BEATLES Let It Be: The Argument With Context |

[@robertsagers5355]

Imagine having an argument with one of your best friends, and 52 years later it’s discussed and dissected in a KZbin video.

[@jimmybonar2566]

It's The Beatles :)

[@adrianreyes4702]

Good point. I think most of us are just fascinated at the musical genius of these lads, and the kind of things minds like that clashed over. It would be like being able to hear audio of Beethoven, and Motzart as their brilliant musical minds butted over a few notes, and how they are executed.

[@roughcutguitars]

a brave new world

[@davidhadley370]

At least it's the Beatles... These days every innate, trivial daily occurrence is put on the internet. It's gotten to a point where content is more important than facts or validity. Just some bored shmuck.... ;)

[@jrgboy]

Will Paul & Ringo remember much about this after over 50 years, I wouldn't....

[@justkids2373]

Ringo Starr: The World's Most Patient Drummer

[@BillMcGirr]

I was listening... thinking Ringo probably is tired of this shit. I wonder if his opinions weren’t welcome... Or he just wasn’t interested in stepping in it.🤣👍🥃

[@hopelessstrlstfan181]

Not that I'm taking sides... F@ck it--> I'm on Paul's side. What's so "controversial" about just keeping it simple (melody and guitar chords) until everyone learns the changes and then starting to experiment with the arrangements? Really, George? That's not a good suggestion? Please!!!

[@NYCgirl927]

@@rman52 beautiful comment. Agreed.

[@Chipicui]

@@rman52 Exactly, my thoughts too... Paul was the only driving force of the Beatles at that time

[@QuarrellaDeVil]

Cast here in the role of "Sir Not-Appearing-In-This-Film."

[@shaunmcnally3064]

It's unfortunately a no win situation. George at this point seemed desperate to leave, and was looking for a way out, and Paul knew it, but was fighting as hard as he could to keep it together. Lennon was lost to drugs and Ringo was actually the glue that probably resulted in Let It Be getting finished! Mad to think but never underestimate the importance of Ringo, he was everyone's mate and I think they all enjoyed being around him

[@TheSteveGainesRockBand]

I like how when they are speaking you list the 4 Beatles on a black screen and place the text of their conversation beside the person speaking. That is a brilliant idea and it helps a lot.

[@brianolson6366]

Yes that was great

[@fredfox3851]

I just want to second (or third) Steve's comment. A fine job, Pop Goes the 60's!

[@theramblers69]

totally agree with steve's comment, as i was looking at the clip i thought the same thing, i guess i could've made my own comment though hahahahahahah

[@lewiedocksey6133]

Yes I agree was a good idea

[@pts5217]

Definitely. Otherwise I’ve had a hard time in the past making out what was said

[@henrygatenby9105]

"Do you want to do 'Maxwell's Silver Hammer?" surely a sentence George never said again.

[@tonylaughlin6663]

Very funny. I wonder if he was being sarcastic when he said it this time...

[@silasmarner7586]

@@tonylaughlin6663 ohhhhh yeahhhhhhh.....

[@brettb4904]

@@tonylaughlin6663 That's what I first thought too, that he was being sarcastic "Do you want to do.....hmmm, idk, ..... MAXWELL'S SILVA HAMMA? (sic)

[@Geritopia]

@@silasmarner7586 George's approach sounds devilishly sarcastic... but who knows? ... other than they seemed to dislike that one... like John would say "one for the grannies!"

[@MsAppassionata]

Ikr. I couldn’t believe he actually said that! Lol.

[@fortyyearfitness]

I feel bad for George, when he came in with the song my me mine, he seemed so excited, but the rest of the guys didn’t show much interest…. So much so that George finally said dejectedly “it’s ok if you don’t like it, I’ll use it on my solo album”. He reminded me of a child that is so excited to bring home and show his parents his artwork that he made in school, and his parents didn’t give him the reaction that he was hoping for….

[@dabreu]

As a matter of fact Paul said I me mine was very nice and made some comments. I have have just seen it in the documentary Get Back. John said somethng it was waltz as if he didn't appreciate it being a waltz as they were a rock band. But soon he is dancing to the music with Yoko. So he liked it. I don't know why you said they didn't show interest. They showed interest.

[@fortyyearfitness]

@@dabreu well, George must of felt that way also, because he did say it’s ok if they didn’t like it cause he would use it on a solo album….I doubt he would have said that if he didn’t feel rejected in some way… again we are talking about feelings, and feelings of rejection do t always jive with the facts of a situation… I believe george FELT rejected by the other guys, even if other people in the room had different feelings…. And plus Paul has said in interviews that they should have paid more attention to George’s songwriting

[@paulg444]

and for the record his solo album has 5 songs that are far far superior to the bottom 5 on either Abbey Road or Let it be.

[@deansusec8745]

@@paulg444 just no. His best songs were on Abbey Road. A couple were decent on All things must pass, but most was filler. He literally put every song he ever thought of on that. All things must pass was also much better when the Beatles played it together.

[@ballin_lain]

@@paulg444 The End, Carry That Weight, Golden Slumbers, SCITTBW, I’ve Got A Feeling, One After 909, The Long And Winding Road, For You Blue, and Get Back were all very good songs. All though I don’t hate Her Majesty I just don’t think it’s a song if it’s that short

[@NelsonMontana1234]

"Let's simplify it, and then complicate it where it needs complicating." That is advice that more songwriters, arrangers and engineers need to hear.

[@hugoklau]

Yet, it ended up almost retardedly simple all the way.

[@jk4675]

@@hugoklau when in doubt, simplify, the acoustic version is way better than the electric anyway

[@milessmith6611]

@@hugoklau Yeah, but that's all the song needed was simplicity. If they all decided to go through the song doing their own thing, then they wouldn't have been able to hear what was working and what wasn't working. In the end, they got the best of both worlds because they simplified the instrumentation while George got to play the bass line on the telecaster and improvise in that way.

[@hugoklau]

@@milessmith6611 They should have scrapped it altogether, along with for example Maxwells silver hammer. Its evident now that it was Paul that started the break-up by forcing his often silly idiosynchrasies on the rest of the band.

[@milessmith6611]

@@hugoklau Lol, really? Scrap Two of Us? Two of Us is a great fucking song out of the Beatles catalog. Yeah Maxwell's isn't the best song but some people do like it and I don't think George or Johns attitude towards Paul made those sessions any easier

[@jeremyroberts4760]

Seriously, is this the most polite “argument” in the history of rock? When I think “argument”, I envision yelling, name calling, f-bombs, etc. This is just going through the motions.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Well stated, Jeremy.

[@silasmarner7586]

I think just the presence of the camera rolling suppressed it a wee bit. Even tho they could've said, "CUT OFF ALL RECORDING DEVICES!" and bashed it out.

[@ahmadalexanderr]

Arguably true, but was it because they tried to behave in front of rolling camera? Remember during the recording of 'She Said She Said' Paul shouted F-bomb and storming out?

[@edwhite7475]

Im a Lynyrd Skynyrd fan...those guys got in fist fights over a chord. This is nothing. Lol

[@capeck1993]

This is actually pretty tame compared to John & George coming to blows a few days later.

[@TheMaxKids]

When George said “You don’t annoy me anymore.” That says everything.

[@newagain9964]

But yet he was hella lying. Hard to negotiate and cooperate when someone’s being nastily passive aggressive

[@kikogarcia4096]

George was being a drama queen

[@NelsonStJames]

Yeah, that line says a lot.

[@choochoochooseyou]

That told me that spiritually he had already left the band.

[@michaeljacobs2954]

George spent alot of time by then hanging out and playing with other musicians so coming back into The Beatles to do another project was like a step backwards for him. Magical Mystery Tour, same thing, Paul's concept with a flimsy script and they just improvised and hoped for the best.John and George weren't excited about doing it. Same with these sessions. They had grown beyond the band, wheras Paul was still putting all his energy into the band.

[@ringostarr8034]

George: dyou wanna do maxwell's silver hammer? John : *strums aggressively to distract them*

[@mrtyreus0]

Almost as if to say, let's just do it, this way..

[@rudolphguarnacci197]

@́ Note: Maxwell's stupid Hammer is timeless: it sucked before they recorded it, during, and will suck through eternity.

[@rudolphguarnacci197]

@́ Hey, everyone has their own taste. I'm not here to knock anyone's opinion. I just feel it's the worst in their catalog.

[@thomastimlin1724]

@@rudolphguarnacci197 I read, but could be wrong of course, that John didn't really like Paul's old fashioned 1920's type songs as Beatles songs, like When I'm 64, Your Mother Should Know, Honey Pie. But Maxwell's Silver Hammer, if John didn't like that one, you would think he would have laughed at the lyrics because the story was such a naughty hoot. We'll never know....

[@pemo2676]

@@rudolphguarnacci197 have you heard the song "number 9"? i think that might compete with the worst beatles song

[@Josh.Oliver.]

Ringo made some great points

[@fifthbusiness1678]

I was gonna say ... he just wouldn’t shut up. And all that playing in the background whenever the others did start talking ...

[@dylangifford6174]

lol watching the get back sessions you can just see the words he's not saying lol he's more annoyed than all of them.

[@keymaster430]

lol

[@ianmichalski7997]

@@dylangifford6174 Often times Ringo was the only Dr. in the asylum.

[@JD0124]

It was great to finally see the entire "argument". As presented in "Let It Be", it appeared way more contentious and ugly. But when viewed in its full context, it was simply a creative disagreement.

[@steeeebs7286]

Exactly, not an argument at all. Just two creative people having a creative differences

[@rODIUMuk]

@@steeeebs7286 yes ..where one was so happy with the friendly debate he leaves the band

[@lindakelly9552]

@@rODIUMuk I don’t know what film you were watching but he didn’t even leave then he left as he was watching Paul and John laughing and singing The Two of Us, it looked like he felt left out. John also told Ringo he didn’t like what he was playing for drums on his Dig A Pony, Ringo didn’t get into a huff about it the way George did, but I guess he was having some personal problems at home at the time so maybe that explains it. I thought Paul was perfectly polite with everything he said to George or everyone else for that matter.

[@majipoorcat]

@@lindakelly9552 watching the whole film you can see the “argument “ in a different light. Paul is frustrated because even he doesn’t know what is not happening with the song at this moment. Just talking about simplifying the song. George is frustrated because until Paul knows what he wants, nothing he, George, does is right. Thus “I’ll play what you want or I won’t play at all. Once Paul figures out he needs to play acoustic, George added his part, John does his part, Ringo his part, and the song becomes a classic. George says something like, “that was quite nice after all the problems we had. It was a beautiful loving moment. A moment he felt in sync with his mates. I agree, George left because he felt very left out at that moment, was having troubles at home and had a two year old tantrum. Happens

[@johnm4581]

I didn't even hear a argument just work

[@charliebadger]

George : "You don't annoy me anymore":. That says everything.

[@joetowers4804]

Right?! That line was demolishing.

[@carlbaumeister3439]

@@joetowers4804 Not really. That kind sounds like something one of my teenage daughters would say.

[@ogden700]

I love George, but that is just typical passive-aggressive bitchiness from him--we have to be careful not to sanctify any one of The Beatles. George's problem in the band (they each had them) was that John & Paul were just far grander musical talents than he was. George & Ringo were 100% essential to The Beatles, but that doesn't change the fact that John & Paul were the writers and innovators & characters.

[@jimmybonar2566]

It's a pretty mean putdown but he knew he'd get away with it.

[@joetowers4804]

@@carlbaumeister3439 fantastic contribution.

[@aheendwhz1]

The Beatles: *release Sgt. Pepper's and Magical Mystery Tour the same year* The Beatles: *create Let It Be album and White Album the same year* Also The Beatles: "We don't get anything done"

[@renanbezerra4871]

many popular musicians at the time released the same amount of music, if not more, while touring (which The Beatles didnt after '66). I think that's part of the reason they felt obligated to put out more music.

[@troubledjoe6201]

Things were produced much more quickly then, it’s just the way they operated - whereas today if an album hits keep milking it with tours etc rather than have some studio time when you’re not on the road and might produce a flop. How many (potential) great songs get lost as a result? By way of example, 5 years is the gap between the last two albums by both Adele and Arctic Minkeys. It’s also the full duration of the Smiths recorded career.

[@troubledjoe6201]

Monkeys. Not Minkeys.

[@aheendwhz1]

@@troubledjoe6201 In Hip Hop, you have similar speeds for artists realeasing albums or mixtapes these years. Probably, it is just harder to innovate in the field of Rock and Pop these days, because so many things have already been done. I don't think any bigger artist keeps good material in their lock only because they think they make more money like this.

[@troubledjoe6201]

@@aheendwhz1 Possibly and interesting point; I'm thinking more about how a more regular release cycle might push/motivate artists to come up with something that might otherwise simply not exist, rather than keeping stuff in the locker. The clip appears to show Paul hacking out Get Back under the pressure of "we've got to get this done because the release date is X". OK, He's not a fair point of comparison for 99.99%+ of artists but I cant help wonder!

[@eazy_austin]

Paul: I always hear myself annoying you George: you’re not annoying me anymore John: *strums Ringo: *thinking about being in the octopuses garden

[@Sirharryflash82]

Yeah, a passive aggressive retort if I've ever heard one.

[@joetowers4804]

"I'd like to be....anywhere but here..."

[@joetowers4804]

"I'd like to be....anywhere but here..."

[@mrsmacca126]

@@joetowers4804 bears repeating.

[@charleshendrix232]

3 Beatles quit at different times. 2 came back. 1 delayed his exit at Paul’s request. Paul then released his Wings album and said he was the one who decided it was over. That kind of chutzpa is synonymous with egomania.

[@thompsicle]

the craziest thing about the whole Let it be project is that it took place just over one month after releasing a double album. Nowadays groups don't release anything for at least two years after an effort like that; let alone film themselves putting together all new tunes

[@gh87716]

Well, most people have normal jobs and can't devote an entire month to something like that.

[@Thejoshrandall]

@@gh87716 he was referring to recording artists, not plumbers and firemen

[@Meme-zc4cw]

They were better musicians back then because they had to be. Didn't have recording tricks and technology that masks mediocre musicianship.

[@chrisr7419]

Because they already made name for themselves and don't really have to tour to promote their stuff, nowadays artists put so much effort on touring and promoting

[@abigailxiao3501]

It’s also because they were the greatest band in history

[@dansmith7919]

The most overblown argument in the history of music.

[@AlvinWar]

@@WaVeY_333 Yes! 😂

[@jackdshellback3819]

Exactly

[@arnesaknussemm2427]

Agree completely. Blown out of proportion to gain media attention.

[@rogert.drolet-videosouveni2433]

For sure !

[@rudolphguarnacci197]

Ain't that the truth?

[@residual_soap]

I was expecting Ringo to chime in and suggest something, and then the three of them simultaneously say "Shut up, Ringo"

[@hankwedelmusic9965]

None of this was ever really meant to be heard... I’m not complaining, of course It is very cool to hear and even cooler to get proper context George doesn’t appear to be as pissed off as portrayed in the movie, John appears to be helpful and Paul appears to be trying too hard to make everything work.... That the song emerged as an acoustic classic is testament to the beauty of their minds

[@somekindofbox264]

What do you mean, none of this was ever really meant to be heard? Where is this audio from anyway?

[@hankwedelmusic9965]

@@somekindofbox264 These discussions were private conversations... they were recorded while The Beatles were getting the songs together...some of it was used in the original "Let It Be" movie but as pointed out by the very title of this particular video, it was completely out of context....EVERY band has these conversations, disagreements and arguments before they settle on an arrangement of a song or abandon it altogether

[@silasmarner7586]

They did a brilliant job reworking it and making it juuuust right in my opinion....

[@jaelge]

You´ve got to consider this ¨argument¨ was all done in front of cameras. I´m sure it could´ve been a very nasty row if they hadn´t been on their best behavior.

[@bbbart77]

Ringo said on Stern that without Paul's work ethic not much would have been done.

[@Matty8x8]

After loving Two Of Us for most of my life, hearing how it comes together is even more magical. They’re frustration thinking that they’re in a stalemate when you can actually hear it being sculpted and coming together.. even through the chaos.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Yes, and once they reconvene at Apple, George says how great the song has turned out after all the difficulties at the beginning, so that was a nice moment.

[@willschrueder9107]

I love how George called Paul “Paulina” ahahhaah

[@JamesBond-ml3zp]

I thought that I was the ONLY one who heard that. He's actually calling him "Bitchie"!

[@valeriesnyder97]

THAT caught me by surprise! I think Paul missed it 😂

[@Boatswain1985]

haha,, I caught that too,, he was being a Paulina

[@lepanhman]

That was good ,backhanded little George comment

[@Foldisfitch]

Glad to see there are at least a few on here who aren't joining the kiss Paul's a-s party!

[@SurreyMan0409]

This is a standard discussion for practically any band. I wouldn’t call it an argument. I mean, there’s this, and then there are the full blown arguments in other bands - shouting, swearing, violence. Thanks for putting the alleged argument in perspective - I wonder if it will make the Peter Jackson cut.

[@Sesamox]

@@WaVeY_333 It's a hesitasion with his voice.

[@duffbaker9554]

@@Sesamox I agree. If it hadn't been, he surely would have edited the offending noise.

[@crusheverything4449]

@@Sesamox - Yes, almost like “umm”, as he’s formulating what he wants to say. Jon Kelley is either a really stupid man or a very smart two year old.

[@BassicVIC]

@@WaVeY_333 “.... was 💨 lack of preparation....” Preparation-H perhaps?? 😂😂😂

[@BassicVIC]

@@Sesamox Sometimes hesitation takes other route. 😂😂😂

[@tp8773]

I just love how casually George calls Paul ‘Paulina’

[@mumbles215]

Sounds like it wasn’t the first time lol

[@rubberchix]

He doesn't

[@Beatles01able]

I was wondering if anyone else caught that!

[@signe2023]

He didn't, and he wouldn't. Look at a follow up video

[@idanwillenchik3050]

Paul and George knew each other even before Paul met John.

[@jimilove7773]

Great layout with the voices matching the pics! Yes being in a band can get crazy.

[@user_27357]

Paul seems like that one person in the group project that tries to get everyone to do their part but having to do 90% of the work in the end

[@debrabeck9630]

OMG, yes! Like every group project EVER!

[@stratcaptain66]

You can also view the situation as Paul trying to decide when , where, why and how. Not cool either

[@MechanicalMarketer253]

@@stratcaptain66 As I understand it, the alternative to Paul deciding all those things at the time was to have nothing happening/getting done.

[@georgethebugeater7950]

@@MechanicalMarketer253 not true. George wanted respect and Paul wanted it to be Paul McCartney and The Beatles. Have you heard all things must pass? That’s what he had, yet John and Paul wanted none of it. It’s kind of funny because Paul didn’t have any album that was even close to All things must pass.

[@KingdomCooperFan]

@@georgethebugeater7950 Paul was definitely a workaholic and a perfectionist, which frequently clashed with John and George's more laid-back work ethics. But Paul was also paranoid about being too controlling and struggled to walk the line of keeping everything together while not being too dominant. John was jacked up on heroin, mentally tapped out and just generally dealing with his own issues of existentialism (there was also some sort of falling out between him and Paul the year before, but what the details of that are still a bit of a mystery). George was also obviously tired of playing second fiddle within the group because he had recently blossomed into a very talented and ambitious songwriter himself (but only so recently that John and Paul had yet to take notice, only really doing so right before the end during the Abbey Road sessions). Combined with the fact that he often had a hard time expressing himself and tended to bottle up his emotions and you have a recipe for disaster. Meanwhile Ringo was just along for the ride because he enjoyed hanging out with his friends. So you essentially have a situation in which Paul is the only one actively trying to keep the Beatles together as both a band and as a musical brand and coming up with new creative ideas and projects to keep that train going, while John and George were distracted by their own ambitions. In short, no-one is truly to blame here, and the four Beatles had simply grown apart creatively and musically and could no longer work together as a cohesive unit as they each had their own styles and ambitions and wildly different work ethics.

[@lowerbullens]

In liverpool that's not a argument that's a discussion with a difference of oppions

[@rudolphguarnacci197]

Then, what's an argument in Liverpool?

[@carlbaumeister3439]

Chicago, too.

[@tdunph4250]

A Liverpool argument usually involves sleeping with another's wife..

[@carlbaumeister3439]

@@tdunph4250 Which means Ringo and George had quite a row . . .

[@tdunph4250]

@@carlbaumeister3439 you would be correct sir!

[@garymitchell8335]

I think the ‘argument’ was pretty civilised. You can feel the tensions, and you do a great job of joining the dots on those, but most workplace arguments could be a lot more feisty. I’m quite impressed at how much they kept their cool. Great video and nice layout for the argument segments.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Things do hit the fan in a mellow way and then they seem to be able to face the issues head on and get past them.

[@milosit]

I agree. I was impressed with how acutely aware Paul was of being perceived as 'the boss' and how that could rub the other members the wrong way. In years past I've read of how irritated the other members were of Paul 'running the show' too often. But here it's really apparent that Paul plays that balance very delicately.

[@hammer44head]

@@milosit - the problem was Paul really came into his own 66 onward and wrote the majority of songs, since it was the rule with the Beatles," whoever wrote the song directs the song" of course Paul would be the boss on most of the recordings. John was supposed to be the leader but he didnt lead them in the 66 onward years and really, i dont think George or Paul would have followed anybody by then anyway, they were far too talented. In reality, there just wasnt enough space on a single album for them to get all their songs on, they were very different artists by Let It Be, and i think Paul was really the only one who wanted to perform live again.

[@WinkDaMan07]

I wonder what caused George to walk out a few days later. I heard a rumor that he and John got into a fight that came to blows

[@larryhall2805]

@@WinkDaMan07 That's interesting. John was a peace preacher but could scrap in his younger days and I once heard that George was as tough as John wanted to be. In their younger years, that is.

[@DrTomoculus]

He calls him Paulina lol Aside from that, they're rehearsing for a TV show that it seems only one person is really into doing. It's stressing everyone out being in this film studio, being filmed, for a project that doesn't really seem like it's a good idea to do. All their conversations being taped and captured. There's loads of people saying George is being passive aggressive. But he says "but I don't think you really know what that one is." Which ends that famous statement, "Whatever it is that will please you, I'll do" now that theres context. BECAUSE HE'S RIGHT. Paul doesn't know what he wants. But he's putting pressure on everyone to get ready for this tv show that's happening in less than 2 weeks, and he wants to get 20 or 30 songs rehearsed and ready, and they're only on SONG NUMBER 4. It's like dude! Your committing everyone to something you think can be done, and getting frustrated that everyone isn't seeing how nice you're being and diplomatic and trying to get a work ethic going. But you've got 12 days to get 20 or 30 songs together, with a group of musicians who haven't performed live in front of an audience in YEARS, trying to write brand new songs, rehearse them, and know them so everything sounds super professional. In a cold, unworkable environment that no one is enjoying being in, while being filmed THE ENTIRE TIME, with every conversation being recorded with or without your knowledge. PEOPLE NEED TO BACK OFF GEORGE. He's absolutely right. Slowing down the process by jamming and improvising? You cannot get 20 or 30 songs ready in 12 days, when you can't even get past song 4 deciding whether to uncomplicate or complicate it. You've got 15 more songs you haven't even either written or rehearsed just to make that TV special last 30 minutes!!!! Cuz all your songs last no more than 3 minutes tops. That's why Long and Winding Road, goes on FOREVER! He's asking the impossible from them, on a project that's not a truly workable idea in the time frame they've got. And being filmed while doing so adds to the drama. 8:17 --- FAMOUS LAST WORDS, as Paul has them attempt a song that describes killing 3 people. But Oh! Darling has nothing to worry about, he will do them no harm. :D

[@DanielC__]

Good comments and especially after the Get Back release. Get Back completely changed the narrative of the entire project and I’m glad it was released over that garbage put out in the 70’s.

[@guitarswhiskeyandgolf]

The other thing making George very touchy was his marriage was kind of coming apart so I think he had alot of tension at home too. Plus george was the kind of player where he needed time to work stuff out. Once he did he came up with cool stuff but it took him a while to craft his part and I think Paul was feeling the pressure of this live show they had to get ready for and so the stress of that pressure and george needing space and time to work it out was not working. For the last 4 years they had taken months In studios to complete projects now suddenly it was like 1963 again where they had to get it together quick and they had kind of lost that ability

[@halweiss8671]

Paul or John would write a song, so they would know what they wanted long before they got to the studio, whereas George was expected to come up with something quickly.

[@neilpemberton5523]

George was very fed up with Paul by then, to understate the point. As early as Rubber Soul Paul was capable of yelling "No no no!" when George failed to read his mind straight away about how and what Paul wanted him to play. If you listen to Revolver you'll notice George is not playing lead on any of Paul's songs. And apparently Paul threatened to veto Taxman unless he played the solo. Luckily for all that actually worked out superbly with Paul playing one of the best lead breaks ever.

[@halweiss8671]

@@neilpemberton5523 Some of the Paul guitar solos were a result of George Martin's impatience with Harrison's songs taking valuable time from the Lennon/McCartney hit making cash cow.

[@neilpemberton5523]

@@halweiss8671 Thanks for that! I was not aware. I did know that George the Beatle was not a fan of George the producer. So that is part of the reason.

[@freebird3004]

@@neilpemberton5523 there was no threat...lol. george martin asked paul to play the solo because george couldn't play it at the speed he intended to play..

[@DEKMAN99]

This is gotta be the most peaceful, quiet, polite, argument, I ever heard in my life . This was an argument???

[@MWGrossmann]

You've never been to Liverpool, have you? The words are polite in the way that being stabbed slowly between the 5th and 6th rib is "gentle". But they were more or less brothers and remained so even after all the legal squabbles of the early '70s, and you get that clearly in both "Anthology" and "Understanding Lennon/McCartney" Oh, and "this HAS be,,,". Be nice to English. Itz uh grate langwich.

[@timothysullysullivan2571]

Isn't it the British way? Like the queen saying "It would be so nice if you weren't here, wouldn't it?"

[@farmhouse78]

They were being filmed. Cameras off, this could have escalated into a fist fight and the Beatles breaking up right there and then.

[@allanm2064]

@DEKMAN99 well said mate. Well said

[@IgnorancEnArrogance]

On a much smaller level I've struggled with a similar problem that Paul and George have. I value the idea of getting the basics down to muscle memory so that later on you can improvise and flesh out the song. My best friend who is also a bandmate, believes in just jamming aimlessly until something clicks and that's the song, and you don't change much. It doesn't matter how long or random it is, that's the song because it happened naturally like everything is jazz. When working with a gun for hire session musician, you can say "listen, this is my thing and you'll do it how I like it, or you don't get paid." But when it's a close friend and musical colleague, you feel the need to endlessly compromise your vision as every musical decision becomes personal to everyone's ego. We should all do what's best for the song at the end of the day.

[@63Baggies]

It's simple. just use someone else.

[@rubberchix]

I always hear myself...you know...annoying you

[@royhiebert459]

I think should let it take it course music always comes together

[@Ukraineaissance2014]

Jamming has its place but structure always produces the better tunes

[@johnNYjets12]

Spoken like a controlling solo artist.

[@whichgodofthousandsmeansno5306]

It is actually refreshing to hear a band of this caliber going through the same thing some of us pididdly bands do when working through the process. Reminds us that even with that kind of success and fame still they were pure about the music literally still as if a garage band. Add to that us hard core Beatles fans enjoy anything that let's us be a fly on the wall.

[@crusheverything4449]

I’ve had countless, much more amplified versions of this “argument” in bands I’ve been in. You get four or five guys in a room, all with several ideas and all wanting their ideas heard and used and it gets to be a clusterfuck pretty quickly. We worked best when a couple of us wrote a song and presented the main structure to the rest of the band, either on a demo tape or by playing and singing it, while the others sat and listened with no instruments at the ready. Add the pressure The Beatles were under, not only to write songs, but to write BEATLE songs and it’s a wonder the fights weren’t much worse!

[@whichgodofthousandsmeansno5306]

@@crusheverything4449 I made the mistake years ago being in a band with my wife. Led to divorce. Egos, creative differences what have you. This is why when some were so upset the Beatles broke up my take is be thankful they lasted 10 years and we got so much great music from them.

[@alanjones4075]

As you say, we Beatle Nuts always go on about this spat between Paul and George only because we have filmed/tape evidence of it, but it probably happened on every album. Many artistes say tension leads to creativity (... or they split, lol!!).

[@alanjones4075]

@@WaVeY_333 I sometimes think I get away with it as well ... 'til the smell hits!

[@johnnhoj6749]

Exactly. On all other albums the only sound recording was for potential inclusion in a record with a little bit of chatter but usually by the time the tape was rolling the song had been more or less worked out. Here what we mainly hear is tape recorded only for the film and is material which wouldn't previously have been recorded at all. Incidentally, If you really want to hear conflict try the Troggs tapes.

[@manofmanyinterests]

@@johnnhoj6749 Which ones? I'd like to hear.

[@timothysullysullivan2571]

To some extent, yes. It was just all building up worse and worse by this point. "Every time we recorded it was absolute torture." - John quote

[@sirAvdul]

Well if these people who mad about these tension ever work in their life, they would have known that tension is part of every kinds of work/activities that needs team cooperation. I'm sure everyone has at least once be mad at your friend/co-workers or vice versa.

[@colinpumpernickel2605]

George is getting a bit passive aggressive, but to be fair being in a band is bloody difficult. Imagine the pressure being in The Beatles.

[@wogfahov]

I’ve had bigger arguments with myself than this. 😄

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Well stated, Jimmy.

[@televinv8062]

Lol!!! Good one!!

[@BeesWaxMinder]

Oh No Ya Haven’t!!🤪

[@glengamble526]

English reserve...

[@silasmarner7586]

@@BeesWaxMinder hah hah hah hah hah!

[@idanwillenchik3050]

A Beatles reunion would have had to be amazing to live up to the expectations people had. In some ways the fact that it never happened was a blessing in disguise.

[@timothysullysullivan2571]

That was exactly John's major objection thru the 70's. They got really close to doing it a couple of times, but then realized they'd have to work up new material together, and remember- the last year or two when still together were disastrous overall (aside from the deliberate truce for Abbey Road- which only took a few weeks to record)

[@debrabeck9630]

Thank you for this! I did think Paul was featured in a bad light here in the movie/series, and in many respects it was undeserved. Two of Us is one of my favorite songs by The Beatles, so I love that final version. I’ve never been in a band, but I’ve been involved in too many group projects in the academic field. Caro in another post nailed it - One person usually ends up doing most of the work, despite trying to get everyone to do their part.

[@StarStabbedMoon]

The problem though is that Paul was expecting everyone to do their part his way rather than respecting the creative process of the band as a whole. The video also points out that John (and George) are trying to get him to lead more on his song and be more specific about what he wants for the song but he doesn't want to be seen as dominating the creative process, so he continues to be vague despite clearly having a certain vision in mind. A leader shouldn't be expected to do all the work, but they should at least be expected to lead.

[@paolaalmazan6441]

I believe Paul really didn't mean to come up as evil or annoying... but he didn't really have that "leading" quality, that leader charisma that's necessary to ease down various independent minds and make them work as one. John might have had it in the early days but at this point he wasn't very interested in leading. I think Paul just was SO involved in his own creative path that he neglected the other's feelings... but I don't think he was intentionally mean to George. Paul might have failed as a leader, but let's not forget that his pushy attitude is what helped to get those last records made.

[@paolaalmazan6441]

@@tk-x7uh that's exactly what I mean... John was good at persuading people and he gave that vibe of knowing what he was doing (even when he did not know a thing about Allen Klein). Paul was right about most things but he did not have that persuasive quality... John was also very good ay convincing a lot of people that Paul was the "bad guy" of the story (to the point where many people still believe it today).

[@benpietrzykowski9216]

Def seems like Paul is trying to walk on eggshells to not offend George

[@Sirharryflash82]

George seemed to be a bit of a passive aggressive personality.

[@benpietrzykowski9216]

@@Sirharryflash82 he kinda did, why we love him tho. Very cynical and what not, but I could see how a controlling personality like Paul would confikct w a passive agressive George

[@chudsosoft]

Right. This argument is about George not wanting to be told what to play. And it seems like an argument they've had a lot, from the sound of it.

[@TheAlibabatree]

@@Sirharryflash82 No one seems to see how manipulative Paul is. He has always been keenly aware of when the cameras are on, and when they arent. Thats the reason why all of the Beatles hung out after the breakup…. EXCEPT Paul.

[@Sirharryflash82]

@@TheAlibabatree Ringo hung out with Paul quite a bit actually. It was George that kind of distanced himself from the others.

[@MarcusIsI]

George: Do you wanna do maxwell silver hammer?? John: STRUMMING TWO OF US IN TOTAL DREAD

[@resedoton]

lol

[@ravelsmusic]

Why did he dread that song man?

[@Carlos-xz1qx]

@@ravelsmusic by then they had just heard short snippets of the song, they probably didn't hate it. It was only after they started working on abbey road, when paul made the band record several takes of the song that they started hating it, simply because they heard and played it so many times

[@timothysullysullivan2571]

@@Carlos-xz1qx i believe 'hate' bloomed after take 50 at some point....

[@DH_Artist]

I noticed that too 🤣he was like “dear god let’s just keep playing Two of Us.”

[@joshmcbride5806]

I totally get what Paul is saying. It sounds like he's saying "Since this doesn't seem to be working, let's figure out the basic rhythm instrumental first, and get that squared away till it sounds good, before we think about what kind of lead instrumentation to add on top". That makes sense to me.

[@dongskijyu8583]

Agree

[@drdrew3]

And then a few months later proves he was right by releasing a monster triple album while collaborating with dozens of other gifted musicians. “All Things Must Pass” showed just how much George was held back by the other lads

[@DH_Artist]

Yup. He just wanted a take of the chords so they can get an idea of the progression, and rhythm, and then they can add lead bits over it and “complicate it”

[@dr.buzzvonjellar8862]

Agree. It’s not that George was wrong, he’s just being difficult. He’d likely been in that situation too many times. Paul knew they had to put the songs on an assembly line and get them sorted, then add the textures. Frankly, that’s a very productive approach. Rather than, say, the Grateful Dead approach of throwing every genius phrase in from the beginning, then trying to pare it down to a cohesive finished product.

[@Sirharryflash82]

@@drdrew3 Has nothing to do with the subject of the situation, much less prove George was right. George was being a pain in the ass.

[@aBeatleFan4ever]

The best comment you made is this: "I don't think this is that big of a deal". I have always found it amusing that some fans use that small snippet from the "Let It Be" film of Paul & George having a little squabble - as a big reason why they broke up. This is just such a minor little argument. Both Paul & George make a real effort to squash it and move on - almost immediately. I have always said about this particular incident... that if you feel this is some big deal - then you must have never seen a real argument. Pretty much every band that has ever existed has had real fights - that would make this exchange between Paul & George seem like a pillow fight at a middle school girl's sleepover. I have communicated with many people over the years - who see this small portion of the LIB film as THE beginning of the end - of the group. To which I have always said... you have got to be joking. And you are also correct - when you say lots of people think this was why George left the group (and those people are all completely incorrect). George told the others he was quitting the group - after he and John had a real major fight (after which John actually suggested getting Clapton to replace Harrison). It had nothing to do with this tiny bump in the road with Paul. The little disagreement with Paul happened - and then was over within minutes... and basically forgotten. There is a quote that I heard from Ringo - where he says that Paul would be sort of directing us in recording sessions much of the time. Then if George or someone else felt Paul was being too bossy - McCartney would back off.... but then nothing would get done. And then they would be like - come on Paul, direct us. So it seems that in terms of "being bossy", Paul was sort of damned if he did... and damned if he didn't. He found himself in a tough position... and in my view - he did the best he could (and the end results of the LPs that were created from 1967 on - speak for themselves... some of the greatest music ever made).

[@prettyshinyspaghetti8332]

It's difficult to properly judge the argument without the context shown in this video. I saw the scene as George sticking up for himself against the subtely condescending Paul. It could sound like Paul was trying to "simplify" George's part because it's "complicated". As we learned here, Paul was actually talking about the arrangment of the song as a whole. It obviously wasn't a perfect conclusion, but with what knowledge we've had til recently, it was a sound one.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

I remember that Ringo quote. It's also interesting how big Paul's input to Don't Let Me Down was. He really doesn't get enough credit for his arrangement skills. Of course having George Martin producing these sessions in a studio setting would have helped. thanks for the insightful comment!

[@victorarena23]

@@popgoesthe60s52 Actually george's Riff and complicated lead part make the song

[@freebird3004]

@@victorarena23 not really

[@markdouglas9182]

Ringo has recently said we wouldn't have made so much music if it wasn't for Paul. You can see he is really the musical director and I guess the unofficial band leader in the last few years. He had to be the true task master to kinda push things along.

[@mattquinlan4629]

@@mp-rn6lb maybe. Or maybe Paul was the only one left that had the consistent drive to work like they did when they used to have a manager (besides Ringo). Perhaps John was looking for a way out and moving on with Yoko. We are not John; we’ll never really know.

[@kennethherbert267]

@@mp-rn6lb The band never recovered from Epstein’s death. They needed his guidance and authority. Paul even mentioned it in the film - they haven’t had a father figure, an authority (they trusted) since Brian died. Allen Klein was the wrong answer. Dick James sold off the controlling shares of Northern Songs, which was probably worse. More than anything else, the business end broke them up.

[@mp-rn6lb]

@@mattquinlan4629Maybe you are right, John was looking for a way out to spend his time with Yoko, or maybe he felt humiliated by Paul's posturing and obvious leadership challenge, which in turn unsettled the other 2 members of band, especially George.

[@buggyboogle9]

I also get the impression that Paul is the leader and is trying to push things through. Even ito enthusiasm, it’s just more apparent with Paul. It’s like John is willing to take more of a step back and let Paul do the management stuff, like navigating the relationships.

[@voges1001]

Facts

[@keithdf2001]

I can't wait until Peter Jackson's movie comes out.

[@grapefruitjuice9473]

@@WaVeY_333 will you shut up?

[@allenf.5907]

Going to be REALLY good.

[@O_Towne_Bear]

As long as he shows the scars as well as the beauty. We don't need another gloss only project. I love (LOVE!) The Beatles but I know there was tesion and drama between them and want to see that as well.

[@Skygreen89]

I hate to be "that guy," but I'd be lying if I said wasn't interested in seeing moments where John is clearly high on h

[@calebalwayswill7423]

Nah that's why he's making it in the first place, people ONLY focus on the negativity. That's just as much a rewrite of history. They didn't spend all of their sessions smashing plates

[@stephenmcnally2590]

I think people underestimate the pressure cooker The Beatles lived in. George, Paul, John and Ringo could all have their moments because like everyone else, they are not perfect. When George was seriously ill, Paul sat with him holding his hand ... that says everything about their relationship.

[@mnmsdaddy]

Anyone who’s ever made a record with people they’re extremely close to would not call this an argument. It’s just how records get made. Arguments employ yelling and words that start with F… but that’s also how records get made.

[@HappySunshineDay]

Right, I hear Paul laying out his own manner of songwriting which sounds like: Building a framework first, then adding the 'furniture' and then the flourishes last. Whereas George's style of writing seems to be hands on, making sound - whether bare bones or stylized from the outset. Just two different approaches.

[@marksevel7696]

I agree. Passion & warfare. Have some balls. People are way too left wing, snowflakey, woke and sensitive these days, in the workplace etc.

[@2DanTube]

YEP - the frustration for me - was trying to get everyone to work on just one song at the time - and if you stopped to talk about an adjustment - everyone with a guitar - would drift off into playing riffs not even associated with the song at hand. I would end up yelling at the top of my voice to get everyone back on track. I finally got a digital program - played all the instruments myself - soon an entire album was finished - solo is much easier than dealing with a band.

[@tomfell1098]

The get back sessions really showed this

[@Ukraineaissance2014]

Yep I think a lot of people in bands recognise this. And the worst part is having these conversation when guitars and drums are around, somebody will either interupt you with an ear splitting little ditty or theres always one who insists on keeping 'jamming' so you cant talk or practice anything. You have to really structure this sort of thing

[@dekafer123]

As always, when I see these conflicts between Paul and the rest of them, i inevitably see Paul being totally normal, and the others either being passive aggressive, or aggressively insecure, or whatever. And yet it's always Paul that gets criticised. It's absolutely unfair.

[@mariaalejandra2913]

Unfair really, especially when we know his contributions to John and George songs.

[@PenguinBooks365]

This.

[@manolokonosko2868]

John was the instigator who got the other 2 to turn against Paul. Yoko was a toxic entity in that studio and John was an asshole. They had to deliver a film and a soundtrack to fulfill a contract and these guys dragged their heels every change they got.

[@michelepaccione8806]

True. The more footage I see and the more discussions I hear between the band members, the more I appreciate Paul's patience (especially with Yoko) and also his willingness to pitch in 110% on everyone else's songs. He never just dials in a bass part or a guitar solo no matter whose song he's working on.

[@monovision566]

1000% this. Paul gets credit for being the villain just because he was still *trying* while the others goofed off and wouldn't come together. They resented him for trying to organize them, but they were often terrible bandmates. We wouldn't have anything from Pepper on without Paul.

[@dn41144]

It's interesting to hear John being diplomatic and trying to stay out of the middle for once.

[@kendallperry9247]

Paul is absoultely right. When you study the basics, you have a hell of a lot more to improvise off of, and you are consequently more familiar with the music on a bigger picture level. Sounds like George just wanted to loosely play by ear, but that's hasn't been very efficient obviously, which was the reason Paul was saying.

[@glowstone6448]

100% agree

[@glenforde6558]

Or George remembered something that had worked at a previous rehearsal, and wanted to give the song some structure he thought the part had.

[@krollpeter]

@@glenforde6558 they agreed who wrote the song will drive rehearsal. So, Mr. Harrison was bitching.

[@glenforde6558]

@@krollpeter looks like Paul was in this particular instance.

[@slammajamma5435]

Yeah, bury George that makes sense.

[@Wildvideonyc]

George is playing what he feels spontaneously. And sometimes that results in great parts. And Paul wants to focus on basic tracks and leave more specific parts to the overdubs. I suspect George doesnt want to lose what he's coming up with spontaneously because he likes it.

[@kevinallison2227]

Yes You've got to catch the creative sound then or loose it.

[@lindakelly9552]

When they played George’s tunes did he not yell out what he wanted and needed on the track, yes he certainly did. And Paul was trying to eat back to basics first and then build on it after. It was his song, he had every right.

[@hejla4524]

Fascinating...first time I've heard the argument in full - Paul is surely correct in what he's saying about not over-complicating things too soon. Probably switched to the acoustic version to avoid further conflict - a pity as I prefer a faster version of 'Two of Us' as performed at the beginning of the Let it Be film.

[@carlbaumeister3439]

I’m so glad they went acoustic on it. Unusual way to start a Beatles album. Fantastic version.

[@neilpemberton5523]

Paul was always correct in his own mind. I give George credit for never taking a swing at him.

[@adamrobinson8620]

@@neilpemberton5523 even to the point of reworking Let It Be in his desired direction years later :)

[@KingpinTBM]

@@adamrobinson8620 Well I don't blame him for doing that. He didn't like what Phil Spector had done to the album.

[@neilpemberton5523]

@@adamrobinson8620 Actually that is the exception to my usual allegiance to George and John. Phil Spector butchered Let It Be with the full backing of John. When Paul heard the result he exploded and left the band. And at least Paul was still trying. John's contributions to the last two albums were pretty weak by his usual standards.

[@margieandposh]

I just watched this for the first time, I like the way you analyze the situation. I believe the Beatles loved each other like family and they were generally pretty nice to each other. We loved them so much and were like kids dealing with a divorce. In the end they were even better and nicer than I’ve always imagined. The Beatles is just a beautiful thing that happened in this shitty world.

[@pts5217]

Paul always get such an unfair bad rap, when he comes across very diplomatic. John and George seemed very passive aggressive, jealous at times, and moody. They were not always the spiritual enlightened angels many make them out to be

[@ricardogonzalez-om4gn]

Idk George sounds like Paul has been hassling him prior to this video i could be wrong but knowing the camera is rolling maybe that's why Paul was being more chill. But we can only speculate because this is one piece taken out of context

[@danielebowman]

They never were. George seems to be difficult for the sake of it and to me has always come off a tad self-absorbed and snarky if he doesn't get his own way.

[@pts5217]

@@ricardogonzalez-om4gn True, but from what I’ve read was that this specific argument stemmed from resentment over Hey Jude a few months earlier. George wanted to do a guitar lick after every sung line (a call and response) but Paul said he didn’t like it for the song...the rule they had was whoever wrote the song would get veto power to shoot something down. George got very pissy about it, pouted, and refused to play anything. In Paul’s defense, it was a terrible idea....it would’ve ruined the song...but George took it personally.

[@pts5217]

@@danielebowman Exactly. Crazy how so many people think George was a mild mannered angel just bc he was quiet in interviews

[@bravesoul5743]

@@pts5217 I agree. A guitar lick wouldnt work on that Hey Jude song!

[@keymaster430]

George calls Billy Preston... Billy: "Hey, George. What's happening?" George: "Hello, Billy. Would you like a gig? It may involve some babysitting and refereeing."

[@indieeasmr7101]

The fundamental problem that every band faces is that music is incredibly personal and individualistic. Anyone who writes a song is trying to hear it in their head the way that they want to hear it, and that doesn't normally line up with how others want to hear it. So there's an inherit friction in any band, some deal with it just fine and let cooler heads prevail, and others really struggle with the ego. Because they can't express their creativity in a way that is satisfying to them.

[@gregbernstein6430]

Great point!

[@lotuseater7247]

thanks expert

[@jjmarcos]

Just like everything in life, humans need hierarchy. Things go much more smooth when there's a clear person in charge.

[@lotuseater7247]

@@jjmarcos That's somewhat simplistic

[@jjmarcos]

@@lotuseater7247 it's really not. Name one human endeavor that functions better without a clearly defined hierarchy

[@seansinclair257]

The new "Get Back" movie proves that they were still very much together, and great friends. It was Twickenham Studio that was miserable!!! As soon as they were back at EMI with Billy Preston, the mood took a complete 180. They were all still best friends.

[@neilafacci5833]

Absolutely a big change in the right way

[@davidpollard6322]

This is great work, Pop Goes the 60s...I hear four guys working it out pretty well actually under severe pressure. Very fascinating inside baseball. Thanks for doing all these.

[@aarfeld]

Another important missing element was George Martin. The Beatles were essentially producing themselves here and, as you can see, it's not going smoothly. They were accustomed to his input in arranging their songs and his absence is notable. They made sure to bring him back for their final project a half year later: Abbey Road.

[@bowlingstoned2113]

They weren't as tight a unit without Martin and they knew it deep down.

[@aarfeld]

They were also undisciplined, but yet resented Paul's efforts to impose some discipline on the rehearsals. Poor Paul couldn't win for trying, and I think that many of John and George's frustrations went beyond Paul, but he ended up being the fall guy.

[@Wired4Life2]

John basically asked Martin that they didn't want him to help them make a "dishonest" album like supposedly they did with the overdub heavy _Sgt. Pepper_ and _Magical Mystery Tour_ or the four-solo-artists-making-one-double-album _White Album._

[@aarfeld]

Yes, in other words, let's not make another one like our greatest body of work, let's make an album that sounds like a bunch of demos. Fortunately Glynn Johns and Phil Spector were able to salvage what they had, but it did require some overdubbing in the end.

[@acatonawall3938]

The other three are whinging away and Ringo's just sat there wondering if he should have beans on toast or chips, beans and egg for his tea or if he should he chance it and hope the chippy is still open.

[@eraserhd79]

Wow. This is so amazing to hear. It makes you wonder was the edit to make this appear to be more of a "fight" than it actually was intentional? Because at the time of release Paul was widely chastised for being the guy who broke up the group, so why not make the footage fit that agenda? Who knows. This was amazing to listen to. Thanks for another great video.

[@Stahlgewitter]

Hearing all this makes it even MORE amazing that we wound up having the masterpieces that resulted, that we all loved. I had always kinda thought that while there were egos involved, they had the songs largely written already and it flowed more smoothly.

[@bernhardsegerer1316]

Paul is like "don`t press me into that role again where I am the bad guy because I don`t like your idea - I will not say that even though I mean it!" George is like: "I already meditated myself above even caring about your eternal bossyness and disrespect, so there" Both are hurt.

[@joelreytejero1754]

Time stamp?

[@freebird3004]

lmao okay put words in their mouth...george was. very bothered as well, none of them were any high beings..

[@thatmarchingarrow]

@@freebird3004 True, a lot of people almost sanctify John and George, which obviously means Paul is the evil bossy brat who made them suffer. Others think Paul was a saint and say the others are the worst. If we're honest, they're all still human beings, and this was a particularly hard and tense period, so all things considered, this was pretty tame. That being said, in this particular discussion, I do side with Paul a bit more. It is his song after all, and he's only trying to get it right. That's only natural.

[@jamesbrasfield2944]

Paul: “Let’s get the confusion unconfused THEEEN confuse it where need be” George, Ringo, and John: *visible confusion*

[@allenf.5907]

Seems feasible now - music de-confused and then confused. They seemed to work that way more often than not.

[@thequarrymen58]

*Confusion of the highest orda*

[@silasmarner7586]

A bit right half brain thinking but then there ya go...... I guess it comes with the territory.

[@ronswanson1704]

I think he means let’s start it simple then add all the flairs and extras after.

[@vailima49aston99]

And after all this! The song becomes a masterpiece! It’s one of my favourite songs from the Beatles

[@MrBobbyFreakout]

I once heard a phrase that has helped me in life and it applies so wonderfully here. There’s my side, your side and the truth. This is wonderful. Hearing the whole context makes this so much more relatable, We’ve all had these moments haven’t we. Thank you so much for this,

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Thank you, Gavin - more to come!

[@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504]

People say believe half of what you see son and none of what you hear - I Heard It Through The Grapevine.

[@westfield90]

Thank you. I’ve always felt how many hundreds of times must they have had these types of disagreements during their entire 200 plus song recording sessions. The songs we all love and recognize today all morphed and were molded into their final versions with much effort and trial. George said something very telling by saying “you don’t annoy me ANYMORE” which means these types of disagreements were probably commonplace. But because those early tapes were never released, people have this myth that the early sessions were all peaceful. One thing I noticed from the 50th abbey road and the white album outtakes is that George had a lot of freedom to create his amazing riffs and fills on John and Paul’s songs. George rarely played just straight cords. Abbey Road is full of them and that came after this infamous argument so it just shows that they had these creative disagreements and moved on.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

I agree. There are plenty of instances where George was encouraged and relied upon to add interesting parts to their songs. Some songs probably just took off and others needed to work them into something. Thanks for the comment!

[@timothysullysullivan2571]

@@popgoesthe60s52 Definitely. The thing with George, and what frustrated the others, including George Martin and Geoff Emmerick, was that it was hit or miss with George. Some songs (including Taxman!) he just couldn't find his lead, no matter how long he slaved on them. Others he finally got to, but took quite a while working things out. And sometimes (but not typically) he could just pop it off. But to be fair, the Beatles wrote and played such and incredibly varied mix of genres, it's amazing he did what he did overall.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

@@timothysullysullivan2571 The songwriting didn't come as easily to George, that seems for sure. I also think the dreariness of some of George's songs didn't excite the others. For a lead guitarist, he didn't do a lot of rockers. Thanks for the comment!

[@stevecarroll4768]

This is so illuminating! I always thought their rift was over George's contribution to "I've Got a Feeling." Never knew it was about "Two of Us." It's really fun being a fly on the wall, listening to how the creative process works. Great stuff. Keep it coming!

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Thank you, Steve, - plenty more to come!

[@AnthonyRecenello]

Paul is trying to balance the fact that he's a naturally nice guy while still getting his music made.

[@MrBobbyFreakout]

And he’s not being rude. No one is yelling your insulting. Just a bunch of guys getting frustrated cos the magics not there.

[@AnthonyRecenello]

@@MrBobbyFreakout well…. i think the other thing here that people dont remember is these four guys are BEST friends. and best friends can be like siblings when they fight. also, when tensions are high between people that know eachother extremely well, they notice all the subtle words at each other. its obvious paul knew george felt he was controlling in the past-and paul was trying as hard as he could to not let it seem like that here.

[@grouchomarxist666]

@@MrBobbyFreakout And because of the bass player's chronic genital itch.

[@pts5217]

@@grouchomarxist666 haha. The long and nagging itch

[@pts5217]

@@grouchomarxist666 One of us has itchy patches/penis scratches/on my way to the pharmacy

[@jesseharradine9861]

I played in a band that did some cool things and this is how we would talk in the jam room! This is the sweet sweet tension of progress in the jam room.... and It fills my heart, it might sound awkward to people that don't get it, but it's really a harmonious flow for high level working. Tensions are high, expectations are high, pressure is high. but you can still hear the respect they have for each other while trying to operate on the highest of levels. It's not an argument ... It's a jam / rec session. normal people are brittle

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Great comment, Jesse. Most people don’t realize how normal this discussion is. The creative process isn’t easy.

[@jake105]

I just caught that George quip. "You don't annoy me anymore". That says a lot.

[@prettyshinyspaghetti8332]

Similar to Paul's and George's approach to learning a song (getting the basic rhythms down first vs. writing licks concurrently), George also brings up that Paul always has his own part written and nailed down before George gets to write his part, or Paul would apparently say "play this." Just more proof that a breakup, at least between these two, was inevitable

[@silasmarner7586]

Yes, I agree, he fundamentally didn't wanna work that way with Paul. He just didn't..

[@fifthbusiness1678]

Or that Paul was better prepared and invested in making one last good record than George. I think he had pretty much checked out at this point, going through a divorce, fed up, etc.

[@sanzen1234]

@@fifthbusiness1678 I think if you are in a band you need to need learn how to compromise all ideas into a song, this song is also a dud.

[@jetsamperes5762]

John used to say they would go off on their own holiday and Paul would write songs and ring them up and say lets record and John would rush to write some stuff to bring to the session. Brilliant stuff but he was rushed and resented it.

[@williamblair9597]

Great presentation on how painful the labor of trying to define one's song to three other people who can't hear exactly what's going on in the song writers head, but at the same time the songwriter doesn't want to stifle others creativity, they know from experience can very likely result in ending up being better or even more magical than the song writer expected. This was the first time cameras were recording the process the Beatles had used to produce their songs in the recording studio for years. I'm sure over the years, there were far worse frustrations exchanged between one another than what Paul and George were trying to express to each other in the short footage used in the original Let it Be film. I've seen garage bands start strapping it on physically over much smaller issues.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Thank you! I appreciate the comment.

[@jonjones1872]

The best thing about this video is putting the text next to their pics!!!! Best idea ever!!!!

[@_SliK_]

I never knew that this argument was edited. Crazy how the editors did this throughout the film to fit their narrative. And I don’t know why people have a tendency to over-analyse a situation. They had rows just like any other really close friends, just like brothers. I hope this comes up in Peter Jackson’s “Get Back” because it will show the events of this project as a whole instead of being one-sided. Great video👌🏼 (I’ve never had an itchy cock)

[@MissAstorDancer]

Yeah, what the eff was up with THAT???

[@kathymacias8124]

Basically he must of had a UTI or Crabs 😆🤣😂

[@AnthonyRecenello]

i LOVE you. these vids are just so interesting as I love going deep into beatles stuff. :-) There is nothing better than listening to the best songwriters in the world work out their music. And the fact that you're breaking it down so well makes it even more amazing. THANK YOU

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Thank you, Anthony - more to come!

[@MartinSoundLabs]

I completely agree with Anthony's statement.

[@frankbarr1101]

Ye I agree , this is all fascinating stuff

[@donworks]

Right on, Anthony!

[@TruenorthmtGod]

Awe I love seeing a man say I love you. I’m not gay just love caring people.

[@cfcantagallo]

When we only hear the finished product and not the collaboration between band members trying to understand each others' concept of how a song should sound, we think of their disagreements as something terrible. But although the Beatles were a little burnt out by this time and maybe a bit tired of one another, I think each wanted to make the song right. I think their breakup happened at the right time for each to discover their own talents. Great music came our of each of their solo careers.

[@gripweed313]

Shame we didn't get to hear the part where George says " hey guys, can we wrap this up already? Ringo's wife is waiting for me"

[@raceyboy]

Eric Clapton is home with Patti.

[@zairaanika4236]

DID HE REALLY SAID THAT LMAO

[@gripweed313]

@@zairaanika4236 I don't believe so, but he did have an affair with Maureen.

[@jk4675]

@@zairaanika4236 na it's a joke

[@lawrencefeldman7744]

Y'all read that book too,huh? "You Never Give Me Your Money?? Whoooo Doggie! Pretty Brutal. In my top 5 Beatles books! Andy's Beatles Gear Books as well. Shout! by Phillip Norman, and Beatles Recording Sessions by Mark Lewisohn. George Martin's books are a whole other thing. It seems the best ones stick to either music or personal lives exclusively. "Shout" actually does a good job melding the two.

[@itsdddaniii]

“let’s get the confusion unconfused, then confuse it.” LMAO

[@txtamaman]

I know this clip isn't about Ringo at all, but as a drummer myself, I really appreciate how Ringo was EXACTLY where he needed to be, when he needed to be there... no jacking around, during recording or anytime else, as far as i can tell.. i feel that only fellow drummer/musicians, truly realize how much Ringo's style of playing, helped shape their sound.... he was a master of feel and timing

[@popgoesthe60s52]

I was really surprised at how closely he paid attention to the other three who were often times huddled together not paying any attention to Ringo. They didn't have to! They just relied on him to come right in.

[@TheNoisylover]

Putting this "argument" into context is what you've done. Thank you!

[@joepalooka2145]

I don't hear an "argument"---- I hear the members of the world's greatest rock and roll band having creative differences about what they're doing. ??? They didn't get to make so much fantastic music without disagreement and tension at times. Especially with someone as incredibly talented as Paul McCartney, who is a total workhorse and demanding perfectionist.

[@wchatcher9318]

Agreed. It's a creative discussion. It's not easy, and they get along quite well and work through it. It's nice to imagine the studio sessions are delightful wondrous places like in the Yellow Submarine film, but it just isn't that way behind the scenes.

[@pepeladdrockperuano]

There were 3 major reasons why they all were nervous and irritated: The first one was Yoko at all times in the studio. The second ones were all those movie cameras following every movement and every little discussion between The Beatles. Third, the frosty atmosphere in that enormous Twickenham studio. I wonder how they could work at all.

[@DH_Artist]

After watching Get Back, it didn’t seem like Yoko was much of a problem. She didn’t really have an input other than sitting next to John, maybe whispering stuff to him, or asking one of the guys on the side to get her something so she’ll have something to do while the guys are recording.

[@pepeladdrockperuano]

@@DH_Artist Since John`s death, Yoko has a veto-right in all new Beatles projects (films, records, books, etc). You will never see the real Yoko in any Beatles project.

[@johnyarusso4953]

It's amazing to realize the Let it be/ Get Back project movie/ movies, album and all the music was done in less than one month. The so called argument sounds to me like working out musical differences in a democratic way.

[@davidrobinson2776]

To be honest, this was probably one of the mildest arguments they had. It’s a big deal because it’s recorded. I think if it had been behind closed doors it would have blown up much quicker and been resolved just as quickly. I’ve a feeling the eggshells they were walking on was knowing everything was being filmed. Then again, after a few beers and whatever, Paul decides to discuss his ongoing personal itch. Lol.

[@dabreu]

I thought nobody would mention that. And that is the best moment in the video. LOL. Hey, how about George calling Paul of Paulina? I never heard Paul had this nickname before.

[@davidrobinson2776]

@@dabreu lol, I know. I have a feeling they used that nickname when he was getting a little bitchy in a passive aggressive way. Funnily enough, Ringo was probably the only Beatle who could just say “No” and that was that. When Ringo spoke, the others listened.

[@Kieop]

why didn't he get that itch treated if it had been bothering him so long? surely he'd had them before...

[@MrGman2804]

Your analysis, with the background, and the voices put against the avatar of the Beatle speaking. It's fascinating, informative and enjoyable. Thanks for doing this.

[@DavidSumeray_BassGod]

Excellent to hear the full argument. I can imagine that a discussion like this came up in rehearsals throughout their career.

[@professorhamamoto]

Not that my opinion, but after reading the transcription I side with McCartney. Frame the house before adorning it with gingerbread.

[@gearoftones8585]

I disagree. Most of the happy accidents come out of improvisation. That's not to say sometimes a structured approach isn't right but I don't think it's a universal truth.

[@chairmanmeow3693]

It was Paul's song so he should call the shots

[@milessmith6611]

@@gearoftones8585 I agree but I think Paul had just wanted to get song form down first and then work on extra bits to go on top. It's frustrating when you're in a band and you're trying to work out a song and someone's always trying something new and you can never hear a clear and concise way that the song is structured.

[@seedyoda5714]

@@gearoftones8585 But you can still improvise within a basic structure, and then those happy accidents can still happen. Paul's point was that _this_ particular session wasn't really going anywhere, so in _this_ instance they certainly did need to work out a clear understanding of what the basic form of the piece was going to be. After that, they could proceed to complicate it with improvisations and what not.

[@timothysullysullivan2571]

I agree- the problem is they each had different preferred approaches/processes: Paul- plan, careful, think, structure (which is why he and George Martin made such a great team- compatible) John- fast, instinctive, experimental. George- do it live but feel your way thru and experiment on each take. This made for creative genius when they supported each other, and creative conflict when they didn't.

[@pancakesandbacon2567]

I'm with Paul on this. It is Paul's song, he is trying to work it out methodically so it sounds good and it's hard to put it all together if everyone is trying to do their own thing. Imagine four people playing completely differently and trying to make a song the blends together. John seems to see the issue and George is just frustrated that he can't do whatever he wants, whenever he wants to do it, while the writer is trying working it out. I think George is letting years of frustration over not having a louder voice on their albums get the best of him and Paul is frustrated because he just wants to make a song work and has to coddle George's feelings.

[@GreenLightMe]

you hit the nail on the head, for years he played whatever Paul told him to play and I think he was being difficult on purpose, he could have easily just played the Chords G, A, Fm, C straight 4/4 and let Paul figure out the lyrics but he was being spiteful and improvising licks, and it's hard to come up with lyrics and figure out what type of melody while George is playing licks on that part. So George knew what Paul wanted he was being spiteful I agreee after years of pent up fustration

[@newagain9964]

Don’t forget George was being cucked by his wife at the time. It’s also why he suggests bringing in Eric Clapton. Defeated bro!

[@taja1976]

@@newagain9964 Yeah George was on a low, going through a hard time, felt dejected and pissed off. He is passive aggressive at this point but I think he had a lot more going on than even the other Beatles were fully aware of.

[@robertthomson5485]

Oddly, it seems like John is the one in the band that is uncomfortable with conflict and seems to be the one that always tries to find a middle ground.

[@Oceanmachine27]

That's a Libra for you

[@timothysullysullivan2571]

When it's someone else's song being worked on...

[@thomasnelson5758]

He's strung out, zoned out and pretty much checked out at this point, he just wanted out. Considering the Get Back/Let it Be sessions took place before the Abbey Road sessions, he considerable cleaned up and stepped back up for those

[@timothysullysullivan2571]

also, it's group/family type dynamics- roles can shift and swap depending on the circumstances and who's 'up' in the situation.

[@anslagstavlan]

Seems to me he was just uninterested and tired, and wanted them to stop whining.

[@ipsurvivor]

Excellent...job of bringing this out. Interesting how they worked stuff out. John being very reasonable...he’s often portrayed as a crank/heckler during the later period.

[@dalhoseo8549]

Most definitely one of the best Beatle-related videos dropped on KZbin in recent times. Will check out more from your channel, thanks!

[@jeanmenard3060]

All this only shows that they were at the end of the road ! The fact that they were being filmed made them realise that sooner ! They did'nt have a normal life, they were fed up ! They needed some fresh air, and to go their own individual way, in their private life and musically. They were so creative and they gave the world so many great songs that will be enjoyed till the end of time.

[@erkaweberhooper3891]

When you hear the unedited tape of this “argument” and read the manuscript it’s astounding that Paul was portrayed as the ruthless bossy dictator. In truth Paul was being reasonable, sensible, and tactful. And Paul’s Hey Jude comment was bang on---George wanted to fill it up with guitar riffs and a bunch of other noise but Paul stuck to his guns and said no--and good thing he did: Paul’s Hey Jude is iconic.

[@joetowers4804]

Very true. Although I admit I'd like an outtake with those solos and riffs.

[@alejandroconstanzo8917]

Thanks to this situation we've got "All things must pass", so grateful Paulina!

[@dinocardamone9586]

I just think it's amazing that they ended up with such an incredible album after all that. I love that you address all of this because it gives us insight into a one of a kind human happening that resulted in such amazingly deep and beautiful art. Love your warm and sincere style.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Thank you, Dino! More to come.

[@silasmarner7586]

To get what they got all done by the end of January showed they were preeeeety busy!

[@televinv8062]

This is an argument? Brothers having a knockdown, drag out fight is an argument. This is a mild debate while having tea, biscuits and smokes. Sheesh

[@TheAerovons]

Yep...Oasis ...now those were arguments! And The Everly Brothers as well...

[@televinv8062]

@@TheAerovons Rog and Pete, Steven and Joe...the list is endless. Yeah, I heard the Everly bros were giant fights too.

[@ThePeperambao]

i am watching this for the third time after watching Peter Jackon's Get Back, and i am just happy this video will soon have a million views and thousands of comments. What a time for life time Beatles fans. And such a great work, Matt. Congratulations and keep digging. This is such a big part of many of our lives

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Much thank, Pepe! It is a great time to be a Beatles fan!

[@miguelvictoria26]

They were so important that every little banal thing they did together, good or bad, turns up as something important for the 7,500,000,000 of us.

[@tyronewhitehead3123]

Well said thanks 🙏

[@Rey__Jan]

I didn’t know this argument was pretty long compared to what we see in the Let It Be film or the Anthology; should have noticed the cuts they made on editing it. But it certainly it gives more context on what they were working on and why they had disagreements regarding their working style. It wasn’t that bad as people made it out to be because they rather solved it for the time being by hashing things out and talking over it. They became sort of productive again after that row, had a few laughs and talks, it was by no means a jolly experience all the time for them especially in Twickenham. They weren’t being at each other’s throats but rather demoralized at how the sessions weren’t going anywhere or how they planned it to be, and they were trying their best to keep up with the pressure of filming, the rented equipment, space, and the stuff you mentioned, which certainly added to the tension. Keep in mind it was barely 2 months after the release of the White Album so they were drained of new material except for a few numbers, and the months of recording and tensions within the White Album sessions didn’t help. Plus, it always intrigged me how George cracks as Paul mentioned the guitar part in Hey Jude that he disagreed on, one of the heated rows George and Paul went through on the White Album sessions. Really had much of a lasting impact on him than what we or Paul think he felt. Thanks for actually bringing that up. Your perspective and analysis on these sessions and the band as a general really gives new light on the overall state of the band this time, how they were working with each other and how they received each other’s contributions. This video and the “All Things Must Pass wasn’t rejected” videos are one of my favorites. I can reflect your work to the upcoming Peter Jackson Get Back movie that gives the session more favorable light, as you both give the band more justice when it comes to their camaraderie even at times of tension.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

I do hope Jackson's cut does show some tension so that he is not accused of a 'white wash,' which several Beatle goofs have already proclaimed - without even seeing it. Thank you for the nice compliment - more to come!