This is an excerpt from a longer video on my channel. Check the description for the link!
@jan-seli Жыл бұрын
The description appears empty to me
@doggyinthewindow Жыл бұрын
it's not there.... cmonnn
@sfrancev.m7343 Жыл бұрын
Or you could have just put it on your comment. . .
@notkarengt3109 Жыл бұрын
A nonexistent description 😂
@the_emmo Жыл бұрын
I can't find the whole video 😢
@dondovahkiin7899 Жыл бұрын
"I call this piece... fly on your nose at 3 AM"
@solomonstello Жыл бұрын
I can't sleep.
@DCTheComic10 ай бұрын
Oh my goodness 😂😂
@xxsigmawolfxx8 ай бұрын
🏆
@Serrot3047 ай бұрын
I read this just as the clip played🤣🤣
@ElizeNicole1015 ай бұрын
Why is this so accurate 😂😂😂
@k0valus585 Жыл бұрын
"You're the worst jazz musician I've ever heard of." "Ah, but you have heard of me!"
@StudMacher963 ай бұрын
And I half expected your sax to be made of wood.
@forbandkind093 ай бұрын
@@StudMacher96Yes, only the reed is metal.
@Professor__S3 ай бұрын
Most jazz players: hey Jack, you got to try playing on heroin. Coleman: you guys never tried amphetamines I take it?..😂
@StudMacher963 ай бұрын
@@forbandkind09 bro it’s a reference to pirates of the Caribbean genius
@owenpeck48572 ай бұрын
Their opinions don't matter as long as they say your name.
@Mr_Boifriend Жыл бұрын
They said it was "free jazz", yet i had to pay $15 for a ticket
@filipedias7284 Жыл бұрын
Nah mane you didn't just make that joke
@YoungPadawan85 Жыл бұрын
free form jazz
@josephlamar9679 Жыл бұрын
🥁 😂
@geronimogerardot Жыл бұрын
Hadn't heard that one. Thank you, I will add that to my dad joke repertoire. Not all heroes wear capes, unless you do, then carry on.
@jestfullgremblim8002 Жыл бұрын
Leave. I'll show you the door.
@TheWorld_20992 ай бұрын
And that’s why “the shape of jazz to come” is the PERFECT album title. He knew people would eventually catch on.
@David.77Ай бұрын
Perhaps not by the greater jazz scene, but to some it's perfect
@renzocourt6126Ай бұрын
Genius
@Dawnbreakerr23 күн бұрын
It's just bad. Like it's bad jazz. I know I know saying what is and isn't good jazz is the lowest form of conversation, but that little snippet the short played just sounded terrible. It sounded like he had no rhythm or soul or groove.
@joseflindsey226020 күн бұрын
Exactly 💯
@joseflindsey226020 күн бұрын
@@Dawnbreakerrhe’s playing off-rhythm improv. Not everyone is ready to hear this kind of Jazz. Just saying it is bad without fully sampling what it is doesn’t mean anything. Esp when one is talking about Jazz music, in which brilliantly creative improvisation is king. Coleman was doing exactly what an evolving Jazz musician should do- push the boundaries of what qualifies as Jazz sound and style coming out of the instrument the musician is playing to produce that Jazz music. Otherwise you just get a field of artists all imitating the same styles over and over again. The exact problem with a lot of modern HIPHOP.
@imtoddhowardandimadeskyrim6553 Жыл бұрын
Man literally named his album 'the shape of jazz to come' and then ended up being correct, fucking legend
@CornOnTheCobraSM6 ай бұрын
He wanted to name it Focus on Sanity, actually. Oc plays harmolodics, not jazz.
@paddgintongbareall58276 ай бұрын
Not even close to correct...Acid, and Funk Jazz, took over.
@cweakley6 ай бұрын
The shape of things that came and went.
@jackiboi30755 ай бұрын
@@paddgintongbareall5827you're denying the explosion of free jazz?
@jiannisDimi5 ай бұрын
the shape of things to come and never go away... If i compare Charlie Parking, with Cornetto Coleman, or Schock Corea with Billy the kid (Evans). they are all the same.... unreachable...
@gcvibe Жыл бұрын
"all screwed up inside" by Miles Davis is actually a pretty good compliment
@mytandasouder4485 Жыл бұрын
Great name for a song as well.
@clev7989 Жыл бұрын
Why is that :o
@heitorborges3353 Жыл бұрын
Why? (I Dont know nothing about jazz)
@tomislavplaysguitar Жыл бұрын
@@clev7989Cuz Miles Davis' music was also deranged. Look at his Album Aura for example. Most normal listeners would be shocked at how anyone would call that music.
@clev7989 Жыл бұрын
@@tomislavplaysguitar thank you for the explanation!
@BeeBwakka Жыл бұрын
If your playing makes people literally want to destroy your instrument, you must be doing something notable
@graham.broome Жыл бұрын
for real, he must have never felt more sure of himself
@HonestSaxSound-unEdited- Жыл бұрын
Something like dementia or similar!😅😅
@JimsyFlimsy Жыл бұрын
Shit I'd wear it like a badge of honor.
@julianmedrano882 Жыл бұрын
You're*
@herrbonk3635 Жыл бұрын
Notable is not the same as good.
@selalewis9189 Жыл бұрын
On occasion I like to listen to Ornette Coleman, Alice Coltrane, and Pharoah Sanders. They’re like punk rock for jazz heads.
@klinkov6393 Жыл бұрын
My uncle talks very highly of pharoah sanders but ive never checked out any of his music do you have any recs for albums?
@hedlosa9574 Жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, through this short I realised that Refused "the shape of punk to come" album was inspired by this, which is pretty cool.
@dhiguera13 Жыл бұрын
@@klinkov6393karma, thembi, and tauhid are his best records in my opinion…
@alexandersharp7622 Жыл бұрын
@@klinkov6393 karma is magic
@Ok-tl1dv Жыл бұрын
@@klinkov6393 his best album is ”karma” from 1968. It’s a must listen
@basspowerof62 ай бұрын
That cat was a pioneer to say the least. He inspired as many as he pissed off.
@LucasIsHereYT Жыл бұрын
"Jazz is all about improvisation!" [improvises] "Hey, you're doing it wrong!"
@herrbonk3635 Жыл бұрын
Improvisation is not the same as random playing...
@swissarmyknight43063 ай бұрын
@@herrbonk3635 He's just improvising too well for your crap ears.
@2FortTouristАй бұрын
@@swissarmyknight4306 Music sounds different to everyone, man. If he doesn't like a guy's jazz, then he doesn't like it.
@TheMr.L01 Жыл бұрын
A solid way of pissing off jazz fans is saying "Oh hey this sounds like Persona music."
@ColorMeHoppy Жыл бұрын
Persona and jazz fan master race 🎷🎺
@nick_phi11ips Жыл бұрын
or by saying "this sounds like elevator music" (usually to bossa nova)
@bcj842 Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@doofs Жыл бұрын
@@nick_phi11ips shout out to my father for doing literally that with jazz fusion
@thevisitor1012 Жыл бұрын
In other words Jazz funk?
@dancegregorydance6933 Жыл бұрын
It’s funny but jazz fans can be just as big of gate-keepers as punks and metalheads.
@FunkadelicPancho Жыл бұрын
They're usually worse
@jones848 Жыл бұрын
This is not something new, they're usually the most pretentious ones
@lordjzargo7940 Жыл бұрын
Wym, they're the OG gatekeepers
@Mr_Bunk Жыл бұрын
@@TheJargonKing Don’t invoke Godwin’s law so early in the conversation.
@theothertonydutch Жыл бұрын
Jazz invented gatekeeping to cope with the gatekeeping of classical music.
@kemsat-n6h Жыл бұрын
Imagine being offended by music & assaulting the musician & their instrument. That’s it. Just imagine being that maladjusted.
@ValdemarDeMatos Жыл бұрын
Art saints, martyrs of their own devotion.
@wtwrush Жыл бұрын
It was the 50s, I’m sure race had something to do with it as well
@DariusGheghesan Жыл бұрын
@@wtwrush weren't many jazz greats black?
@kemsat-n6h Жыл бұрын
@@DariusGheghesan yeah, African Americans basically invented all American music. Blues, Jazz, Rock & Roll, R&B, Rap & Hip hop.
@mokomothman5713 Жыл бұрын
@@DariusGheghesan Yeah, but don't tell this idiot.
@theguyshetellsunottoworryaboutАй бұрын
My man was too jazzy for jazz itself
@TheRealG20243 ай бұрын
Never been into him but i sure as hell respect his bravery and sticking to his vision.
@roblaaa1845 Жыл бұрын
the thought of jazz fans assaulting a saxophonist backstage for improvising jazz is so funny. i imagine them hitting him with bags and screaming "YOU ARE NOT PLAYING IT PROPERLY"
@somenothing79147 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@am_Nein7 ай бұрын
And I always thought jazz was more laidback than a lot of other genres 😭
@ALLFORONE54 ай бұрын
“WERE YOU RUSHING OR WERE YOU DRAGGING?”
@Goku17yen3 ай бұрын
@@ALLFORONE5omni man
@Greatduck777Ай бұрын
Just teach him to play the damn thing
@hypecloud8241 Жыл бұрын
if you really want to piss off jazz fans, play the 4th of every chord while soloing 💀
@EvanWiederandersMusic Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip! My playing sounds much better now :)
@jonathanveenker6981 Жыл бұрын
McCoy Tyner made a career out of doing exactly that
@koalabear4964 Жыл бұрын
Honestly most of us would dig it if you’re doing it right. Making everything a sus 4 was the new hot shit for jazz in the 60’s. Even now all that pentatonic language is still hip and exciting. Only ones pissed would be the guys who couldn’t hang or old cats that are sick of hearing it.
@crnkmnky Жыл бұрын
@@jonathanveenker6981 I just saw a Rick Beato video where he mentioned talking to Keith Jarrett about that. I don't know theory, so it's meaningless to me… 🤷🏿♀️
@maxten Жыл бұрын
Chords only apply to piano and stringed instruments.
@CVinyl Жыл бұрын
Ornette Coleman was my close friend & mentor in Jazz 🎷 He is deeply missed.....
@dayshawna Жыл бұрын
i am sorry for your loss, best wishes ❤ i enjoy jazz but don't know many musicians so i just recently found out about him.
@Ronam0451 Жыл бұрын
Sure
@Hello_there_obi Жыл бұрын
Suuuureee
@drmodestoesq Жыл бұрын
Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrreeeeee......
@Emile.gorgonZola Жыл бұрын
proof?
@QuoBoat3 ай бұрын
I love that it's called "the shape of jazz to come" and that's how a lot of jazz sounds now, a real visionary
@The_Defiant_One28 күн бұрын
_"You have to listen to the notes he's not playing"_ *I could do that at home*
@Vladimir_Lemon Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, Free Jazz
@Mr_Boifriend Жыл бұрын
They said it was "free jazz", yet i had to pay $15 for a ticket
@YoungPadawan85 Жыл бұрын
free form jazz
@sillypinkmoth Жыл бұрын
@Mr_Boifriend if you walk down the hallway and to the right you'll find this same reply except it's a comment
@xxczerxx Жыл бұрын
I always think Ornette Coleman as what non-jazz fans think jazz is. Just a flurry of seemingly random notes.
@mareksicinski3726 Жыл бұрын
i mean it can work, but ppl hear the difference it is quoted at times in jazz
@QuadriviumNumbers Жыл бұрын
I think the same my friend! I'm sure it's quite true for the most part.
@cinnastag Жыл бұрын
It's correct when it's scat music...but he tried to play note scat, which does not work and pretty much just destroys what Jazz is, since it doesn't follow swing tempo
@tysfalsehood Жыл бұрын
@@cinnastag I'm confused - what does swing tempo have to do with the notes being played? Since when is Jazz solely confined by that anyways? Are we really saying what Coleman did didn't work in 2023 lmao
@ccshumshum8104 Жыл бұрын
thats why they dont like jazz
@MarkArandjus Жыл бұрын
If you want to piss jazz fans off, just call basic stuff brilliant. They HATE it 😊 EDIT: the amount of people taking my comments way too seriously is amazing :D
@nicholaswise5818 Жыл бұрын
Basic as in count basie/early swing stuff, or basic as in kenny Gorelick? There is a big difference. I've never met a jazz musician worth anything that doesn't think basie or ben webster or anyone like that isn't brilliant.
@MarkArandjus Жыл бұрын
@@nicholaswise5818 Nah, man, nah. I'm talking about 4/4 with the I-V-vi-IV progression and a generic verse/chous type structure. Put a jazz snob and a Swifty in a room together and there will be blood 😄
@anon8740 Жыл бұрын
Eh I think everyone goes through some sort of "my thing is the best thing! I hate that other stuff!" phase, whether it's music, art, literature, food, sports, or whatever else. While it can be a pain to deal with snobs of any stripe, most people manage to grow out of it eventually.
@madhavraghu Жыл бұрын
@@MarkArandjusbaby now they got baad blood
@ObjectorSnark Жыл бұрын
"when kenny g solos over louis armstrong's 'what a wonderful world'...ahh, it doesn't get any better than than, eh?"
@thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852 Жыл бұрын
dude caught a bee in a cup and called it jazz.
@MersitonTheGood10 ай бұрын
Facts 🗣️🔥🔥‼️‼️
@locrianphantom35473 ай бұрын
“Do you like jazz?”
@Greatduck777Ай бұрын
Bro put a bee up to the saxophone and said “do you like jazz?” And everyone wanted him dead
@DanReyesBКүн бұрын
Ah yes, _Drunk Mosquito_ is one of my favorite pieces.
@isaacyoder4137 Жыл бұрын
As a metalhead, I point to jazz as an earlier example of what happened to metal. 1) New style of music, seen as "too outrageous, uncivilized, wild, grating on the ears" to be taken seriously. 2) Young kids pursue it despite the social backlash, and come to love it for its underground vibe, acquired taste, and rebellious nature. 3) Over time it becomes more normal to hear, it gets less hate and more people start to show up, often playing it way better than the people early to the scene. 4) New people start playing it freely, not as anything rebellious or like they're persecuted for it, but just for a pure love of its sound, unlike the first people who got into it. 5) Old fans resent the new fans for acting like all of the old stigmas don't matter anymore, cause the OGs have their identity in the music tied with its hostile social reception it originally had. So they make up bs criteria and nitpick any new music that doesn't sound exactly like their 30 year old records to call it "not real jazz/metal", and anything that does sound like said records is a copycat and unoriginal. Seriously, the phrase "I don't like this new stuff, cause this band is too young" is a legitimate reason to gatekeep shit that hits way harder than anything the old fucks who say that had when they were green to the scene. A genre literally defined by playing music that breaks the rules all of a sudden has to have rules to keep it pure apparently, as if it being a "dirty" kind of music isn't what made it special in the first place. All you hip hop fans need to watch out. Your genre's even fresher than metal but it's getting whitewashed and sterilized to shit too. I just hope they don't start creating metal programs in colleges like they did jazz, but even metal screams are getting rigorously studied now and becoming a more formal skill. Trial and error DIY vocals are what make every screamer sound really unique, and makes a voice feel personal and not like a singer who just took a bunch of voice lessons and had a marketing team write lyrics. They took jazz and forced it into a formalized box of do's and don'ts, and now the whole fanbase is critical of anyone who plays it. There's still a lot of metal fans that just happily vibe with whatever they hear, and it needs to stay that way. Man I hate gatekeepers. All they do is ruin something good.
@boslyporshy6553 Жыл бұрын
Is the cycle a hobby to an art to a science back to a hobby?
@ThePsychicFish Жыл бұрын
Very well put. This can apply to trends outside of music too. I.e. fashion, film, comics, video games, etc. Just look at the decline of the arcade racing video game subgenre.
@mareksicinski3726 Жыл бұрын
4) eh not so clear, a lot of it is also for commercial etc reasons
@samuelwaller4924 Жыл бұрын
man, now people are gatekeeping gatekeeping? what has this world come to smh
@Jo3M Жыл бұрын
Sounds like your gatekeeping scream technique 😂
@VegasA3 Жыл бұрын
To be fair if I went to my local night club and the DJ wailed like Yoko Ono for 30 minutes over a breakbeat I’d be kinda pissed too
@x_VineM_x Жыл бұрын
I'd be pissed if they didnt have merch lol
@bluberrykush3912 Жыл бұрын
@@x_VineM_x i feel some chaotic energy here and I like it
@DaMonster Жыл бұрын
@@x_VineM_x 100%
@gaiusjuliuscaesar9296 Жыл бұрын
People often forget that you have to actually buy a very expensive ticket to a show
@Jah_Rastafari_ORIG Жыл бұрын
Back in '69, I used to play the B side of Cold Turkey (Don't Worry Kyoko) @ 16rpm, pretending it was a cow, slowly dying. I shortly came to fully appreciate it after getting into Captain Beefheart and (much later) Public Image Limited. Ornett's always been in that same niche for me...
@rivereuphrates8103 Жыл бұрын
Shape of Jazz to Come was a revelation. Still astonishing to listen to today.
@spongebobfann4x7 ай бұрын
irl squidward
@dfunkmale Жыл бұрын
"All screwed up inside???" Miles is one to talk.
@cali22boi Жыл бұрын
He has plenty of room to talk. Also, the context came from a Downbeat interview in the 1960s. Contextually, Miles didn't listen to music in his genre. By 1968, his last blindfold test, the year which he began to regularly record utilizing the Fender Rhodes and Fender bass, he was observed to only having records by The Byrds, Dionne Warwick, James Brown, Fifth Dimension, Tony Bennett and Aretha Franklin. Miles had lost interest in anything that was considered to be called "jazz".
@robertlepper5460 Жыл бұрын
@cali22boi Miles wanted to make of money from the white rock audience.
@cali22boi Жыл бұрын
@@robertlepper5460 not necessarily true. Yes, he wanted to make money, the music he was making particularly between 1969 and 1970 leaned towards the "whiter" rock audience, however, this shifted in 1971, as he was after "blacker" audience, shifting towards funkier music. Ultimately, his music, and release of his albums during 1969 to 1974 didn't keep up with what he was doing during live performances, which left his audiences 'lost'
@LowReedExpert1 Жыл бұрын
Are we just gonna ignore Miles throwing stones from his glass house with tunes like bitches brew?
@Vingul Жыл бұрын
That was way later.
@heidiheidiho6412 Жыл бұрын
What @Vingul said.
@davidbaise5137 Жыл бұрын
Come on, BB is way cool.
@heidiheidiho6412 Жыл бұрын
@@davidbaise5137if there ever is a space ship leaving the Earth for another planet, and one of the conditions for being accepted aboard is you can bring only ONE album with you, the album I'd bring is Bitches Brew.
@TheNinja94a Жыл бұрын
@@heidiheidiho6412 Got that shit on vinyl, feel the same way
@PearceVaughn Жыл бұрын
As a saxophonist and all-around musician, I have a lot of respect for the role that Coleman played in the advancement of the art form - he played a very similar role to what Schoenberg and Charles Ives were for the early 20th century classical music sphere. At the same time, I have never found enjoyment in any recording of his that I've EVER forced myself to listen to. If people had actually wanted to listen to that shit, he'd be getting imitated a hell of a lot more today. People practice playing like Bird, Trane, Brecker, Potter, Redman, Washington, etc. because it's coherent. Coleman makes Coltrane's peak spirituality days comparatively feel like a sunny walk in the park.
@herrbonk3635 Жыл бұрын
So why do you feel respect, if you don't like it? Is change and "advancement" a goal in itself, regardless of that it is? Schönbergs music was enjoyable, while this guy was annoying. That's not similar :)
@ThePsychicFish Жыл бұрын
@@herrbonk3635 I don't know shit about jazz but I find it interesting how this guy is still dividing people all these years later
@herrbonk3635 Жыл бұрын
@@ThePsychicFish Well, people choosing to pretend a naked emperor has nice clothes will always provoke more honest people, for good reason.
@WalterKlemmerPiano Жыл бұрын
@@herrbonk3635To you he is annoying, I LOVE his music. And Schoenberg's. Listen to "what reason could I give" it's so weird yet really touching and emotional. How does it even work?? Most of his other stuff (not the 80's harmelodic funk) feels really heavy and chaotic to me, which are elements I enjoy in music. It feels like the equivalent of Grindcore in Jazz.
@mikelittlebells Жыл бұрын
@@WalterKlemmerPianoGrindcore in Jazz? My man…just wait till you hear about John Zorn
@stevewhite854325 күн бұрын
Long live Ornette Coleman and his fantastic music! Saw him three times live, his band was always outstanding just like him.
@wellesradio7 ай бұрын
Ornette was also recorded a concert with Yoko Ono. John Lennon wasn’t even around. Honestly, after listening to it, I think it’s the kind of musicians she needed around her rather than the clumsy rock jams Lennon was trying to make with her.
@AnthonyGargini Жыл бұрын
The clip you just played is way more melodic than most of his stuff
@AC-hj9tv Жыл бұрын
Big yikes
@Icemario8710 ай бұрын
this is the comment i came for
@LEMOnBRaINn8 ай бұрын
@@AC-hj9tvbig cringe stop saying yikes are you a soccer grandma
@AC-hj9tv8 ай бұрын
@@LEMOnBRaINn nah just the guy banging the soccer GILFs
@susboi98046 ай бұрын
Yike mf@@LEMOnBRaINn
@cryovizard9461 Жыл бұрын
Stravinsky moment for jazz
@DrinkWater7132 ай бұрын
Except that Stravinsky can't give you hearing loss
@cryovizard94612 ай бұрын
@@DrinkWater713 He can startle you in a concert hall when you fall asleep though and give you a heart attack
@danielperales39582 ай бұрын
except Stravinsky knew how to make real music which was (and is to this day) more meaningful in all music scene of the late 20th century and not just random notes being thrown at a mic. Not even close, buddy.
@shmeee3636Ай бұрын
you are such a loser daniel
@NotFine9 күн бұрын
@@danielperales3958yes because Coleman's music was random notes. Dude, this is just blatant dismissal because YOU don't like it.
@WuffDerg Жыл бұрын
When the mosquito taunts me for being unable to smack it: (edit: eeeeeyyyyyy 69 likes! Nice!)
@themac6356 Жыл бұрын
Also see: “Cats when their owners look away from them for 0.5 femtoseconds”
@WuffDerg Жыл бұрын
@@themac6356 as well as the moment you shut your eyes to go to bed
@laciuna66002 ай бұрын
If that one mosquito humming in your ear was a saxophonist 💀
@bboyramen2 ай бұрын
"Wow poor guy, cant be that bad right?" It was tolerable, basically Free Jazz
@nikguimont8546 Жыл бұрын
In art if people are mad at you for little things you are doing something right
@ianjohnson2193 Жыл бұрын
In any musical genre, Jazz let’s say, you occasionally need someone to come in and punch everybody in the face. Miles Davis didn’t change the tone, it was Ornette Coleman and John Coltrane. To paraphrase Flying Lotus, they disrupted the flavor.
@ObjectorSnark Жыл бұрын
he played a plastic pakistani-import saxophone on purpose because of how dry and nasal and piercing the tone was. you know guys who had been perfecting their pure, warm, mellow brass and reed tones for the last 40 years had bloody murder in their ears when he hit them upside the head with that
@jamesbarnes4182 Жыл бұрын
I knew him i played music with him. He was a genius!!
@kukachoo422 ай бұрын
love that thing when theres a musician few casual music listeners know about and all contemporary musicians hated but they basically did a beloved genre 15-20 years before its time. same w visual art and literature too.
@TheJesselopez19814 ай бұрын
Moral of the story. Toxic, gatekeeping fanbases have always been around and have always been wrong.
@davidhowell5585 Жыл бұрын
Coleman swung the door wide open for avant gaurde musicians across all mainstream music. It's likely we would never have had Frank Zappa or Captain Beefheart without him. Legend!
@drmodestoesq Жыл бұрын
So we have that to blame him for as well....
@osbornvonpulaski1642 Жыл бұрын
@@drmodestoesq “blame“ for influencing Zappa is a bad thing? Please expand on that comment.
@bill383710 ай бұрын
Ask it to me. It was trained who was such a well-established musician to play changes. Is that open the door up towards free jazz and then retrospect that would be due to Miles Davis?
@maximilianogabriel998210 ай бұрын
Velvet underground.lou Reed
@DrinkWater7132 ай бұрын
@@osbornvonpulaski1642Zappa's music is ugly and annoying. Explained
@danieljosephgarcia Жыл бұрын
“Lonely Woman” is one of my favorite pieces. Powerful and wide in its message. Confusing and complex as the concept. Radical avant-garde artist for sure
@adamcrary16023 ай бұрын
Hell yes! Lonely Woman is AS important as any other great jazz composition. Even the Modern Jazz Quartet played it( pinnacle of straight jazz that they were) and named a whole lp after it. Pat Metheny has a gorgeous version on one of his earlier lps.. i wanna say Rejoicing( w Charlie Haden n Billy Higgins).. people are off their friggin’ but if they don’t recognize Ornette as a great composer. He’s not Duke Ellington.. he’s Ornette friggin’ Coleman! and if he only wrote “ Lonely Woman” it would be enough to cement his reputation in jazz for all time, imho. Thank you! Good call.
@vin-cc9nk Жыл бұрын
he sounds like hes having fun
@sea4our2 ай бұрын
i've always admired this dudes ability to "color outside the lines".
@BlareWolfgang Жыл бұрын
I don’t listen to a lot of jazz, but beating someone up and getting mad about how the jazz sounds is the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard
@SMCwasTakenКүн бұрын
This ^^^ Imagine traumatizing someone's life and destroying what's essentially his partner over a difference in music taste
@seanmcdonald46868 ай бұрын
And here I thought jazz fans were just naturally always pissed off.
@michaelsin1968 Жыл бұрын
i think guys like ornette were simply outgrowths/reactions to the rigid structures and tonalities of bebop. ornette could play bebop, but he chose to follow his ears, and i'm certainly thankful for it!
@ObjectorSnark Жыл бұрын
traditional (prewar) jazz was the buttoned-up formal stuff, bebop was looser and more improvisational-it's what the cats would play against each other late into the night after the evening gigs at birdland. eventually you got thelonius monk whose melodic style came from attempting to play "the notes between the keys" and eventually coleman found a way to get there
@antoniolopes87764 ай бұрын
This style of jazz is now classical music. Time flies...
@EmuBrew2 ай бұрын
First we must aquire a taste for "free form jazz" - Patrick Star
@besmus4983 Жыл бұрын
This sounds exactly what i thought jazz sounds like as a kid 😂
@tylercohle2780 Жыл бұрын
there's a special place in for the people who assault a musician & destroy his instrument!
@drmodestoesq Жыл бұрын
In heaven? You think God hates discordant, non-melodic cacophonous noise as well? Well, you could be right.
@yiiihaaa___9139 Жыл бұрын
@@drmodestoesq you think it's ok to assault a guy because you don't like his music ? Although I'm an atheist, I'm pretty sure no God would say that's a good thing
@HonestSaxSound-unEdited- Жыл бұрын
@@yiiihaaa___9139 for God all has a perfect order and sense.. this cacofonic noise has not sense and lead to bad ways and loose lives😊
@graham.broome Жыл бұрын
@@drmodestoesq LOL the ornette haters are still alive. just like the shit he said in the video, simple minded people like you not understanding ornette and getting this mad about it just solidifies his art
@shardrygd7 ай бұрын
@@HonestSaxSound-unEdited-excuse me for my poor English, but stop saying nonsense, please. Even in this kind of music there is beauty, emotion. This is art.
@lumorowenamooncaller9811 Жыл бұрын
That man was SHREDDING
@luceroenriquez11933 ай бұрын
The thing is Coleman was ahead of its time. His improvising skills were AWESOME. Some ppl may think he was just playing gibberish but dude... I wanna hear em try playing like him...
@josephmamah41247 ай бұрын
“Once you free yourself from the idea of harmony and music being correct you can do whatever you want” -Giorgio Moroder
@jacoboreyes3160 Жыл бұрын
Kind of shred metal and punky. I like it
@fivemagics18 Жыл бұрын
That sax playing was badass
@Nedwardnudgent Жыл бұрын
when miles davis tells you YOU'RE all messed up inside.
@sonnyserna244 ай бұрын
“He knows no rules. No boundaries. He doesn’t flinch at torture, human trafficking, or genocide.”
@BigParadoxАй бұрын
When I was young, I listened a lot to traditional jazz. Then one day, incidentally, I happened to listen to some "free jazz" by Swedish musician Bernt Rosengren and his friends. They played a piece by Ornette Coleman, "The Jungle Is A Skyscraper". From that day on, I was sold on this kind of music.
@markwestervelt9708 Жыл бұрын
He sounded like the yoko ono of jazz
@SimoTheSergal6 ай бұрын
I call this piece, "how a seizure looks and feels like, but as sounds."
@poison7512 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes. Jazz. Where the object is to make the music as unpleasant aounding as possible.
@shardrygd7 ай бұрын
If jazz is unpleasant to your ears, then I guess you've never heard extreme metal/noise sub genres 😂
@LouisLopez-s3j2 ай бұрын
Yes, I call this song “that one mosquito in your room at 3 AM”
@theAmazingJunkman17 күн бұрын
This man was decades ahead of his time
@vladimirvikentije5202 Жыл бұрын
Man played the flight of the bumblebee on saxophone and people got mad
@Fishchair Жыл бұрын
"the worst that can happen is I don't make the audition"- him probably
@jollygrapefruit786 Жыл бұрын
What a huge compliment from Miles Davis
@jeremiahjones3010Ай бұрын
Learned about him from a Lou Reed interview who said Lonely Woman was one of his favorites songs ever. Checked out the album that was on and never been the same.
@GroovingPict Жыл бұрын
For a whole genre and movement and lifestyle supposedly devoted to improvisation and free form, you will never find a bigger bunch of gatekeeping snobs than jazz people
@fungling7982 Жыл бұрын
The whole genre isn't dedicated to free form, that's what Ornette popularised.
@Caleb-zl4wk Жыл бұрын
I don’t think that’s what jazz is. I think it’s more nuanced than that. A lot of it is about building on different structures in different ways. I think Coleman sounds like ass, but maybe that’s bc I don’t know what he’s building on. I don’t think anybody knew what he was building on back then, which was probably part of why he was relieved poorly.
@Simon0103 Жыл бұрын
bro just turned into a mosquito
@AnotherAnonymousMan Жыл бұрын
Is this part of an upcoming full video? I really hope it is!
@srmontevirgen2 ай бұрын
That sax is anchored in the clouds, the percussion and bass the launchpad
@KRAZEEIZATION6 ай бұрын
You can’t really piss off jazz fans. It’s a lifetime commitment and a scholarship that’s hard earned. Jazz is a complex and fascinating music that you either love or hate.
@alani.8784 Жыл бұрын
I always thought in order to piss off jazz fans, you would show them any song performed by Kenny G.
@perrydoig2872 Жыл бұрын
Took my mother to see Kenny G for her birthday a few years ago, and I was blown away by how much of a student of jazz he is. Yeah, his smooth jazz from the 80s and 90s is polarizing, it he did a rendition of Naima did Coltrane justice. The dude has chops.
@casscarthy7442 Жыл бұрын
his music just feels really human
@drmodestoesq Жыл бұрын
Yes, if you're a misanthrope.
@Kwolfx Жыл бұрын
If you want to piss off jazz fans, tell them KennyG is the greatest sax player and jazz composer of all time. Actually it won't piss them off, they will just think you must have been dropped on your head when you were a child
@ictogon Жыл бұрын
Who's the sax player on careless whisper he's pretty good I think 👍😊
@Thewritingelf Жыл бұрын
BUT then there's people like me who like Kenny G !
@irrelevantduckfan441310 ай бұрын
I developed a solid dislike of the sax thanks to Kenny G.
@TheFaSideАй бұрын
Ornette, Monk, Coltrane, Miles, Pharaoh ... My all time favorites.
@EvanVincent.8 ай бұрын
Ornette Colman is awesome. He was my gateway to jazz music as someone who grew up listening to punk music.
@brendan5555 Жыл бұрын
the content you make is incredible and so so so interesting!
@coolandgood1010 Жыл бұрын
Patrick: FREE FORM JAZZ
@anopirsten7565 Жыл бұрын
Modern Jazz Fans when you show them that Dixieland Jazz is the purest and best form of Jazz
@ColorMeHoppy Жыл бұрын
Heh, I'm just happy enough if they know what it is 😂 too many jazz fans ignore southern and delta jazz.
@serenacastro60947 ай бұрын
Dude literally played hardcore on the saxophone. My new favorite jazz artist
@ChrisLawton66 Жыл бұрын
I've only dipped my toes into the jazz world over the decades, with hard rock, folk, and blues being my primary loves, but Coleman was always a standout in jazz for me. It's odd hearing that he wasn't as appreciated as I would have thought he deserved during his time.
@TapRiot Жыл бұрын
Ha! I used to get in trouble for improvising in concert band. Improvisational improvement I call it. Not everyone gets it.
@OiseauTriste Жыл бұрын
That's not a good thing to do no matter how you look at it.
@jasperrocks9967 Жыл бұрын
That’s Cowboy Bebop Jazz right there
@Lemieux_channel11 ай бұрын
You have a point considering that the seatbelts’ motto was that listeners would need a seatbelt when listening to their interpretation of the bebop genre because they’d fall out of their seat… and I guess the people who attended Coleman’s concerts *did* fall out of their seat out of shock from how different it was in a way too lol
@8523wsxc Жыл бұрын
Improvising when no one wants you to is selfish and annoying af though.
@sagetmaster4 Жыл бұрын
He was in high school...
@pwhqngl0evzeg7z37 Жыл бұрын
May be annoying, but the point is his radical individualism which the story demonstates well.
@8523wsxc Жыл бұрын
@@pwhqngl0evzeg7z37 Not a good thing. Not even in art.
@pwhqngl0evzeg7z37 Жыл бұрын
@@8523wsxc Who knows. Perhaps without that selfishness he wouldn't have developed into the musician he did, and we wouldn't have his music to listen to. The world is too complex for anyone to make blanket statements like that.
@8523wsxc Жыл бұрын
@@pwhqngl0evzeg7z37 Music is the result of social human interactions. The lonesome musical genius is a fairy tale perpetuated by people who found success.
@kiciacoldspring162122 күн бұрын
Thank you for introducing me to Ornette Colman. This sounds like music to my ears!
@desmodromic6403 ай бұрын
Ornette Coleman was a jazz visionary genius. PERIOD!!!!
@mr.creeper78023 ай бұрын
“Guess you guys aren’t ready for that yet… but your kids are gonna love it.” The world wasn’t ready for shredding yet.
@toast16127 ай бұрын
His playing is honestly really beautiful. Just the raw emotion it elicits is really hard to find anywhere else
@boboyamyams8 ай бұрын
Eventually is the at pinnacle of Free Jazz. Its super fast paced and you can hear coherence in the playing and can vibe out and marvel at the virtuosity and theres not too many cooks in the kitchen. Large ensemble free jazz can be quite difficult.
@luckydave328 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps I am uneducated but I took to his music on first hearing. I found it exciting and actually soulful.
@Bluemayje Жыл бұрын
Ornette Coleman isn't even the most abrasive sounding avant-garde saxophonist I've ever heard either. That award goes to a Japanese saxophonist from the 70's named Kaoru Abe. Just give him a listen and you'll think Ornette Coleman's off the wall style of free jazz is tame.
@ZigbertD20 күн бұрын
The opening track of Shape of Jazz to Come, "Lonely Woman", is actually really accessible to my ear.