Poor Man's/Simple Bismuth Duck Load 🦆🔨

A simple to put together bismuth duck load using easy to find components in today's cluster of an economy.
I forgot to mention to use any standard primer such as a CX2000 or Win209.
You don't have to buffer this load, or use PSB. Any buffer will work. Removing the buffer will add another 20-30 FPS and drop pressures 1k-1,500 PSI (this is a max PSI load, do not alter powder charge).
Does not need a crimp finishing tool either. Proper press adjustments to get a uniform crimp is all that's needed.
This load can be done with 1-1/4oz bismuth with 26 grains Longshot (may need OSC on top for a good crimp) (1250 FPS).
Enjoy.

[@raymondbuie5292]

Thank you, very nice simple load!

[@TreeTop1947]

Those were sure some nice looking patterns you shot with those loads! TreeTop

[@gradyfuller4880]

Thank you for the great information. That’s definitely going in the loading book.

[@avidwaterfowler7522]

Looking good, Keith! This will be perfect for my old 1957 Winchester model 12.

[@saltcreekammo]

These are pretty light shooting due to the speeds. Would make for a dense decoy load in a cylinder choke with #5, #6 and even #7 for timber style hunts.

[@RDReynoldsOutdoors]

great info

[@JohnnyDixon-xz5eb]

Great load. I'm new to reloading and this gives me something to do with all these cb 1138. I didn't know they came in bags of 500 lol.

[@saltcreekammo]

Yeah for sure! 😆... It's a great wad for heavier payloads in 2-3/4" 12... A few bismuth loads I've found with it. Figured I'd share... I also came upon an entire 55 gallon bin of old Remington peters and AA one piece hulls to make use of.

[@jacobfarley824]

Im starting loading this year and this was my bismuth load for 12 ga. Im using Remington STS hull of AA. Im from Utah and I dont think alot of people load shotshells here, so its hard to find out data.

[@avidwaterfowler7522]

Have you noticed any issues with fracturing of the value bismuth?

[@saltcreekammo]

I don't have much experience with it. I've been mostly loading the Rotometals stuff, which has done me well this far. I hardly get any fractures with it, especially keeping speeds between 1200-1300 FPS.

[@themississippioutdoorsman3107]

Would the roll crimp at the end be needed? I would think that would slightly increase pressure? Just asking because I don’t have a roll crimp tool. Also what’s the velocity for the 1 3/8oz load in the video? Thanks for this, used your turkey load this year to take a nice turkey it patterned great and did the job

[@saltcreekammo]

The finish crimp isn't needed given your press can produce a shell that'll function in your shotgun properly. This load is 1215 FPS. Both mentioned either in the video or description. Thanks for your business, and watching the video.

[@Mississippi72]

Can't get no powder in my area

[@saltcreekammo]

There's nowhere in Mississippi that has Longshot?... Lots of places online.

[@user-ph5mj7ow6z]

Hey you're using jb and bobs powder I and my handicap brother was adopted by Bob after our parents passed away he was a truly amazing human and he will be missed so much please continue to help me support the hodgdon family

[@saltcreekammo]

No idea what you're talking about. All I know is Longshot is the magic with bismuth and other cushioned wad duck loads.

[@marionjohnson2211]

Why don't you just use the MEC for all stages?

[@saltcreekammo]

It isn't as precise as I want it to be.