Polytopia - Is Aquarion a GOOD Tribe?

Prior to Polytopia’s Path of the Ocean Update, Aquarion was easily regarded as one of the worst tribes in the game. This was due to a number of different reasons, but the main problem was that Aquarion had no starting technology, and nothing to compensate for it. If you think of technology in terms of star value, they essentially started with 5 or 6 less stars compared to other tribes.
The Naval update sought to remedy this, giving Aquarion riding as a starting technology, as well as an amphibian as their starting unit. The update also included a couple of light buffs for the tribe, such as their super unit’s defense stat getting changed from 4 to 5. However this was offset by reducing their best unit’s health, the tridention, from 15 to 10.
Have these tweaks been enough? Is Aquarion actually a decent tribe now? Today we’re going to figure that out. We’ll be playing two different random multiplayer games, one on Archipelago, and one on continents. After these conclude, I’ll offer my final thoughts and opinions on the tribe. I hope you enjoy!
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Video Name: Polytopia - Is Aquarion a GOOD Tribe?

[@GullYYGamer]

Two weeks after this video was posted, a rework was announced for the Aquarion tribe. I am impressed by how awful the timing of this video was. Anyways I made a video covering all the changes brought by this new update, here's a link to it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sGjQq2umYpiNZsU

[@thescrimble]

I didn't realize that was actually you! Apologies for resigning so quickly, I'm new to multiplayer and didn't check the map type before choosing zebasi 😭

[@GullYYGamer]

It's alright man! Hope you enjoyed the game regardless

[@KingFroggyIV]

As an NPC, Polytopia should hire GullYY to be their class pet.

[@gabriel.holanda777]

Agreed!

[@yonatangale1452]

Sick idea for a video: The creature challenge. 12 Crazy bots massive map with elyrion and the rule is you cant train units. You have to win with only demons and dragons.

[@felixafekenstam7573]

thanks for great analysis! I am actually working an a rework right now. Hope to get it out into some kind of beta quite soon, would be fun to hear your thoughts on that.

[@GullYYGamer]

Very cool, looking forward to it!

[@SilverFan21k]

Whoa. Are you a polytopia dev?

[@SilverFan21k]

PLEASE TONE DOWN CYMANTI AND ELRYION. especially hexapod spam. Cymanti is killing the playerbase of people hate playing against them.

[@SilverFan21k]

Yadakk needs to be looked into currently after the roads nerf aka 3 stars

[@sixwayback]

Please change cymanti

[@Sgrunterundt]

Aquarion building ports and ships is silly. They are fish people. They have the least changed tech tree of all the special tribes. They need a complete rework of the whole naval branch of the tech tree, like cymanti.

[@noirxlle]

aquarion having mermaid type units that replace the diff types of ships would be interesting. ports could be replaced with "academies" for the aquarion to learn the ways of the waters and become more specialized units (like the "scouts" learning to swim long distances away from home) or sth, thatd be rlly cool like aquarion "scouts" could have a much higher movement and range than normal scouts

[@darkcat6530]

​@@noirxllebro is a visionary about the mermaids

[@saarelaminecraft7486]

" I wouldn't want to play a tribe like hoodrick on water world " I wouldn't play hoodrick at all - me ( Those goobers )

[@GullYYGamer]

Based opinion

[@beastysped3270]

I need a video or explanation on why hoodrick is bad 😂

[@Qaztar44]

@@beastysped3270 Of all the tech trees, archery is probably the least useful. That doesn't mean it's entirely not useful (there are some niche cases where it can be real nice) but they just ultimately aren't very good units for what you want to be doing early game (quickly expanding and taking space) or what you want to be doing late game (sieging enemy cities). Not to mention that Spiritualism, which is what Archery leads to, is also very useless. Overall culiminates in Hoodrick being a lower tier tribe. Certainly playable but not as useful as having a free city upgrade at the start (like you get with Imperius, Bardur, Kickoo, etc.) or having some other special trait like the Special Tribes have.

[@earlybirddan3005]

@@Qaztar44to be fair, with hoodrick you get the forest buff. I played dry lands and kept lumber huts all around. I think it helped a lot.

[@Qaztar44]

@@earlybirddan3005 yeah definitely would do better on dry lands with the right start

[@j-train13]

I definitely think Aquarion needs a rework in some form related to movement. Right now Aquarion is by far the least mobile tribe in the game, with their maximum possible movement range being 3 tiles and that's limited only to rammers and scouts. And it is flat out is impossible for them to move more than 2 tiles at a time on land. Personally I think at the very LEAST a small change I would make would be to allow Aquarion to use trade routes on water/ocean similarly to roads, giving their tridents the movement buff they desperately need to avoid being outclassed by knights

[@patricktheaveragejoe6107]

I low key did not notice any of this. That’s what I get for playing them once in 2022 and never again! 😭😭

[@GullYYGamer]

Give them another go! I was pleasantly surprised

[@publicsafetyhazard]

reminder than you can't start turn 0 with the lighthouse revealed anymore (for determining your opponents tribe with score)

[@oscarw1060]

That's what he meant, because the fact that the lighthouse tile will be fog means the starting score is 5pt less than normal

[@NazarBabiak]

Gully, it's great that you are constantly uploading videos. Hope KZbin pays you enough. Thanks for supporting the game and the community this much!

[@da_dogbar]

do you plan on covering the beta changes for the tribe?

[@GullYYGamer]

Absolutely. Video tomorrow

[@Xcyiterr]

as someone who's favourite tribe is still aquarion, even before they got tweaked/buffed, I am so happy this video exists and also tridentions didn't need to be nerfed twice, they really should be able to use roads so they're not completely useless with lots of land in the way it's not a good sign when the signature unit of a special tribe is arguably on par or worse than default boats

[@freyhebert5947]

I dare you GullYY, (if you see this) The naval updates have changed the meta of the game to such an extent that even on Pangea maps focusing primarily on your navy you'll get pretty consistent wins (obviously depends on map size, special tribes, and doing ONLY navy is a little silly) So because of this, I have a challenge for you: Aquarius on Pangea in random multiplayer. I've done it a few times, and its very rewarding, and really teaches you to appreciate the little quirks of Aquarius and naval tech in general Unrelated Idea for aquacrop replacement in aquaculture tech: we've got bridges, why not canals? connect lakes together on lakes maps, or cities 1-square inland to sea trade routes. It'll be maybe even more situational, but it would complement bridges really well, fit an empty spot on the tech tree, and all without any big changes to the games mechanics or balance. thoughts?

[@LOLPOST]

tbf in real warfare the navy is becoming increasingly important aswell

[@vinsplayer2634]

That would also really help aquarions.

[@sanderdevries3690]

Thanks for the good content. Dont know if it is mentioned. But i think if you replace roads for waterways makes aquarion faster on land maps could be an upgrade for the tribe. The speed only increase on the waterways leafing them makes the units slow again.

[@keenantheho]

YEAHHH MORE GULLYY CONTENT!!!!!

[@mysticcr8tor773]

First and you're popping off, way to go man

[@Jesus-yo8if]

No youre not

[@PanJakubPuchaty]

Aquarion is my favourite tribe now. Crabs + tridentions are such a powerful combo, and now this tribe is actually decent in the early game. Kind of like a water-based omaji.

[@Chipfoxxo]

aquarion is the most situational tribe in the game imo on water maps they're really good but on land maps they suck so they're "good" but being situational brings them down a bit

[@beastysped3270]

What a good review at the end, so much learning from this video!! Thanks gully🙂

[@andreachiti2920]

I would remove the boats from them and create new technologies and special abilities, maybe something to link up cities from water or an ability to hide under water

[@andreachiti2920]

Yes baby I knew it

[@LOLPOST]

still waiting eagerly for a zebasi video... probably my favourite tribe since the naval update. such a strong early game

[@galenmorse294]

What is Gullyy's elo?

[@grsdv]

I used to play Aquarion 95% of the time before the PotO update, they were my absolute favourite tribe and I had an ELO of around 1550 so I'd say I was not bad. Amphibions and Tridentions not being able to use roads means Aquarion have become unplayable - they are way too slow on lands, can't attack, can't defend, it's absolutely impossible to conquer land. I have stopped playing Polytopia altogether and I won't be coming back until they buff Aquarion. Sad times.

[@kratos4798]

Did you come back?

[@grsdv]

@@kratos4798 Kind of - they're very fun and unique to play now, but they are not that viable competitively - poor economy (you need loads of techs to upgrade your cities), cool unique units but not very strong on water (Scouts, Rammers and Bombers are stronger than Jellies and Sharks, Tridentions have been severely nerfed, etc) and terrible on land as they can't use roads. I'm still figuring them out but unless they're buffed I can't see myself playing multiplayer again.

[@WhoTookQuwhu]

Reworks for all the special tribes are coming in the next few updates. That includes fixing Cymanti by making them weaker early game and stronger late game

[@Mittensbot7488]

Make another tier list tribes pls and considering it military and economy and common resources(number of resources)

[@Johnny_L1]

Not saying that music plays a big role in my tribe picks (it does), but Aquarions music is so beautifully calming 😌

[@thetruetri5106]

I just feel like on maps like continents it can be an absolute pain to push deeper into the land after haven taken over the ocean

[@spicyonion736]

Make aquarion defenders CRABfenders and increase their base hp or their defense, that will allow aquarion to defend their cities more easily while they keep expanding and also would give them another reason to develop the organization tree other than just unlocking farms

[@henreereemanmini3973]

if aquarion does get reworked, I think they could replace a certain unit (IDK which) w/ a crab and their super unit w/ a lobster

[@Arsen592_Old]

Who would have known, that just in 2 weeks this would get outdated....

[@GullYYGamer]

My timing is somehow atrocious and impeccable

[@SilverFan21k]

Great video 🐢

[@SilverFan21k]

Do the same video for yadakk (post roads nerf) and vengir

[@LincolnSmith-dc5st]

New gully upload?????? This is the new best day of my life until the next video

[@thephill_osopher7245]

Sick vid bro😎

[@grantking2560]

sick by the bridge from google translate goes soo hard

[@NicSantiagoG]

Shout out to to pre path Aquarion, Tridenton with roads was broken

[@davidvazquez1014]

Aquarion is also a good counter against Polaris,the tridentions destroy their units and they cant freze the water

[@penguined_9393]

Ai mo definitely needs a buff imo. If aquarion is better now then ai-mo may be the worst tribe

[@GullYYGamer]

Ai-Mo is a lot better than most people think (I used to think they were pretty bad too). I think Vengir may be the worst now but it depends on the maptype, size, number of opponents, etc

[@penguined_9393]

@@GullYYGamer yeah fs. I may be biased bc Ai-mo's my favorite, but I think Vengir is really suboptimal when on bigger maps too, they could use a buff

[@Azu_The_Legend]

Ai-mo gets too much hate, they're not top tier but that doesn't make them a bad tribe at all.

[@alphachicken377]

I see what you did there ai mo and imo

[@zigzag321go]

Ai mo gets early access to the philosophy cost reduction, plus an extra monument in Altar of Peace, which only they (and maybe Xin-Xi) can realistically get. They're not top tier, but they're good.

[@jakubjózefowski-o4b]

Aquarion REALLY needet that buff or aquarion would‘t be viable at all Like before the buff glad trybes are getting Buffed

[@pichuispro4432]

Aquarian lacks the ability To chain, but doesn’t have a crazy aoe like cymanti doomux, Aquarian deserves a rework. The crabs also can’t become boats, so no juggernaut

[@Maussiegamer]

11:02 wtf are they feeding the fish in that village

[@dangerfield6855]

When you play logically like you do. Examining resources, thinking to future turns, not going for the heavy hitting units. I'm trying to learn the balance between economy and rushing to knights/trids. Lol

[@robespierre2575]

Amazing video

[@remcovanhartevelt588]

Amphibians should be able to move 2 tiles on roads, change my mind.

[@Sgrunterundt]

Yeah, that seems fair. Losing the water buff, but still getting the road buff.

[@WhoTookQuwhu]

@@Sgrunterundt That would literally make the idea of the unit pointless

[@Garykem8]

Gonna need to update this video lol.

[@dionerhodes1308]

I guess I'm still not too familiar with this tribe b'cuz I'm having a heck of a time trying 2 grow a city on water. I mean they're s'pose 2 b a water tribe but there's really no tech 4 growth on deep water.🤷‍♀️🙁

[@faithtjendra2099]

Aquarion really strong in archipolago, and counter polaris really good

[@Max-vu2uo]

short answer: no

[@ramramh123]

Can you please tell me how to get more tribes plssssz

[@GullYYGamer]

Buy them

[@ramramh123]

@@GullYYGamer 🥲

[@theqoulyv]

@@GullYYGamer Can you buy them for me, aren't you a rich KZbinr ? Buy it for me. NOW

[@jo_el_]

Give the creaters some love and just buy ​@@theqoulyv

[@antoineigardepasou245]

No joke but aquarion is god tier on archipelago, especially in maps large or above. I only play that and the only time I lose is against another aquarion or with very very very bad spawns (like 1 in 30). I am currently 1750 elo thanks to this strat

[@fabian1094]

Gud video

[@cliphathaway2848]

wait wutttttt gullYY got something other than stars in a ruin? AND your telling me he posted it?

[@ishaanvidyarthi8286]

wouldnt water world be aquarions best thingy

[@williamferguson9216]

Second?

[@chrisgeraghty9951]

is aquarion good? no.

[@mysticcr8tor773]

Lol

[@theboiwho8pasta]

2 nanoseconds and still now views? Bro completely fell off.

[@Peanut_Flailer]

Without watching the video: no.

[@rimaclesevelc1027]

Screw Aquarion

[@warbled]

Aquarion worst tribe