Polyend Tracker vs Novation Circuit Rhythm

I compare the Novation Circuit Rhythm and Polyend Tracker, two self-contained sampler grooveboxes that operate with a tracker interface that is implemented fairly differently.
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00:00 Intro
00:23 Similarities
02:42 Build
04:04 Pads
05:12 Loading Samples
07:18 Workflow
13:00 Shaping Sounds
15:23 Synthesis
16:41 FX
17:49 Sidechain
20:12 Outro
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[@GabeMillerMusic]

To be clear, scrolling to notes/samples is not the only way to enter them on the Tracker, you can also scroll to the step, then select the corresponding pad (like I show at 10:27), which I actually have gotten a lot quicker at over the last couple of weeks!

[@thesuit4820]

Yeah, I reckon the Tracker would actually be faster to put in something like a 4-on-the-floor, you can just "fill down" to borrow the term from, uh, Excel. (One of the buttons at the bottom of the screen if memory serves - you can also fill down some randomness or syncopation using the FX slots on each step.)

[@oracularmusic]

Or live record :)

[@Polyend]

Hey Gabe, this is awesome. Thank you so much for making this!

[@skarryprankhunter]

Nice video! Keep with the comparation videos!

[@AashayDesai]

Amazing, I've been waiting for you to make this video! Still debating whether or not to add a Tracker to the mix...

[@BachelorMachinesTV]

Great video: helpful content, also the devices are well-lit and easy to see, and the audio is really good.

[@DeleswaProductions]

Awesome unbiased comparison Gabe. I believe both units can be inspiring and effective for making beats. I was intrigued by the workflow and features the tracker offers and decided to give it a try. Honestly, I could not be more satisfied. It not only quickly grows on you with its unique approach to music production, it is crazy fun to use. And you have all the tools you will need to make solid tracks from simple to highly complexed, Including self-generating beats using the random effects available. You also can throw a 256 gig micro SD loaded with the stock sounds and your personal collection of sound packs, to free yourself from being tethered to the computer. I simply love it. Beats coming very soon using it.

[@teabreakbeats]

I work with Excel spreadsheets as my day job, so this thing makes sense! I've only made one beat on it so far...

[@Erinm0re]

amazing.. was looking for some time, for the perfect groovebox, and now I think I found it :D as a Linux power user, I am quite comfortable with the CTL diving type interface the Tracker offers, and it just feels right at home. It offers everything I need and more. hope to get it for a good deal this black friday

[@electrobeats6449]

I would say that the performance mode on the tracker is very similar to the grid effects on the rhythm, in fact I think it’s a little deeper. Sure it needs setting up first, but you get a bunch of performance parameters and can select which tracks you want to apply them to. It can do all of the beat repeat, filtering, reverse etc tricks that you can do on the grid effects plus quite a bit more. Like you say, hardly a deal breaker or a reason alone to buy the device, but I think it’s a cool feature of the tracker so worth a mention. Nice comparison overall though. I hadn’t initially thought about just how much these things DO have in common, despite owning both.

[@galaxyofsynths]

Great video Gabe. I have a Circuit Tracks and a Tracker and personally find the latter more accessible somehow, less limiting, a more rounded piece of kit to produce pieces

[@josecortez5213]

The monophonic tracks sound really great. My sp1200 has a similar feature.

[@TheCuri]

Very good camparison well thought thruh and Feature rich

[@synth-studio]

Nice comparison Gabe. I find myself pitting these two against each other lately, with both having a dedicated focus on samples. I want so bad to love the Rhythm, but for me the main limit or of the Rhythm is that it’s one-step-per-sample is nice in theory, the track-level sample edits kinda kill that. The Tracker’s different take of having discrete ‘instrument’ parameters overcomes this for me. I also get lost a bit on the Rhythm without the screen… it’s hard to remember where I put what, especially if there’s multiple samples per track. To me,, the Tracker totally blows the comparison out of the water, validating it’s extra cost ;)

[@aikighost]

One pf the biggest selling points of the tracker that you don't cover here is the perfomance/live remixing mode, its deep and a lot of fun.

[@sponkerdahooman]

I’d prolly go for the polyend tracker, as there’s way more in terms of sound design.

[@EnochDark]

what if already have sounds designed on other gear but you just want to load all those sounds into one box to make things easier to sequence though?

[@ShaighJosephson]

Thanks for the comparison... I don't need portability...so this is helping to affirm that spending more for the Akai Force makes the most sense to get everything in one unit...

[@marcelocg]

I'm sure Akai Force is the Goliath here, but I think it's not like just "spending more"... It's price is a lot more than double the Tracker's price, isn't it?

[@electrobeats6449]

I've got the Force, the Tracker and the Rhythm at the mo (I know, I know...!!) They are all so different, despite the crossover. Re. the price comment above I was able to pick up a Force for not much more than a new Tracker... and it certainly does more (in built synths, arranger mode, polyphony etc). I am not sure it is as friendly to use though - sampling is certainly more long winded on the Force than the Tracker or rhythm. The Force is also so deep that it is easy to get lost - the other devices are more 'focused' because of limitations. For me the Rhythm is a drum machine at it's core, the tracker is great and more rounded for 'full tracks' (love song mode!!) - I think it would be perfect for me if the 8 mono tracks were polyphonic instead - but it does currently have limitations. The Force is a DAW in a box, and is virtually limitless (if you get on with the workflow), I love it, but I'm not sure I'd want to lose the Tracker either, also I don't think the Force does step sequencing as well as either of the other two.... I guess it's a nice problem to have... plenty of vids of all 3 on my channel if interested.

[@marcelocg]

@@electrobeats6449 nice analysis and point of view. Thanks for that. I have one concern about the Tracker: how easy would it be to sell it second hand if I decide to? At least here in Portugal there is no one on sale (second hand, I mean). I don’t know if people don’t even buy it or if they love it so much that nobody ever sells it!

[@electrobeats6449]

@@marcelocg it’s a good point and I’m not sure… I guess it’s a niche product to a degree but I suspect you’d be able to sell it if needs be. Hopefully you’d love it and never want to part with it anyway!! The other thing I love with both the Polyend and Novation is how interactive they are as a brands-via social media etc, and how frequently they update and support products. Akai has done a lot with the force… eventually, but feels more like the big corporation it is-the others feel like family!!

[@EnochDark]

I don't know how I missed this video but funny bc it was about a year ago when I finally gave up and canceled my pre-order on the Legowelt Tracker which of course showed up in stock within hours of my cancel forcing me to put even more thought into it. Aside from the 50% price difference what swayed me to the Rhythm was that the screen on the Tracker reminded me of work and making music is what I want to do when I am not at work. Also the bigger pads for my man hands seriously. Also never been a fan of big jog wheels coming from a Dr. Rhythm background...

[@noelbreitenbach8673]

I love your videos and will always watch them! Could you use the same samples on both devices? I know that’s a pain in the ass… just asking 😎

[@GabeMillerMusic]

Glad you're enjoying the videos! Both devices process sounds the same (although might have differences in how they pitch stuff around), but I'll definitely keep that in mind for future comparison videos.

[@SanplerVarondaro]

gracias saludos desde tijuana muy buen video

[@HamidG918]

Do you know of any up coming firmware updates for the circuit rhythm. I was thinking there would be support and updates but nothing....

[@pianoyan]

As a newcumber (02:02), I appreciate the shoutout. We newcumbers have been ignored for too long.

[@brainbox9219]

How in depth could you get with drum programming on the tracker? Thinking about getting one as an introduction to making electronic music, the set up for flexibility in workflow sold me but also, Im into straight experimenting, would be cool to have this and an analog synth 🎹

[@Sparks3D]

The Tracker is a full DAW that competes on the level of a MPC Live and gear in the $1000+ price range. The Circuit Rhythm is more of a beat making sampler/sequencer that is more comparable to a Roland SP-404 in the $400-$500. As far as your comparison though, you basically compared the entire Circuit Rhythm to one track on the Tracker, didn't show all the FX that can be added per step in 2 FX channels per step, rendering multiple steps/tracks down to one sample to free the track of steps, how the Tracker controls external gear, samples from the radio, plays NES games, song mode, performance mode, and the list goes on. I get that the pads are important because you like to finger drum, which in that case why not get full sized pads with a Beat step or Akai LPD8. I think you barely scratched the surface on how the Tracker can be used, but pretty much fully explained the Circuit Rhythm. Comparing the two is a stretch imo because the price difference isn't huge, which just shows how much further your money goes by investing in a full DAW compared to a performance sampler/beat maker. In fact I've seen iPad apps that could compete with the Circuit Rhythm on just about every feature you showed!

[@binarysun_]

I wouldn't compare the Tracker to the current line of MPCs. I have an MPC X and a Tracker and don't see that the Tracker compares a lot to the MPC at all. There is so much that the Tracker just cannot do that the MPC excels at. Especially when it comes to sound design and post-production. Also the flow of how you record your music into the divices is totally different imho. I more see the Tracker as a competition to devices like the Octatrack. The Tracker is a great companion to the MPC though even controlling parts/tracks of the MPC or Midi devices that are connected to the MPC. The Tracker is a great programmatic sequencer with some nice sampling features. The MPC is a fully fledged DAW where everything from a simple jam to mastering is possible.

[@Sparks3D]

@@binarysun_ I wouldn't agree that the Tracker isn't a DAW though. Even though you aren't listing specifically what the Tracker is missing Mastering/post-production, I would be sure to check out the latest firmware updates on the Tracker as they have added so much functionality since the launch. The MPC Live operates to me as a software DAW with a hardware shell and really you don't even need the hardware as it is just the same as having the MPC software on your laptop hooked up to a midi pad controller. Not trying to say Tracker is better than MPC Live or whatever, just making the point that if people want a full DAW in the $500 range that competes with setups in the $1000 range, be sure to give the Polyend Tracker a shot. This KZbinr obviously tried to give a surface-level comparison of the Tracker with something else for click bait, but should really take the time to deep-dive into the Tracker as it is a full DAW and not just a sequencer.

[@binarysun_]

@@Sparks3D Even though the Tracker technically has some things you need to create a Master (simple compressor - can you do glue compression though?, some basic filtering and an a simple EQ) I just don't see where it replaces a mastering chain (or even a modern mixing process). Is there a way to do parametric EQing per channel? Not just 5 fixed bands on the master and that EQ effect. But freely configurable to tackle the problematic frequencies in a track and the whole mix. Can you even change the Q of the 5 band master EQ? How do you control clipping without destroying your low-end? How do you control clipping at all on a fine level? How do you enhance/widen your sounds/tracks or the whole mix for that matter or just some single frequencies of a track? That "Space" dial on the master does not do it. The Tracker has a nice and configurable Limiter, okay. But that does not make it a Mastering tool. Don't get me wrong the Tracker is an awesome device. I have one and I love it. You can easily create whole tracks on this thing. And you probably can get a mix that can be mastered externally if the following things are assured: perfectly prepared samples which are at least compressed and EQd. And with EQing I mean in respect to all other samples used so that there is no overlapping frequencies that muddy the mix. But even then you just have a good mix and have not even started mastering - which is a whole different beast. If you don't expect your mix to sound clean and pump in a club, then just using the Tracker and nothing else is fine. The MPC has the almost full set of tools for it (some Metering like LUFS, Peak, Stereofield control, etc is missing). You can setup a perfectly good mastering bus (I wouldn't do it but the tools are there and there are even tutorials from mastering engineers on how to do it). The Tracker just does not have the necessary tools. I would go as far as to say that even a clean mix by modern standards is noting you should do on the Tracker alone but get the help of at least outboard gear or even a DAW. Since the Tracker has no individual outs either you could not even process individual tracks if you do not record each track in a separate DAW or multitrack recorder. The tracker is a world class Groovebox with an extremely well thought out sequencer and a really good sampling engine. This all makes it into a really nice instrument that I much prefer over the Elektron-boxes and most other Grooveboxes out there. It can arrange complete tracks and do some minor sound tweaks. But that's where it ends DAW-wise for me. The endgame of mixing and mastering is nothing to seriously consider imho if the only tool for the job is the Polyend Tracker. I would not even master on the MPC tbh just because the defecto standard of: pre-mix: tracking out each track as a waveform to a DAW, mix: gain stage, saturate, subtractive + additive parametric M/S + L/R EQ, compress, glue compress, side chain compress, etc pp and then master: give your clean mix to a real pro if you are not one...is so hard to beat. As a tip from me after mangling sounds for coming on 30 years now ... not everything is a nail, even if the only tool you have is a hammer. The Tracker is NOT the tool for the job.

[@Sparks3D]

@@binarysun_ You aren't going to get the same variety of tools you would get with software that can utilize things like VSTs. However, you can individually tweak each sound, each step, each channel, each FX and overall the Master. A couple resources to check out if you need some ideas on how to mix with the tracker check out kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJ6ahqited-Dg8k or the Polyend website. As far as individual outs, Yes, you can render Song, Song stems, Pattern, Pattern stems directly to the SD memory card. While rendering stems, the Tracker exports 8 mono track files, 2 send Fx (Delay, Reverb) mono track and the master stereo mix track. The master audio output is rendered into a single stereo file. Rendered stems are PCM .wav audio files with a sampling rate of 44100Hz/16bit. The volume of separate rendered stems files can be set in the Master 2/3 section. The rendered master track volume is being set in the Master 1/3 section and it's always rendered with the Limiter and its current values. Speaking on that, check out a Polyend video on tweaking a lot of what you are talking about kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5enc4dphbmHgas I'm not looking to argue or anything trying to compare the Tracker to the MPC software, they aren't equal competitors, and if you are serious about producing music for profit as your main job you will probably seek out a professional to do your Mastering who specializes in it. That being said, the tracker can tweak each sound individually and export in a variety of ways depending on how creative you are with arranging the sounds, patterns, song, etc. Does it have the same flexibility for mastering as some of the better VST plugins that the MPC software can use, not exactly. Just because the Tracker doesn't provide the latest/greatest plugins to make mastering easier doesn't mean it can't export what you need to do the mixing/mastering elsewhere if your track deserves it. I don't know how many people look at these standalone devices and think about fully producing a track for their label. I think most people just want the flexibility to produce musical ideas on the road, and then later give the idea to an actual engineer to see what is worth keeping/rerecording/replacing and have the whole track remixed/mastered based on the engineer's expertise.

[@binarysun_]

@@Sparks3D worry not. I am not thinking that we are fighting. Just different approaches. I am with you on most points. I just would not compare the two in a vs-Battle since the purpose of both while sharing similarities is different imho and the possibilities that an MPC has to offer in the post-department outweigh those of the PT by miles. The PT has a good basic feature set for post-stuff. And the PT compares more to an octatrack type device imho than any of the current MPCs. I would even say that the way you make music on both is totally different. At least for me. My MPC Workflow differs from that of the PT by 180degrees because I would never be able to make music like I do on the MPC and the PTs more algorithmic approach is something not found on the MPC. I would only compare them in those regards … how you make music with those and what the caveats of both are.

[@dudeseriously79]

Yep, I think I want both. Thank you for that great tutorial! :) I'm probably going to get a Digitakt instead though by way of finding a happy medium.

[@GabeMillerMusic]

Digitakt definitely feels like a happy medium. I did a review of that too in case it helps!

[@dudeseriously79]

@@GabeMillerMusic Yeah man! The new 1.50 update makes it all the more appealing too! You should do a video on that sometime.

[@davidcooke779]

It’s easy to criticize the Rhythm for having limited functionality but it’s extremely quick and simple to work with. I find it great for quickly experimenting with beats. I will say that I only really use it as a drum machine now.

[@GabeMillerMusic]

Yeah personally I really like it for its interface/user experience, but I also have to be objective about its capabilities so people know what they're getting.

[@philipbush9900]

Take notes Novation on sample packs per project. Also would've liked to see both devices in action with external gear

[@manti1923]

Could you do a Akai Live II video and compare to some of the other units you have used please

[@megahozer13]

Whenever a new synth is release I always say I wonder what Gabe Miller thinks and end up watching like 4 of your videos

[@hvhvgitaar]

Thanks for this comparison. I have the 2 Circuits. They are super powerful . However, the lack of any screen or other clear feedback on values of the macros or names of the patches/samples is a big issue for me. Once you have dialled in a good sound, based on some patch, it’s almost impossible to recreate it in another project without spending ages again. And you need to keep a notebook with the names of packs and their patches or samples unless you want to spend an eternity “blind browsing “. So after an initial burst of heavy use, they have now been in their boxes for months…

[@nungu60a]

I have a lot of gear unused bcuz of the points you raised. Thank you. I'll need it in live and studio applications for production ideas. Circuit is a pure Jamming tool. I know what to buy now.

[@Sparks3D]

I think this is a great point! Beat making devices like the Rhythm are cool in-the-moment devices when all you need to do with it is make a quick beat idea, record it with something else, and then completely forget about how you made it and what was assigned where. For serious music production though that rivals most DAWs, a Polyend Tracker is all you really need.

[@adamdoran235]

That's a good point, but somewhat of a solution would be the awesome Components, no? I have bought and sold 2 Digitakts because I got fed up with the sample file management system. I am loving the components app as a new Circuit Rhythm user, the ease with which you can drag and drop, name and arrange samples into groups to send to the device, or pull sounds and patched from the device is a breath of fresh air. Does it not function the same for patches on the Tracks? Like if you have a particular bass sound you have crafted you might want to use again, just launch components, pull the patch and save it for use again elsewhere? Would that not eliminate the need for the 'notebook' approach?

[@hdebbache2000]

A tracker is not just vertical compared to classic sequencing visual representation. On classic within a track, x dimension is time, y is instrument, and z is gate on/off. On tracker, x is inexistant within a track, y is time and z is sound/instrument. In classic you don't see the whole picture, you need to dive in a particular track to see what's going on. On a tracker the x dimension shows you all tracks. There are a bunch of differences, but saying it's the same but vertical is a bit wrong

[@dr.papadopolis7171]

I am curious how close the circuit rhythm gets to the new 404...?

[@noncomus]

Which pack are you using on the Rhythm? Those are pretty solid...

[@GabeMillerMusic]

Thanks! That's a mix of the $5 sample pack that I sell and samples from places like Splice.

[@_P_M_]

Interesting comparison. I really like the Rhythm. Very useful and fast to work with. The tracker is a lot smaller than I thought. I think I'd need my gasses on to read that screen.

[@itsmorphinetime]

Do you also plan to do a video on the M8? I recall someone mentioning you got one and would love to see your impressions on that

[@GabeMillerMusic]

Eventually! I have one in the studio, I've just been crazy busy with work and other projects I'm trying to finish first.

[@itsmorphinetime]

@@GabeMillerMusic Awesome! Totally understandable, and definitely looking forward to it =)

[@kyleguyettemusic]

"-and if I'm just sittng down to casually bang out a little DOODLE-"

[@hvhvgitaar]

Hi! You didn’t cover sample recording /slicing. Any chance of covering that later?

[@GabeMillerMusic]

Yeah I'll cover that in a dedicated Tracker review, and I covered it when I reviewed the Rhythm. At least as far as chopping goes, they're both pretty similar and self-explanatory.

[@SergeyCoder]

Polyend provides also “programming” music, not just playing it. You forget about FM-sampler & other sampling features in Polyend. It’s super flexible & portable DAW 🤘 Replaces MPC & notebook with DAW.

[@7177YT]

❤🧡💛

[@sandrodellisanti1139]

nice Video, but nothing for me personally.. i started with Tracker Music in late 1989 with Soundtracker and later with oktalyzer on my Amiga Computer..as for today Renoise..

[@thesuit4820]

I really want an Excel plugin to actually use it as a tracker...

[@teabreakbeats]

Here you go: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqCVe3yOfNSMsKM

[@BombstractGnome]

It’s literally took me 2 minutes to explain the circuit rhythm work flow to a 4 year old kid. “Sounds here” “when the sound plays here” This is a key factor. Simple work flow

[@GabeMillerMusic]

Yeah it's super intuitive! One of the main reasons I keep coming back to it.

[@SeanMayVids]

Thankfully, I'm not 4, so, maybe a more complex solution would be a better idea...

[@JM-yu8sb]

Fantastic production my man, but I must point out apples and pears are not the same fruit. One is a tracker the other is a step sequencer. Yeah okay similar in nature but not the same thing at all.

[@BenColemanUK]

I've got an original Circuit and new Circuit Tracks, plus the Polyend Tracker. I have to admit the Tracker is back in it's box and unused. I think the big thing you didn't cover is makeing a whole track. With the Circuit you can easily perform/jam with it on the fly, switching patterns, mutes, changing parameters etc. It's designed for performance. With the Tracker it's really designed for chaining patterns to make whole songs. And this process is painstaking IMO. It has some performance features, but they aren't very good, and without any knobs it's nearly impossible to do things on the fly. This is why I prefer the Circuit(s), but if you like spending a lot of time micro-programming chains of patterns into songs, the Tracker might be better for you

[@jvedra9041]

I’m exactly the opposite. I am so much faster on the tracker that I just can’t bother with the circuit. It’s fun for banging out stuff for funsies, but if I know what I wanna do, the tracker is insanely faster. I feel like the circuit is basically a large pocket operator- in a really good way.

[@leewightman8619]

I thought the polyend was polyphonic

[@mauchkimberly]

Generally I like your videos. However, I will say I'm a little disappointed with this one. The reason? You clearly have expertise with the circuit type format so obviously you're going to demonstrate that device masterfully. However, your presentation of the tracker wasn't entirely fair, as that machine is waaaaay less clunky to work with than this video would have it seem. Of course, it is different and needs to be approached differently. But it's much easier to work with than this video would indicate. And, related to having to make the samples into something first, you obviously prepare your samples in your daw before loading them into the rhythm. With the tracker you do it in the tracker instead. But that doesn't mean there are no "prepared" samples in the tracker. There are, if you've already made them (you could have made your samples ahead of time, including installed effects, and resampled those or prepared a program ahead of time so they would have been complete for the demonstration). It would have been far more interesting for you to compare the performance aspects of the tracker vs the performance aspects of the rhythm. The rhythm is primarily a performance device,, while the tracker has far more sound design features, but does have performance feature too (which you didn't spend much time with). That would have been useful to see demonstrated. In the future, I would love to see you partner up with another creator for a video like this (one who's as masterful with the alternate device as you are with the circuit format). Just my 2 cents. Thanks for the effort.

[@BIG1TOWER]

I’ll take the tracker any day over the circuit

[@foolishness6261]

I own both of these. the lack of a screen on the Circuit Rhythm is absolutely disastrous. All that power locked behind colour coded pads? Rhythm has 15 different views (or modes): good luck remembering what (for example) two adjacent lilac coloured pads mean when you are in Probability View, or Sample View. Each track is a different colour: track six is pale green, for instance. Track three is purple.Jeez, who makes colour coding such a vital part of the core process of anything, ever?! The learning ramp for Rhythm is monstrous. You'll have the manual open constantly because it is IMPOSSIBLE to intuitively figure out and apply any of the dozens of advanced techniques. And the manual must be in colour; if you are colour blind, forget it.

[@drowsyspook3455]

Novation propaganda

[@GabeMillerMusic]

I hope it doesn't come off like that. I like Novation stuff a lot, but I did my best to check my bias at the door, and to be very clear, they had no involvement in this video whatsoever.

[@drowsyspook3455]

@@GabeMillerMusic don't worry man im just joking

[@GabeMillerMusic]

Haha all good. I mostly reply to comments like this to clear stuff up for anyone else who might be scrolling through. I always want to be very clear about where I'm coming from in terms of opinions.

[@MARS_118]

I hate the Workflow of the Tracker - No Fun at all.

[@sakkemakke]

Completely the opposite for me. Had og Circuit for a year. It was fast alright, but doing anything other than finger drumming/slapping simple sound items into a sequence, it was an end game. Tracker on the other hand serves as an endless possibilities with reasonable restrictions, which makes me dive deep into micro editing and polishing on the fly. And becaus of only 8 tracks, it makes me think always that ’less is more’. And that’s fun for me - making desicions based on restrictions. Like it has been decades before ’buy this and get xxxx patches and scroll your options and ready made loops from pack zzzz and use daw yyyy however you want - and find yourself in a maze of options. The Auto-fill, fx lanes and playing with chances and 16 midi tracks and sample editing (while still a bit crippled) gives a lot flexibility, yet not too much. Oh and I forgot granular and wavetable stuff. Timestertching with granular works great also. And song mode? Never felt easier. And performance mode - just hoping you could record performance somehow straight to patterns. The only downside is that it doesn’t comply stereo at all. But I can live with it, because Tracker has taken me back to where it all started 27 years ago - fun, happy accidents and straightforwardness. The again, apples and oranges. I can see why some would prefer Circuit over Tracker. It has never been which is better than what works ’for you’! ✌🏻

[@MARS_118]

@@sakkemakke Didn´t want to say that i like the Tracker over the Circuit , i am just a frustrated Tracker user and think i personally found my holy grail with the Korg Electribe 2. Anyway , the Tracker has some serious and disappointing design flaws: No direct Edit of Samples on SD Card , No direct SD file Access over USB (too damn slow and developed for FW Upgrades) , 16bit pcm .Wav samples only. Why do you need to switch to the (Red) Record mode to create a pattern Why do you need a Crop Button to save a sample length , everybody confuses that with the Save button The whole stiff workflow , where you chose a sample , tweak them , and when you change the sample all tewaks and parameter are gone , kills the fun completly. What about the build quality , my one has a bended back and a wobbly big knob out of the Box , and according to the reviews on the common resellers , i am not the only one. I don´t get it , they should start to improve it instead of releasing games for the Tracker.

[@jvedra9041]

@@MARS_118 you can now save instruments for later in the tracker. If you put in work tweaking a sample, you can just save it and recall it later

[@MARS_118]

@@jvedra9041 Thats good i guess, but as long i can´t edit saved samples on the MicroSD , i will leave the Tracker on the stack with synths and devices i don´t like.