Poor Maintenance resulted in Engine Failure ? 3.0L SDV6 / S5-EP15

In this episode, we disassemble the engine of our Land Rover Discovery 4 SDV6 3.0L. We bought this car with 135000 km and a failed engine. We thought we have a snapped crankshaft as usual but this time, something else caused the engine to fail.
We are not liable for any harm you do to your car, your engine, your surroundings or yourself. Use the information given in this video at your own risk.
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[@Tazinian]

I love that you guys mention the "I Do Cars" channel. Between your channel and that channel, Eric the Car Guy, and Ratchets N Wrenches, I have all the wisdom I need for my backyard DYI projects. I throw in the Pakistani sandal mechanics in every now and then to stay humble.

[@DiHandley]

I could be in the middle of a coronary bypass operation and I would stop the doctor to watch a new LR Time video! 😁👍

[@Vera_and_Christian]

LOL - I hope you are not the doctor. Christian

[@jimegan7193]

Your Land Rover probably gave you the coronary in the first place!

[@jackfruitbananas]

I would let them do the coronary surgery!

[@marka6591]

@@jimegan7193 Whereas if you had a Nistoyobishi you would’ve died of boredom…

[@larskrogh586]

@@Vera_and_Christian ♥️👍

[@Ingens_Scherz]

Quite frankly, I believe that what I'm watching here is a pair of very classy, highly experienced engineering experts indulging in their lovey-dovey hobby (fixing broken Landy motors - surely a source of endless delight!). To total non-runners like myself (engineering-wise), this is mesmerising - and so brilliantly edited. Love it!

[@Vera_and_Christian]

Thanks!

[@adrianward362]

I loved the impatient thumb rolling whilst Vera was trying to remove the head bolts!😂

[@samrodian919]

@adrianward1362, yes I nearly wet myself when Christian was doing that!

[@johncooper5293]

Yes, really funny you douche. She just had the wrong angle and simple to tell her to reposition.

[@cvasirocket1401]

12:17 Christian almost shed a tear seeing the engine block like that, I felt that. I'd feel heartbroken as well.

[@Vera_and_Christian]

He wanted content, and we certainly got great content. 😅👍 It would have been boring just doing the same stuff over again, and we aquired so much experience. 🙋‍♀️

[@AdmissionGaming]

My boss makes a dollar, i make a dime. Thats why i watch lr time on company time.

[@Vera_and_Christian]

That is our philosophy here, you can surely own a Land Rover, earning a dime, if you know how to wrench. Parts are not that expensive. And remember, we alsways only look for broken ones. We never look for running Land Rovers. They are not all bad. 👌💪🙋‍♀️

[@petert4393]

If only you had a blacksmith in the family to weld that block back up Christian and Vera!!

[@dadgarage7966]

My thought as well. Yes, someone familiar with metallurgy and metal casting.

[@Syntappi]

They wouldn't still trust it. Block integrity might be compromised and it's kinda a hack job. 😃

[@A-world-of-My-Own]

JLR Dealer Workshops, = Poor Amateur Jobs at Professional Prices. Well done LR Time, again.

[@Ingens_Scherz]

The company's entire senior management level should watch this video and be extremely concerned, assuming they're serious about saving the brand - and their own jobs. This is that fecking bad.

[@Rover200Power]

@@Ingens_Scherz If they cared that much the Ingenium engines would work perfectly.

[@LandParkColby]

I am amazed at the complexity of a modern ICE engine ... no wonder they cost so much to repair and a great reminder to DO YOUR maintenance!! And do it often ...

[@davidfields-gm4oj]

here in the states we like cummins diesel my o8 ram 6.7 has 130 k miles and is just getting broken in. as a owner operator i ran fl70 freightliner box trucks easily over 300 k miles. can verify my friend paul bought a 1996 ram 5.9 cummins standard shift pickup new and still drives it as a backup vehicle today. now the big thing is cummins has a new v6 available in the ram trucks today. god bless all your endevors.

[@richardparkersmith4810]

If I really screw up my courage, I can dismantle '60s motorcycle engines and put them together again😂. Huge respect to you both for your ability and knowledge with this very complex engine! Seems like much of the work to get at the core of the engine is plumbing.

[@hughmarcus1]

Oh my. What a mess. Such a pity that engine was run unnecessarily. I saw a cheap D4 for sale on eBay UK last week. The description said “engine knocking, starts for loading” 😩 Once again I’m in awe of Christian’s skills. 👍

[@KatlegoMac]

I think I saw one like that too. Price was £1500.

[@hughmarcus1]

@@KatlegoMacyes. The headline figure may appear cheap, but when you see the damage to this engine, buying one is definitely a gamble.

[@rambleon2838]

Oh ... I thought that knocking was the BMW next to me

[@moobaz8675]

A two man job. In my household of three women and me, comments like that would have been met with the involuntary alteration of important parts of my anatomy.😬 Luckily I have been well trained over these past years. 😂

[@TR4zest]

You two are simply awesome. I marvel at your fortitude, know-how, organisation, collaboration and co-operation through a very complex breakdown, mixed with wit, humour and general cheerfulness in a second language, all dressed with excellent video editing. You would be a joy to watch for anyone that owns a torque wrench, and maybe some that don't know what one is. Thank you.

[@Vera_and_Christian]

🤗🙏🙋‍♀️

[@diljitsingh9444]

Your videos are inspiring me to own an old LR and dare!!! Would be a good idea to live my retired life. My father was just like you, explaining each and every thing in detail while doing anything mechanical.

[@martynbush]

Sunday morning, tea, biscuits, and LR Time; Perfect! Could only be better if Christian knew more about Toyota 😂😂😂😂😂

[@thomasrogers4534]

Absolutely fascinating. I want an old Range Rover Sport so bad, could possibly buy one, but maintenance (stuff going wrong/breaking) as you guys show is an absolute financial nightmare?! Every time I see a modern engine with it's mind boggling array of accessories/control systems I think back to the 60's and how simple it was to maintain basic car engines. Engine won't start? take out Swiss army knife, and it's sorted.

[@michaelbullis2484]

I watch Eric regularly and about spit coffee on my screen the way Christian handled the water pump.

[@IO-zz2xy]

First time viewer of this channel, been watching from first purchase of this Landy, I am mesmerized by their knowledge and work ethic. Regards from South Africa

[@Rickwardful]

Ford and Peugeot used to be renowned for making relatively simple, reliable engines. It seems to me that they now design and build engines that if they can fit something to make it more complicated, they just do it!

[@alananderson6812]

Now they are using wet timing belts (BIO) they just fit a whole new engine if the belt breaks under warranty.

[@gordonbritton3215]

Love it when you get to the oily bits 😂thanks again for another great video 👍

[@exgtt2061]

Your dedication to LR is heroic. One of the best channels on here 👌

[@leerolfe5332]

Been watching for a while now. What a massive dose of knowledge mixed with bloody good humour!

[@raymondg6823]

Vera's body weight couldn't shift 120nm of head bolt, this is why sleep and food is so important to her in great frequencies, build her up, OMG did I say that...Always look forward to your videos, thank you both.

[@gmlover82]

Love the I Do Cars references. Eric is awesome. Hope y’all have a wonderful week!

[@desmcdermott6090]

Excellent video. It is like watching a whodunit in the morning rather than on a Sunday evening.

[@abarratt8869]

If this engine is going to be put back together, you've got to get those aluminium parts restored! They've been well and truly salted. Put out a call to Vixen surface treatments, or pop up to Sreten in Frankfurt and borrow his 🙂

[@simonbailey2151]

They’re only down the road From Frankfurt!

[@leeburdett8920]

Certainly some important reminders regarding engine servicing for Discovery owners, but I think the content that this will create is going to be fantastic, really looking forward to how things develop.

[@MarkSpohr]

Every time I see one of these repair videos I think of the relative simplicity of an electric motor with one moving part instead of thousands. I can't wait to replace the several thousand "precision" parts of my Disco 2 engine and transmission with an electric motor.

[@geoffaries]

Unfortunately that's not quite accurate. Watch Richie Rebuilds and other EV repair channels. Certainly the electric motor is simpler, but EV's have a lot of moving parts which require lubrication, plus they have sophisticated cooling systems for the batteries, especially the high performance models, complicated battery management electronics.

[@MarkSpohr]

@@geoffaries Yeah, they have axles. Electronics don't wear out.

[@geoffaries]

Yeah electronics "wear out" have you never had to replace or repair a PCB

[@MarkSpohr]

I have piles of old computers. All work just fine. Never had an electronic failure in a car

[@paulpaulzadeh6172]

Vera , you should have a counter for how many time you say ," oh my god" OMG counter 😂😂😂😂😂❤

[@doneB830]

I believe the right professionals could repair that block and sump.

[@Vera_and_Christian]

Not one professional will ever warrant a welded block like that. 👍🙋‍♀️

[@Konigstiger222]

24:00 risky thing to say when Vera is holding a metal pipe Christian! LR Time just about turned into ER time! I laughed a lot though! Hi from New Zealand and a fellow Disco 4 owner :)

[@markdavis2475]

Have considered having the block repaired? It's often done on older/rarer blocks. If you have all the bits (possibly not!) They can be stitched and welded. But, yes, a short block from the UK is a good solution 😀

[@whereisgeo]

Look at that…an adjustable rod and an inspection port! I appreciate the proper care of the water pump! I enjoyed your references to Eric at I do cars!

[@RICHIE87622]

Defining common sense! does the bit of the car that makes it go, sound different? Dont know dont care just need to do some mall crawling because thats all I know!!!!! Remember to ask your viewers to give it a thumbs up! 👍😬🗣❤

[@123654789Eduardo]

Beautiful work Christian and Vera. 👏👏🙌🤝👌

[@tonysmith3182]

Fab, my favourite Sunday morning video entertainment, thanks again to you both….and take the rest of the day off!

[@johnshaw4140]

It is mindblowing the number of drivers who do not bother with regular servicing and regular oil changes , even if I don't use my car more than 3 or 4 times per year , my Berty BMW still gets new oil and filters every year.......Yes I know that this is a Landrover channel but I love my 1975 3.0s , my Berty BMW

[@Vera_and_Christian]

👌💪👍🙋‍♀️

[@drones7838]

As a “ I do cars fan” it’s cool to see LR time watches his channel to

[@jase9951]

too

[@leerolfe5332]

I wish I had you as neighbours before I cut my teeth on my first disco this year. Always wanted one and after 30 years on the road. ❤

[@E.Moralejo]

The best part of a Sunday morning is watching the latest video from LR-Time! Now is there a possibility of a Christian / Robin team up? Video Title: Blacksmith effortlessly welds broken cast iron engine block then hands it back over to his father to machine back to factory specs. CAN'T WAIT! 🙏

[@nigelhardwick122]

Replacement Block and Sump Possibility - Hi there Christian and Vera. Just watched your tear down video here in the UK. There is a breakers facility called Gentlemen of Salvage who deal in Land Rovers who may be able to provide a suitable replacement block and sump for your new project. Especially as you say that you are looking at 6K to 8K Euros. They are located in Devon, in the South West of the UK. Great videos and really appreciate your attention to detail. 👍😁

[@Vera_and_Christian]

So we have a 2016 Discovery 4 Gen 2 Euro 6 engine. We cannot just put in any block from any SDV6. I have TDV6 redomended form salvage yards out the UK. The block is different and cannot be matched with a Gen 2 engine. It has to come from a Gen 2 engine and these are also very expensive in the UK. We already have a solution, and from that we learned, never ever, ever, buy an engine online without having an indepth look at it before paying. Thank god we had a look at the engine before we bought it. All explained in an upcoming video. 👍🙋‍♀️

[@TheOverlandGoose]

Great video as always guys... the thumb twiddle had me creasing up 🤣

[@bigdavesdiscovery3world414]

Great Sunday morning viewing just so much better than watching the news on TV! There are enough drivers out there who don't care about how they drive.... You know when I had my '68 Cougar I never listened to the radio (likely because I couldn't hear above the engine) ...no because I listened to that beautiful V8! You have to listen to your car what it's saying to you. Thanks V & C have a good week! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻❤

[@Vera_and_Christian]

👌💪🙋‍♀️

[@EagerMrd]

Watching from London, this is the best channel on KZbin. If I didn’t have a fantastic Volvo xc90 2.5T and I had a Land Rover, there is no one in the world who I would want to repair it other than you 2. Keep the videos coming, my eyes need it.

[@MegaSkypes]

Feeling like you should just scrap that engine and get a 5.0 litre V8 and put that in and show us your excellent skills as you always do! Love your work ❤

[@raycollington4310]

It’s such a shame to see such needless extensive damage and the catalogue of events. You win some, you lose some, as they say. I hope the second rate LR dealer technician who did such a substandard job on the timing belt is not still employed in the motor industry. He might be a subscriber and watching this. Good luck finding the parts to rebuild. Thank you both.

[@jonarnejorgensen1179]

Loved the thumb rolling. :D

[@eddieMurphy11111]

it is always wise taking a picture of things before you strip it down this is what we always do ,thanks for the video

[@Ricardo.parodi]

I change the oil every 4 months, no matter the mileage I have done... thank you both, very much

[@Vera_and_Christian]

I hope your mileage does not exceed more than 6000 miles then. I do manage to go way more than that in a period of 4 months, especially in the summer time. 👌👍🙋‍♀️Vera

[@Ricardo.parodi]

@@Vera_and_Christian Oh no, I do about 3k to 4k miles. And, as I learnt watching you both, aways thoroughly check the filter for any particles... Touch wood, none thus far. 🕺

[@Vera_and_Christian]

@@Ricardo.parodi Perfect. 👍💪👌🙋‍♀

[@user-dc9yq8oq4g]

As always, pleasure to see your work. 💗

[@gazzafloss]

Hey Christian, there's a workshop in Pakistan that could weld up that engine block and fix the sump. Why spend all that money, piece of cake mate!

[@StaceyOfficialCollins]

Looks like this engine decided to retire early and take a well-deserved vacation!

[@johntower64]

Hello Barbara, how are you?😏😒🙄

[@janbauwmans7662]

Thank you for another great entertaining and instructive video ! Enjoy your Sunday !

[@michaelwhyte3995]

Gold love the attention to detail!

[@roypedersen585]

Can never get enough of your channel!!!!

[@user-dt2up9wo4u]

Love watching you guys

[@philss1]

Loved watching this disassembly video. Looking forward to you next one.

[@sean7134]

I love these videos , all kinds of good ideas to learn from

[@TheDaf95xf]

Good afternoon Vera 🤩 I watch your videos even if you both sat on a park bench and just talked about anything 🤣 What a fantastic video on how to pull down a LR engine that’s stuffed 😀 Vera hugs always as you do really make these videos come alive 🤗😘 xx

[@Vera_and_Christian]

😃🙏🙋‍♀️

[@dougwernham5209]

Excellent video thank you.

[@PeteHuntley]

Thank you so much, I really do love watching you two. Cracking vid.

[@thomaskeane429]

Brilliant again and very entertaining, WELL done Vera and Christian

[@williamstoutjesdijk-ry2oz]

Good video, and humour was top notch….. 👍🏻😃

[@johnnyknap]

A high ‘Amateur,OMG Debacle’ count this week signifies you did indeed buy a lemon!! Those Euro boxes look nice, sadly we’re not allowed to buy them in the UK anymore. (only kidding)

[@davids9549]

OMG. At least now I know, as the owner of a 2015 D4 in the 'Death Zone' (i.e. 95K miles) not to drive any further if (when) the engine knocks. My previous cars were Toyotas/Lexus, but so far (coming to 4 years) this LR has been just as reliable.

[@Vera_and_Christian]

Only 2-3% fail. It's just that mostly those are the ones covered in social media unfortunately. 👍🙋‍♀️

[@davids9549]

@@Vera_and_Christian Good to know! Since when did we let a sense of proportion get in the way of a bad news story? Still I'm hoping my frequent oil changes will help keep me out of the 2-3%. I might even stop using the dumbass!!

[@iandonkin6762]

Always enjoy my Sunday LR Time ‘fix’, but this one is more of a horror movie! Not only was there evidence of lots of amateur bodgery with the maintenance that had been carried out, but poor maintenance / running the engine causing the con rod to snap and then punch holes in the block is just criminal! Looking forward to seeing subsequent episodes of this one and hopefully you found a more commercially viable option for the replacement block and sum pan internals! And like numerous others, I’d love to see the original block repaired by Robin, but I recognise that this would introduce more risks and uncertainty for the future. Good luck!

[@Vera_and_Christian]

It will have a happy end. 😅👍🙋‍♀️

[@iandonkin6762]

@@Vera_and_Christianand we all love a happy ending, don’t we 😂

[@gimmegaming5345]

I'm new to the channel. I'm not a land rover person. I've never been in one outside of the army, let alone driven one. I do watch "4WD 24-7" for the adventures though which I believe is why I was recommended your channel. One of your recently episodes ended up in my feed about 2 weeks ago. Ever since I've binge watched the last year worth of your episodes. I'm Irish and live north of Hamburg. I drive between Dublin or Portsmouth and Hamburg. Once while driving between these places I seen a Landrover with a Dirt plate. I was commenting to my brother who was on the journey with me that it was a cool plate for a Landrover. Funny I come across a channel that is full of them :).

[@Vera_and_Christian]

I am occasionally up in your area, with our son Philipp.😅👍🙋‍♀️

[@gimmegaming5345]

@@Vera_and_Christian It was probably your car I seen then :)

[@deanirwin3645]

Nice to shout out "I Do Cars". I think a collab would be awesome

[@johnlydon533]

Great video guys. I love all your videos. Enjoyed watching. 👍🏼👍🏼

[@mauritztoivonen1070]

Thank you.

[@williamprobert5124]

On a Toyota this would just be a tick at idle Toyota are so good they don’t even need oil . But in the real world this is what happens if you don’t maintain your engine properly. The most expensive oil change is the one you didn’t do . Great video Vera/ Christian

[@abarratt8869]

Christian showed the vast difference in bearing area between these engines and the typical Toyota designs. Needless to say the Toyota gets a lot more so all the bearings are under stressed. If I recall correctly, these TDV6s had to fit transverse in Peugeots and Citroens too, robbing them of length and thence bearing surface and material in the crank itself. Not a great idea.

[@alimechs]

Good update keep it up the good work and God bless you 👍👍👍

[@barrydavis1751]

Hi mate just looking at the engine I would say a lot of 4WD has been taken place some people think the D4 is Bullitt proof and more interested in having fun instead of taking care the vehicle you know the is a old saying in my day in the work shop and it still applies today a land rover is only good as it's owner and who has been serving it, you probably need to check the hole vehicle to be safe take care guys ❤ Barry

[@Vera_and_Christian]

It's not our first rebuild and certainly not our first Discovery 4. Check out our channel. We soley focus on the Discovery 3 and 4, and lately also on the TDV8 L405. 🙋‍♀️

[@barrydavis1751]

@@Vera_and_Christian sorry this was not detected at you I have seen many of your videos over the past two years and I know and see for myself self your work is very impressive what I am saying it's the previous owner's and the so called mechanics who worked on the vehicle before you, I personally can't work the way you do due to age and more so health reasons but I am still going to buy a discovery 4 but in a 2.7 which you were able to get in Australia until 2012 I will definitely keep watching videos thanks Barry.

[@ccconlan2670]

ITS LR TIME😊😊😊 great video this week great engineering from Christian and great organisation from vera.great team😊😊😊

[@jimmcculloch3786]

Just brilliant, thank you. Learn sooooo much :)

[@raymondsweeney8073]

Fascinating episode 👏👏👏☘️

[@2605155]

DEBACLE /dĭ-bä′kəl, -băk′əl, dĕb′ə-kəl/ noun 1. A sudden, disastrous collapse, downfall, or defeat; a rout. 2. A total, often ludicrous failure. 3. The breaking up of ice in a river. 4. Vera's favorite English word Guys, I love it when she says it. I now use the word 10 times a day and pronounce it the way she does.

[@Vera_and_Christian]

😅🙏🙋‍♀️

[@philipway4443]

Another great video from you both, very interesting diagnoses by Christian and yourself look forward to the next one.

[@spiderdad00]

Great video love the banter

[@MrRedfreds]

Really enjoying the videos, you're not Amateurs.

[@treywilder8630]

Thank you for another great videao and Sunday morning! Sorry to hear about the block, but it will make a cool coffee table.

[@elementaldraco]

You are going to have to get a Mighty Car Mods "Rodney The Piston Sticker" to put on the back to complete the job.

[@alanadair2367]

A great video see next Sunday 👍

[@andeanrider6355]

Good job guys.

[@user-hg2vo2bk2b]

Great video as always ❤ It proves regular maintenance is essential, especially for a complex,and quite delicate engine 😂 keep up the good work

[@johnwilkinson4782]

Great video again. Love Sunday morning with a cuppa and your video. Sorry you can't save that block and it's going to cost you more money. Love the water pump bit 😂 Looking forward to the next installment, 👍

[@toyotatim2521]

Repair the block with some JB Weld 😅

[@royrcf]

After watching this episode. I am sure I made the correct decision to stick with bicycle maintenance. Another fantastic video. Entertaining and informative in equal measure, and I don't own a Land Rover.

[@dabay200]

I always learn something new watching LR Time - the best engineers on youtube

[@chrisskillett8218]

I’ve had a triple bypass and 4 years ago and I think 💭 I would watch after I come round 😅 love ❤️ the video 🎉💋👍🇬🇧👍

[@alexshapley8331]

here endeth the lesson... do your bloody services! what a shame that it is going to be so much more to fix this engine, but looking forward to seeing the process. as usual, kudos to both of you, and thanks for the excellent and very watchable content.

[@Vera_and_Christian]

It‘s going to be good content😅👍That is all that matters. 🙋‍♀️

[@beozzie690]

Without Vera, Christian would be lost, and nothing would be cataloged or they’d be in the wrong boxes.. Vera is worth her weight in gold. Every mechanic needs a Vera.

[@cf5914]

But sadly, none of us do.

[@biz4twobiz463]

...or every husband needs a Vera.

[@johnmorrissey3649]

Brilliant video as per usual. Thats a disapointment on the engine block, it puts the repairs into a different ballpark costwise.

[@user-yx6ry5ow2r]

I was watching another video and you video popped up I will watch the other video when yours is finished.Another masterclass, I have to wait for another week. Stay safe and good health.

[@Vera_and_Christian]

😅👍🙏🙋‍♀️

[@graemewiltshire312]

I love these people 😂 wish I had same temperament.

[@lucysoutdoors]

A few days later Vera gets the head bolts off 🤣🤣🤣 well done young lady

[@Vera_and_Christian]

I got them off just fine. And I don't hurt my back while doing so.😅👍🙋‍♀️

[@robgreenhill1426]

Yep, a coffee table, add some lights in the water channels, and use the cylinders for bottle storage

[@robertmcfarlane4486]

Great content, I really enjoy L.R time . I must say I miss driving my Disco 4 but I certainly do not miss the Cost of ownership. Hello from The Isle of Skye In Scotland.

[@davidstevens1547]

Amazed at what you found. So much damage because of poor maintenance and being driven when it should have been pulled onto the tow truck. The price of these engines is very high here in the UK. Trust you can find the parts you need possibly from the UK. Maybe cheaper to come over and get the bits you need here. These engines are so complicated these days. Your patience in taking it apart and Vera making sure the parts are kept in order must make things so much better for you. Always amazed how you stay so positive. 😀👍👍

[@Colinpark]

That's not a hole in the block, that's a new Landrover crankcase inspection window. I think you should have your son weld it just for kicks!

[@Vera_and_Christian]

We will, already have the cast iron weld sticks at home. But it will never go back into any Discovery we ever plan on driving. 👍🙋‍♀️