Politics & Power: A Conversation with Rahm Emanuel (Episode

[@stevedykstra7360]

I've listened to everything sam has posted, this guy doesn't understand how a conversation works, I can't finish this one.

[@mikewarren3597]

Same, Rahm showed really bad conversational skills

[@debbiestanton959]

trump is a GENIUS. There, I fixed it for you.

[@mdgprogrammer]

Rahm said a lot and answered very little. It isn't clear that this discussion was worth releasing.

[@جمهوریبییخدایاندوست]

Iranian people mostly support Israel in its war to save enlightenment values and secular liberal democracies everywhere against the mental diseases on Islam, fascism, and marxism. As a paying subscriber I ask that you please invite Reza Pahlavi or Armin Navabi to discuss these issues.

[@twntwrs]

That sort of describes most if not all "Making Sense" podcasts for a long time now.

[@jacqueline716]

Sam had Masih Alinejad on his podcast not too long ago.

[@zentofustudrascal]

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[@BIGGIEsmalls13]

Exactly.

[@justgivemethetruth]

I've listened to this twice now. An excellent conversation. Very nice to hear stuff like this.

[@mikewarren3597]

This is my first time hearing Rahm Emanuel, why is he so eager to cut Sam off all the time, then ramble on about nothing? Wtf is up with people like this?

[@جمهوریبییخدایاندوست]

Iranian people mostly support Israel in its war to save enlightenment values and secular liberal democracies everywhere against the mental diseases on Islam, fascism, and marxism. As a paying subscriber I ask that you please invite Reza Pahlavi or Armin Navabi to discuss these issues.

[@Lord_Nordan]

I think it was pretty clear that as an official ambassador, there were just things that he felt would be inappropriate to talk about, which is why he often deflected or spoke in generalities.

[@rowand2405]

He’s a U.S. Ambassador bound by the Hatch Act. Not a perfect recipe for full partisan candour.

[@maisboyfriend]

Seemed to me they both were rather adept at interrupting each other. Sam lately has had this annoying tick of not letting his guest finish a thought. He just interrupts as though he’s realigning the convo when really he’s derailing what was an attempted coherent thought.

[@aliensintheloft]

Yuval Noah Harari was the same; almost incapable of letting Sam finish his points.

[@dmr6390]

This was awful. Rahm wouldn’t even let Sam finish his questions. Total partisan hack

[@randyevermore9323]

The problem is Sam's "questions," which are too often just a rambling speech ending with the question mark. You'd think Sam would have heard enough of questions like that during the audience-member Q&As that followed his public appearances.

[@jeremykoloski]

Emanuel’s points at the end were incredibly frustrating. He equates Israel defeating Hamas and Hezbollah in defensive wars with a “might is right” policy and deflects all of Harris’ points about the lack of a viable peace partner. While I agree that Israel’s ‘day after plan’ will ultimately define the success or futility of the war, Emanuel seems to prefer quoting cliches about diplomacy to seriously engaging with the depressing details of the situation. I do think Harris did a pretty good job pushing back, especially with how timid he’s been on recent podcasts.

[@davidvenegas6401]

Israel took hostages first. Did they talk about that?? Actually worse than hostage taking. Israel does indefinite detention without charge or trail. At least with hostages there's a negotiation and path to freedom. Not with the hostages Israel took first, took more of, and treats worse.

[@jeremykoloski]

@@davidvenegas6401 If we’re going to define hostages that broadly, we should also lament the fact that Ted Bundy was taken hostage by America after he was caught. Or, more to the point, the fact that Israel took Sinwar hostage before releasing him and over 1000 other prisoners (you would say hostages) for one Israeli soldier.

[@Lyndadeve1376-_xyz]

@@davidvenegas6401you are delusional

[@davidvenegas6401]

@@jeremykoloski As stated. If it's not hostages it's only because it's worse than hostages. No reason, trial, or charge. So whatever reason you have in your head that would justify it is exactly that, in your head. Made up. Even Israel didn't do you the favor of trumping up charges so you could at least say those charges. No charges or reason so no it's not justified because there literally is no reason given at all. And the treatment is worse. And the quantity is higher that's why Israel has more to trade over in exchange. In every way Israel is worse. Anything bad you want to say about Israels enemies, you will find Israel is worse. Doing it more. Doing it worse. And did it first

[@paddydiddles4415]

@@davidvenegas6401sounds like you’ve got a bad case of Israel Derangement Syndrome, just a sponge brain for soaking up Hamas type propaganda - sad

[@flohunter1402]

Please let each other finish a sentence.

[@MrFrogman311]

Long time listener. Rahm Emanuel is as crooked as they come. Really weird guest…

[@synthesizerneil]

@@MrFrogman311 remember that to elites and establishment hacks like Sam, corruption is only bad when Republicans do it.

[@tcorourke2007]

Word.

[@alanledzep1967]

TOTALLY

[@dailygrindism]

care to elaborate?

[@lucasd8917]

100%

[@winkingfox7125]

I imagine this went down kind of by chance. Like Sam was in Japan and someone mentioned you know Rahm Emanuel is the ambassador you can just go in an have a chat with him. And Sam thought oh maybe that could be an interesting conversation. Of course it was a dud , can’t win em all .

[@Jack-gl2xw]

Am I the only one who enjoyed this episode? I liked Emanuel's personality and found it funny. I think he did his best answering the questions given the Hatch Act and the law became a bit throughout the episode. Its obvious Emanuel is super knowledgable and it was nice to hear his POV. Sure he couldve interrupted less, but I found the new dynamic entertaining since usually his answers were interesting

[@Catolicodeguerra]

So many spam comments and alt accounts Sam Harris you went crazy during COVID what happened to all the bodies in the streets ? You’re a sick man and no one with a brain watches you and we are going to check your history and come back with evidence your time is soon

[@healthwithmarcus]

I'm so thirsty for intellectual dialogue that whatever imperfections come along with it are fine with me.

[@scottt725]

I think almost yes. Rahm is awful and unlistenable. Yet… there’s you.

[@yogaasana6019]

@@scottt725 Perhaps that is Rahm chiming in on his anonymous account...

[@Cars_HW2]

This was a perfectly fine episode. Seems like most of Sam’s audience (on YT at least) is very sensitive.

[@ngalawena]

Rahm has a unique talent: he can sit down with one of the brightest minds of our time-the modern Socrates-and somehow turn the conversation into a string of buzzwords and platitudes. I’ve never seen a guest make a Sam Harris podcast feel so superficial!

[@objectiveviewer3844]

Sam is not the Socrates of our Era. Not disagreeing with your point but about Rahm. Sam's biases and political views have destroyed his capability to be that great. Really sad knowing how smart, thoughtful and articulate he is.

[@ngalawena]

@@objectiveviewer3844 I bet folks said the same for Socrates

[@dreamsofamutenevvim]

“our time”: year 5785 venue Golan Heights 😂

[@WhattheFwouldIknow]

lol. modern socrates

[@yogaasana6019]

You are wrong about one thing: that type of talent isn't unique.

[@BreakOutTheCrazy]

The second part of this chat was almost unbearable. VERY hard to listen to. Very rude guest.

[@جمهوریبییخدایاندوست]

Iranian people mostly support Israel in its war to save enlightenment values and secular liberal democracies everywhere against the mental diseases on Islam, fascism, and marxism. As a paying subscriber I ask that you please invite Reza Pahlavi or Armin Navabi to discuss these issues.

[@godisbollocks]

​@@جمهوریبییخدایاندوست Could you take your copy-and-paste OCD somewhere else?

[@SuspendedLogic]

Saying “the loud voices just intimidated all of us into silence” isn’t the flex he thinks it is. Being cowardly isn’t a get out of jail free card.

[@KenAttenborough-d6y]

100%

[@patrickhassing120]

Yep. It’s a weird argument - especially considering basically all authoritarian governments in the 20th century intimidated a majority into the will of a minority.

[@Luddendorf]

What is with these guests who interrupt Sam so frequently? Both Emanuel and Harari don't allow Sam to finish his question or statement before rudely talking over him.

[@conbrio27]

They're egomaniacs

[@randyevermore9323]

Sam's "questions" are too often just rambling speeches. I'm always relieved when the interviewee mercifully ends one of his rants.

[@abstractdaddy1384]

​@@randyevermore9323 Haha I love Sam but I know what you mean.

[@sandp9853]

This is truly unbearable. By far the worst guest he's had. Said a lot but ultimately conveyed nothing.

[@randyevermore9323]

Nah, he said some interesting things about the need to show strength, as well as contrition, when running for the presidency. He also had some interesting things to say about Japan, where I live, and its relationship with the U.S.

[@auxiliaryboxes]

​​@@randyevermore9323Are you this guy's biggest fan? You've replied to like every comment defending this guy's egomania and saying Sam is too rambly lol.

[@randyevermore9323]

@@auxiliaryboxes So what's your point?

[@keithkaosHarv]

Who is this guest, he’s a rambling bore.

[@J.R.Y.]

He's definitely an over-talker.

[@twntwrs]

Not the only thing he has in common with Sam's guests for a while now.

[@shrimpie202]

😂

[@J.R.Y.]

Japan is AMAZING. Enjoy your trip Sam.

[@swimbait1]

This was an unusual discussion for Sam. It was clear Sam wanted to hang onto the idea that the Democrats have gone way too far left in some cases, and he wouldn’t let go of that part of the discussion. I agree with the guest that those making these claims in the Democratic Party are very small minority and it’s something we shouldn’t be too concerned with

[@goodvibes-gy3jn]

God dammit sam! I thought you had made the switch to video! 😠

[@itslightanddark]

Thanks, Sam.

[@vicp7124]

Love his discussion of Japanese. Ultimate example of land with closed borders, uniform culture and law-abiding culture. Any leader or potential leader of the United States that would advocate such a nation for us would be an autocrat.

[@JonHanzen]

Japonism has a community-orientation.

[@Impressive__]

Sam Harris and Sam Hyde need to have an episode

[@itsallgoodman4108]

The battle would be legendary

[@primalchaos7]

This is the best suggestion I've ever seen from Sam's big brained audience.

[@dcolt45]

Hey, wise guy, what's the big idea? Where's the ice cream in this joint?

[@John_Doe742]

I don’t think harris could handle Hyde’s alpha energy

[@polymathlevel8]

Don't have time to listen to this. But have always like Emanuel.

[@gravityhorse4781]

This was a good one

[@RS-uh7rz]

Emanuel was rude and unresponsive to well-posed questions. He's not a good person to interview.

[@dlmsarge8329]

Maybe not a good person in general.

[@BarrySometimes]

I think Sam should take a two or possibly a three week long road trip with Hank Schyma. Chase some tornados, talk about deeper dynamics, rather than discuss the shallow consequences of the deeper dynamics as observed in shallow politics. Pick up a snake, photograph lightning.

[@JonHanzen]

What could one say in support of this episode that doesn't fly in the face of the comments here as a spectrum for a consensus? I liked Rahm's presence with a firm handle on politics. Sam mentioned at the beginning that he enjoyed the conversation. Nuanced polarized plurality in bipartisanship, such as the issue with Israel, may not be as easy to convey one's point casually as one might suppose. Sam vibes well with his Jewish guests. Why is there so much pushback here about it?

[@yogaasana6019]

Sam was seriously jet-lagged. We can forgive this substandard conversation for that reason. However, we don't have to forgive him for posting it. I'm willing to bet he didn't sit down and listen to it before uploading.

[@JonHanzen]

@@yogaasana6019 whatever

[@Bryanbkk]

Enjoyed, but lost a bit of respect for Rahm at 35:54 . A few notches shy of a true Statesman, but very well spoken guy.

[@conbrio27]

Imagine being an ambassador and not knowing how to even listen during a conversation. And to Japan, no less, where every school kid knows the value of "aizuchi".

[@MeeseManyMoose]

Rahm Emanuel might just be the very worst guest ever on Sam's show.

[@KenAttenborough-d6y]

Destiny was pretty shit.

[@MeeseManyMoose]

@@KenAttenborough-d6y Destiny was pretty bad indeed, but I didn't really feel like Destiny was arguing in bad faith. Rahm on the other hand...

[@TimDeadmenVP]

Rory was worse.

[@KenAttenborough-d6y]

@@TimDeadmenVP True. Rory was awful.

[@KenAttenborough-d6y]

@@MeeseManyMoose You're probably right.

[@randyevermore9323]

As someone who has lived in Japan for more than 15 years, I found it refreshing to hear Emanuel note how much freer Japanese children are than American children. American friends who have visited me here are invariably shocked to see 5- and 6-year-olds walking and riding the trains to school by themselves. American children have become captives of fear.

[@جمهوریبییخدایاندوست]

Iranian people mostly support Israel in its war to save enlightenment values and secular liberal democracies everywhere against the mental viruses of Islam, fascism, and marxism. As a paying subscriber I ask that you please invite Reza Pahlavi or Armin Navabi to discuss these issues.

[@youngidealist]

This is certainly living in a false sense of reality. Who informs you about world issues and political philosophies?

[@1984isnotamanual]

I wish we, America, would help you guys liberate your country so you can hold a real election and get your country back. You guys are in my thoughts a lot!

[@youngidealist]

@@1984isnotamanual Best to have the UN lead such an effort. The US government has too many of its own corruption issues to trust us going to war for anything without a third party to restrain most of it. We've done great with real UN collaboration.

[@youngidealist]

@@1984isnotamanual Not to mention, the US doesn't have an actual democracy. Every ballot without a randomized order of candidates and with a winner take all method and lacking an option to abstain is a rigged ballot. The Electoral College is also a rigging of our elections. Look up alternative voting. CGP Grey's videos on voting systems explains it well.

[@youngidealist]

​​@@1984isnotamanualSeems like my post was auto deleted just for replying through notifications. YT is such censoring trash... anyway, what I said was...: This would be best handled by the UN. The US has too many corrupt factors trying to profit off of war. Our government cannot be trusted. Not to mention, the US is not a democracy. Every election in almost every district is heavily rigged with enforced spoiler effect by the winner-take-all method, Every state is rigged with the electiral college for good measure, and no states or districts that I know of randomize the order of the candidates, which is known to give as much as a 7% boost to the candidate on top. If you're gonna respect democracy, then know what democracy truly is. Check out CGP Greys videos on electoral systems for an idea of how it's rigged to give us nothing but trash candidates for corruption. Lesser evil every cycle and not one point about alternative voting. Remove the plank from your own eye, as it were. Not that Christians would ever care to actually learn something of value from their scripture.

[@Bronco541]

Yep i was right. Sams comment section has become mostly trolling. I enjoyed the episode, and i continue to enjoy Sams podcast.

[@XenialShotYT]

Because you enjoyed it, everyone else is a troll?

[@alexm2889]

Love the podcast, couldn't stand this episode. Emanuel was really grating.

[@wynandbecker8489]

For once I don't mind missing the second half at least

[@MrDanthemaniam]

Those shrill voices were not silenced by intimidation or we'd heard of that in fact, that is what is being called for and we're not getting, it is unlikely that they are quiet simply because they are being ignored. I wonder if they are sitting quietly on the sidelines and waiting because they've been offered something to keep quiet for the time being. Much in the same way a donor is offered an ambassadorship.

[@FraserJohnstone1]

The constant interrupting is so infuriating….. rarely was an interruption followed by a satisfying answer! Unfortunately, this was an uninteresting interview…..

[@jaarneal]

This was one of the best episodes in a while. It's interesting to learn how a Democratic Party "insider" in an official (but still distant-from-Washington) role thinks about a lot of this stuff. Obviously, he had to be circumspect on a lot of questions not just because of the Hatch Act but because he can't say things that stray too far from US policy (as this could have implications for foreign relations). But Sam showed really strong interviewing skills and managed to get Emanuel to go beyond party boilerplate. It got a bit adversarial at times 1. because of official limitations and 2. because Emanuel obviously has a different perspective from Sam, but the tone of the conversation was still friendly and casual. The highlight was probably when Sam got Emanuel to effectively acknowledge that Kamala Harris needed to show strength by distancing herself from her 2020 extremes.

[@drudiogenes8544]

It's super refreshing to see a comment about what was said in the conversation as opposed to what wasn't said. Thank you.

[@jaarneal]

@@drudiogenes8544 Yeah, I'm a bit... unimpressed with what some others have to say on it. He's literally the US ambassador to Japan... he's not going to be able to forcefully "call out" anyone. But this is a guy who probably has had a chat or two with people like Biden, K. Harris, and Obama on these exact issues. And that's what I think makes it fascinating. Notice how his opinion on the "capture of institutions" differs from Sam's. Sam holds (oversimplifying here) that places like the NYT had a lot of their sense gutted and replaced with leftist ideologues, while Emanuel pretty clearly thinks that intimidation from leftist ideologues, and not true believers among the ranks, was chiefly responsible for those changes. And considering how many of these figures Emanuel knows personally (probably far more than even Sam), that's an interesting thing to hear. And it's not just academic. The reason Sam is only somewhat optimistic about the "ideological swing back to the center" is because he's concerned about the power of those true believers. Emanuel appears to agree that the pendulum swung too far to the left, but is more optimistic: he believes the pendulum hasn't "swung" back to the center, but "is swinging" back, probably *because* he knows these institutions were never really "captured" in the way Sam thinks, or "as captured" as Sam thinks... and so he thinks they're still on their way to a better place. He was also pretty articulate about the role of alliances in containing China, and how Trump would undermine those. He didn't say anything new, but he's good at "making the case" succinctly.

[@drudiogenes8544]

@@jaarneal Interesting thoughts and fair summarizations to take away from the conversation... I don't know too much about Emanuel but my impression of him is that his perspective on things is firmly grounded in his optimism in overcoming some of the discussed issues, which is understandable, given the roles he has played in shaping policy. He is also someone who is committed to short-term, pragmatic goals that enhance security and peace, which are more easily attainable than ideological paradigm shifts. All in all, I would say that a remarkable difference I see between Sam and Rahm is that the perspective of the former is predominantly shaped by the philosophy and logic that addresses core issues with the state of things; whereas the perspective of the latter is predominantly shaped by a deep conviction to policy initiatives that can lead to incremental improvements in the overall state of things.

[@shrimpie202]

You have got to be kidding Sam did nothing of the sort . Rahm bullshitted him and Sam did not grasp how deep into a machine he was being dragged…. How can Sam interview someone like Rahm as though he were an ordinary politician

[@shrimpie202]

Strength? What a farce

[@SuspendedLogic]

I hope Sam starts to realize how bad our elites truly are while editing this trainwreck.

[@alexcipriani6003]

I was thinking to sit this one out but listening to some of democratic pundits talk in the last couple of days makes me want to hold my nose and go with DJT .. this is one of those talks. Rahm doesn’t get it that the gasliting coming from the Democratic Party is just one of the major behavioral issue across the board. The PMC twisting of facts, up is down and down is up, don’t admit fault just project strength, fake it till you make it … this is HR behavior and everyone hates HR

[@KenAttenborough-d6y]

Yep. That was garbage politicking

[@sb.6606]

And objectively JDV won that debate and rahm thinks Walz’s response about being a knucklehead is somehow refreshing? He’s so insulated and high on his own farts. Politicians suck to interview and I have no idea why Sam thought this would be a good interview.

[@twntwrs]

​@@sb.6606Sam's podcasts have been all about what keeps him warm, comfy and cozy in his Overton window echo chamber. That's why he thought this would be a good interview. He wasn't entirely wrong.

[@planettelex-g9j]

But the gaslight Ming coming from the Republican Party and DJT is ok? That’s pretty wild.

[@cdavidlake2]

Rahm Emanuel? Really, Sam? Not making much sense.

[@krisstapleton196]

Next on making sense pod Rod Blagojevich.

[@laplaptop]

Sam's podcast recently has become sort of an echo chamber... I used to come to Sam for clarity when it comes to political issues as he used to bring on guests with opposing viewpoints. This is not the case anymore.

[@samdg1234]

*"I used to come to Sam for clarity when it comes to political issues ..."* Sam is almost the best on the Israel thing. He is beyond the most TDS-infected elite I'm aware of. It has become so bad that he now regularly contradicts himself. It is him and persons like him that give us populism.

[@JamesWitte]

@@samdg1234 Maybe he has placed bets on being the scholar of his time for standing against the next Hitler. Legacy goals. Whatever it is, Sam seems bought into defending authoritarian corruption in the hopes of being seen in that light.... He might also be trying to buy points in the scientific community after being so radical on other issues for a long time. I cant see how he doesnt understand that the corruption is what allows Islamism to spread in order to project against Russia. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aGnUfKWNfLmKjrc kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqGaeaifZ7SsgM0si=YL-OQiq81Al-qf0X Some good explanations of that fact in this.

[@Agtsmirnoff]

There’s no reason to bring on unhinged pro-jihadist guest to spew a bunch of fake talking points and hatred

[@Agtsmirnoff]

@@samdg1234 Sam basically supports half of what Trump made popular, but he just can’t give him credit because he’s a big mean man lol

[@twntwrs]

Only recently? Sam has long laboured under the misapprehension that his stellar and deservedly recognized work on religion, free will and the moral landscape automatically conveys authority on his Overton window limited dabblings in politics.

[@annaskoullos9618]

As a Chicagoan, I knew before pressing play that this interview would offer little substance. Rahm’s legacy will be defined by his school closures.

[@davidperezbabich]

Wow what a poor interview subject Hope he reads these comments

[@jrrustad]

great conversation!

[@BIGGIEsmalls13]

Immensely frustrating 'conversation' where diplomacy turns into hot air.

[@Toni-w3n]

Why doesn't America impose its rule and policy on the whole world and protect us from evil?

[@N0RZC]

The goverment in the US could really use a slash like Twitter. Its extremely inefficient in so many ways.

[@paulburgess5111]

Emanuel, “ I know what you want but I keep trying to steer you…” Yes you do

[@PaulMathias1]

That was difficult to get through.

[@politicorey8817]

Such a strange reaction to this episode. Emanuel is obviously not a podcast regular so doesn't follow the standard decorum of not starting to speak before his interlocutor finishes their sentence but aside from that he's clearly very learned about geopolitics and was honest with his perspectives which often disagreed with Sam. Its good to have friendly disagreement, even if one side is misguided, you guys are looking for an echo chamber

[@samdg1234]

Can’t wait to see Sam to reiterate the reasons he is totally convinced that Harris (Kamala) is so much better than Trump. For sure she shone brightly last night.

[@Kykyr69]

Nice back and forth

[@johns.7297]

Sounds like Rahm has discovered the realist theory of international relations.

[@alexgoslar4057]

The future gets shorter and shorter. The presence converts into the past faster than ever before. So, please don’t repeat after me, and don’t repeat after yourself either try as hard as you can to generate original thoughts. Thank you.

[@PlayNiceFolks]

Interesting

[@joelharvey]

Many people in the comment section are levelling the criticism that Sam is only talking to leftists atm. Do you think that’s because it’s election time and he doesn’t want to enable additional right wing influence that might assist trump’s election?

[@Aureilius2112]

Probably exactly what he’s doing and it’s disappointing that he’s playing politics.

[@samdg1234]

Do you consider Sam a leftist and if so are there any people he has talked to that are right of himself?

[@joelharvey]

@@samdg1234 I don't consider him a leftist, i think he's a centrist.

[@alexanderfarthing6126]

I love Japan but will never move there because you work too much!

[@gordonbgraham]

Japan ranks 31st in the world in hours worked per annum

[@JD..........]

Most people probably underestimate the power and importance of Japan...

[@conbrio27]

If you rob someone at knife-point and he willingly empties his wallet for you, do you call that an "enduring friendship"?

[@johnsnow661]

Israelis raped detainees and were thrown in jail and not celebrated? My word, you guys may have missed the part where their were riots until the soldiers were released, and then went on television shows like some kind of heros.

[@JackSchitt-p9t]

They didn't "miss" it, this is a propaganda channel.

[@JDoe404]

what a waste of time that was, while other people like Lex Fridman brings in John Mearsheimer Sam Harris in his eco chamber is hosting Rahm Emanuel.

[@twntwrs]

One of the devices on Mr. Harris' echo chamber is the OWV (Overton Window Limiter). Any prospective guest who falls outside the window won't be invited. The OWV in turn is calibrated to what one is allowed to hear on mainstream media - apparently Mr. Harris' only source as regards politics.

[@AOPrinciple]

They both interrupted each other pretty frequently. Maybe Sam was upset about the previous episode with Harari and wanted to inflict that pain on someone else LOL. On a more serious note, I've been waiting quite a while for someone to tell Sam to his face that Iran is not interested in open war. Finally...

[@levikender4820]

After hearing the adoration from Emmanuel for Japan, I think it’s hilarious that neither of them brought up that Japan would be disgusted. The people and the government of our immigration policies here in the US. The reason Japan is the way it is is because Japan is nationalistic. After living there I can say it’s better for reasons not related to our current elected officials governance.

[@mdgprogrammer]

The people of Japan love it so much that they refuse to have children. Not to mention Hikikomori.

[@stephenbyrneireland]

Good man, Sam. That was a tough one. Doing your best for answers but he's snaking away constantly

[@j.k.cascade2057]

I have learned that Rahm Emanuel is not much of a listener. As someone mentioned below, Sam's editors probably debated if to even release this one.

[@paddydiddles4415]

I wouldn’t describe the Dems political tactic of fast tracking immigrants, as being ‘permissive’

[@robk5427]

Wow, this is way better than when he was friends with Rogan and Bret!

[@jameshegeman5660]

😆😆👏👏👏 (Great comment)

[@aLifepotato]

Dude crossed the hatch or hatchet far before 35min in lol

[@johns.7297]

Taxpayer funded sex change operations for inmates? Those ads run all the time in metro Detroit.

[@EtruscanRecords]

Absolutely a waste of time

[@brettburnside1457]

6:05, "...how much we've stolen from children's childhoods in America..." Meanwhile, 30-year-olds in the US play video games and eat MacDonalds every day. XD

[@synthesizerneil]

Most of the people who still listen to Sam probably don't even know who this guy is and how awful of a snake politician he is. He's all the things they claim Trump is. Sam is a laughing stock and he deserves it.

[@ckq]

I promise you Trump's IQ is at least 20 points lower. He's so dumb, can't even hold a single nuanced view. Just lies to fit a simple narrative. Old man who shits himself regularly

[@RS-uh7rz]

And yet you listen and comment.

[@synthesizerneil]

@@RS-uh7rz Not an argument

[@noahjwhite]

Why is this Sams fault?

[@KenAttenborough-d6y]

The interviewee reveals his character pretty quickly. It was not a good or interesting conversation.

[@lukeodonnell6289]

38:40 Sam’s right on. Cost her the election and rightly so

[@cosmiceye2067]

Extremely boring interview on a very exciting topic.

[@gking407]

Good interview wish I could hear the rest. Sam’s insistence on Harris apologizing for her trans comments is odd given how bizarre Trump has become, especially lately. Sam thinks without a “return to the center” the Democrats will lose supporters who think they are too “woke”. At this point that is nonsense

[@Terrranfear]

I don't see how you can be a liberal but then want to push for some type of cultural win. I thought liberalism generally prescribes freedom and liberty which is a juxtaposition of a top down culture like what right wingers offer.

[@cinemar]

Rahm's excuse for Tim Walzs' questionable truth telling by proclaiming he's a knucklehead being a sufficient explanation for lying about being in China during the Tiananmen Square massacre and the rest of his lies was pitiful.

[@sb.6606]

Completely agree. “I’m an idiot” is a defense that you get to use with your friends when you say something dumb. Not as someone who’s signed up to be second in command. But he’s right about being a knucklehead. It’s just that he’s a knucklehead for a bunch of reasons and a regrettable choice for Harris. He lost that debate for sure.

[@cinemar]

@@sb.6606 Yep. "Knuckleheads" leave the stove on or lock their keys in their car. They don't lie about being in Tianamen Square or that their son was at a school shooting.

[@dickmcwienersonIII]

@@sb.6606He was in China teaching really close to the time it happened wasn’t he?

[@TimDeadmenVP]

Extremely dishonest, must be awful damn ambassador.

[@marina_9236]

Aahhh no video, next time hopefully :)

[@contentharvest]

Man this guy is insufferable, seems like his political underpinnings have unsurprisingly disallowed him from being able to speak freely and openly about any personal beliefs, which is ironically what Sam was trying to get him to engage with about Kamala. I still don’t think Sam fully realizes just how far these Democratic have truly strayed from him

[@bojannikolic4474]

Son, are you done with covering up

[@bojannikolic4474]

One day, you and I on a stage

[@bojannikolic4474]

A lot of problems in the wirld simoly stem from you lying

[@aundreathompson8781]

Yikes. One of the rare bad Making Sense episodes. Rahm really needs to STFU and listen to the question. Very annoying and very arrogant and I can't trust someone who already has an answer before the question has been asked. Also, the fact that he thinks Tim Walz deflecting by saying his lie was a "knuckle-head move" is a good example of why the democratic party is so weak and Trump won in 2016. Politicians treat voters like they are idiots - they are not and they don't like that sort of BS.

[@johnadelsheim595]

Disheartening to see how one-sided so many of these comments appear, even from what should be one of the more thoughtful and open-minded podcast audiences out there. Especially toward the end of this conversation, Emanuel tries to offer what appears to be a calmer and hopefully more politically persuasive way forward from some of VP Harris' earlier positions, while podcaster Harris can not seem to move off his own more one-sided positions -- either because he remains convinced of his own reasoning or because some of his popularity continues to be tied to these positions. Do there remain any bright, knowledgable podcasters, who also pride themselves on their open-mindedness and flexibility?

[@christophorfaust2457]

Never been a fan of Rham, as he’s who advocated selling out the red states for Wall Street, which the democrats gleefully did, but his perspective on the far east has gravity on its side. Isn’t it amazing how living in Japan will do that to a person. My point being is that experience, and time, will change a person’s perspective… just wish I could bottle it!!!

[@TheKundera88]

I was baffled by Rahm Emanuel's low-quality thinking, poor/rude conversation skills, and reliance on incoherent, unimportant, steamroller rants. He talked like a person who never met resistance to his poor arguments. How does a person with such poor intellectual skills rise to this level of influence and responsibility?

[@yogaasana6019]

If you had ever worked in the "gubmit" then you'd not have bothered to ask that question.

[@justgivemethetruth]

I don't understand the criticism of Sam - it always shows up and purports to have a reason, but the reasons are BS or so minor as to not be worth talking about - the kind that if you don't like it, stop listening. I have not yet finished this yet, I am at the part where Emanuel is relieved to be moving on to the Middle East - very funny. But seems like they both pick on Benjamin Netanyahu like a red-headed step-child - he is a target that given what people know about him is an easy target. That is such BS. Look at what was moving in on Israel from North, South, Iran & space. That even demands pre-emption. They say Israel has the right to defend itself, but the whole world is at stake in that, and only because of one side - the crazy Islamic hatefilled terrorist jihadis who somehow have this right due to there being a lot of crazed lunatics that this somehow means the world has to respect them - rather than fear them and manage/handle that fear. It is the same kind of lazy thinking that always leads to massive failure of humanity. Moral hygiene for the entire planet demands that Israel be defended - which is far far far far far more clear that Ukraine because the entire Cold War history of the US with Ukraine. Ukraine there are quibble upon quibbles about history and differing threads of history, but the reality of Arab-Israeli dispute is the intention to destroy Israel and genocide Jews. That is not an attitude from anyone about anyone that can or should be accepted by the world. That splits the world into civilized and barbarian parts, and the civilized parts have to adhere to the rules of civilization. Netanyahu is pushing it masterfully but he is walking the line of a civilized power - and because he is doing so well - all the barbarian and naive countries try to blame him and nothing has stuck - but this endless name-calling. Netanyahu is a jew among Jews. He should get a lot more respect, as should Israel. As should the United States if we can right ourselves.

[@ZanarkandIsntReal]

"They have 14% of the world's fish population and undiscovered oil" They are just literally admitting it's not actually about "Democracy" but control over foreign resources now lol ... Classic war hawk bs. Is that really a "minor" thing to you?

[@twntwrs]

"Zionism is messianic mythological nonsense, a bad idea to base an ethnostate on." Christopher Hitchens

[@Abu_Shimshi]

Maybe when you in a park drinking a beer this guy is a good guest, but when you are trying to fall a sleep, his cutting off Sam every second is unbearable.

[@casualviewing1096]

From what I’ve heard at the start I like this guy, but I’m less than 10 minutes in and I can’t listen anymore. I imagine he must of been nervous or something, but he keeps jumping in on the conversation before the question or qualifier is finished. Really frustrating to listen to.

[@healthwithmarcus]

People--especially those who do not practice meditation or mindfulness--whose minds are bustling with knowledge are often over-eager to communicate it. It's not ideal at all--Neil DeGrasse often suffers from this, too. However!!! I've met minds like this throughout my life on many occasion. Also, I'm ashamed to say, if I wasn't a habitual meditator I'd very much so be the same. Again.. not excuse. Just an explanation. Lastly, sometimes, for these kinds of minds, this is their version of being "excited."

[@healthwithmarcus]

Anndddd there's also a degree of insecurity which makes one overly eager.

[@gordonbgraham]

@@healthwithmarcus hence your impulse to make your perspective known

[@healthwithmarcus]

@@gordonbgraham Hmmm. Nah.

[@gordonbgraham]

@@healthwithmarcus pithy, yet your neediness to convince an absolute stranger on the internet betrays you

[@healthwithmarcus]

@@gordonbgraham Your certainty that it's "neediness" as opposed to an authentic in-the-moment desire to share my view highlights your unreasonable cynicism and arrogance. Both being branches of the Insecuri-tree. You like that? Insecuri-tree. I just came up with that.

[@paulburgess5111]

The way Emanuel dodges questions makes one wonder if he is just as dishonest as Trump

[@nicolaiby1846]

He's a bit difficult to listen to if I'm being honest, he really does sound like he's talking out of an embassy; and I don't mean that in a positive manner.

[@chrisoc9983]

He just refuses to have anyone who has a different viewpoint from him on anymore. So sad to see what's left. Rahm Emanuel lol

[@blue24563]

He always has people on he disagrees with. He tends to avoid lunatic Trumpers and conspiracy theorists

[@synthesizerneil]

@@blue24563 he has never had a guest that truly disagrees with him on anything meaningful. Name one and prove otherwise if you can stand by your claim.

[@synthesizerneil]

@@georgevanderlaan5028 every single person on that list other than Peterson is a die hard Democrat voter who only disagree with Sam about a single wedge issue. All you've proven is how shallow is your view of philosophy and politics. Edit before you try to say Stewart is conservative: if you try to argue that you'd only demonstrate yet again how you know nothing about politics other than orange man bad

[@chrisoc9983]

@@blue24563 Always? Only a Sith deals in absolutes

[@chrisoc9983]

@@georgevanderlaan5028 You gave me 5 names. This is Episode number 378. Not a great ratio. He just doesn't want flack and wants the ability to keep his membership card to the California elite he loves so much. What would he do without all those fancy dinner parties.

[@johananlieberman]

Rahm Emanuel is very irritating to listen to. He deliberately talks over Sam again and again and even admits that he’s trying to steer him away from controversial (aka interesting) topics. Emanuel is also very outdated about Israel and appears pretty clueless about what’s actually going on over here nowadays. Sam, I love your interviews and am a paying subscriber. This is one of the worst so far…

[@Skutchiamo]

Too much talking over each other

[@KenAttenborough-d6y]

That was shit.

[@LucaNova101]

Rammstein ones sang: We all living in America, wunderbar.

[@Simpsinosa]

Rahm. Can you PLEASE let the host speak one full sentence before you jump in??? So cringe!

[@gordonbgraham]

We know the host’s positions on everything

[@brandonboozer9805]

Not used to hearing Mr. Harris take such a permissive stance toward a guest when such clear obfuscation is being employed in response to legitimate and pertinent lines of questioning. I wonder, would this podcast, but hosted by Joe Rogan (another self described center left representative), have been a far more interesting and informative listen.

[@joelharvey]

Joe Rogan has an IQ of 95

[@twntwrs]

To be fair obfuscation is part of the job description when in the employ of government, doubly so as diplomat.

[@jmc5335]

​@@joelharveyYet Harris wouldn't be where he is without him.

[@KissSlowlyLoveDeeply-pm2je]

What a rude guy.