Political frustration in South Africa | Does your political vote count ?

[@DWThe77Percent]

Does your political vote really count? Join the debate and send us your opinion right here.

[@DJPapzin]

No, only economic vote counts.

[@KiRetteCouture]

Edith Kimani has taken DW journalism notches up! This is a great programme.

[@bemibanasko4630]

They should practice THE REAL XENOPHOBIA, by dealing with the caucasians, asians and chinese, effectively sweep them out of South Africa.

[@munesimbamakoni8574]

Such eloquent and coherent thoughts. I love this, I love your views and I'm so disappointed in our leaders.

[@JaceHarnage]

I was blessed to attend a fundraiser in Los Angeles shortly after Mr. Mandela was released from Robbins Island. It was the first year Black South Africans were able to vote. In his speech, Mr. Mandela stated he didn't understand why, after Black Americans had fought so hard for the privilege to vote, many of us had not (and do not) vote. It saddens me that, just like Black Americans, these young people find voting so useless. In America, white people are attempting to turn the clock back by using gerrymandering, closing polling stations, etc., to keep us from voting. We have fought too hard to allow them to do this thing. I vote because I remember my parents marching and having white folks hurl racial slurs, throwing rotten food, etc., at them. I vote because our ancestors were worked to death, beaten, lynched, shot, had dogs turned on them, and I will not dishonor their sacrifice. Don't give up young people. Nothing will change unless you determine to change it! Don't give up...

[@thatlchiponda3368]

Well articulated,Mandela was sellout

[@gibson2675]

He should have been a Marxist like mugabe lol

[@chikarayleigh4534]

@@thatlchiponda3368 sell what out? Where were your grannies when he was selling out?

[@mzee5533]

If you're not voting please don't complain at all.

[@lagosian123]

They are stupid not to vote. And same people are those complaining.

[@kgothatsomoiloa1784]

I agree, Everyone should vote. But what should they do if they still vote but nothing is being done to help them live better lives? Should they vote for corruption, people who can't do their jobs, nepotism?

[@bemibanasko4630]

They should practice THE REAL XENOPHOBIA, by dealing with the caucasians, asians and chinese, effectively sweep them out of South Africa.

[@kgothatsomoiloa1784]

@@bemibanasko4630 Maybe if they had leaders who weren't corrupt and could effectively grow South Africa without those groups you've mentioned, then they could consider kicking them out. But with the current leaders, South Africa would crumble within hours after kicking out those people. Even hours is still overstated, the stock exchange would fall in minute and the rand will become practically useless. And our loving leaders would also steal what they can get from their own people and leave this country. So I disagree, they should find better solutions to clean up their own country. Sometimes Whites, Asians aren't the real enemies and as black people, people with the same skin colour as ours are more dangerous to us because we allow them to ruin us. This is 2019, we've been preaching they must leave since 1994 and they're still here because their presence benefits South Africa. Bad leadership is South Africa's biggest problem... If our leaders were capable, we wouldn't need those particular groups. Our loving leaders are worse because they steal from their own people.

[@appiahallan]

@@lagosian123 if votes counted they would make it illegal

[@johnnyh.9327]

Tks for sharing our ppl view of South Africa....May God Bless them.

[@bemibanasko4630]

They should practice THE REAL XENOPHOBIA, by dealing with the caucasians, asians and chinese, effectively sweep them out of South Africa.

[@johnnyh.9327]

@@bemibanasko4630 Yes it's about time,they should leave at all cost.

[@bemibanasko4630]

WOW! South Africans are really a beautiful and an intelligent race of people. I am just seeing it for the first time. As a Nigerian, I apologise on behalf of my country for everything done. I wish all the Africans in South Africa could join hands and effectively and efficiently sweep away the caucasians, asians and chinese in SA.

[@tetyanaphikolomzi6886]

No one must be swooped out but only the illegal

[@tjfush]

So are you saying you thought the opposite until now?....

[@lashaball790]

That means they is not government in SA ? Why you civilian taking matters in your hands. When you guys fled to go to neighborhood countries they didn't ask you guys papers.

[@greatnilemedjaywarrior3155]

Love you Africa Make Africa Great Again

[@solarintel1727]

Excellent journalism. Very insightful discussion

[@maryglorysalala6216]

Edith, I can't stress enough the amazing job you're doing We live we love

[@danielmabutho9904]

please visit zimbabwe and have a debate on the youth participation on african growth and unity.

[@mnumzanemchunu776]

The childish arguments that has been going on in the Parliament has painted politicians useless. Young generation becomes intelligent at the very early age, we need to look at ourselves and think on their level as we go. They might be young but a lot could be learned from them.

[@peterkariuki2143]

In about 2 years time we are going to vote here in Kenya and I know for a fact that many young people will not vote I included, am leading the group of youths who will not vote in my area we are talking about around 50K people that I lead who will not vote. Because the leaders we elect only care about themselves not the ordinary Kenyans they only care about themselves so we have decided not to vote. I will not vote most of my friends will not vote and almost everyone from my own area will not vote we are just tired

[@michaelrapando1866]

That is true bro it's time for us youth in Kenya to wake up

[@kensimiyu5926]

Then spent five years more complaining,why can't you rise up fulfil your civic duty recall MPs ,MCA's ,governors,senators etc who are not delivering, its provided for in the constitution

[@peterkariuki2143]

ken simiyu it can never happen in Kenya and you know it

[@peterkariuki2143]

SUNset ENTERTAINMENT ARENA we have to stop worshipping these leaders

[@malikking4291]

Nobody is responsible for future but yourself

[@DWThe77Percent]

Thank you for your comment @ Malik King. Would you go to vote then?

[@malikking4291]

@@DWThe77Percent Absolutely and I encourage people to vote. Anyone who doesn't vote shouldn't complain.

[@DWThe77Percent]

@@malikking4291 Indeed!

[@thabangtladi8247]

I can understand why you see things that way 💁‍♂️you k ow nothing about being taken care of by your own government in your own country 🤣😂

[@mohamedjbarrie144]

good initiative from DW Africa i guess you need to visit SIERRA LEONE for there country economic situation

[@DWThe77Percent]

Point taken @Mohamed J Barrie we will see what we can do about it. Meanwhile, your request has been forwarded to our production team. Please tell your friends and network about our channel

[@col.gaddafimalema2349]

DW to visit Sierra Leone for their economic situation what a rubbish who own DW Channel if I may ask

[@derosime]

Yes you have to visit Sierra Leone

[@sahleyosieph9224]

poeople are participating Excellent conversation, I was wondering if this program have access in the national media.

[@benjaminsmith2287]

What the young woman in the gray sweater expresses is the same thing we often express in the USA. I vote to get someone out of office, and sometimes to prevent a party from getting office, rather than for a particular person. Is that they way "democracies" are? Keep fighting South Africa. It took a long time for America to get where it is and frankly, it has a very long way to go. It's not that great. You may do better in the long run.

[@qolspony]

It is the same everywhere! We had the same discussions back in the 1980s when I was a teenager in Harlem. You would think that everyone would have figured it out already. They need young leaders to draw young people. The EFF guy is the only one that made sense to me. They are our future.

[@benjaminsmith2287]

I wonder if this EFF is a viable party or is it more like the Green party or other 3rd party that can't break our Republican/Democrat system. We have independents, but they caucus with one of the two,.

[@qolspony]

@@benjaminsmith2287 Long live Ross Perot. Even at 18, I knew the independent was the way to go, even though I don't always agree with the candidate.

[@khaleeqkaashif8746]

Where do the young generations get their Knowledge of self, Family, and the science of civilization?? I see and hear various levels of gross ignorance being expreesed....

[@dissdad8744]

Congratulations to DW. You have really advanced your Africa section by hiring the Edith Kimani. One correction though: you label certain parties as "far-left" or "center-left" and so on. These labels don't make too much sense, since some of the parties that you would consider "left" do actually manifest traditionalist, sometimes patriarchical and conservative social visions and values. You can not really transpose Central European or Scandinavian political categories on the South African political landscape. Same with the concept of minority vs majority interest: in South Africa you have organisations that claim to represent the intere sts of minorities, but that in fact want to undermine democracy to the detriment of the majority of mostly impoverished South Africans. From a western perspective you would think: an organisation helping and supporting minorities - that must be a good thing. But in the South African context, minority dominance meant the disenfranchiement, exploitation and oppression of the majority by a socio-economically and technologically advantaged minority!

[@jokiep65]

just imagine if those 6 million would have registered and voted! Go people go!

[@kensimiyu5926]

Lack of interest in leadership of the nation is root cause of most problems in SA young men must rise up agitate for their rights and hold govt accountable, revolution is coming from Kenya

[@boseman8227]

It seems those who fought for south Africa independence has failed themselves and has made democracy unattractive to young and intelligent south Africans. Young south African need to get involve in democracy and take over from the current leaders who don't seem to know what they are doing.

[@sakotoful]

Democracy was never meant to work for the average African. It only helps African so called leaders.

[@destinyovbiebo8988]

I love Hendricks; she is so smart and patriotic!

[@DJPapzin]

In 1994 we received political freedom like other African countries. We need ecomomic freedom, that's what people fought for before 94 but people who went there with a feast, came back with jobs and that was the end. We still need to continue the fight like Mandela said.

[@destinyovbiebo8988]

Y’all don’t know y’all local government representatives? Damn, as an African, that’s a big slap on my face! Technologies supposed to enhanced our knowledge, but the youths of today are not as strong as those of the old. Lucky Dube was very intelligent. What are you doing, my brothers?

[@africanwarlord5877]

Honestly the main reason south africans(including myself) didn't vote is cuz our electoral options suck! The ruling party turned us from africas golden child into a sinking ship and the opposition are political opportunists who either have dictator tendencies(eff), high key don't have their own solutions(da) and/or are just are just flat out irrelevant to SA in post apartheid south africa(small parties). If anything we're waiting for new blood.

[@destinyovbiebo8988]

Hendricks has a huge point

[@colleenwerth6350]

What no one here is talking about, is that most municipalities are bankrupt. No money, no service deliveries.

[@KaraboMasemola6408]

The fact that the market is not doing what we wish it would do is no reason to automatically assume that the government would do better.

[@greatnilemedjaywarrior3155]

Let the power be with you young African's y'all have alot going on in Africa Respect Make Africa Great Again

[@lagosian123]

The only sensible intelligent person here, is the EFF guy who spoke.

[@pariscongo666]

Yeah as if we care about the opinions of Nigerians. Eat Egusi and may Omotoso bless you

[@pietrojenkins6901]

@@pariscongo666 hahaha ,you kill me with that.

[@MrRoyck10]

People waiting for government hand out is a trajectory that needs to change, people need to grab their future in their own hands rather than waiting for politicians to change your life. Black South Africans need innovation and creativity, the government only have to provide the economic environment that simulate economic grows in the small to medium businesses. Corruption is a global phenomenon and impedes progress but the key problem across the continent is lack of innovation. That is why the 5 million white South Africans are more productive than the whole of black Africa, SA has so much opportunity it beggars how all these people are poor and docile waiting for government to build house for them, for free. This happens nowhere in the world! Innovate or perish, invent or perish. There is no such thing as a free lunch.

[@bongashushashusha3016]

MA SE POES,,,YOU TALKING RUBBISH MAN.IF THE APARTHEID GOVERNMENT TREATED YOU PEOPLE THE SAME WAY THE ANC GOVERNMENT IS TREATING BLACK PEOPLE YOU WOULD NOT BE HERE BOASTING THAT WHITE PEOPLE ARE THE MOST PRODUCTIVE OF ALL PEOPLE IN AFRICA,,MSUNU KANYOKO

[@mnumzanemchunu776]

I feel the Voting voice has not been shared/sold well to our young generation hence we have many of them not casting their votes. I’ve been voting since ‘94 and have always come across masses of fellow citizens who declined the chance of making a change through casting a vote regarding a change in the Country. Something has to be done in making it shared enough to the young blood, for the future of the Country belongs to them.

[@mucholangs]

The laws should be adjusted to distribute land more equitably. He who owns the land, controls the people.

[@KaraboMasemola6408]

You can't earn what you didn't work for

[@mucholangs]

@@KaraboMasemola6408 You have to explain more.

[@KaraboMasemola6408]

The issue is not land but rather , having land as a black person doesn’t bring money or improve the economy , now if we speak of a country doing well is when people have jobs that obviously comes people opening business , and the state must not be involved in things like minimum wage coz they end up going to China 🇨🇳 for labor and production of product . Land is something I strongly one must earn , for example many people in rural areas have big land but now everyone run to the cities and want to get free land .... this country keeps on asking for things we can’t afford on the expense of other people money. So you don’t need a land to make money , but we first need that financial literacy within the black communities and family orientation where we have both parents raising kids than wanting government to pay for people irresponsibility... I can go on , but the economic state of the black community is bad , we get monies from bank and we spend on booze 🥃 and girls , every year on bonus money we don’t use the funds to open business but rather party throughout December and Jan we go to work angry and say white people owe us ... people must be responsible

[@mucholangs]

@@KaraboMasemola6408 *So you don’t need a land to make money* Ask yourself why you have to be a citizen to own land in most countries. Ask yourself why most land belongs to the queen in the UK. Why do most countries only allow land to be leased, rather than being owned outrightly. Land ownership by itself will make you money. Land is a source of wealth, it impacts on house prices, and it is a source of food. When you own land, that is an asset that keeps on giving. When you own land, you can easily provide for your family, no matter how difficult the economic situation may be. In urban centers, you can lease out land to earn income, without doing any work. Conversely, when you don't own land, you have to lease it, and keep paying for it forever. This keeps you poorer. If you have a little time, read this short article: www.theguardian.com/money/2019/apr/17/who-owns-england-thousand-secret-landowners-author

[@danieltob6362]

Votes don't count in Africa. The better rigger or influencer(mainly in monetary terms) takes the day. Until we have strong institutions, a working system, mindset reorientation

[@lebohanghlapane250]

I did not like the way this issue is being addressed, I feel unsatisfied with the answers. It is like a low of points have been missed, I just cannot pin down what those points are.

[@ragnarandersson2866]

Start your ouwn bissnes..smole bissnes...dont think at your government go feed you....you most work work....no free food.😁👍

[@shanagordon2976]

You're a dick, you know that. I want to work but no jobs. How do u start business when you don't have capital? You are an asshole dickhead.

[@nonozulu]

@@shanagordon2976 he is a white guy who enjoys bashing people on KZbin. Now he is pretending to be someone else. Leave him, we will eat him soon.

[@shanagordon2976]

@@nonozulu ok. No wonder. Thanks anyway. Am african living in America when I saw the comment, it pissed me off. Thanks.

[@abdulgafarmuhiadinmohamed9177]

Bro ...thanks for this comment I appreciate it ...apparently...black south Africans just dont this like you .....

[@fikilehlatshwayo9150]

Those in power are stinky rich and don't care about people on the ground. And corruption is too much, opportunities is given to their friends and family. Government should stop corruption and deliver to the people according, and the land issue should be dealt with as soon as possible.

[@whalefall413]

no such thing as a non corrupt party

[@kolenten]

When people refuse to vote they should not complain because they don’t want change. If you really want change vote and participate to get the change you want. Education is the key in bringing real changes to my South African brothers and sisters. I blame the ANC for not investigating on its people.

[@derosime]

South africa need change of governments. To be honest even though the DA party is majority white mix with black but I think they have a better chance of running south africa. The Anc is corrupt and a change is needed.

[@mfundomncube8210]

Lol a white conservative party will never win an elections in South Africa. It will not happen.

[@derosime]

@@mfundomncube8210 why do you say that my friend. To be honest am African me self, but our leaders are bad. Yes white have commit sins but we need to move on. If DA comes to power and do well for the country we need to appreciate. We have great black leaders but the corrupt politicians at the top don't let them shine. Let's give another party to rule south africa and let's love one another

[@mfundomncube8210]

@@derosime South Africa is a predominantly black population , they are not going to vote for a white dude called john steinhezan noo!! Not because they hate white people but it's simple because they can't relate to the DA politics. It took America how many years to have a so called black presidents?? Why because most people in america are white.🤷 It's not difficult to understand this.

[@derosime]

@@mfundomncube8210 explain here why can't they relate to DA Politics. Let me ask you this question Anc and Eff if they have no real ways to have a fair for all democracy to run a good government and people have been told lies lies upon lies lies. And Let's say DA now come in to the picture and offer real solutions to the problem and show a good governance who would you still go vote for. Anc that run the country with corruption or EFf with there extreme hate or the DA whom most blacks might feel they will bring fear into the country and tackle corruptions and also gang violence. Who would you vote for?

[@mfundomncube8210]

@@derosime all parties are against corruption, that's not the selling point . Land and wealth redistribution is a hot topic in our country today. The DA doesn't have a solution for these things. Yes they promise good governence, free markets , free trade etc but those are not top selling points for majority of voters. It comes to no suprise how the EFF is growing like because they speak things people they want to hear and all of them are black like them. I don't expect you to understand this though.

[@commonman80]

What These Young People Need To Understand Is.. To NOT VOTE? Is Voting FOR The People And Parties THAT DO NOT REPRESENT THEM.. In Democracy? Parties JUST LOVE For People To NOT VOTE.. Because It Assures A Sure Win During The Election Cycle That Their Party Will Win... Which Is Why EVERY VOTE COUNTS.. And, Which Is Why Every NON VOTERS NON VOTE COUNTS FOR THE WINNING PARTY That Is Running For Office... Example: If There Are 10 Voters. The People Running For Office Want To Get As Many Of Those 10 Voters Votes As Possible.. However.. Out Of Those 10 Voters? Only 4 Voters Actually Vote.. And, The Other 6 Voters DO NOT VOTE.. The People Running For Office Will Cater To The 4 Voters. Because Those Are The Voters That Will Put Them In Office.. Leaving The 6 Remaining NON VOTERS OUT OF THE PICTURE.. But What The 6 Non Voters DO NOT REALIZE IS? By Not Voting.. They Just Put Their Futures In The Hands Of The 4 People WHO DID VOTE... But? The Politicians Aren't Going To Cater To THE NON VOTERS.. Why You Ask? Because They DO NOT HAVE TO.. That's Why.. The Politicians Only Have To Cater To The 4 People THAT DID VOTE.. Because The Politicians KNOW, The Non Voters Aren't Going To Vote To Put Them In Office.. In Fact The Politicians KNOW.. The Non Voters Aren't Going To Do Anything TO VOTE THEM OUT OF OFFICE EITHER.. So The NON VOTER'S NEEDS? Go Unmet... Which Is Why THOSE WHO DO NOT VOTE? Are Helping To Put People Into Office That ((WILL NOT FORE FILL NEEDS)).. Because? The Politicians Once In Office Don't Have To.. They Only Have To For Fill The Needs Of Those Who Actually Vote... Because The People Who ACTUALLY VOTE? Are The Only People Who Will Keep Them In Office...

[@ishn7343]

Africa is a sad story, corruption is the cause of all the problems in Africa.

[@destinyovbiebo8988]

You mean, y’all didn’t vote? But you’re criticizing the government.

[@walterhighwood3209]

Wow, South Africa looks so cold 🐧😮. Sorry it has nothing to do with the topic, I was just surprised.

[@tetyanaphikolomzi6886]

South African weather changes 4 times a day

[@pelomk9022]

Why are you suprised that an African country experiences cold weather?

[@sloeberdoet]

People also have to realize that there aren't enough jobs for all the people.

[@kgothatsomoiloa1784]

That's true however and we have to be realistic, even places like America and Europe still have poverty although not as severe. However the problem comes when the unemployment rate is 27% and still increasing with no way or hope of ever decreasing... European countries on average has about an unemployment rate of about 1-10 while we're at 27%. I recently read an article where they mentioned Portugal's unemployment rate reached 17% but it was extremely unacceptable and too high by "European standards". Not saying SA is Europe or will be comparable to Europe in the near future. But one can notice the problem here. South Africa is abit privileged as a country, but for the poor black South African, there is no difference between them than poor people living in Zimbabwe, for example. At this point, SA needs a miracle.

[@l.b.2979]

People in Africa have to have les children than

[@kgothatsomoiloa1784]

@@l.b.2979 China has a huge population and its doing relatively better than most countries, Africa has the youngest population on earth. If used correctly, they could turn it around and use their large population to their benefit like China... So I don't blame population here, simply an incompetent government focused on race and corruption than serious issues. I'm not about race, I sympathize with every poor black/white person because they all facing the same issues. I want a better world for everyone, not my race.

[@l.b.2979]

@@kgothatsomoiloa1784 Still, too much people means you need to create a lot of jobs for them; as for China they still have one child policy (not that strict any more) and try to reduce population numbers and they are doing better also because they produce for the whole world and take our jobs away from us and from Africans too

[@kgothatsomoiloa1784]

@@l.b.2979 I agree with you, China for a long time has been the go to for cheap labor, but the Era of their double digits is coming up and it won't be the fastest growing economy any longer, that's why they are expanding and are targeting Africa especially. The world is staring at Africa after China for cheap labour.. And China was at one point poorest of the poor, with Hong Kong being its richest city. But now the city of Shenzhen outperforms Hong Kong drastically... Basically my point is, I agree with you that Africa needs a population control policy, but Africa is continent also and not a country which makes its issues unique and complicated. It's a mess of complex rich economies like Nigeria and South Africa, and ones like Zimbabwe and Lesotho. The African culture still views many children as a sign of wealth and t's wrong, I personally have a problem with SASSA grants because I feel like people especially young children are misusing them and having children only for the sake of a mere grant. This makes seem like it's alright to demand money from the government and not work for your own life. We're simply fighting poverty with poverty. I once got into an argument with people, I jokingly said we need to give a white president a chance to see how they'll do, and provided I'm black African. But I got Attacked for simply saying this. People usually expect black people to be racist I don't know why.

[@chikarayleigh4534]

Without voting you have no chance. Imagine that Mandela and others gave up the fight because they were tired, then apartheid would've persisted till today. EFF is the answer.

[@alhagiesabally2354]

I really like the way you talk in d interview

[@yerasmus4025]

Their feet run after evil, and they rush to shed innocent blood. Their thoughts are sinful thoughts; ruin and wretchedness are in their paths. They have not known the path of peace, and there is no justice in their ways. They have made their roads crooked; no one who walks on them will know peace. Therefore justice is far from us, and righteousness does not reach us. We hope for light, but there is darkness; for brightness, but we live in the night. We grope along a wall like the blind; we grope like those without eyes. We stumble at noon as though it were twilight; we are like the dead among those who are healthy. We all growl like bears and moan like doves. We hope for justice, but there is none; for salvation, but it is far from us. Isaiah 59:7‭-‬11 HCSB

[@DJPapzin]

The last time we united as the people of South Africa, apartheid was defeated. ANC has no need to serve SA because black people will vote with their emotions. Would you do anything to improve your people's lives if no one ever holds you accountable if you don't achieve? As much as I love my people, I'd also loot if allowed to do so

[@memyself4ever1]

They need to get their shit together by eliminating xenophobia otherwise South Africa will remain in the state it is in.

[@bemibanasko4630]

They should practice THE REAL XENOPHOBIA, by dealing with the caucasians, asians and chinese, effectively sweep them out of South Africa.

[@quirkysoul7702]

Illegal immigration in SA is a huge problem, unspoken truth in Africa.

[@sonenibeatricemhlongo7953]

Hhayi bo!!!!!!

[@veraaddoyobo8482]

I think most black South Africans have to understand that unlike Zimbabweans who fought for their land back, South Africa resources is still under the hands of the white minorities, and the little bit of what is left is what the ANC leaders feels is theirs to share among themselves

[@KaraboMasemola6408]

Like Likes: 138 It is amazing that people who think we cannot afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, and medication somehow think that we can afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, medication and a government bureaucracy to administer it.

[@greatnilemedjaywarrior3155]

I Think We All Feel that Way about Votes We African Americans Most of Us Feel Same Way This The Governments But as The people have the Power they Need our Vote and Our Money so Just Use That Against them if you don't see any Changes African's all around the World Really No Matter were u at this happens to everyone not just In Africa

[@016mzanzibissaka9]

Black vetarien reciting speeches, no plan no idea no dream Jus power lol The reason ANC keeps winning

[@derosime]

Agreed

[@khaleeqkaashif8746]

Re:MP Remarks:We fail when we deviate from the Wisdom ofOur Ancestral Roots....

[@faheemfaquir1024]

I roll with the EFF

[@vanessameintjes9896]

#LiberateSA

[@muriithimwaniki5718]

This is happening in Kenya now The problem is that S.A level of argument is far much informed compared to Kenyans Pan Africanacity of far off a dream

[@DJPapzin]

Your vote doesn't count! I'm speaking as a black South African. A vote goes with money. How can a white entity sponsor a black party to push a black agenda which goes against the white entity? The money that pays is the one that rules, not your vote. As black people, we need to pool our money together and elect a lady for ourselves that will fight for our agenda. If we sponsor him, he will never have a reason to sell us out. As long as we depend on "sponsors" nothing will ever change. Our agenda: Nationalization by a party that's for the majority, equality is the goal, not oppression.

[@bulelanibotman]

Indeed SA is in some political frustration especially with the youth, 29% unemployment rate, the majority still still living in poverty like it doesn't make sense. What is the use of voting if the ruling party is the most corrupt thing in this nation, billions of rands being devoured by elites "our black leaders, lol" & 99% of the members are old like 60 years+, like what is an old man doing in parliament? & let me remind your'll the president is responsible for the killings of our fathers in Marikana. What is the use of voting when the 2 most biggest opposition parties are just spreading propaganda? One, claims is for the majority & youth while it resorts to mostly violence in parliament, while its leader comes from the the ruling party lol whilst the other party is just a plain right minority party which was created by a person who was active in the suppression of the majority & its leader is being used to lure in the majority, what a sell-out so in conclusion there is no use. Edit: Came back after 3 years to watch this video & I have to say my initial comment was made out of anger and lack of knowledge. I have grown and sought after some knowledge about SA politics. I have to say I am foremost with Precious on this video, I love her thinking and her points that she put forth in this discussion. I also hope that the people who were in this discussion also sought after some knowledge and new perspective's. What I want to say is that the only thing that can change SA is if we go out in numbers and vote. I know a lot will iterate this question of "Who do we vote for?" and I say that solely lies with you. Go and do research about registered parties and look for the one that line up with your values and beliefs, look at their track record. Don't be swayed to vote with the masses because that's how the ANC came into being, because everyone wanted to vote for the same party. The onus is with you, the youth. Precious said, when she last voted she went with a strategy of voting against the ruling party in her province and nationally also because there was no party that has yet to convince her, to which I say I also agree with her. It is also these party's that cause their own downfall, they just can't campaign. Well, I just wish that people register to vote and come out in numbers if they want to see change, otherwise they will continue to face these hardships and blame government, to which I say true but also blame yourself for not voting it out!

[@kgothatsomoiloa1784]

That's one of my biggest problem with South Africa, look at the parliament especially. One can clearly see the extreme lack of youth in the place. Not that it's a huge problem having large numbers of older people...But we could easily overlook it if they didn't specialize in extreme corruption. Another biggest issue is politicians only knowing you when it's election time, I personally come from the Free State province and I'm a university student. Where I come from, we haven't had water for more than 2 years. Recently on June, every municipality in Free State was accused of corruption. EVERY SINGLE ONE....The ruling party is only ruling the developed South Africa.. The undeveloped parts of SA don't exist to them, they only exist when they want votes... The ruling party has also creatd this persona for people. That if you don't vote ANC, Apartheid will come back.

[@AbelMalemane]

Social media is too English

[@sloeberdoet]

People who still think politicians are there for the good of the ordinary people are either naive or extremely stupid. I hope the first. Being in politics is first to take care of yourself and maybe then you're doing a little bit for the people so next time they vote again for you to keep your seat warm and eventually also for your children.

[@khaleeqkaashif8746]

They speak very strongly from the influence of colonialist/white supremacists ideology/narratives...Where is the sense of connectivity to Indigenous, Ancestral Root Knowledge???

[@bongashushashusha3016]

IM STRUGGLING TO GET THE GIST OF YOUR CONCERN HERE REALLY,,

[@khaleeqkaashif8746]

@@bongashushashusha3016 either We are conscious of Our Ancestoral Roots and connect Spiritually with Our Roots or We are "lost in the sauce" and therefore parrot enemy narratives without truly knowing....

[@destinyovbiebo8988]

The women seem more politically oriented.

[@angryblackman857]

EFF VIVA.

[@bemibanasko4630]

Sending Divine Awakening, Healing Energy to the indigenous South Africans.

[@uhurumofokeng4963]

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[@speakup18]

U don't vote ❎ and think xenophobia is the answer? # no to hate.. 😒

[@sonenibeatricemhlongo7953]

Xenophobia is wrong. Leave them it their country.

[@sinnehsesay9452]

SEE AFRICA STORY IS JUST THE SAME PEOPLE CRY FOR THE SAME ISSUES AND THERE IS NO SOLUTION THE SYSTEM JUST FIX UP

[@rodneycook8758]

NO, MY VOTE DOEN' COUNT, I DO NOT VOTE, VOTING IS FOR SHEEPLES AND DREAMERS WHO ARE TOO LAZY TO SEE TO MATERS ON THEIR OWN: FAITH HOLDERS HOPING THINGS WILL GET BETTER BY VOTING. VOTING IS DESIGNED TO CARRY SHIT OVER TO ANOTHER TIME PERIOD WITH THE SAME ISSUS EVER-PRESENT,

[@saranhuleigo5861]

Black SA youths the only man I think can deliver is mr malema

[@mzee5533]

He'll make SA to be like Zimbabwe within a period of 5yrs believe me mate. His hatred and arrogance will never bring anything good to eMzansi bro.

[@speakup18]

@@mzee5533 but xenophobia can bring it right?

[@saranhuleigo5861]

@@mzee5533 that's your opinion

[@mzee5533]

@@saranhuleigo5861 ofcourse it is my opinion

[@sizwemavundla9599]

Malema is a thug... N can't be trusted with the destiny of our country...

[@TOMM796]

~ ~ NICE VIDEO...BUT HOW COME THE --0--0 SOUTH AFRICAN WOMEN ARE LIGHT J SKIN...AND THE MEN ARE DARK SKIN \/

[@tiehoteele874]

South Africa have got many shades of brown , etc that's why they call this country a Rainbow nation. You sound like you have a brain of a 4 yr old child

[@sakotoful]

I wish Ghana had a leader like Malema. Salute my EFF brothers and sisters.

[@destinyovbiebo8988]

Precious has a point, too. It seems the women are more smarter than the men. Pardon me!