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@Angelgreat2 жыл бұрын
Do the Kuril Islands next!
@woopyboi72622 жыл бұрын
Love your videos :)
@user-hHj18lzOn6sKh2sIj7x2 жыл бұрын
한국은 나쁜 나라입니다. 한국은 북한의 핵 보유를 관철시켜서 장차 통일된 핵 보유국으로 가려는 야심을 가지고 있습니다. 이것을 연출과 기만을 통해 세계를 속이고 있습니다. 또한, 한국인들은 최악의 인종차별주의자들입니다. 우리 한국인들은 이중인격자들이 유독 많습니다. 또한 한국인들은 사회, 경제, 정치, 문화 등 모든 영역에서 갈라져 싸우며 서로를 비난하고 깎아내리며 상대방을 무참하게 짓밟고 괴롭힙니다. 이러한 나쁜 문화와 습관은 사람들을 미치고 지치고 최악의 스트레스 속에서 살게 만듭니다. 정말 많은 한국인들은 결코 좋은 사람들이 아닙니다. 인성과 인격적으로 절대 가까이 하고 싶은 사람들이 아닙니다. 한국 사회는 진정한 병든 국가와 병든 사회입니다. 그리고 한국은 진정한 자유민주주의 국가가 아닙니다. 우리는 사회, 경제, 정치 전반에 독재와 권위주의를 품고 있습니다. 이 모든 것이 인류의 공통 특성이라고요? 천만에!! 속지 마십시오. 한국인들이 유독 나쁜 기질을 가지고 있습니다. 우리 한국인들은 압니다. 이러한 사실들을 널리 퍼뜨려 주세요. 다수의 한국인들은 비난받아야 마땅합니다. 많은 한국인들은 악 그자체 입니다.
@adamradziwill2 жыл бұрын
Makes sense, the U.S. got a piece of Moscow empire and its US biggest state today ! ps dont forget that 4 islands belong to Japan !
@carkawalakhatulistiwa2 жыл бұрын
But is China
@imminij2 жыл бұрын
I’m Korean and I have never heard about the territorial dispute between Russia. It was quite interesting
@bluepotato81872 жыл бұрын
Same
@woohyunahn55102 жыл бұрын
ㄹㅇㅋㅋ
@winterkitten2 жыл бұрын
2017년 기준으로 고등학교 한국사 교과서에 나오는 내용이긴 해요.. When I was high schooler in 2017, this was taught in Korean history class.
@DMTHOTH2 жыл бұрын
녹둔도를 모름? 쯧쯧쯧 교포 2세임?
@desiqti2 жыл бұрын
Koreans, this island will become yours, we feel you, In your case this islands means much more for you, so it would be fair to give it to you. The second point of this deal is beneficial for Russia, because sharing a border with S.Korea would be a fantastic idea for Russia, it's fascinating, that we could share border with Norway, Finland and South Korea at the same time. When mafia government will collapse, i don't think NK will collapse too, considering that they are singlehandedly supported by the pooh, so unfortunately, we will not have the longer border with you, but still, for normal democratic Russia there would be really no good reason to keep it to ourselves. So i hope in one day we will be able to cross our border with one step! ❤💙
@stooge389 Жыл бұрын
"Somewhere between 4-12 Vaticans" Uhhh, excuse me. For your American viewers, could you please put this in terms of either Football Stadiums, or Large Pepperoni Pizzas? That would help us out immensely.
@aaaruiddppin7 ай бұрын
0.9 of a football stadium
@therealuncleowen25887 ай бұрын
As an American, the most useful unit of measure regarding microstates would be Wal-Mart super centers.
@yoylecake3136 ай бұрын
@@therealuncleowen2588 the vatican is about 1 walmart supercenter
@katrinabryce6 ай бұрын
@@therealuncleowen2588 A Vatican is 20 Walmarts.
@therealuncleowen25886 ай бұрын
@@katrinabryce Thank you. That's helps a lot.
@spottySTC2 жыл бұрын
I live in Primorsky Krai, the region where that Noktundo former island is. And i have never heard of this territorial dispute, nor from our mass media, nor from outside ones, nor from individuals living in my Krai or from South Korea, nor from politicians... It seems that this dispute is not critical and not that important.
@hendrikdependrik18912 жыл бұрын
You never heard of it, because Russia is actively suppressing these kind of dangerous ideas. Just see what the Russian government is doing in occupied Ukraine with the school curriculum.
@spottySTC2 жыл бұрын
@@hendrikdependrik1891 I know of Ukraine, i'm half ukrainian with big part of my family living in Kiev. As for "supressing the ideas" - i heard of Kuril islands dispute almost every month, if not week, thanks to my geographical position, both from our mass media, japanese and western ones. I have access to western online press after all. And, well... This is really the first time i have heard of Noktundo, not even western press care about that question.
@goobyssi2 жыл бұрын
I'm Korean and have never heard of this dispute nor even the name of the land.
@raulepure9840 Жыл бұрын
Because it's a pasive dispute, so will be reactivated just in very unsusual circumstances as like implosion of Russia
@marysartr Жыл бұрын
@@raulepure9840lol 😂
@CivilWarWeekByWeek2 жыл бұрын
Makes sense, the U.S. got a piece of Russia and its our biggest state
@kavorkaa2 жыл бұрын
The suckers sold it..
@ibroplatin49152 жыл бұрын
@@kavorkaa Suckers?
@kaushlendrayadav71242 жыл бұрын
@@kavorkaa they didn't want to they had to
@Typhoon4572 жыл бұрын
@@kavorkaa They also don't want British Canada to have it
@kavorkaa2 жыл бұрын
@@kaushlendrayadav7124 tough luck! 😂😂😂
@ara99142 жыл бұрын
You had me giggle at the NFT scammers. A well deserved like.
@johnpark46502 жыл бұрын
"Why South Korea wants a piece of Russia" South Koreans: Wait we do?!?
@lawkey142 жыл бұрын
exactly lol
@Cosbuffett2 жыл бұрын
That's it.
@biggusduckus64892 жыл бұрын
Just you wait, a good several decades of propaganda like this vid, and Koreans will be convinced that they want it 😂
@johnpark46502 жыл бұрын
@@biggusduckus6489 don't worry about it, we're not Chinese 🤣
@ЭйвейлАлександр Жыл бұрын
@@biggusduckus6489 wow~ ⊙o⊙支那出生真滴多啊满地爬
@wkpaik2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting video. Nokdundo (녹둔도) is not in the media much, as much as Dokdo (독도), but it does as you say, have a significant part in Korean history as part of the great admiral Yi Sun-Shin's early military career.
@朱弘宇-j2n2 жыл бұрын
Korean history books are not credible. South Korea used to be a subsidiary of China. In modern times, it was a subsidiary of Japan. It is now a subsidiary of the United States. South Korea is a deformed country. South Koreans are also deformed
@RedXlV Жыл бұрын
Which is interesting, given that Noktundo being rightfully part of Korea is pretty much indisputable, and it's much more historically important than Dokdo. Though the latter is a lot more valuable in the modern era, and South Korea is already in actual possession of it rather than needing to ask another nation to give it back.
@半吃饭饭可控硅 Жыл бұрын
Universe Korea
@imoneixusa9742 Жыл бұрын
@@user-wr5he3hi1r if that was the case for getting it back, Russia would dam it and not let it form
@Funica11 Жыл бұрын
Takeshima (Bamboo shoot islands) SK is illegally occupying are not Dokdo (single island) simply because they are two rocks or islands while Dokdo refers to one island.
@user-ix3vu6um4p2 жыл бұрын
Guys, this is not treated as a dispute in Korea. Koreans are interested in Mt. Baekdu and Dokdo Island.
@friedtoaster40592 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: korea population is interested in it because japan is also interested in it
@Smin-f3h2 жыл бұрын
@@friedtoaster4059 Fun fact: not really
@guayaquilindependiente87632 жыл бұрын
Dokdo rock… that shit is not an island.
@friedtoaster40592 жыл бұрын
@@Smin-f3h fun fact: korea doesnt want to lose
@friedtoaster40592 жыл бұрын
It is and it would give a lot of territory
@Bryan_hajoon5 ай бұрын
지도의 화살표.. 중국을 바다로 나오지 못하도록 막는게.. 매우 중요합니다..
@Bryan_hajoon5 ай бұрын
북한이 정신 좀 차려야 하는데.. 그리고 만주국도 반드시 독립이 필요하고요..
@formyfaterland5 ай бұрын
중국 입장에선 동해가 생각보다 그렇게 중요하지 않다고 생각 함. 대양으로 나가는데 가장 방해되는건 일본의 섬들과 관계.
@용사-h4n5 ай бұрын
중국운 대양으로 나올 해안이 많다.. 중요한건 러시아가 부동항 확보에 열을 올리고 있다는게 중요한 것이지..
@We_are_Koreans5 ай бұрын
@@formyfaterland중요합니다 어디서 헛소리듣고왔나보네
@andreimoutchkine51635 ай бұрын
Too late. The Chinese are leasing the whole estuary to build a port.
@tariver16932 жыл бұрын
In 2005 there was a demarcation of Russian-Chinese border, when control over a couple of islands on the Amur river with total area of 337 square kilometers was passed from Russia to China. The reason that was stated - to settle all border disagreements and to improve relations with China. So I wouldn't say that passing control over such a small "island" is out of the question, but not in the current situation certainly. Edit: since I keep getting replies about it - the phrase "not in current political situation" also includes the existence of two Koreas.
@kotletachalovek78322 жыл бұрын
the problem lies within the 2020 "changes" to Russian constitution, which make it unlawful to give away any territory. unless these changes are revoked (and there's a good case for that in case any reformist/anti-Putin faction takes power, because 2020 "vote" (it should've been a referendum btw) is pretty much a sham, not even counting voter fraud) the current Russian government can just raise their hands and say "no can do, look at our constitution"
@fusionreactor71792 жыл бұрын
Giving it to SK would be problematic and create a diplomatic crisis with NK
@alecseusalec34182 жыл бұрын
Well,those islands were litteral pain in the ass due to changes in the course of the river. There have even been border conflicts in 50-s and later. And half of them rigth now sunk. Happened before,they will re-emmerge later.
@MuantanamoMobile2 жыл бұрын
Also as long as South Korea remains a staunch US ally, that will never happen since it will mean US troops potentially being placed there. Just like how Russia has closed down any further negotiations with Japan over the Kuril Islands, due to Japan's foreign policy being simply an extension of US foreign policy.
@overlordborn61312 жыл бұрын
South korea is puppet of USA, USA won't waste any time they would immediately deploy THAD missile near to russia china border .
@snipertrader20GBS2 жыл бұрын
It's a good day when Politics with Paint uploads, I'm now gonna watch it!
@BrianHSC2 жыл бұрын
What would S.Korea do with that land? Yes it was Korean territory but there's no way to claim it today and it is not considered as "disputed" territory. Same with Taiwan officially claiming Baekdu mountain. They claim it was given to them by japanese during their occupation of Korea but they don't dispute it as there's no way for them to occupy it. Korea would rather dispute Dae-Ma-Do.
@davebauman49912 жыл бұрын
If DPRK were to strike a deal with Russia now it'd be quite the coup.
@yongdol732 жыл бұрын
I’m Korean and we do not even know about this bro. lmao. I’m sure where this guy the idea but I’m telling u. This is BS 😂 And bro just cill. We don’t want Daemado. We acknowledge that the land belongs to Japan.
@BrianHSC2 жыл бұрын
@@yongdol73 영어가 안되면 그냥 한글로 하세요. Bro 쓴다고 영어 잘하는거처럼 보이는거 아닙니다. 대마도를 주장한다는게 아니라 녹둔도를 주장하는게 대마도 주장하는것만큼 어이없는거란 말이었습니다.
@질문빌런-f5i2 жыл бұрын
차라리 대마도 점령하는게 확률이 더 높다 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
@Cloudyallday2 жыл бұрын
Imagine thinking you're smart because you watched some history videos
@kmsg8162 жыл бұрын
In fact, the reason why many South Koreans are indifferent to the issue is that the land is currently under North Korea's control. If it was the land of South Korea now, Koreans would have been very interested.
@larshofler82982 жыл бұрын
Also it is a tiny piece of land that went under Russian control in 1860... The modern Korea was founded after WWII...
@crusaderforchrist84302 жыл бұрын
@@larshofler8298 it was part of Korea since ancient times, 1860s isn't far away.
@larshofler82982 жыл бұрын
@@crusaderforchrist8430 And Korea was part of China in ancient times... Lol
@포플러-c9s2 жыл бұрын
@@larshofler8298 Korea was an ally with China, but never a part of it. Don't make your fantasy true.
@larshofler82982 жыл бұрын
@@포플러-c9s Korea was a tributary state of Ming that adopted Ming customs for the government and the royal affairs. The King of Korea held the Ming title of Prince.
@androtchitchinadze34502 жыл бұрын
I hope next video you will discuss the conflict between Georgia and Russia
@hwanin12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this interesting topic! I've never heard about this small piece of land before watching your video.
@Hamsteak2 жыл бұрын
I love how processes from geography likes to screw up our feeble human ideas of (natural)borders. Just like what goes on in Europe with Croatia and Serbia (I think)
@branilavvasic97272 жыл бұрын
Yes but our dispute is about more valuable land. There is a city of Apatin on disputed territory while Noktundu is not inhabited.
@AngryDuck792 жыл бұрын
Almost like killing people over imaginary lines on the ground is silly or something.
@Solaire_au_Frohmage2 жыл бұрын
@@AngryDuck79 Almost like killing people is silly in general.
@abhabh68962 жыл бұрын
@@AngryDuck79 I will die for Serbia. If "Developed world" deems it stupid to die over land, they should leave Kosovo well enough alone.
@maalikserebryakov2 жыл бұрын
@@abhabh6896 You only have one worldly life and will throw it away for inanimate objects. pathetic
@2SSSR22 жыл бұрын
Very interesting topic, I love how your channel always presents this kind of things in an interesting manner. As for the issue itself: never going to happen as the can of worms will be greater than that of Russia or South Korea. By the same logic Germany can ask both Poland and Russia to return all the land to Kaliningrad with the city itself to them as it was historically great German land and city. Furthermore, Russia (even under sanctions) is still a powerful military and political force. Add to that the North Korean agreement that the land is now Russian and you get quite the impossible situation. But the bottom line: as long as everyone has access to the land in question there is no issue as everyone can visit it at any time.
@SapFeaRon2 жыл бұрын
russia offered kaliningrad in 1992 to germany and they refused to take it back you know.
@mrbisshie2 жыл бұрын
@@SapFeaRon Germany accepting Kaliningrad would have been a huge mistake, that would destabilize a recently unified Germany. Now Germany has to accept a bunch of Russians and make them citizens, while already still dealing with millions of east Germans from 2 years ago.
@BoxStudioExecutive Жыл бұрын
Why not have England ask the USA to return all the land east of the Mississippi river? rofl
@TheKing-uu7jn Жыл бұрын
@@mrbisshie they also offered it to Lithuania but they refused as well Since if they did take it. It would’ve made Lithuanian a over 1/4 ethnically Russian
@СырКолбасный Жыл бұрын
@@TheKing-uu7jn i cant find any information about these offers, did Russia offer Moscow to poles also?
@ThatQingMapper Жыл бұрын
“Buy my NFT” 😂😂😂
@mikitadou6 ай бұрын
man I hate the 16th century scammers...
@ThatQingMapper6 ай бұрын
@@mikitadou 💀
@NOWORNEVER-o3p5 ай бұрын
와.. 여기서 역사공부네.. 감사합니당.
@HuaTenMa6664 ай бұрын
What do you think of Mount Paektu?
@calera52-xt8oo5 ай бұрын
Other:Wait.. do Korea want a piece of Russia?😮😮 Korean: What is noktundo?😐😐😐😐😐
@muscasin31692 жыл бұрын
However, living in Seoul, I've never met anyone who talks about Noktundo. I think that if a unified Korea get territory beyond the Tuman River, it will be more difficult to defend our borders...
@lordofvoid48186 ай бұрын
Kazakhstan also has a border dispute over a island in the black sea and with norway over the north part of kola area
@feliscatus1216 ай бұрын
내가 양키 채널에서 녹둔도 역사를 알게되었네 ㅋㅋ
@아햏햏2 жыл бұрын
Even at the time of the Sino-Russian border conflicts, Russia and Joseon fought in what is now Река Амур. It's called '나선정벌' in Korean.
@user-ex1hj7fj1x2 жыл бұрын
Huh. As a korean, I never heard about it. Very interesting.
@leogura65802 жыл бұрын
But... What about Mongolia???
@Meteorknite2 жыл бұрын
@@leogura6580 what about mongolia ? The chinesè dispute there ?
@SKoreanKimchi2 жыл бұрын
그니까, 처음 들어보네…
@youngsong22546 ай бұрын
I heard before.
@kuf29455 ай бұрын
나는 알았는데....😅😅
@Zero_Contradictions2 жыл бұрын
Superb video! I also appreciate how much you interact with your viewers.
@Michael_Wurster2 жыл бұрын
Dokdo seems to be similar in its symbolic value, because I remember seeing this video repeat on the Seoul metro showing proof of documents affirming South Korea as rightful controller of the Island. I have no idea the value of such islands, militarilly i could see it, but i thought it was interesting to bring up.
@kgjung23102 жыл бұрын
The value probably has more to do with EEZs and the control over surrounding resources like fish, natural resources.
@goobyssi2 жыл бұрын
I'm Korean and have never heard of this dispute with Russia nor even the name of the land, Nokdundo. Dokdo is a different story though.
@Michael_Wurster2 жыл бұрын
@@kgjung2310 ah i see, thank you for telling me!
@facelessgod-kg7xk2 жыл бұрын
@@Michael_Wurster Since korea was one country on 14 century if this part has to be claimed to korea it should be to the north because 38 degree divide north and south. This will not happen since US will not return the land to the native Americans
@aaaaaaaard95862 жыл бұрын
@@facelessgod-kg7xk That’s ridiculous because both Koreas claim the whole penninsula and every single islands. 38th parallel was just a temporal border between north and south after the independence and before the war. It doesn’t give any justification to any territorial dispute today
@kerbalproductionshideout53982 жыл бұрын
Yo, I’d like to say, thank you for putting out this awesome content. It is greatly appreciated!
@NickHjLee12285 ай бұрын
As a South Korean, I ve never heard that We want that land..?
@Narutowatcher465 Жыл бұрын
The "Buy My NFT" ball cracked me up
@Jamief15852 жыл бұрын
I love this youtube channel so much. It is making me feel better through staying at home because of COVID
@theunfunnychannel55672 жыл бұрын
Your still staying home?
@siyacer2 жыл бұрын
COVID ended 2 years ago
@Jamief15852 жыл бұрын
@@theunfunnychannel5567 I got Covid, I am quarantining myself
@PoliticswithPaint2 жыл бұрын
Get well soon!
@theunfunnychannel55672 жыл бұрын
@@Jamief1585 oh my bad
@stupidburp Жыл бұрын
Korea could claim vastly more land than that on a historical basis. Korea had control of a considerable portion of the area North of the Yalu River at several points in time.
@agarlicsorbet6482 Жыл бұрын
That's why China is doing that historical revisionist project to erase ancient Korean history in Manchuria including Koguryeo. Because they can only think in the way they themselves think: that we Koreans will somehow try to claim that land, but Koreans are not cr4zy nor do we have interest or power to actually take over Chinese Northeast. CCP has more political reasons to do that historical revisionism mainly: in case North Korea collapses and possibly get absorbed by South Korea. They need every justification to control the North due to US army presence in the South, which will want to take part in whatever happens in the North. Its a hairy situation that not many outside Korea and Chinese top knows.
@viligerm65923 ай бұрын
0:11 Wait doesn't Russia also have a territorial dispute with Latvia?
@MilosiaSecondAccАй бұрын
NATO won't accept them then
@wxe.z320 күн бұрын
No?
@chunbae5 ай бұрын
Great job. Thanks for your complete information. Nokdundo is korean name ❤
@wildsurfer122 жыл бұрын
If this ever happened I think we would get a situation similar to the West German embassy in Vienna in the late 80’s. So many North Koreans would swim over to the island and claim asylum in the south.
@Dave1026932 жыл бұрын
Probably would
@mrbisshie Жыл бұрын
If Russia wanted to mess with North and South Korea, selling the territory to South Korea could be an amusing way to mess with North and South Korea. North Korea would flip out if they suddenly had South Korea to the north of them.
@rdelrosso1973 Жыл бұрын
Good Point. I never thought of that. But why would Russia give the Island to South Korea, when she could give it to NORTH Korea?
@mrbisshie Жыл бұрын
@@rdelrosso1973 Because South Korea would pay more. It'd cost stability issues in the area for South Korea, North Korea, China, Japan, and America to deal with. Also, it'd be funny.
@bojangles20945 ай бұрын
It was very informative and profoundly shocking that this territorial issue even existed. Also, your narration was spot on. As a Korean descendant, I have never heard about this, but it is obvious there that you have researched and now we know. Thank you! ps- btw, are you a Brit? Your pronunciation of Korean was pretty amazing and I couldn't get my head around to figure out your nationality.
@a3b36a042 жыл бұрын
If you look a little back in history you might find out that Taejo of Joseon was unable take over all of Goryo (Koryo) and it's people were (are?) not even considered to be Koreans by the "proper, non-barbaric" Koreans despite having practically the same language and culture. So you can theoretically fit a third Korea north of North Korea. History can be a little mind-blowing sometimes.
@mxn1948 Жыл бұрын
meh. there are plenty of "koreas" even the south was once two kingdoms. hell the tang once owned directly 75% of the current korean peninsula. the korean-chinese people in china today is pretty much hated by the south korean government, because those people are some of the most pro-china chinese citizens anywhere, they will even sing and chant for china in korean-chinese sport matches, much to the annoyance of the south korean government.
@inkhwon Жыл бұрын
@@mxn1948 not sure how reliable your opinion is, seeing as you've been shitting on South Korea throughout the comments section
@mxn1948 Жыл бұрын
@@inkhwon what do you mean?? I only said sk has a daddy it has to answer to so Russia cannot make these kind of major deals without the daddy saying yes also. The daddy is of course the us. And I provided evidence, with the us pressuring sk to limit cooperation with china and demanding Samsung not fill voids left by micron, so complies even though Samsung had publicly stated they didn't want to and have protested against us demands of giving up it's data to the us government, yet at the end of the day they still do whatever the us says. What part of what I said there isn't true?
@KairuinKorea2 жыл бұрын
Also, in Russian law it is LITERALLY illegal to ever succeed territory to another country. That alone would put the matter out of the question as an excuse for Russia to refuse to even discuss the issue.
@arizonabusinessleague9182 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's only legal to steal land through espionage and genocide!
@KOTYAR12 жыл бұрын
Tell that to our oligarch rulers. They are eager to sell people themselves, not only land.
@danwelterweight41372 жыл бұрын
@@KOTYAR1 all countries are ruled by Oligarchs. All these Korean conglomerates. Who do you think run these corporations. All Oligarchs and the Korean government lives to protect their power. The difference is that when Oligarchs get out of line in Russia, Putin makes them go swim with the fishes and makes them become one with the Universe.
@timoi-2 жыл бұрын
The territory is extremely insignificant if South Korea abandons the alliance with the United States And we will start negotiations with China and Russia, and make a U-turn in its favor. This will instantly lead to a breakthrough in relations, and then this territory can even be transferred free of charge or even connect both Koreas. This will affect the standard of living, and the economy is very strong, yes. But choosing in favor, giving up freedom, for the sake of the strength of the nation, this is what great nations do. 75 million United Korea, I think it will be a very serious country. And then it will be possible to claim not only revenge for the massacre of Koreans from Japan, or put up with the rejection of the Japanese islands. And already claim the annexation of Japan.
@ДенисЯсников-ы8я Жыл бұрын
That's not 100% correct. Our law says that exceptions are possible in case of delimitation or demarcation of the border with a neighborhood countries. So, it is not strictly forbidden to cede some land if the goverment wants to do it. The quote in Russian: Действия (за исключением делимитации, демаркации, редемаркации государственной границы Российской Федерации с сопредельными государствами), направленные на отчуждение части территории Российской Федерации, а также призывы к таким действиям не допускаются.
@asierescobal12482 жыл бұрын
11:02 -Korea: Finland? Is Korea, Russia is giving land away! -Finland: Russia is giving land away?! Georgia, Russia is giving land away! -Georgia: Russia is giving land away?! - Ukraine: Hello? *Georgia by phone* Russia is giving land away! *O FORTUNA*
@The_069 Жыл бұрын
Russia is giving land away!?
@lissinae5 ай бұрын
이순신 장군 어쩌고 하면서 저걸 왜 모르냐 하는데... 간도를 비롯해 한때 한민족이 영위했던 모든 영토를 수복하자는 이야기인가? 어차피 북한이랑 통일이라도 하면 모를까. 그 이전에 남한이 저 영토 가지고 러시아랑 싸울 일 없음. 독도나 잘 지키자구.
@신-w2p5 ай бұрын
외국인이 녹둔도에 대해서 자세히 설명해줘서 감사하고 대단합니다.
@pclodiop2 жыл бұрын
god you are consistently great in your content, ily
@아회남5 ай бұрын
오우. 한국인들도 잘모르는 부분을 잘 정리했네요. 대다수의 평범한 한국인은 잘 모르지만, 충분히 가능성 있습니다. 한국이 어떻게 힘이 커지냐에 따라서 미래가 바뀌겠지요. 😅
@용사-h4n5 ай бұрын
한국의 왠만한 사람들은 알고 있는 녹둔도와 이순신 스토리...
@user-Erimej2 жыл бұрын
If South Korea would try to claim Noktundo than North Korea would also be angry at South K. for claiming a former territory that wasn't even bordered
@crusaderforchrist84302 жыл бұрын
we are same people, no such thing as north or south koreans.
@user-Erimej2 жыл бұрын
@@crusaderforchrist8430 I'm talking about COUNTRIES! Not nationalities!
@crusaderforchrist84302 жыл бұрын
@@user-Erimej This is why NK never contest SK claim on Dokdo. The same would apply to what you said.
@user-Erimej2 жыл бұрын
@@crusaderforchrist8430 I mean, it's already very hard enough to reunite Korea do to the legacy of The Cold War. But a contested claim on one of North Korea's neighbors? North Korea would HATE see South Korea blocking a neighbor who had resolved a dispute for a long time ago
@crusaderforchrist84302 жыл бұрын
@@user-Erimej It's only hard because of Kim regime is legit gov't of North Korea.
@강태민-h6o2 жыл бұрын
As a Korean, never even heard about this issue and so does every single person out there except who aren’t nuts in to these kind of things
@yin62872 жыл бұрын
@@anil78985 I think the "aren't" is a typo. He meant "As a Korean, never even heard about this issue and so does every single person out there except those who are nuts into this kind of thing."
@anil789852 жыл бұрын
@@yin6287 Korea is nothing in front of Russia China North Korea They are just a vassal state of USA still too much arrogant people live in Korea. I hope there is a nuclear strike on Seoul and Busan.
@anil789852 жыл бұрын
@@yin6287 one more racist Korean
@가가밍밍2 жыл бұрын
@@anil78985 Considering the Russia-Ukraine war, I think North Korea can win a war with Russia.
@anil789852 жыл бұрын
@@가가밍밍 but South Korea can't 🤣🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮
@adrianpk87952 жыл бұрын
지금은 러시아고 북한이고 뭐고 관심없어... 우리나라 살기 바빠.. 그런데 러시아가 잘 살고 있는 그 땅의 조상 들을 강제 이주 시킨건 잊지 않아.. 이건 역사니까? 되돌릴 수 없겠지. 하지만 또 알아? 언젠가 상황은 변할 수도 있겠지. 땅 넓어봤자 러시아나 중국처럼 제대로 관리도 못할바엔 다 필요 없어. 다만 같은 언어 같은 동징설을 가진 사람들은 제발 갈라놓지 말고 그대로 놔줘.
@HazeKasaki17 күн бұрын
This is one of the silliest territorial disputes I've ever seen.
@mcbmghome2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video
@김준혁-r3e2 жыл бұрын
2000년대 대한민국 정규 교육과정에서 국사를 배웠지만 녹둔도라는 지명 자체가 생소하네요. 물론 이 분쟁을 공론화 하고 싶지 않았던 정부의 지침이 있었던 것인지도 모르겠지만, 독도와 이어도 이슈에 비해선 무게감이 떨어지는게 사실이죠.
@gallasebiyo44272 жыл бұрын
이순신의 유일한 패배인 녹둔도 전투는 꽤 유명해요. 뭐 그 전투 이후에 복수에 성공하기는 했지만요.
@candleproducer2 жыл бұрын
녹둔도를 몰라. 공부해 인마
@dltmdwnfkdldjs2 жыл бұрын
니가 무식한거지
@라온하루-k5p2 жыл бұрын
@@gallasebiyo4427 병력 보강 요청을 무시한 위 상부의 묵살로 어쩔 수 없이 당한 패배로 중과부적의 패배임!
@makergreen2 жыл бұрын
@@candleproducer 근데 대다수가 그 위치를 모르고 있는지도 모르는 땅으로 인식되고 있는데, 결국 그와 관련된 영상 미디어가 불멸의 이순신 하나밖에 없다 보니 더욱 그런 거 아닐까요? 저도 어릴 적에 불멸의 이순신 재미있게 봤었는데 기억엔 하나도 남지 못했고, 이후에 역사 매니아들이 불멸의 이순신을 고증이 없는 사극으로서 욕을 엄청 해서 요즘엔 많이 저평가되고 있는 게 아닌가 싶네요. 더군다나 저 같은 경우에는 문이과가 나누어져 있고 수능 탐구영역 3개씩 보던 세대였는데(2012학년 수능) 1학년 때 한국사에서 녹둔도 언급이 없었습니다. 이후 2학년부턴 이과로 넘어가서는 문과 한국사에서 더 나왔는지는 알 수가 없으니 최근 문이과 나누는 게 사라지게 되면서 모두가 국사를 배우게 된 뒤로부터는 10년 차이나는 세대보다 더 자세히 알 수가 없죠…
@GarretShadow Жыл бұрын
I like how "Korean unification scenario" excludes years long bloodbath and possibility of "Korean unification" under North Korea
@BuRsTiNxMLB Жыл бұрын
Crazy how you spread 30 seconds of content into a 10 min video
@meshalmarzooq2 жыл бұрын
Man!! You are a legend!!!!!!
@Skr_.2 жыл бұрын
Your background music is giving me Sam O’Nella flashbacks.
@SFVYachtClub2 жыл бұрын
They could probably trade 1 pack of Dosirak noodles for a piece of land the same size as the paper lid.
@marzo212 жыл бұрын
Special operation on Deyachtization of san ferdando yacht club
@Dutchbag14022 жыл бұрын
Only if it's Doshirak Red
@林介石6 ай бұрын
비록 공식적인 분쟁지역으로 인식하지는 않지만, "녹둔도가 우리 땅이었다면" 하고 아쉽게 생각하는 인식은 존재하죠. 흥미로운 영상이었습니다.
@seokju8745 ай бұрын
조선시대 까지만 해도 우리땅이었다면 찾아야하는게 맞지 우리땅이였다면이 아니라!머리 어떻게 된거?
@ksmb23335 ай бұрын
넘어가지 마세요. 지금 서양 애들이 한국이 러시아 전쟁에 참여해 줬음.. 이라는 욕망 반영한 컨텐츠네요, 러시아는 한반도 통일 진심으로 바라는 유일한 인접국가입니다. 미국이나 중국은 현상유지를 원하고 일본 꼴통들은 내심 제 2의 한국전쟁이 일본 경제를 회생시킬 거라 믿고.. 아무튼 죄다 분단상태가 영원한 국익이라고 생각할 떄 러시아 혼자 한반도 평화 통일과 번영을 국익이라고 생각합니다. 러시아가 착해서가아니라 실제로 러시아랑 한국은 지금보다 좀 더 거리가 가까워져야 서로 얻을 게 많아요. 지금이야 러시아가 한심한 전쟁 중이라 손절치고 있지만, 나중에라도 소탐대실은 하지 않고 우선순위를 정했음 좋겠네요.
@me-jd5cp5 ай бұрын
청나라가 멎대로 따라 줬는데 찾아야지요
@101보병-d7v5 ай бұрын
언젠가는 우리 대한민국의 영토로 되찾아야 하지 싶습니다
@rustix32 жыл бұрын
8:00 "For Korea its value almost entire derives from it's symbolic character." Oh, no, here we go again. I guess that Russia thought the same about Ukraine. Also there are plenty symbolic valued territories which symbolism is shared between different parties. I don't think that all of those parties should go to into conflict because of some "symbolic" values, it's a symbol after all, it's only valued when people agree on it, so why not creating your own symbol. May be K-pop? Anyway, the North Korea as a symbolic territory should be the top priority for the South Korea.
@Seriona1 Жыл бұрын
You had me in the first half and lost me with the last sentence. The problem with both Korea's is that because it's a civil war, both nations have legal claims to the other side and every nation who fought for their Korea knows this. Paektu Mountain is a classic example of this, China had no choice but to have talks with BOTH Korea's on where the border runs on the mountain and fortunate for China, they got both Korean's to agree on the same set of lines which is rare. I agree to a degree that South Korea has to worry about North Korea first however it in order to have legal claim, they cannot do exactly what Pakistan and India has when Jammu and Kashmir was invaded by Pakistan to which Jammu and Kashmir went to India for military help and it to this day has been leading to who actually owns what because of the situation it was in. USSR technically created this problem by just assuming North Korea's view was good enough, I give credit to China for being a bit wiser. Because if North Korea ever gets annexed by the South, anyone with a brain will know that North Korean treaties are now pointless and would be stupid to assume the South would enforce them.
@gnupfo Жыл бұрын
Germany had a similar situation where the Eastern Bloc country ceded territories to the USSR (technically Poland, but since it also ceded to the USSR it was a Soviet net gain), but nothing ever came of it as the West German government realized that it was de facto lost and abandoned its claims over it as part of its reconciliation policies. I don't think the situation is any different here.
@Jarosław-f7v Жыл бұрын
As a Russian living in the region, it seems to me that you are exaggerating on this point. Despite the sanctions, the Russians and South Koreans get along just fine. First of all, Japan is not disputing all of the Kurils, but only the southern part. And when I was on Iturup, I didn't notice any desire among the residents to become part of Japan. So I think that all the disputes in our region are greatly exaggerated. It seems to me that such a notion as historical territory cannot be the basis for redrawing maps, as it would bring blood and suffering to people living now, not to those who lived once. Besides, Japan has no historical justification for these territories, since Japan was an empire like Russia, and Russia simply managed to be the first to join the Kurils.
@sansan25917 ай бұрын
Exaggerated? Wake up ! Japanese people has deep desire to bring back Kuril islands because island is crucial point to limit Russian navy and offensive capability. Japanese people are quite ignorant with many issues but when it comes to Kuril islands everyone aware of it
@j.k.12396 ай бұрын
@@sansan2591 They want to gift them to US.
@qrop97755 ай бұрын
대한민국이 통일이 되면 러시아에게 그 땅을 달라고 요구할겁니다 안돼라고 한다면 전쟁해야죠 지금 러시아 군사력보면 한국이 한달안에 팰수있을것 같음
@Arv_2011Ай бұрын
How is it like living so course to nk
@chris922642 жыл бұрын
I already know this but is underrated topic
@busyhoneybee45172 жыл бұрын
I'm SKorean but I doubt what's the thumbnail?! strange and never heard of that claim.
@magnvss Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile China: This was forever mine.
@handleb00ba2 жыл бұрын
Just have joint custody with a 4 month rotation of ownership of Noktundo. Jan - Apr is North Korea, May - Aug is Russia and Sept - Dec is South Korea's turn.
@revolter70942 жыл бұрын
How about it just stays Russian as it is?
@ebonymaw84572 жыл бұрын
What is the writing script used in your name?
@seanrodgers18392 жыл бұрын
4:19 "Buy my NFT." Nice one.
@rutabega83482 жыл бұрын
I find your videos strangely calming
@Anwwoo2 жыл бұрын
Your countryball drawings are adorable. Great summarization!
@Meteorknite2 жыл бұрын
Arent the Korean dynasty's capitals been in north korea ? Even by claims it will go to North Korea. This like ignoring NorthKorea Main quest and hitting side quest
@ebonymaw84572 жыл бұрын
Seoul was the main capital of Korean kingdoms j think & Pyeongyang was secknd
@KungKras2 жыл бұрын
@@ebonymaw8457 Both have been the capital in different eras
@ebonymaw84572 жыл бұрын
@@KungKras yes. But Seoul was capital more times I think
@korean_patriot_8152 жыл бұрын
In the first place, Korea and China have never denied the sovereignty of Russia's Primorye region.
@dardade32772 жыл бұрын
If this is really a contentious issue for South Korea, I have to wonder why the very first course of action isn't negotiating "Russia, Can we buy this exact plot of land from you for X money?" If it's not particularly valuable to Russia, then I'm sure there IS a price that would be acceptable. That price might be exceedingly expensive, but if SK wanted the land because its important to them (and not just because they "might" get it for free, which objectively speaking IS probably the actual reason, not to be a Korea-hater) then that transaction should theoretically still be favorable to both sides.
@timoi-2 жыл бұрын
yes, everything has a price, and Russia has sold territories more than once But then it will be necessary to simultaneously buy out the territory from both North Korea and China, i.e. cajole them.
@bucktooth002 Жыл бұрын
China owes money to Korea for giving this land away to Russia.
@krisinsaigon7 ай бұрын
If the water course changes, I would have thought the border stayed the same in law. Where I live there is a big river that seperates two provinces, and there are little pockets of the other province on the wrong side of the river, and it’s because the course of the river changed but it’s borders didn’t
@WiseSilverWolf2 жыл бұрын
4:19 LOL! "And Scammers" then a bunch of "Buy My NFT"' people show up, thats so true.
@or28086 ай бұрын
As a Korean I frankly have never heard of anyone talk about Noktundo, but thanks for letting me know about korean history
@KamroshaAI2 жыл бұрын
your chanell is very underrated...
@유준서-o1y4 ай бұрын
You had a mistake, the name of the ocean between the East side of Korean territory and the West side of Japanese territory is originally "East Sea." That is true... That part can arouse erroneous concept of "Dokdo" possession, which isn't controversial at all. It'll be nice of you and your subscribers if you provide accurate information, I think.
@seoul_95842 жыл бұрын
First of all, Thank you for your amazing video. Im Korean. And we don't need that island that much. South Korea have good relationship with Russia. And i don't think it is necessary to risk national security for that dead land. Probably Russia wants peace and good relationship with South Korea as well. We already have Chinese communists. No more enemy!
@fgvfgv59762 жыл бұрын
Hope Russia will give this island to RK back, after Putin will done.
@jkc37382 жыл бұрын
enemy of Chinese? you people? plastic K? come on.....even North Korean can beat you up several times🤣
@seoul_95842 жыл бұрын
@@jkc3738 China is not that strong country lol And North Korea is not even a country who can survive themselves lol
@seoul_95842 жыл бұрын
@@jkc3738 Just let Manchus, Mongols, Tibet and Uyghur get liberated. They are not belong to China
@jkc37382 жыл бұрын
@@seoul_9584 North Korea is not a country....but you r..? your american papa won't agree ...🤣What kind of country is still occupied by a foreign force?..your plastic army doesn't even have command on your own in wartime...let you people do what you people do their best. . just make a puppet state...of Chinese..Japanese...Americans ...just like old time🤣
@OKgift5 ай бұрын
녹둔도와 간도 영유권 문제는 통일 한국의 숙제
@ilpc68112 жыл бұрын
이순신 장군이 여기서도 싸웠다는걸 외국 유투버를 통해 처음 알았다...
@Pyro-Moloch Жыл бұрын
Get in line, Korea.
@Brastia6 ай бұрын
I would like to point out that the name of your map is incorrect. 250 years ago it was called Sea of Korea, not Sea of Japan. Internationally. After Japan forcibly annexed Korea in 1910, it was changed to Sea of Japan, and it continues to this day. It is now referred to as the East Sea, but the reason for such a neutral name is because it is not a Japanese sea in the first place. Historically, it has always been Korea's sea. Not only Nokdundo Island, but most of Vladivostok was an area where Koreans lived from the middle to the end of the Joseon Dynasty under the name of Maritime Province. After it was forcibly annexed by Japan, it was used as a place for many anti-Japanese independence fighters to avoid Japanese influence, strengthen their power, and foster resistance. It was a place that helped. Later, the Soviet government forcibly relocated the Koreans there and sent them to the wastelands of Central Asia to farm the land. So now, Koreans who have lost their nationality, called 'Goryeoins', are living in various parts of Central Asia and Russia, speaking Russian.
@haughton4832 Жыл бұрын
Something that was not mentioned but I think is even more important if the cession happened would be the effect on North Korea. For defectors trying to escape, they either have to cross the DMZ (which is full of mines, wild animals, and North Korean defenses), go though China and cross though the Gobi Desert into Mongolia, or travel south through China all the way to southeast Asia without speaking Chinese. However, if they are caught by China or Russia they are deported and imprisoned. If South Korea controlled Noktundo, it would provide an easy place for defectors to escape to, and therefore would be a MASSIVE headache for Pyongyang to contain. Though very unlikely, a relatively safe and easy freedom from such an oppressive regime could suddenly send millions of defectors (as well as the troops inevitably sent to stop them) streaming together over the border, and lead to the potential collapse of North Korea.
@chris922642 жыл бұрын
If south Korea got that land north Korea people will still escape in china to Thailand beacuse they don't know that island is apart of korea
@longfox23032 жыл бұрын
Not much of a dispute. Most koreans don't even know about this. Don't blow this out of proportion.
@punditgi6 ай бұрын
One hell of a story very well told. Bravo! 😊
@himssendol65127 ай бұрын
Dude 😂😂 I've never heard of this and i'm pretty sure 99.9% of Koreans around me have also never heard of this. 😂😂
@Goblin69745 ай бұрын
이것은 파워게임이 가능한 서양인의 관점입니다. 한국과 같은 🇺🇸의 임시초소 국가는 스스로 파워게임이 불가능하기 때문에 관심이 없는 문제입니다
@해리매과이어-l2k5 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video. As a Korean, I was very sympathetic to the need for unification, which is the reason why I wasn't so concerned about the territorial dispute with Russia. And even if actual unification is achieved, it is difficult to claim territory over Nokdundo, and it is unlikely to do so. Rather, it is expected that the territorial dispute over Manchuria and Gando with China will be greater. In particular, diplomatic capabilities against North Korea will be consumed to prevent China from entering the East Sea
@hpk93212 жыл бұрын
녹둔도를 다뤄 준 채널에 감사합니다. 녹둔도 뿐 아니라 간도의 일부도 힘으로 러시아가 청나라로부터 뺏은 땅일 뿐이고 녹둔도의 실질적 주인인 조선의 의사와 무관하게 진행된 역사적 사건의 하나일 뿐이다! 그 논리와 상황처럼 원하면 힘을 길러 다시 뺐으면 그만이다! 한국이 그 땅을 다시찾을 역사적 당위성과 근거는 넘친다.다만 힘이 미치지 못할뿐이다.
@PatrikVolkov19942 жыл бұрын
Nah we won and take those island now it's ours 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺💪💪💪
@서서브미스6 ай бұрын
@@PatrikVolkov1994우크라이나에 포탄배달하고 싶게 만드네 ㅋㅋ
@합스부르크5 ай бұрын
이러니까 서방세계에서 러시아를 까지ㅋㅋ@@PatrikVolkov1994
@풀잎-h4b5 ай бұрын
@@PatrikVolkov1994 no korea area
@외국인-t8m5 ай бұрын
@@PatrikVolkov1994 Are you lived in 1980? How can you beat Korea? you can't even beat Ukraine There is only reason you can survival is Korea love peace
@Haibing226 ай бұрын
“Russia could get access to the [South] Korean market” Russia after signing a treaty with North Korea, reaffirming its trade with China, India, Iran and others: Sorry, what? I was distracted counting all this money
@victorlee88722 жыл бұрын
As a Chinese, the Noktundo is a pain which we lost the way to the Japan sea. Even though it is not far walking to.
@1mol831 Жыл бұрын
@@Goddammitthey could claim the lands north of noktundo if Russia collapses though.
@okayunekomata7 ай бұрын
やっぱり中国人もjapan seaって言うだな まぁ東シナ海と名前被って紛らわしいからそりゃそうか
@victorlee88727 ай бұрын
@@okayunekomata Yes, 日本海is the standard name of that area in Chinese map. We don’t use the Korean “East Sea”, because there is another East Sea near Shanghai and Taiwan
@okayunekomata7 ай бұрын
ありがとう 黄海を西海と呼んでるのも個人的にはありえないと思ってる
@mrdiab32696 ай бұрын
in Russia there is a good phrase: "when the lobster whistles on the mountain" - this will never happen!🤣
@Yaroslav_Rus6 ай бұрын
лобстер?)
@mrdiab32696 ай бұрын
@@Yaroslav_Rus у меня просто есть подозрение, что большинство англоговорящих не знают, что есть такая штука, которая живёт в реках и похожа на лобстера )
@Yaroslav_Rus6 ай бұрын
@@mrdiab3269 да, скорее всего. Но звучит забавно)
@Esquire_Grin Жыл бұрын
Оформить безвиз между странами и строить туризм на базе важной для корейцев территории. Разумно и полезно для всех сторон
@elFulberto6 ай бұрын
Южная Корея это марионетка США. Если Россия отдаст ей часть своей земли, она просто получит очередную американскую военную базу на своей границе.
@jaidka5 ай бұрын
Noktundo will be very important in the future to create blockage on Tuman river, which has the critical geopolitical value for China to access Sea of Japan(East Sea). In 2024, China is trying to negotiate with North Korea and Russia to utilize Tuman river for the purpose. Yet, the river does not have enough water for ships to go through. edit: corrected unnatural words.
@long-history2 жыл бұрын
I think South Korea has offended Russia by exporting weapons to Poland
@Ahnn-y3p5 ай бұрын
Politics with Paint: South Korean wants a tiny piece of Russia. South Koreans: Wait.. What? We did?
@teethache2 жыл бұрын
녹둔도 영상을 한국유튜브가 아니라 외국유튜브에서 볼 줄은 몰랐네요. 사실 녹둔도는 영토로써의 가치 보다는 한국인들의 이순신에 대한 마음이 더 크기 때문에 그냥 녹둔도 자체를 이순신기념공원으로 만들어도 별 문제 없을 겁니다.
@tabbytaxi5 ай бұрын
그저 비석만 올려줘도 괜찮을듯 ㅋㅋ
@101보병-d7v5 ай бұрын
만약 기회가 온다면 되찾아와야겠죠
@teethache5 ай бұрын
@@101보병-d7v 200년전에 육지와 연결되어 섬이 아니게 되었는데 어느 정도의 사이즈인지 추정도 불가능한 그 아무 것도 없는 황무지를 되찾기 위해 영토분쟁이 일어날지 모르는 일을 일으킨다?? 뭐 중국이 두만강 끝자락을 차지해서 동해로 향하는 항구를 가지고 있는 상황이라 러시아와 직접적 연결이 되지 않는 상황이라고 하면 중요한 가치가 있겠지만 지나가는 통로외에 별 가치가 없는 땅을 위해 되찾자구요???
@101보병-d7v5 ай бұрын
@@teethache 영토분쟁을 하자고는 안했네요
@101보병-d7v5 ай бұрын
@@teethache 억측하신 것 같아요
@rdelrosso1973 Жыл бұрын
Hmmmm. Interesting piece of History. However, suppose Russia DOES give Noktundo Island to South Korea. And South Korea is STILL separated from Noktundo by NORTH Korea. Now, I hate North Korea, but it is hard to see how South Korea exercises any kind of control over the Island, with North Korea right next door! OTOH, Russia might give the Island to NORTH Korea!
@teetee43682 жыл бұрын
I’m Korean. we south Korea demand disputed land from Russia? When exactly? I personally haven’t heard about that issue.
@delinquente14442 жыл бұрын
Do you Koreans feel intimidated of Russia? They're a major power after all. Are you tentative of hostility with them?
@teetee43682 жыл бұрын
@@delinquente1444 well. If you think Russia is major power I don’t have any argument points with you. 😂
@s.p2483 Жыл бұрын
I'm Korean and never heard of this at all. We want Russian women not Russian land.
@TurboAutist-sg7lo2 жыл бұрын
The Sam o nella music in the background😭
@PoliticswithPaint2 жыл бұрын
One day he shall return
@TurboAutist-sg7lo2 жыл бұрын
@@PoliticswithPaint say the prayer once more brother😭🙏🏻
@No-mn9do2 жыл бұрын
@@TurboAutist-sg7lo he still exists, he's just simply called "bluejay" nowadays