kill people and as guns are used in a manslaughter in its most docile form. Come on she is just better equipped to take on Colion.

[@Scbirdsfan803]

@@chinmaypurohit3431 define "accidently kill people"

[@kasdcomoa5567]

@@chinmaypurohit3431 Do you think if someone driving under the influence of alcohol or other drugs kills someone it's "accidental"?

[@fadetoblack2104]

@@chinmaypurohit3431 I carry my guns for my protection, luckily I've only used my firearms to poke holes in paper targets and to plink steel targets, but I still carry one. My guns, in their most docile form are in their holster in a cabinet, or in my safe, or in my nightstand. Those guns will not commit manslaughter without a human at the other end, same as the cars that you mention that accidentally kill people. Why, when it comes to guns, is the argument always about the tool and not about the human aspect of the crime?

[@RatchetandSly]

@@kasdcomoa5567 Criminal negligence, but still accidental. Most drunk drivers don't intentionally run people over

[@akkrost8765]

When he said "youre attributing a negative character to firearms" and she responds with "yes because lots of people die by them." Is that not the same thing as someone looking at a skin color of someone and being more weary of that individual? I really cannot stand the hypocrisy of these people. Its actual lunacy.

[@bigsatanloaf]

Racial prejudice is not the same as acknowledging gun murders.

[@kingofnines213]

@@bigsatanloaf She''s prejudiced against gun owners, take out the word racial and boom. not that hard man.

[@bigsatanloaf]

@@kingofnines213 Acknowledging gun murders does not prejudice gun owners.

[@kasdcomoa5567]

@@bigsatanloaf She literally states her prejudice in the video. She doesn't like or appreciate the picture of the gun collection because of her PREJUDICE against guns. From a gun hobbyist perspective seeing that picture is no different than seeing some famous persons massive car collection. But her initial and only reaction is her prejudiced view of guns basically just being things mass shooters and criminals use.

[@michaelcain721]

I’m sorry but can firearms not have a negative character assigned to them when their sole purpose is used to injure or kill someone? I agree she was very annoying in this video but she had a valid point here

[@CH-oh7uw]

Anti gunners : we’re not trying to ban your Gun Also anti gunners: We present HR 127

[@classdpersonnel115]

Fax

[@alecbowman4127]

What else would you expect from Democrats?

[@jenniferv9189]

Facts

[@j-xl6258]

www.change.org/p/president-joe-biden-to-abolish-the-h-r-127-sabika-sheikh-firearm-licensing-and-registration-act

[@soccerguy325]

WTF is an "anti gunner"? LOL

[@tcard4723]

It's always great listening to non black people telling black people stats about black people

[@TheBent139]

In the same way that Kendi tells whites they should wallow in their guilt and pay reparations for something which none of us were involved. Bill has no statistical evidence to back up his claim that white people are often excused for shooting black people under Stand Your Ground. White people arent generally the ones who shoot black people. The FBI statistics on that have remained the same for some time.

[@jonathanhuff4949]

It’s also great watching someone look dumb and they don’t even realize it😂😂better yet a couple people in this case

[@matthewjanes113]

Notice how they never answer Colions questions. It's obvious that he's the smartest one up there

[@sickcommode-odragon4193]

Well he is well researched and a lawyer to boot.

[@thetriforceknight6281]

They don’t even let him talk. They keep cutting him off

[@christiansigler4827]

Yes. He is a smart man indeed.

[@landenmichelin4980]

@@sickcommode-odragon4193 yes

[@francobenevento7598]

😂 Neera destroyed him in this debate. What show were you watching?

[@somesinger1575]

"Nobody is trying to take your guns" . . . That didn't hold up well.

[@bigsatanloaf]

The point is nobody with power advocates total prohibition of all firearms.

[@koleyo9072]

@@bigsatanloaf Just the vast majority of them. lol

[@taffysaur]

@@bigsatanloaf Just, what, “semi-automatic weapons”..? Like Noir said, that is effectively ALL guns. The majority of mass shootings are done with handguns.

[@gina_st.george]

The left: Talks about banning assault rifles The right: Makes assumption that the left wants to take ALL of their guns No CIVILIAN needs access to an ASSAULT RIFLE. Its purpose lies in its name. Assault rifles are intended to destroy their target.

[@acrane1100]

@@gina_st.george because the left refuses to define “assault weapon” and when they do describe weapons they don’t like it describes literally every gun in existence. So yes, the left would like an outright gun ban.

[@racer89gt]

Bill owes Colion another shot- a chance to actually finish a sentence.

[@voyager1420]

And an apology

[@bigsatanloaf]

Colion is mediocre.

[@WBKimmons]

@@bigsatanloaf nah. But you are

[@sarcastickz6885]

When does Bill ever let anyone finish a sentence?

[@jellis9618]

Yeah. This was the most shitshow segment I’ve seen because they never once gave him a shot.

[@alexcusma4908]

The complete lack of knowledge by the 3 clowns on the left is priceless. Colion well done.

[@titaniumknight8683]

6:47 Noir makes a really good point, multiple studies show that the US is never #1 in the suicide rate. It’s actually a lot of these second-world counties which have actually have really strict gun laws.

[@bjbell52]

Your claim is that strict gun laws increase the suicide rate? You've got to prove that one to us!

[@achinthmurali5207]

Actually we are in the top 10 of the OECD nations for suicide. So yes it’s serious.

[@dbill7486]

Bill's comment "I'm scared, I get to shoot you" shows his absolute ignorance of stand your ground laws. Prior to becoming a CWFL holder I had to participate in training which focused on the rules and laws about when and where I can carry, and where and how I can use my firearm. This included a review of what "stand your ground" laws do and do not allow. Being scared does NOT give anyone the right to just shoot someone.

[@pizza44ful]

That's the main issue is uneducated people who don't know what they are fighting against.

[@bigsatanloaf]

One problem with stand your ground laws is their vagueness. Self-defense has always been an affirmative defense to criminal charges that involve personal violence, which makes the intended purpose of stand your ground laws unclear.

[@gladonos3384]

The courts being racist is just shifting the goal post. It has fuck all to do with that as that is an issue with the courts not stand your ground(Not that i even agree with that shit but sadly i have to defend it from retards.)

[@claiminglight]

The question at hand is how it's handled in practice, in the courts. Your training course has no baring on the argument at hand.

[@chriscosby2459]

Bill Maher is a typical knee jerk liberal.

[@trevonhaygood6567]

When they laughed about stand your ground is upsetting.

[@philipgeary4360]

Exactly and they act like it is a licence to kill not a law to protect somebody who was forced to defend themselves.

[@abigbutterstick1780]

@@philipgeary4360 Coming in super late but it's so ironic considering how many of these politicians want armed security wherever they go but I suppose since we aren't well known we shouldn't have that right.

[@MouthfulOfZach]

Woman: "Guns bad, guns scary" Audience: "goes fucking wild with applause"

[@fanboyhex1555]

I noticed that to and I'm wondering "are they applauding because they're stupid and they don't know why they're applauding, or because the APPLAUSE light is blinking"... maybe both.

[@MouthfulOfZach]

@@fanboyhex1555 I'd applaud sarcastically and be lost in the crowd

[@co-bruh1423]

The sheep are good at one thing and one thing only

[@TheFantasticSeal]

they didnt let colion talk

[@overkobragaming]

Yeah he was being respectful and that was the problem you can't let them cut you off or be nice to them because they get their points across without letting you disagree and keep talking that's why colion didn't do to well because he was being respectful when you have to be kinda the villian in a way to go against people like this.

[@MacroAggressor]

"No-one is saying you can't own a gun"... this didn't age well.

[@dewaynethomas3122]

No kidding. Fucking Trump, as usual. kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6nKqpWderB7fqs

[@mike-0451]

@@dewaynethomas3122 as usual?

[@dewaynethomas3122]

@@mike-0451 Lying about everything he said and throwin democracy aside, as usual.

[@mike-0451]

@@dewaynethomas3122 Let's assume that's true. Is Biden not ACTUALLY guilty of all of these things?

[@dewaynethomas3122]

@@mike-0451 want me to run down liosts of ex presidents' bullshit?

[@grifballa]

"I totally hear what you're saying..." And yet you are not listening.

[@zacharysweaver]

This is ridiculous - have Colion on to react and make a rebuttal, but only let him have brief answers and keep talking so that he can’t. And then move on so that we win the argument to the audience by moving onto the next subject before we can let Colion state his sensibility on the subject matter. Real nice.

[@taylormotyl5085]

Everytime she breathed... thunderous applause

[@TheFatAssCat]

"Nobody is trying to take your guns" California, NY, NJ, etc: "Hold my beer" Seriously, you're being dishonest if you say that while also arguing to ban assault rifles, which are effectively just semi-automatic rifles in black paint.

[@deepdish2034]

Question if we ban assault style rifles is "your right to bear arms" infringed upon?

[@wurzel9671]

@@deepdish2034 That would be an infringement yes

[@smtbigelow]

@@deepdish2034 Where in the Second Amendment does it clarify which arms I can own.... its says ARMS period.

[@abolishguncontrollaws5689]

@@deepdish2034 banning a model of arms is a direct infringement. It's not difficult to grasp

[@deepdish2034]

@@wurzel9671 how has "your right to bear arms" been infringed upon? Can you not own guns? Yes! So no your right to bear arms has not been infringed upon

[@NewGoldStandard]

Neera loves to hear herself talk. a lot.

[@Illumirage]

she's a cunt

[@WittyUsernamehere]

Yes and she was caught in the Podesta email that were released by Wikileaks. She's just as horrible as Hillary Clinton. Bill shouldn't even have her on the show anymore.

[@Illumirage]

Witty Wait can you explain that a little? I have no idea who this woman is? Was she part of the Barack Obama cabinet or something?

[@WittyUsernamehere]

Hi Damien, yes she worked for Obama for a while, but is also someone who worked for Hillary Clinton during the 2016 Presidential Election and is a big Hillary supporter. When, in 2016, Wikileaks released the Podesta emails, (From John Podesta who was chairman of Hillary Clinton's 2016 U.S. presidential campaign) there were a lot of exchanges from many of the people in the Clinton campaign and the email made them all look very bad. With some very damning stuff in the emails. Tanden was amongst those whose emails were leaked. I dislike her a lot because she acts like it's no big deal but it shows her and other people to be quite dishonest and crooked.

[@Illumirage]

Worked for Obama AND Clinton. God help us. She has that heir of arrogance....

[@TheRoguelement]

Hey Bill .... "New Rule" If you ask a panel member a question ......You have to give them the full 30 seconds you allow to answer it !

[@rhcp4life697]

Neera: I’m worried a person like this with 500 guns has the ability to kill soooo many people Colion: he only has 2 hands! Neera is so clueless 😂

[@PBthesquirrel]

Yeah that was weird. I do think that guy has more killing ability bc he can now invite people in his community who may not have a gun to join him. He's got an arsenal, he just needs the charisma to get an army of people behind him. *For the record, I'm not saying that this particular gun owner wants to do that.* I'm saying that this photo is proof that a starndard American can acquire 500+ guns, including the potential new Marilyn Mansons and Jim Jones's of the country.

[@rhcp4life697]

Jessica Hebin if you aren’t used to them or being around them then I can see how they would be scary to you.

[@PBthesquirrel]

@@rhcp4life697 Maybe people should be a little scared of guns. Or at least extremely cautious around them. Maybe that guy should keep them in a locked showcase instead of lined up outside in his carport.

[@rhcp4life697]

Jessica Hebin why be scared of them once you know how they work? Im sure I’ll catch hell for using this example but A car can kill someone just as easily. The only reason we aren’t scared of them is because everyone learns how they work at a young age. I’ve owned guns and been around them my whole life and not a single one of them has ever fired by themselves just sitting there leaned against the wall.

[@PBthesquirrel]

@@rhcp4life697 I wish I knew how my car worked! XD no but really though, I have no clue what happens under the hood...

[@thedigitalodometer945]

0:35 You can tell that Neera became uncomfortable when she learned that Colion Noir voted for Trump. And though she agrees with Bill about how we need to see others as more than our political beliefs, she doesn’t act that way, at least in this video.

[@ITRIEDEL]

FACT: Gun Violence has been going down. FACT: Shootings in general have gone down. FACT: There are more firearms in circulation than there were in the 70’s at the peak of the firearm violence.

[@lanceross5869]

@Mike will Think the point was the violent crime overall has gone down. Gun violence has gone up, violent crime has gone down. Mass shootings are not necessarily up and you fell for the hook line and sinker of the definition of a mass shooting changing. There is no actual definition for mass shooting so your sources will vary in total number. Terrorists acts of mass shootings are definitely up but doesn't mean guns are the problem. Your last statistic doesn't count that 64% of the shooters killed themselves or other circumstances where the shooter ran out of ammo, fled the scene, etc. An unarmed person isn't stopping someone who isn't willingly stopping someone with a firearm without an element of surprise. You could do a sample where someone unarmed tries to rush a shooter and 9/10 they will fail. Add a firearm to the victims hands, the chances will go up.

[@xors5372]

@Mike will lmao, you're probably one of the stupid people who think gun laws actually lower gun violence

[@Oheng75]

Wow, it took a whole 2 minutes before race was dragged into the discussion. That's pretty long.

[@michaelcain721]

Oheng75 if Michael Eric Dyson was on it would have been brought up with 3 seconds

[@tasonjodd5151]

Seriously

[@claiminglight]

Race *is* central to the discussion on stand your ground laws. It wasn't conjured out of nothing.

[@DeathStrikeVirus]

Michael Smerconish nailed it on data integration. The majority of these mass shooters, law enforcement on the local/federal level were warned about before hand.

[@mrstrange5733]

True. But the bald druggy dude also said something NEITHER SIDE says. INCLUSION! If The Starting Quarterback was best friends with The Bullied Outcast loser types, those loser types wouldn’t be bullied and would be equal with the popular football dude. I think if Homeroom could be used as GROUP THERAPY, where all students talked to each other as EQUALS, empathizing with issues they struggled with, Bullying would stop, Everybody would respect Each other and the school shooters would be dating the cheerleaders rather than being mocked by the cheerleaders, etc. neither republicans nor democrats can see this because neither side wants this solved! I’m tired of it! This is the damn solution and neither side wants to see it. Still, I love guns and guns aren’t to blame. Anything can be used to kill. Even a pencil.

[@DeathStrikeVirus]

The narrative that school shooters are bullied outcasts is fake news. It started with Columbine, MSM lying for a headline.

[@ptaylor3303]

DeathStrikeVirus Law enforcement warning? how childish that sounds, for people to depend on police officer warnings, and what in the name of common sense will you do this corrupted government armed and backed by their (not your) police disarm and violate your freedom? Grow up and think harder!

[@DeathStrikeVirus]

Nothing you typed to me was coherent, what are you going on about?

[@warogore]

Yeah, and tragically nothing was done to prevent those shootings.

[@ursaltydog]

You have to admit, the panel couldn't adequately defend their positions against Colion Noir's thoughtful responses and questions..

[@kaysi768]

lol he made no logical points, please name one, he basically said i liked guns, and the lady had a retort for every one of his points. Cars is the go to for gun nuts, Cars purpose is to get your from point a to point, a guns point is to kill full stop

[@MKRocker2012]

@@kaysi768 What you meant to say is that cars driven by people with good intentions get you from point A to point B, whereas cars driven by people with bad intentions can and are used to take innocent lives, as we have seen PLENTY of times throughout history. Just as guns used by people with good intentions can be used to stop people with bad intentions, as we have also seen PLENTY of times throughout history. That is what you, and everyone who pushes for stricter gun control laws fail to realize.

[@90klh]

Yeah they did and really this guy's name is Noir? Like lol no

[@styxhisdicksahammerdyxdyxd8467]

No a guns purpose (within the context of the second amendment) is not to kill, it's to defend yourself. If a group of people with knives try to rob me but I pull out my concealed carry and they run off, nobody got killed and yet the gun still served it's purpose because I defended myself. See how that works, you fucking brainlet?

[@deepdish2034]

Guns are dangerous! Cars are regulated, not manufactured to kill, and drivers are screened, licensed and insured to use a car lawfully

[@matthewjanes113]

Colion, keep up the great work.

[@jimmyhunt9081]

Depression is up an extra 20% since 2005, because of social media and bad parenting

[@marko3296]

A black NRA Trump supporting lawyer that comes on a show with a cap. Now I’ve seen everything

[@notyourtypicalfarah7194]

Whats wrong with a cap?

[@ptaylor3303]

No, whats more amazing, is a conversation being lead by a female, who has as much firearm knowledge as "lamb chops" allowed to dominate the conversation, raises the "stand your ground" as a limp defense argument for gun ban reversals, her right arm man, literally, Mr. Scary eyes to her right using twisted suicide stats as an argument for gun control. Oh, backed by a seal clapping audience, seats filled by the ignorant and fearful, a stacked panel of shifty, fact twisting anti-gunners, who dominate only by numbers to one pro-gunner, and when failing in logical argument, the moderator (Maher) conveniently ends the show. Sad truth is the left's (Democrats) answer to gun violence is always through legislation, passing more laws prohibiting firearms as a legal civil defense against crime, under the false security blanket that the government and police state is their saviour, Horse Manure!

[@williecatch9]

P Taylor You ARE the gun nut that I would happily vote to be drug tested, mentally tested, background tested, I.Q tested and any other test I could think of before I allow you to legally purchase a gun in society. You didn’t even say “hey, why aren’t we looking into mental health as much as gun control?”, which would’ve been (say it with me) A LOGICAL CONCLUSION! Like talking to a fucking wall. I’m thoroughly convinced NRA members are just a bunch of pansies afraid of a fist fight.

[@tylerbrock4068]

e.g John what’s not shocking..., he’s a fucking idiot.

[@scottwilliam3470]

e.g John he's being paid very well

[@codychaloupek7639]

Get background checks. Now how would you in force that. Her: 😕😕😕

[@fraser4198]

i know right its not like its worked in every other country. oh wate

[@alecbowman4127]

She’s incredibly annoying.

[@codychaloupek7639]

@@fraser4198 so then how would you I force it then

[@fraser4198]

@@codychaloupek7639 not going to go into the legistiics. but all i would say is that it has been scienttifically proven that less guns means less gun violence. in every country were there is gun restriction there is less gun injuries. australia had a massive gun crisis and solved it through tough backround cecks and banning oh high powered rifles. america is the only 1st world country with this problem, u might want to do something sbout it.

[@codychaloupek7639]

@@fraser4198 But there is no way to tell if someone’s grandpa gave them a gun. There is just no way to know that.

[@The1stJack]

I've never witnessed so many smooth brains in one audience

[@clootscalhoun9481]

Bill: “question for Colion: ‘do you think we need stricter gun laws?” Colion: “well I--“ Neera: “thanks I’ll take it from here”

[@NewMessage]

Love when these guys argue that we shouldn't licence guns because 'What are yo gonna do.. licence cars next?" * blinks *

[@kyleloader5145]

New Message Red shirt: no one wants to ban your guns 9:44 Also red shirt: we had an assault weapons ban 1:39 And you call us crazy about gun bans

[@kerosun4598]

No one has ever made that argument. Also: driving a car is a privilege, not a right. Big difference. If owning guns was not a constitutional right, then there would be no issues with some sort of DMV-like registry of gun-ownership with titles that have to be transferred, etc. But just like you don't have to register and receive a license to exercise any of your 1st amendment rights, you shouldn't have to do the same for your 2nd amendment rights (within reason: I find it reasonable to have to receive a license and register to own automatic weapons or explosive weaponry like RPGs and grenades; but not for semiautomatics and lesser firearms that are used for hunting, self-defense and sport).

[@smtbigelow]

You do realize here in California guns cannot be sold without a license and backround check, we just had two shootings in a week, hows that working out.

[@scottpeters1142]

Bills really good at pulling the rug out when his opposition starts making points he or his friends can't get around..

[@kaysi768]

yeah the guy made no good points at all, all he said was i like gun, i like guns, the lady was making valuable logical points

[@hellishcyberdemon7112]

@@kaysi768 your a fucking dumbass shut up

[@deepdish2034]

Yeah it's not like shows have time restraints or anything

[@deepdish2034]

@@hellishcyberdemon7112 no "you're" a dumbass, dumbass!

[@butterflymage5623]

ComicBookGuy Henderson that’s all you heard, but that’s not what he said.

[@LORD_V4D3R]

This chick is so out of touch with reality it literally gave me a headache so thanks for that

[@g0dm4st3r]

Everytime she opened her mouth, my IQ dropped by ten points.

[@billysm00th]

I'd still fuck

[@sucram1015]

@@billysm00th 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Your comment though! Jesus!

[@realrobh]

I can't take this lady... she interrupts everyone and doesn't allow points

[@ef9432]

Mwangamizi Ogun exactly

[@garzascreek]

I do not know why Bill allows that screeching harpy back on his show. Hard to look at and hard to listen to. Even if she had a logical brain that voice just takes too much of a toll for her to be a talking head.

[@kalijasin]

Being interrupted somehow makes his points factually true?

[@realrobh]

"Rudeness, is the weak person's (man's) imitation of strength."

[@tacticalcrusader3709]

@@kalijasin no his points being factually true makes them factually true. See how logic works?

[@CybershamanX]

Jesus... How do you enforce _any_ law? You punish those that don't comply. Christ, this guy is making it seem like it's impossible. Again, how do we regulate _anything_ ? Like, there are some people who don't get a driver's license, but they also get busted if they are caught driving without one. Here's a thought: maybe we should approach owning a firearm like we do cars? Perhaps you should get a gun license that has to be renewed (which would also entail a background check) every 4 years? Just model it like you do with getting a driver's license. Take "Gen Ed" and get a learners permit that lets you shoot as long as another licensed gun user is with you until you can get a full license. Also, you have to be able to _see_ so an eye test would be involved. I think that would be pretty reasonable. As far as gun sales go, just like with cars there would only be certain kinds of firearms that would be allowed on the street. Also, as long as you are then a licensed gun user, you could buy any street legal weapon you want without a background check because all of that would have been taken care of when you got your license. And then you would register your firearms and get a number for every gun you own. Perhaps even require people to get insurance to go with their guns much like you do with cars. Yeah, the more I think about it, I think that would be a pretty good idea. Gun Licenses... Think about that and start talking with people about it! ;)

[@ZarkowsWorld]

So the issue is not to have a mandatory background-check, but to hold whoever sold a gun to someone going onto carrying out a crime to be held partially responsible, no? And THAT would be fine to add as a law.

[@CybershamanX]

+Zarkow You were reading my mind and I was _just_ making a post about that! Just finished it... Hope this makes sense because I really think this is a good idea. Thank you for taking the time to comment. I think this deserves some serious consideration. :) Making it so the time of the background checks is focused on the user license rather than at the time of sale, it should result in less chaotic flow of background checking. Right now, background checks happen at the time a gun is purchased which takes time and sometimes get backed up. So, if we had gun licenses, the checks would only happen at the time of application (and renewal) for a license. I've heard that background checks often get backed up. So, with gun licenses when somebody buys a gun, all the seller would have to do would be to fill out the back of the title for the firearm (just like you do when selling your car) stipulating who the purchaser is and their gun license number. Then the original owner would then mail in their part (make it a perforated tear-away portion of the title) which would indicate to the government that they no longer own the weapon and that they sold it to another, including their name and license number. That absolves the original owner of any responsibility if the new owner doesn't follow through with registering their purchase. _Just_ like with cars! Sounds like it would be easy peezy and quell any worries about gun sellers having to be responsible for doing the background checks. :)

[@lindajallen3805]

Cyber- I think that is a reasonable idea, but you are trying to convince unreasonable, illogical people. But I would like to add limitations not one person has any need for 500+ guns. How is owning 500+guns legal? That is just insane to me.

[@ZarkowsWorld]

Linda J Allen >> I rather have a person own 500 guns than 500 cats or be poor with 3+ kids. The latter is a precursor for criminality. A higher number of guns legally owned is NOT.

[@CybershamanX]

+Linda J Allen I hear where you are coming from. That gets into the psychology of the mass gun ownership and would be incredibly hard (if not downright impossible? :/ ) to put into legalese. What number of guns is too many? Is a pistol "worth less" than a rifle? Does a large magazine count? What size of magazine? I definitely feel your thoughts. But, there are legitimate collectors out there who, say, have many historical weapons or even just different models of today's guns. So, there's a difference there, too. When is someone a collector and when are they stockpiling for a conflict? Can you only have so many of one make/type of gun until collecting is not what you are doing? I hope this makes some sense. Thank you so much for your feedback! :) BTW, yes there are definitely some illogical people out there. But, my appeal is to those that are of the reasonable variety. There are plenty of them out there. Many, in fact. I once worked in an blue collar rural environment and there were many gun owners. All except for one guy could be talked to in a very reasonable (like, a fun sit down and have a bite and a beer with) manner. I think the media doesn't do enough service to the many people who are nice and intelligent. Sadly, you usually see the worst side and even more sadly, from groups like the NRA. I know several gun owners that don't like the NRA at all. But, anyway...(I need to sleep! ;) )...I think the license idea is pretty good and addresses a lot of the concerns that the gun owners I've known talk about. Also, the idea that _all_ guns might be taken away is also being spread by the likes of the NRA in an effort to spread fear and distrust. But, ask (to my knowledge/I could be wrong) any pro-gun control politician and they will say they are _NOT_ out to do that (with the exception of military grade weapons). There may very well come a day that that happens (when most people are comfortably in the middle-class and feel safe...so less income inequality/racism/employment, in other words), but right now, getting a reasonable handle on the flow and use of guns is likely the best way to go. Have to sleep now! I hope some nice gun owners come by to give their thoughts/ideas. Take care! :)

[@flyferrari458]

This is America

[@leonardwharris]

Guns in my area

[@ytubeanon]

lol@America

[@brendane.f.1287]

That's exactly what I said! This is America now. Retreat to your corners: Liberal gets overly emotional about every topic and the more you scream "GUN CONTROL" the more applause you'll get from this audience, and Right-wing guy just repeats the worst brick-wall talking points I've ever heard. I've watched his videos; he's smarter than this. She wasn't budging an inch and neither was he. Every debate is getting more and more polarized and I don't fucking like where it's going

[@kathykeller3430]

What the hell is that supposed to mean??? Elucidate!!

[@gonzalomartinez9315]

The greatest country in the history of the world.

[@MacroAggressor]

It's great that they brought a token conservative on so they could all talk over him... smh

[@abigbutterstick1780]

Take a drink everytime Noir gets interrupted

[@DPowered2]

His car analogy was a good point but not for his point. Cars can take you places and carry things and many other purposes but a guns soul purpose is to do harm. Its not even like a knife in utility guns are made specifically to do harm to someone else and the argument that "how would you enforce that" is like saying well people are going to murder no matter what you do so don't pass laws or do anything about it

[@ZarkowsWorld]

A guns 'soul' [sic] purpose is to harm? LOL

[@swagar]

Not to mention he specified car accidents. He wasn't talking about intentionally driving into a crowd, which is so rare it makes national news, like in Charlottesville. No, he said "accidents". If the biggest risk with guns was accidents, the country would be a much safer place.

[@kielweiss3606]

Guns are specifically weapons of war. They're not like bows or spears which were hunting implements adapted to warfare, guns original purpose was specifically a weapon of war. Also we have to registered and get licences to operate cars and that ability can be taken away...

[@rhondah1587]

I would be thrilled if gun ownership was regulated as well as car ownership. You have to be tested to get a license, you have to have insurance, you have to pay for registration, you get fined for driving improperly, your license can be revoked if you infringe the traffic laws by driving drunk, etc. Wow If guns were regulated like that, maybe it would help. NRA wants no regulations and falsely continues to claim "They are coming for your guns." LMAO

[@beckyguelette5114]

DPowered Smith as a hunter I own guns, but no one not in uniform should have the capability to mow down 6oo people as happened in Vegas.

[@Poochie1]

We have a real mental health problem in this country, 😂😂😂, yeah look at the government

[@LiftHeavy1]

Amused Outsider same people they want to protect you

[@jesushatesyoutoo]

Yeah, Trump is insane!

[@docholliday1993]

I can't stand it when Neera Tanden speaks.

[@pratical_indifference]

A universal background check can only be done through a national gun registry.

[@ragingoracle6239]

THis!

[@ThatManitobaGuy]

The suicide argument is hilarious. In Canada when they brought in Bill C-68 in the 90's, suicide by firearms didn't drop, the method if suicide changed but the number remained the same.

[@meganh9460]

In Australia when they banned guns you saw a 100% increase in home invasions on the elderly because everyone knew they were unarmed.

[@TheYankeesUnited]

Megan H 100% increase? Where are those numbers.

[@meganh9460]

+Steve I got my stats, myself, from Australians government website. You can check yourself, pre ban in 96 the rate of break ins to 98 after the ban was implemented. Your friends sound like idiots who don't know the stats of their own government web sites. There are plenty of articles and videos about it if you wish to read about it that way, or you can do as I did and look at the hard data yourself. Murders stayed the same, gun violence dropped (obviously), but home invasions shot through the roof. All your doing is trading victims. Who needs guns the most? Those who are not strong, aka women and the elderly. The gun is the great equalizer, and sure if you want to go back to the time when physical strength dominated then sure, ban guns.

[@meganh9460]

+nytolstoy On their government website.

[@meganh9460]

Its not unheard of . Criminals often say they don't fear the police, they fear home owners with guns. Once they knew all those guns were gone, criminals started targeting the elderly. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qWXVkJx7qdGDkMU

[@julianbluefeather8491]

It’s funny how the black guy brings up cars, when in my state in order to drive you must pass a written test for a permit, wait six months and likely enroll in drivers education, then demonstrate to the government that you can safely drive a car. Shocked nobody used that against him.

[@dougg2729]

The flaw in your example is one is a constitutional right and one is not. What test did you take for free speech?

[@Aleckael]

That is incorrect, the example you cite is to drive a car in a public place. Where as you are pushing forth the notion someone should have to pass a test to simply purchase a gun.

[@seencapone]

Doug G that’s exactly why we need to repeal the 2nd Am and put gun ownership in the same regulated category as every other (potentially dangerous) privilege that we enjoy and not take for granted. And just because it’s in the Constitution doesn’t mean that it’s guaranteed or shouldn’t be strongly regulated. You make no valid argument here.

[@OndrejVeris]

Doug G, are you a well regulated militia or what are you talking about?

[@Boospoochie]

Julian Bluefeather ~ and don't forget that your car has to also be licensed and you have to have insurance--both of which you should be required to have to own a gun.

[@tomgosy]

I have an inkling that the audience might be just a little biased... if I was Colion I think I would've given up al hope by the end

[@electricbooga1oo617]

I’m about to go doomguy on the crowd

[@tacos1308]

Rip nd tear my child

[@electricbooga1oo617]

@@tacos1308 blood for the blood gods BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GODS

[@TuEIite]

She would NEVER dare to go on his plateform to debate, I'd bet big on that!

[@sjolson68]

Unfortunately, as with most videos, this comment section shows a pretty clear inability to draw the correct conclusions from whatever data is available. Welcome to the misinformation age where feelings are more valuable than actual facts.

[@alecbowman4127]

Explain further 🤔

[@williamgarcia4102]

I bet money you clapped every time that lady breathed....

[@dillionclayton2152]

@@alecbowman4127 I think he explained it pretty well dude. People nowadays make decisions based on their feelings, rather than factual information.

[@alecbowman4127]

@@dillionclayton2152 and do you think it’s one sided or from both sides of the aisle?

[@apathy7899]

3 years later...it's gotten worse

[@subjectofgov]

Why don't they ever discuss how many times a year people stop a crime with guns?

[@traviselder5985]

Woman: *inhales* Crowd: *goes fucking ballistic*

[@MrCal2648]

This guy is a lawyer and a gun right's activist and he doesn't know about stand your ground laws? Smh.

[@justafanintexas7913]

Point very well taken.

[@csmoothe99]

He knows stand your ground. He was so confused that anyone would be against it. If you’re against stand your ground, you’re basically saying that if presented in a situation where your life or the life of your family is in danger, if you defend yourself when you have the option to run, you can be held criminally liable. That is asinine. If someone pulls a gun or a knife on you, you have every right to defend yourself, EVEN if running and fleeing is an possibility. That was his point but the simpletons missed it.

[@justafanintexas7913]

Cody Neumann - Go to his blog, right now, and see what he's saying. It proves our point, specifically.

[@MrCal2648]

The problem is that prior to "stand your ground" laws. Most states had the Castle Doctrine which meant you had a right to defend yourself in your home without a duty to retreat. These stand your ground laws extend that to being outside without having a duty to retreat when that option is reasonable and available to you. The problem is how it has been applied in different cases. Under "stand your ground", you could literally start a fight with someone, they fight back and as soon as you feel "threatened" you can shoot them and claim self-defense. Afterall, it's your word against a dead person and if there's no one around, it's hard to tell who started the fight. This is much clearer if someone were an intruder and broke into your house under the Castle Doctrine but with stand your ground it makes "reasonable" threat much more subjective.

[@spartanladkenny7870]

Cody Neumann Not really. They're not against people defending themselves. Stand your ground laws have made it easier to shoot people. You could kill someone as long as you "feel" threatened. It could be as bad as a guy charging at you with a machete or it could be a guy talking loudly and moving towards you.

[@t1328]

We enforce background checks for employment for so many jobs. Every person I hire has to go through one that covers criminal background checks in all 50 states and much more. It works. Why would anyone think these are not enforceable other than NRA propaganda?

[@JamieLannyster]

There is an ATF background check for every time you purchase a firearm. Don't know what the panel is talking about lol.

[@kt4898]

Not every time. As was mentioned, what about gun shows and private sells?

[@ptaylor3303]

Tamir Orbach Your point? So we conduct employment background checks? and how does this relate to the banning or regulating of automatic rifles with standard magazines? And how would it stop the deaths when the stats support that the majority of these firearms are already illegally obtained. So, the leftist answer is to create more laws that violate law abiding citizen rights! Utter nonsense!

[@ptaylor3303]

KT What about gun shows and sales? How does that relate to the prevention of crimes committed by firearms purchased in the black market as done with the drugs? The anti-gunners response is to pass more gun laws and disarm it community making it the pray of same evil folks they are trying defend themselves from. Where is the democratic logic in that? Stupidity!

[@kt4898]

P Taylor My comment was in response to Jaime Lannister's comment that there is an ATF background check for every time you purchase a firearm. Not mentioning Jaime Lannister's name in my comment may have caused confusion in its meaning. I don' believe that universal background checks are gonna to prevent crimes committed by firearms. I can't believe anyone would truly think that. And as others have commented, the fact that laws and regulations will not prevent all crime, does not mean that we should have no laws or regulations.

[@bookerdewitt4811]

3:55 "I see how you're gonna play"

[@2Aallday]

Love Colion!

[@derekjayyy]

Comparing car deaths to gun deaths is always a dumb argument. We are actively working to make cars safer and more autonomous. Eventually when all cars are self driving there will be close to zero deaths from accidents. The same cannot be said for guns

[@warogore]

Sure nothing could ever go wrong when a computer is controlling everything.

[@vidgami46]

The reason its brought up is because leftists keep on treating guns like they're sentient. 500 guns belonging to one guy doesn't make him a 1 man army, just like one guy owning 500 cars doesn't mean he can clog a freeway on his own. It's about the intent of the person, not the object itself.

[@YorktownUSA]

derekjayyy True, but tell me... do you want to live in a word with autonomous armies with nothing to defend yourself with?

[@einyv]

I do get it though. Today while I was a passenger in there car in a couple hour time span we saw 6 people that were swirving in their lane. As we passed each one I looked and 5 of the 6 were texting and driving. The last one was reading paperwork off a clipboard on the steering wheel. Amazing I did not pass one person waving around a gun. So my life was in more danger from idiots driving than someone with a gun. Texting, drinking, excessive speeding, distracted driving are all intentional acts so I don't consider people killed by these people accidents. Autonomous driving is still a long way out until then more people are still killed each year through driving than by a gun. Yes the primary intent of a gun is to kill. Nonetheless it is used for other purposes as well that does not involve killing humans. Just as the primary purpose of a car is not to kill yet does so very effectivly from drivers intentionally driving distracted. I personally think anyone killed by someone drinking and driving or texting and driving that driver should automatically be charged with 1st degree murder. Everyone knows doing those acts while driving leads to a higher probability of getting into an accident and killing someone, yet choose to do it anyway and don't care if that occurs. But alas many don't like this argument because many that are anti-gun text and drive and they are more of a danger with their car to others than the average gun owner. We can have background checks. Implement mandatory training. Make all private sales through a FFL, every 5 years a test to check firearm proficiency or evidence classes have been taken in that time. Implement 96 hour waiting period which would perhaps stop the people who buy a gun and kill themselves right away or people in domestic situations that are angry and would allow a cool off period, but I don't know how many that would impact. Suicides make up around 55-60% of all gun deaths. Countries with strict gun control like Japan still have excessive suicide rates, just not from guns. Those suggestions I think would help.

[@vidgami46]

That was the best explanation of the cars vs guns comparison I've ever read. Better than mine.

[@JarronD]

Props to colin for hanging in there in that environment

[@qualityinn5063]

Bill was being very accommodating. It was really only that Nanden lady who wasn't

[@groovyroom]

Yes he's such an intellect with so many winning arguments. ;)

[@greenman8]

I don't agree with the core of his belief, but I do agree with some of the points he brings up. (I'm middle ground, I believe Gun ownership and regulation can live together.) I felt frustrated for him.

[@jimtin515]

extremely violent societies, i don't know where you get your information...Trump University...It's just not true

[@dailyshadow]

Bill Skinner that isn’t the middle ground. That’s exactly what she was saying. Let’s regulate guns, not take them away.

[@nq6508]

Stand your ground means if you break into my home, I have the right to stop you from hurting my family. It is ridiculous how criminals keep gaining more rights and people wonder why crime is up.

[@joegarofalo2466]

I'm a Liberal Democrat, but I have to say that Neera Tanden is easy to dislike, and that is the most polite way of putting it.

[@backlogrob8358]

Classic conservatives, have to nitpick and go into semantics when they lose the argument.

[@mrstrange5733]

He didn’t lose the debate. Bill, neera, the idiot in the middle and the whole audience kept shouting over him every time he tried talking. Go fuck youreself, dumb mindless liberal zombie. Learn how to debate.

[@BeegYoshi24]

"Go fuck yourself, dumb mindless liberal zombie. Learn how to debate." Is this you showing people how to debate? Why don't you go crawl back in your cave now?

[@mohammedrashid8250]

It's amazing to me that liberals think a gang up counts as a fair analysis of opposing ideas

[@pallekjrlaursen8388]

"Learn how to debate". Sounds really funny coming from you, Mr Strange. Good thing you were unable to find the CAPS LOCK key this morning or you would already have been YELLING your way through this comments section.

[@daxegen4301]

classic liberals have to gang up 5 to one and an have an audience mockingly laughing when the conservative speaks.

[@brianchaney22]

Mr. Noir was the clear winner in this debate.

[@dewaynethomas3122]

Lol, wow. Enjoy. kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6nKqpWderB7fqs

[@SlimeHut555]

Did they even get a word in edge wise to do with mental health??? Jesus christ, Can we please talk about mental health for once when it comes to guns...

[@timevampire83]

+1 Colion Noir

[@Saltydogg909]

If any of these people ever have a security detail, I hope none of the security or people have a firearm of any kind.

[@bigsatanloaf]

It seems reasonable to advocate for gun regulation but, in the meantime, so long as we live in a society of unfettered gun access by murderous lunatics, take whatever precautions are necessary for safety.

[@abigbutterstick1780]

@@bigsatanloaf Yes but do you think they wouldn't have an armed detail if these laws got pushed through? I guranteed they would no matter what laws were in effect.

[@ivancorey7389]

We don’t want to take your guns. Beto: “Hold my beer.”

[@alecbowman4127]

Screw Beto

[@shadowspawnxxx]

Clap trained Seals Clap.

[@juliusduvell4269]

And here comes Bill to save her in the end..I'm hungry, have this conversation somewhere else.

[@runemrick]

Reasonable gun laws work fine in Canada. It only makes sense to keep guns from the untrained, the violent, and the insane. A two day safety course with background checks discourages, or stops most of the problem people.

[@ef9432]

runemrick guess what in canada you guy's barely have guns so its way different kid.

[@runemrick]

I worked with one guy with a hundred and sixty five, many of which were handguns. Yes it's different. People get shot less.

[@2126Eliza]

The insane gravitate toward the NRA, because they know if they had to be evaluated by a professional, they wouldn't be allowed firearms

[@moonbentley7412]

Yeah ban knives to right

[@runemrick]

The above measues stop the great majority of the problem without penalizing trained, none violent, and sane gun owners. As for knives, even with a sword, it is unlikely you could kill sixty people before being stopped. Because cars and trucks can cause problems on the road, we ask they be registered, insured, and the driver properly trained. We don't ban bicycles in an attempt to be fair. It's about putting in controls that give the greatest benifiet for the citizenry while trying to protect individual rights. It works fine in Canada.

[@jstpsgthru]

For questions on "Stand Your Ground," you must speak with an expert, like Mas Ayoob or Andrew Branca. The lady is absolutely wrong. No one wants to die trying to find a hiding place. One must be under IMMEDIATE threat, to use deadly force. BTW, the NRA backs legislation restricting gun ownership by people with violent backgrounds or mental problems.

[@gr33kfr3ak8]

She literally said that more people are killed by guns than cars, all statistics point otherwise. Colion can’t even get a point across without getting interrupted by Maher’s guest or his audience. And I like Bill Maher.

[@benoh3417]

This crowd just cheers for anything

[@pjay1281]

You guys are awesome, the debate goes really well, everybody prove their points with respect. This is the type of conversation we need to solve our issues in this country.

[@NewMessage]

That's a tactic taken straight from the Russian trolls right there. When faced with a point you can't argue, ask an unanswerable question in response, then refuse to move on until your question is answered. That way you 'feel' that you won the point, and unsiphisticated onlookers might feel you did too.. but you actually did nothing for your argument, or against theirs. Just used a rhetorical trick. Like she's going to be able to lay out the complete nationwide logistical fix to background checks RIGHT THEN AND THERE. PLEASE. When you see those disingenuous 'valid questions' thrown into the argument specifically to make you look unprepared, when it was only asked to counter a question THEY were unprepared for.. a red flag should go up, and you should treat them as trolls from then on, not as perfectly reasonable people who simply disagree. He doesn't want to find a solution, he just wants to destroy any idea that doesn't make him 100% right, 100% of the time.

[@cwell510]

He went easy on her...trust me, watch his videos on his channel, they're much more in-depth and have more detailed facts that counter what she was saying. He was obvioulsy there to be used by Bill Maher as a verbal punching bag by the leftists and thats what happened. A 5 on 1 panel doesn't give him much of a chance when they don't want to hear what he's saying.

[@RIPHitchens]

He didn't have a good point, you call that going easy on someone?

[@cwell510]

RIPHitchens Reread my comments...it tells you on the 2nd line.

[@windumaster14]

New Message When you start making policy prescriptions, it MIGHT be a good idea to know how those policies will work. No, it's not a Russian conspiracy when you get asked to elaborate on your solutions. Effective legislation isn't enforced through hugs and kisses.

[@abolishguncontrollaws5689]

Because shall not be infringed.

[@joshmiller8092]

The one question that colian asked “how would you enforce that” they literally couldn’t answer 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@625098evan]

I really hate the damn audience in these things.

[@sparramore]

With all due respect 99% of all the debate comes down to the fact that both sides are not using the same set of facts. People form an opinion based on something that have not validated and then argue it without critically thinking about it.

[@StrugglerIndeed]

sparramore - Like what?

[@StrugglerIndeed]

Jonathan Oliveros - It's such an antiquated format, which will die soon enough. "You've got 30 seconds to convince me to break from my ideology and completely elaborate upon a subject that is, at the very least, unbelievably complex. Go!" Bill Maher, host a real debate someday.

[@insertcolorfulmetaphor8520]

That gentlemen from NRA TV Noir was presenting a few valid arguments, but his crutch argument was that if implementing X solution is too hard and too nuanced, then one should scrap the entire attempt at said solution. That is so disingenuous and incredibly short-sighted. Great debate skills, sir, but your ideas are crap!

[@jaredhamon3411]

Or if it is "too hard" it might be better to put your resources in an area with less resistance.

[@smtbigelow]

Every "idea" the lady was suggesting is already being used here in California, how's it working out for us? We have the strictest gun laws the nation and are at the top of the list in crime rates. You can't buy a gun here at a gun show without a background check, you can't buy one online without it being sent to an FFL and a background check. Pretty soon we won't be able to buy ammo without a background check. ITS NOT WORKING . We have a people problem, not a gun problem. But let's keep throwing laws at it, maybe one will stick.

[@smtbigelow]

Oh , and of course, five libs and one republican, Colion couldn't start to make a point without being interrupted, typical "roundtable" discussion.

[@Dalik1000]

Regarding the enforcement of background checks for private transfers, the NRA guy was leading her to the path of gun registration. You can't enforce background checks on private transfers unless you have gun registration, at which point he would've said gun registration leads to gun confiscation in the past which is true and goes against the point of having the second amendment which is the people to fight back even against the government. If the government knows who has guns, how many and what types, the government can remove those guns long before some sort of major action. I also hear a lot of ideas on what to do but not how to implement such solutions and if the implementation actually gets covered it usually ends up with the person advocating for government force even violence/death to achieve the end goal.

[@insertcolorfulmetaphor8520]

+smtbigelow Here is the bottom truth with the law (any law, all laws): Laws are just words... It's about adherance, cooperation, application, and enforcement. Right? So, when you let all fifty states have 50 different sets if gun laws, you have chaos in the application, and large loop-holes open up all over these laws. I could continue to make relevant examples and metaphors, but let's move on to an overall solution to this problem TBC.........

[@deanwest2744]

So-called "Progressives" need to realize that the Right to own firearms and protect yourself and others from harm is just that: a RIGHT. It's not up for negotiation.

[@dewaynethomas3122]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6nKqpWderB7fqs Sure it isn't, until you allow it to happen.

[@avishekbhattacharjee812]

Slavery was also a right..and there was not only negotiation but actually doing away with that particular abominable "right". I have no idea why americans like guuns so much butarenot really enthusiastic about bettsr healthcare or cheaper education..they seem to embrace forces of destruction more than things which actually matter...the oldest "democracy" has more people killed by guns than many of the so called unstable unruly middle eastern nations..even russians and chinese are not regularly killed by maniacs in their own society because it is their right to arm themselves up.

[@fanboyhex1555]

@@avishekbhattacharjee812 #1 regarding slavery, long after slavery (which many countries besides the US in that era had slavery, even tribes in Africa had slaves) it was eventually realized that slavery was contradictory to what the declaration of independence had stated "that all men are created equal"... an so the American civil war was faught (with guns) and the slaves were freed. 2# I dont know much details about Russia or China's crime rates. But i can tell you, they still have crime regardless. China barley allows people to have guns, and Russia has very restricted gun laws... but they still have crime regardless. #3 goodluck trying to tell Americans to (have laws and live like Russia & China) because it's not gonna happen, and i pray it doesn't... and if we (the American) people are told that we have to live like Russia and China, that's why we (the American) people have the 2nd Amendment. So that we have the strength and the voice and the confidence to tell any authoritarianism to "Fuck Off!!!" and "we will not comply!!!".... And #4, I couldn't care less about China and Russia gun laws and their crime rate and all that BS, because I don't live in those countries (and I wouldn't want to)... it's their country, their laws, their life style, their problems, their choice. My family left Cuba back in the 70s. Before that, my father and grandfather were good law abiding people, and they owned guns... then when Fidel Casto rose to power, one of the first things he did was find ways to regulate gun laws and ownership, and eventually he used that as a way to take away everyone's right to own guns... and then when people spoke out against him, came the executions and the unjustified imprisonment. And the people had no guns to fight back against authoritarian dictatorship. So I say to people (foreign and fellow Americans) the only real gun problem the United States of America has (will have) is when America/Americans don't have guns. God bless 🇺🇸✌🖖✊

[@tonyblair999]

Just love when brilliant Copper-Colored Aboriginals appear on RealTime.😎

[@dlittlester]

Other countries are able to enforce gun control. We do here in Canada, and I understand Australia has had success.

[@williamhulse1291]

Americans are not smart enough to do so.

[@Peopleofthesun386]

Don Little A lot of Americans are not evolved enough to use logic

[@Verirude]

lol what

[@ZarkowsWorld]

Just before you spread more lies: Many European countries has LESS gun-laws or MORE PERMISSIVE gun-laws than for instance California. It is NOT gun-laws, it is about culture. We are seeing a lot of FULLY AUTOMATIC guns come into Europe via eastern Europe and from middle east war-zone, ending up in the guns of gangs -- these are guns that have NEVER been legal in modern time for normal people, so again, it is NOT about gun laws but culture and criminals doing what they want.

[@mrstrange5733]

THOSE OTHER COUNTRIES ARE SMALLER, you dumb liberal idiot! That libtard argument is flawed. USA IS BIGGER THAN CANADA! And any other liberalized country you cite! ONLY IDIOTS EQUATE USA TO CANADA OR OTHER SMALLER LIBERALIZED COUNTRIES!

[@totalt6600]

Cars are not made to be a weapon. Guns are.

[@1111Tactical]

Tell people in Nice that. Where more people were killed than Las Vegas, in less timer.

[@stellashepherd844]

Total T It’s hard to carry one into a school as well.

[@importcamel03]

+FrankDaTank1218 The number of people intentionally killed by car globally is hilariously dwarfed by the number of people intentionally killed by gun globally. You're pretty shit at arguments. That's factoring in there are tons more cars being used daily than there are guns and that guns are made to kill whereas cars have multiple purposes it was made and intended for.

[@VitalyMack]

How do you figure that cars are not made to be weapons....? Have you ever read a history book or read the news?

[@tycobandit]

VitalyMack what can I do with a car besides kill someone or something??? Ok, what can I do with a gun besides kill someone or something... What’s the difference between the purpose of a appliance and a weapon?

[@TheViewFromUpHere]

How do you enforce background checks? What a disingenuous question. No Background check, NO gun!

[@BamaJayHayes]

The "butwhatabout cars?!" argument is so insulting. Tag & title? Practical hands-on training, written exam, etc.? Health requirements? Insurance requirements? Periodic inspections & renewals?

[@dcpark0509]

Fear is good for business.

[@mrstrange5733]

That’s why neither side wants to solve the problems of immigration or school shootings. Etc. you understanding that should drive you insane when you realize neither side is trying to solve things. It’s irritating me. At least you understand the game.

[@gustavogoikoetxea4524]

Who’s that guy. I feel embarrassed for him.

[@cwell510]

Gustavo Goikoetxea Colion Noir, Lawyer/Gun Activist

[@key0512]

The 510 Zone how is this guy a lawyer? His rhetoric abilities and the way he states arguments and want to prove his points are horrible.

[@plaidpanda]

Ariana Well, Michael Cohen and Guiliani are lawyers too, so...

[@Horny_Fruit_Flies]

Ariana, It is really difficult to argue for a wrong position.

[@notyourtypicalfarah7194]

There are plenty of lawyers who don't hold your political views, so I guess they should all loss their licenses right?

[@marcusaurelis]

Miss when Real Time had more guests on the show other than just two.

[@stewiegriffin12341]

It’s so weird watching this in 2020. Only thing I’m thinking is “wow look how close they’re sitting.”

[@dopamining7621]

That guy trying to hide under his hat is way, way out of his depth with this panel. I would hope he`s humiliated, but with the culture on the right in the US, I doubt it.

[@cwell510]

dopamining Um, yeah...

[@mrstrange5733]

No, every libtard is. Liberals are mindless zombies.

[@joshyoung1804]

"Liberals are mindless zombies." Says the guy who can't form a coherent counter-argument and just repeats the same thing in every comment thread.

[@Zentella6]

Josh Young a coherent argument against what exactly? An opinion? The OP's bias makes them think Colion got owned. The other side will think the opposite. We are tribal creatures. But he doesn't have to use a "coherent argument" for a bias opinion. He can just give his opinion back. It's not like the OP laid a syllogistic argument, and the response was, "you look stupid." Know what I mean? Just trying to help. Cheers.

[@Maidenrules29]

He wasn't out of his depth, he was outnumbered and had multiple people coming at him like an interrogation panel. This is how Maher operates. He will have ONE right-leaning guest and ALL the rest are dems. Its like a feeding frenzy with sharks vs one sea lion.

[@dillonclarke7161]

If Uncle Ruckus 2.0

[@tigerlilly3727]

the convo was so consisntly interrupted by interjections, applause that no point could be explored.

[@NotTellingYou-]

It’s really annoying how every time Colion made a valid point they would talk over him and be rude. It shows which side really wants to have an open discussion.

[@Nerule]

I'm on my phone, watching this... I'm addicted.

[@insertcolorfulmetaphor8520]

Better to enjoy on a big tele, via HBO, than on a phone, via KZbin... :-)

[@undead.rising]

Gotta love how Maher gets on a person who has written a book/done their research on the topic of mental health issues, only for Maher to talk over him and say "That's not true! The Kennedys..."

[@Ladygothii12]

I have to give it to that woman for not backing down.

[@avedic]

This was a really good episode. Part of the reason I like this show is....sometimes it suuucks. And sometimes Bill and company knock it out of the park. It keeps me on my toes. It's more fun and interesting that way. But this one was pretty damn good.