The ARGUMENT With Context UPDATE BEATLES |

[@josephmarshall6599]

“Paul, I mean-uh...” is what I hear.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

You probably nailed it. Makes more contextual sense. Thanks Joseph!

[@josephmarshall6599]

@@popgoesthe60s52 and thank you for the fantastic content, sincerely. After 25 years of reading practically every book and shred of info on the Beatles, both as a group and individually - it’s difficult to find “new” insight and fresh perspectives. You are articulate, obviously well researched, highly knowledgeable and I find the content highly enjoyable and informative. I especially love the Beatle deep-dives. Thanks for the great work! Keep it up!

[@popgoesthe60s52]

@@josephmarshall6599 You're welcome, Joseph and thank you for the warm comment - more to come!

[@arnesaknussemm2427]

Bingo!

[@Hegstuffing]

Yes!

[@deepvoodoo]

I still hear “Paulina.” “It only occurs,” makes more sense and sounds more accurate. I agree about George’s comment about “Maxwell’s Silver Hammer,” probably being innocent enough.

[@ryban1001]

I hear: “Paul, you know ...”

[@robertdominguez6002]

this

[@Beatles60]

Yes

[@josephmarshall6599]

@@andrewcairns8266 I hear “Paul, I mean-uh” or more like “Puh’-i-mean-uh”

[@notvalidcharacters]

@@josephmarshall6599 But there' s no M in it. It's clearly an L leading into the long E.

[@Tracer9GTRider8]

Me too

[@malayali-appreciator-69]

I think I could watch a 3 hour long video on this one argument lmao

[@jackielangley5154]

I was one of the "Paulina's". I still think that's what George said. As I remember from the LIB movie, Ringo doesn't talk all day but at the end (first dayish) he says to Paul I think Get Back is the only good track today. I love this series. Thanks for all your work. You busted the All Things Must Pass myth too.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Thank you, Jackie! More to come.

[@rbadger420]

Another Liverpudlian here. I think he says "Paul- you know" kinda like he's went to say Paul but its turned into a "you know" last minute. Also the cadence of his voice seems wrong. The high pitched "you", suits a defensive "you know" I often hear them giving if they're under any pressure; not exactly screaming vitriol. I think to call him a girl's name so casually would be a bit strange. Is there any other record of Paul being called Paulina? I could understand if its an in-joke but I personally doubt George would resort to emasculating name calling in this context. "Paul- you know" just seems to require fewer assumptions overall. I do wish he'd went home and wrote a song called "Paulina" alongside "Wah-Wah" though. Ps. I also agree that he says "occurs".

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Thank you for the Liverpool perspective. I am content to defer to a Liverpudlian in this matter. Much appreciated.

[@rbadger420]

@@popgoesthe60s52 You're welcome! Love the content, hoping to see a Left Banke video some time!?

[@popgoesthe60s52]

@@rbadger420 You will see the Left Banke covered! They are on my very long list.

[@rbadger420]

@@popgoesthe60s52 Thank you greatly! Best dishes from Liddypool.

[@Beatles60]

That makes complete sense!

[@Justin_Kipper]

Okay, I put George's sentence into Audacity, ran a bit of noise reduction on the guitar playing in the background, and then lowered the tempo to hear him speak a bit slower. At a slower speed, it's easier to hear that George is saying "well, you know" and not "Paulina".

[@christoh711]

Definitely sounds like "well you know". But does one hear Yanny or Laurel?

[@rodjones117]

That gets my vote, for what it's worth. It's a good fit with his scouse accent.

[@TheEvbox]

Minor note but vamp is just playing the chord. In johns instance instead of playing that swung guitar riff he was just going to play the chords to make it easier for him to sing his part.

[@prettyshinyspaghetti8332]

Yep, exactly

[@elizabethburke637]

Paul like ya know

[@richarddefortuna2252]

Playing the chord or playing the chord progression over and over, with little to no variation.

[@PaulDowsettUK]

John explained what he means by vamp/vamping at 4:13 of the other video (#51). Instead of the kind of "podding horse" style at 4:09 (or galloping at 1:18), he wanted to simply strum the chords, because he was finding it "annoying" to do that at the same time as singing. Essentially, he was supporting what Paul was saying.

[@rafaelzengo5534]

A vamp is a simple, straight chord progression, mostly strummed in a straight way, without much embellishment, as both a harmonic background and time keeping device.

[@rocktober1327]

George could of been teasing Paul by calling him Paulina. Good video, thumbs up.

[@Cameron-yz1ee]

Paulina. Clear as day to my ears. Not a question.

[@nicksherreard1215]

I think a lot of people think the Beatles are speaking in their own code. George is a chronic mumbler at times which doesn’t help. Most of what they say is just plain language, no dark mystery. It’s just difficult to understand. You often have to listen to what’s said around it.

[@braenharen]

Listen again .. your confusing Liverpool sing song melodic with a full word

[@deepvoodoo]

Could it be, “Pauline, now...”?

[@jackilyncaraballo6586]

I am enjoying your informative videos very much! This coming fall I will be 70, I hope I remember to say (as I say goodbye to my sixties) “ POP GOES THE 60’s”! I am a life long Beatle fan since their 2nd appearance on The Ed Sullivan show.

[@loyd7773]

Me too. I remember 10 of us sitting around the black and white TV watching them on Ed Sullivan. I was only 6 but it changed my life forever for sure. Never understood why my dad (in charge of the TV) wanted to watch it. Think he wanted to see what all the craziness was all about. How great too have 10,000 girls chasing you down. Well yeah but She Loves You will always be my theme song.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

I'm glad you like the videos. An early happy birthday too!

[@RockandRollWoman]

I still think a trip to Monty Python's Argument Clinic would have avoided most of this.

[@jeffclement2468]

No it would'nt!

[@RockandRollWoman]

@@jeffclement2468 Yes it would!

[@Brunoburningbright]

Times up.

[@RockandRollWoman]

@@Brunoburningbright It is not!

[@thomasspravka1370]

What keeps coming back to me about "Let It Be" is that we are, not overtly but subtle like, led to believe that this is a rehearsal for a performance when actually it is a unique view into the Beatles writing and creating process. A view very few had been privileged to experience and a group dynamic that was completely foreign to the general public's perception of the "Fab Four" from earlier films. Although anyone who has ever been in a band would relate quite easily.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Beatle meetings and discussions are so interesting. We get a good into their creative process during a difficult time.

[@bryonmartin9221]

Perfect distinction!

[@nomehdrider]

Whatever he said he doesn't seem to be trying to antagonize Paul, but who can say? Great follow-up, I really enjoy these.

[@jamesgatson7385]

Hearing it again about George telling Paul, "Let's do "Maxwell's Silver Hammer"', he wasn't being 'funny' acting about it. He was serious.

[@timothysullysullivan2571]

I agree- he sounds totally sincere. His sarcastic tone is unmistakable and not showing there at all.

[@bradwelljackson6385]

He *definitely* sounded sarcastic when he said that. Listen to the rest of his talking and you will see that his intonation and enunciation stand out when he says that. Even if they had only did a couple of quick recordings of it at that point, they (all minus Paul) could have easily been talking a lot about the song and have come to the conclusion that it was a throwaway.

[@LearnMusclescom]

Thank you for your intellectual honesty in re-examining your video and taking corrections where warranted. Kudos!!!

[@SparkyNarwhal]

Wooooooah, if that is “but you know” I’m impressed. But I’m Texan so we don’t get a say in what is proper English at all. Lol

[@L0REN0R2Z0RR0]

Scousers also don't 😄

[@Stahlgewitter]

"Paul you know?"

[@stevestudley4060]

Thank you. I have really enjoyed your insight.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

I appreciate the comment, Steve!

[@sweetheart.nikkilee430]

as a previous transcriber, i can confirm it is soooo difficult to get things right when there's accents and dialects and emotions and noise involved.

[@hungfao]

Thanks for the follow up.

[@nicksherreard1215]

Thanks for the insight into Maxwell. I just listened to the first performance by Paul on piano on the 3rd. Ringo’s tapping along and laughing. It’s only the endless takes that turn everyone against this song.

[@timothysullysullivan2571]

It's also a penultimate example of what John called "Paul's granny music", meaning the old-fashioned music hall style song. So I'm sure John hated it immediately , and in this period, George and Ringo tended to follow John's lead on most things.

[@rodjones117]

It is a shit song though...

[@loyd7773]

That is another thing great about the Beatles. Their egos really didnt get in the way of them producing such great quality. especially for that time. I saw local bands collapse simply because of egos. I don't have an ego problem but I would rather record everything myself. Cuts down on the arguments for sure.

[@SuperGogetem]

I just want to hear the entire Sept.9th, '69 boardroom tape!

[@johnnhoj6749]

There is a recording of John playing a song for the others to evaluate/learn. I can't remember which song off-hand but it was at least a couple or more years earlier. John is initially playing it on the guitar with arpeggios or something else slightly ornate and then stops. He says that it's too awkward for him to sing and play the arpeggios at the same time (until he has practised it, being the implication) so he'll just strum the chords instead. Which he proceeds to do. This establishes that, like many musicians would, just playing the song on its simplest level until they had it solid was a default position if to do anything else was a problem. I think that The Beatles, like a lot of self-taught musicians did and do, often got formal musical terms slightly wrong or used them with a looser meaning than, say, a classically trained musician would. I think that they thought of vamping as synonymous with just playing the basic chords as an accompaniment. In a pre-internet era and when there was very little written material aimed at the popular musician most of what The Beatles knew about musical terms was from their peers and what they had heard in passing without necessarily understanding the exact definition. It's easy to imagine them seeing, say, a pianist playing a succession of chords as an introduction and being told that they are "vamping". That might seem that just playing the chords was a vamp, not the fact that it happened to be an introduction.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Agreed, they may have used that term loosely, not knowing too much musical theory. Thanks John!

[@johnnhoj6749]

@@popgoesthe60s52 Looking at some of the other comments, there are people saying that vamp definitely means strumming the chords while someone sings while, for example, Grove Music, possibly the most established bible of musical terms talks about vamping as an introduction or as an instrumental interlude and seems to be specifically excluding simple chord accompaniment during sung passages. So the difference in formal and informal definition seems to continue. www.oxfordmusiconline.com/grovemusic/view/10.1093/gmo/9781561592630.001.0001/omo-9781561592630-e-2000463200#:~:text=A%20short%20passage,%20which%20is,and,%20by%20extension,%20during%20or

[@timothysullysullivan2571]

Agree. By 'vamp' in this context, John means "i'll just play the chords over and over so we can get it down and figure out our parts." Which is basically what Paul is telling George- wait til later to do elaborations, solos and detailed fills. Which offends George b'c his preferred approach is to just start playing lots of different stuff right off the bat.

[@psychmajortodd]

That was during a demo he made for "Strawberry Fields Forever", I think when he was filming "How I Won the War". I remember it from one of the Anthology albums.

[@rodjones117]

@@timothysullysullivan2571 Absolutely right - most bands of non-classical musicians evolve their own terms for things. I was in a band where "middle eight" meant any kind of bridge or transitional passage, regardless of however many bars it was.

[@darins8756]

To vamp is simply to play a small section of music repeatedly until it's time to play something else. Some people are saying it's a chord but it can be a chord progression, an arpeggio, an ostinato, anything really. In musical theatre scores you frequently find the instruction to vamp a few bars of music under some dialogue and then continue with the song once the dialogue is complete.

[@thomaswalsh499]

This channel is prob the best historical music channel out there good stuff man would be awesome if u did a vid on The Beach Boys lotta topics like their dad and pet sounds all that stuff

[@PaulMcMinotaur]

As a Paul myself... no one says "Paulina" It's always "Paulianna" or "Paula"

[@jimmybonar2566]

I've tried so hard to reinterpret what George is saying but it still sounds like 'Paulina' to me!

[@trimeywatts9491]

Or "palina, its like that" which fits even better...

[@kaspafischer]

me too! still sounds like "Paulina" to me, not "what you know..." LOL

[@loyd7773]

Thanks for the update. Your doing a great job. My wife and are avid Beatle fans. Her favorite song is Don't let me down. So we got in an argument about it being on Let It Be. I said no. So she walks over to her collection of CD's and pulls out "Let it Be Naked". Its on that version. Oh brother. Never even knew that version existed. I stand half corrected.

[@alanjones4075]

First time we all heard it was as a B side of the Get Back single in April 1969.

[@loyd7773]

@@alanjones4075 Yes I remember that single. Was thinking how hard it was to get music at that time. Maybe you could afford a 45, or hope for the song to come on the radio. Man these kids don't know how good they got it.

[@Thomas-uo4jy]

"how long does it take to hate maxwells silver hammer?" LOL

[@judmcc]

I hear "it only occurs when" but I don't hear "but you know".

[@richardbanker3910]

Paul was a bit more conscious of the deadline for getting the songs done while George and John to some extent had a let it flow attitude

[@whateveritsnoyes]

I love this video for basically proving the idea that Beatles rumors or preconceptions are born almost always out of limited/incomplete information that’s often thought of as accurate, despite merely being projections/assumptions.

[@sterling19]

Ah, another conspiracy theory is born...Paul is actually a Polish woman called Paulina! No wonder George is so confused!

[@lg4360]

Best reply yet!

[@Stahlgewitter]

You mean Billy Shears was!!

[@christoh711]

Well, Sweet Loretta Martin thought she was a woman but she was another man

[@BrianJump]

To vamp, in this context, means to apply a simple, rhythmic pattern to the song’s chord sequence-that is, strum the chords. George was applying a wacky-action rhythm to the chords instead. Vamp, in a jazz context, refers to a repeated single-chord motif or two-chord riff used to set up the feel of a song. Vamps allow players and singers to begin the tune whenever they want. Yes, vamps are usually at the beginnings of songs. Great video, man. I’ve been enjoying your content.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Thanks for the clarification, Brian - much appreciated!

[@calebgaddi1428]

Love your videos. Thanks for making them. Appreciate the effort on trying to read every comment. I love watching your videos and enjoy reading the more insightful comments.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Thank you Caleb. Sometimes the comments give me ideas for more videos!

[@happyron]

Looking forwar dto more of these. Like many people i have the complete tapes but never wanted to listen to hundreds of hours, this breakdown with transriptions really brings it alive. I hope more and more of this stuff comes out this way.

[@adrianmist6681]

You’re doing some great work on this, debunking many of the past 50 years of bad vibes on the Get Back project, keep it up, the truth will come out eventually.

[@matthewstreet1961]

Great follow up video Matt! Thanks for all the clarifications. Take care, Matt

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Mr. Street! Thanks for stopping by.

[@Homebrew58]

In Mark Lewisohn's book he mentions several times in the early years portion about John "vamping" on guitar. I took it to mean playing rhythm since Paul at the time was the better guitarist and John was still playing banjo chords. It would have been a term they had all heard and used since their teens.

[@tomchristie3199]

Just different approaches to arranging. Paul wants the rhythm section to 'feel' right for the entire song before embellishing it. I'd suggest he was right in this case - he knew the arrangement they were using was wrong for the song and wanted to reassess the basic approach rather than get bogged down trying to improve it in its uptempo electric form. Once they slowed it down and acoustified it then it fell right into place

[@seanaiello4984]

Thought it was funny if he had called him Paulina but agree it must've have been something like "Paul, you know..." My take on John is he just wanted to get on with the song and working it out.

[@gspublishingdirect1749]

Absolutely love your channel. It’s shows time after time, you really do your homework! Kudos.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Much thanks - more to come!

[@Rey__Jan]

Can’t wait for the next uploads! I really enjoy the in-depth analysis you make on your videos, really ties in and explains a lot of questions people have, giving some light to the otherwise dark original account of events.

[@joopspeth6483]

I think it's a bit touching, you don't call your enemy Paulina, only a good and trusted friend who understands what you actually mean.

[@markjamesmeli2520]

Well....they may have only given "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" a couple of 30-ish second runs because they hated it that much from the get-go(lol). As for John...wasn't Yoko attached to John's leg during most of those sessions? He may have been preoccupied with that. Thanks, so much, again Matt for doing these.

[@saml302]

did they really hate it? I always loved it for its duopoly

[@gripweed313]

I just love and appreciate the in-depth research and details this gentleman puts into his work. Matt, you just got yourself a new subscriber

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Thank you! More to come.

[@wyliesmith4244]

Matt, At the risk of raining on some people's parade, this whole Let It Be stuff really wears on me. It's just not what addicted me to the Beatles. For a break, I watched the 'Hey Bulldog' video that, I presume. was filmed in the studio. John starts singing 'Hey bullfrog' so I guess that the barking helped change the title. In any case, I watched five times in a row, grinning all the time. Heck, even John was grinning. While I do appreciate some of the 'deeper' stuff, songs like 'Hey Bulldog' lift my mood while grooving on the guitar and bass, and everything else."Let It Be' just drags my mood down. I guess that it depends what you want from the Beatles, but from the moment that I heard 'I Want to Hold Your Hand, ' the Beatles were my go-to good feeling band.

[@sethflix]

He said "Paulina."

[@kn1091]

Very interesting I just love listening to there audio cheers mate

[@thomasseery7570]

I think George calling Paul , Paulina is actually a sign of affection. I heard it when I was young and Rod Stewart and Elton John have female nicknames, I might be wrong but I have heard it used.

[@timothysullysullivan2571]

Maybe it's a brit/show biz thing? Keef often calls Jagger "Brenda".

[@trimeywatts9491]

he may be saying "palina, its like that" referring to the act of cleansing something afterwards since that is exactly his position in the "argument".

[@Horiatiki777]

one can hear some slight sarcasm in george's voice when he says " do you wanna do... maxwell's silver hammer" the way he pauses before uttering the name of the song says a lot. i agree also on the fact that it doesnt take long to love or hate a song.

[@Nerkin610]

I think George most definitely says “it’s funny, though, how it only occurs when we...”

[@nicksherreard1215]

It’s over compensation. I know George says ‘care’ as ‘cur’ but he also say occur as occur.

[@stevenbowman761]

This is very insightful - thanks. I'll bet you're right that they probably argued about each record and that a big reason for Let It Be's reputation for being divisive is that it's the only sessions that were filmed.

[@braenharen]

Paul but you know .. the but part fades out that’s why it sounds like Paulina

[@jeanmenard3060]

Keep on going Matt, you are really great ! You are a brother to all of us, you even can be called " a daddy of us all " !!! We all have different opinions but you are listening to everyone of us with respect, even if your knowledge is by far a lot greater than ours ! Thank you so much for your great work ! The Beatles will never be surpassed, till the end of time !!! Thank you great friend ! ❤

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Thank you, Jean. I appreciate the kind words. More to come!

[@jeanmenard3060]

@@popgoesthe60s52 : 👍❤ !

[@liverpoolsessions-beatlesf1554]

Well, cheers to everyone for finding a new level of Beatles minutia that would make Mark Lewisohn blush! lol. So firstly, it sounds like "Paulina" but as others have investigated, it's "Pol' ya na" (Paul, you know) with a quick blurting Liverpool slur. (or arguably "bu ya na" - But you know - with a hard 'B' or "We' ya na" - Well, you know) As a long time obsessor of such things, there certainly is no context or precedent for George to feminize Paul's name. (...But I still hear "House of Paul" instead of "House of Lords" in Day in the Life, so make up your own mind! lol) Secondly, I'll agree with our host that "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" was too early in the process for this to be a sarcastic remark. During the recording process, the band member's generally remained respectful of the songs brought to the table. You can hear the laughter in the very recording of "Ob La Di" and Meditation student Paul Saltzman speaks of John cheerfully singing the same song with Paul in India. It was only after Paul clicked into perfectionist mode that the others tired of such works. The comment sounds more like humouring a child having a bit of a tantrum. Just to change gears but still working on a new song that Paul had brought to the table.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Thank you again for adding to the conversation!

[@1nelsondj]

I've always like John's song the best especially from 1965 onward. I think that's because he was more willing to let the others contribute to the arrangement. For me it makes them more memorable but in later years he said many of them weren't performed/recorded properly. Paul knew what he wanted to hear and how to get it even if they had to spend hours getting it. John was more abstract, he wanted a certain feel and sometimes left it to George Martin and the engineers to get that.

[@ScaryStoriesNYC]

I'd like to know more about the fight that actually led to George quitting, which I think was in the middle of the song, "Get Back."

[@glennsmusic]

It all sounds perfectly innocuous. A band learning new songs, trying out different things, throwing ideas out there, searching for the right style, discussing things, bouncing ideas off each other. The song writer is perfectly within his rights to have final say on how his song will sound. This is Paul looking for the right style for his song. Of course as a band everyone should be able to contribute ideas. If George has ideas then he will put them out there for Paul to ponder. If John has no specific ideas at this time, he will wait and let the others go at it, maybe he will add ideas later. However, ultimately it would be for the songwriter to have final say. I don't know if there is vision to go with this audio but you can't really judge this on audio alone. You don't know what John is doing at this point. He is most likely paying close attention so that he knows what's going on. From the vision I've seen, I know this is true of Ringo. He doesn't say much but he knows exactly what's going on and what's required of him. The other thing to keep in mind is that these guys have been doing this since high school. I feel quite sure they can have a gentle dig at each other without anyone taking offense. And I'm also pretty sure this wouldn't be the first time someone's had a whine because somebody did or said or didn't do or didn't say something. Re: Maxwell's Silver Hammer, I can totally imagine a little grin on George's face as he says this as if to say "I know you all hate this song, that's why I'm suggesting it. I just want to get a little rise out of you all." And right after this Ringo throws a drumstick at him and he runs for cover. In other words I'm just having a little fun, don't take it so seriously. But really, this sounds like a normal day at the office for a band working up new songs. ps vamping is just doing a rhythmical chord strumming. the rhythm guitar in Get Back would be vamping. I think George does it on the rooftop while John is playing lead and riffs. the classic Chuck Berry style of rock 'n' roll rhythm playing would be considered vamping. But it could also be the more chunky style used in heavy rock / metal.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

I appreciate the substantive comment, Glenn!

[@MrTheBaron]

1:01 When you play it at a regular speed, it kinda sounds like George's saying "Paulina", but when you slow down that portion a bit, it kinda sounds like he's saying "but you know". The "b" in "but" sounded softer, but the "na" in Paulina sounded close to "know" if that makes sense. Also, kinda weird for George to call Paul "Paulina" don't you think? Just my 2 cents on that bit. 1:57 I get the mix up with "cares" with "occurs". When you hear how he sings "care" in Do You Want To Know A Secret, or Beware of Darkness, it always sounds like an "urr" to me ("You never know how much I really curr..." "Take curr, bewurr..."). I always call that a "George thing". Great followup!

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Yes, I got an assist from a few Brits on that one. Thank you for watching!

[@johnnhoj6749]

There is more than one strength and type of Liverpool accent and George's in this respect was heavier than the others. That "curr" rather than "care" sound is still heard in Liverpool and was even more common when George was growing up in the 1940/50s.

[@IAMDRREMULAKK]

I'm getting more and more impressed with your videos. You really dissect events, to the point where we are more likely to have an accurate interpretation of what happened.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Thank you. There is a large void of deep Beatles discussion topics and I'm glad my ideas are finding a home! More to come.

[@Fantumh]

I love how people accuse John of being checked out when he allows Paul and George to work it out for themselves. It's clear from what he does say, he's trying to set a tone so he doesn't make anything worse. But had he said more, everyone would have been jumping on John about butting in. Sometimes John can't win with people.

[@lg4360]

For those who think these analyses are pointless, would it also be fair to say studying bird songs is too? We all have things that drive us and that gives purpose to life. For a serious Beatles fan, like myself, this is fun. We love to get into their heads to see how they think. That is why talk shows are so popular too. If your not a Beatles fan (or fanatic) this may well be boring. That's fine, but don't criticize others for finding this very interesting and compelling. We're all just having fun trying to be the "fly on the wall" at a Beatles session!

[@qmoonwalker3847]

Great stuff! Thanks for the great videos. Really enjoy and am happy that I now don't think the boys were at each others throats like it was originally made out years earlier. Please keep these coming!!

[@johnharrison9685]

I think in the previous video you did on this “argument”, you can clearly hear Georgie Girl say to Paul “I don’t care anymore, anything you say doesn’t bother (or upset?) me anymore.”

[@unagjac890]

Oh I hear it now!! "But you know..."

[@nicksherreard1215]

I hear ‘Yanni’ 😂

[@jasonberezny9705]

Ringo for president of the world! 🥁❤️🇨🇦

[@fmel2860]

thanks! I love the detail you go into

[@camrynporter]

Love the content! So glad I found your channel.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Welcome, Camryn!

[@strose2002]

Personally I don't think the argument was that big of a deal. Pretty tame to me. Enjoy your videos. Glad you have more coming about Let It Be. And I hope when they release the Anniversary project of Let It Be, they don't screw us on the bonus out takes, like they did on Abbey Road!

[@Thomasgene]

Damn! Why did I wish/want/also hear it was Paulnia, as what George said! I did not think it was said as/ in "hate' but it was in "look buddy" a calling out.as in a working art enviroment! oh well props to you for "fixin a hole where the rain comes in" BTW it shows how something you want to believe can be really far away from the truth! Ringo Drum God Knows how to be a good band mate to 3 Dejas! Face it when your working with Paul McCartney now known as "Paulina", John Friggin Winston Lennon, and Guru George Harrison it is best to be quiet. Actully it's best! as is he! Love the question about "how long does it take to hate Maxwell Silver Hammer" BTW I had to go back several times to transcribe what you said about what they said. Love your hard work, great job.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Much thanks! I appreciate the comment.

[@billslocum9819]

George clearly says "Paulina," and it fits the moment because in his eyes Paul is throwing a bit of a hissy on how to play his song, and George is mock-teasing him on it, not seriously but in a jokey way suggesting his fussiness is effeminate like guys of another day would. "it only occurs" sounds like an accurate correction, and closer in spirit to the conversation as I hear it.

[@Bearschoice]

They were a group for a long while by this point. He had probably been calling him that and Paul was not offended.

[@hauntboy]

They'd been friends since 1954 when they met on a bus en route to school, and George used to call him Paulie in those days, so maybe it's just a joke variant on that.

[@hauntboy]

Just to add to that, if you watch the movie Birth of The Beatles, John Altman (Nasty Nick from EastEnders who played George) can be heard calling Rod Culbertson (who played Paul) by the name Paulie. Pete Best was helping with this movie, so would have known about this.

[@hauntboy]

@@Bearschoice I think you're right, just a variant on 'Paulie' and no offence to him. See my other 2 comments re this above.

[@hauntboy]

@@melvynobrien6193 Yeah, I've changed my mind, it isn't Paulina, and why say it like that anyway at the start of the sentence. I dunno what he says.

[@kingzing9865]

I feel that George changed his mind somewhere down the line, and pulled back on All things must pass...to keep it for himself....

[@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504]

It doesn't really sound like a Beatle song anyway.

[@timothysullysullivan2571]

@@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504 I agree- just can't see that song fitting in any of those albums in that time. I think also they failed to get the right feel/arrangement so tabled it. But it was probably more John & Paul pushing it off than George.

[@douglassaul1694]

Awesome Channel AGAIN! THANKS 😎

[@popgoesthe60s52]

I appreciate the kind words, Douglas!

[@guyincognito5706]

Great points. And 4:40 I agree. When I saw your previous video, I assumed John is staying out of it because it’s between George and Paul. And while John stays out of the discussion, I believe he can be heard in the background rehearsing some of the guitar parts. There are occasions where John is disinterested and tuned out, but to me, this was not one of them.

[@tiagoylospajaros]

Love your videos Matt!!

[@Bearschoice]

He said Paulina

[@petabulmer7345]

I just came from the first video to this one, I hear it too.

[@psychmajortodd]

This one and #051 were very interesting. I seem to recall when I was watching the Anthology shows that it was implied that George left on the day when he made that statement "I'll play whatever you want me to play or I won't play at all". However, when you listen to the entire conversation, it kind of puts his statement in a different light.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Yes, this event has been poorly reported and from it, myths have emerged. Thanks for the comment, Todd.

[@simonandrewx]

It's not But you know it's "well ya know" And I watched my DVD of let it be and I'm somewhat a McCartney fan at this point. I didn't leave him til after 2002 so later Beatles Paul gets balance from me. That being said... Paul in Let it Be is very epically slappable. There's this bit where Paul is moaning to John about George, John looks like he's already wishing he was at home. We've all had days where the hyper hyper "come on guys" guy in your face is in danger of getting a punch. I think they felt like this a lot with later McCartney.

[@captinbeyond]

Hearing these little spats or differences gives understanding to why George continued to write songs well into the 70's about his freedom from "towing the line". I wish John had lived longer because I'm sure they'd given us at least one or two more albums over time.

[@MacAisling]

From the few bits I’ve seen you present so far, Ringo is coming across as very professional to me. Also, nothing feels like a real argument or clash of personalities, just the sort of frustratingly unproductive discussions you might expect to come up when you are working on a project under prepared and on a deadline. You hear worse stories from film productions that have started filming without a finished script.

[@abrahama2643]

Love the channel. I'd like to see videos about different fights the had. Especially stories of times one of them walked out.

[@sirarmysuit9848]

I'm from Northern England myself. George says But You Know, not Paulina

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Thank you, Sir! This is helpful.

[@palacerevolution2000]

Good clip; well presented. I would go even further in the feel that comes through from John. IMO he sounded like the smart guy in the room (w/ Ringo). He knew Paul was right. At first I sided a little bit w/ Paul because I know how frustrating the pressure is when there is a deadline, a brand new song that isn't clicking, and so much water under the bridge w/ a band member that every comment seems loaded. I have heard George in many clips sound despondent and cranky. But whew - Paul does wear you down after a while. Looking in from the outside you want to go "Paul, just shut up for a minute. It will happen then".

[@trimeywatts9491]

I have to agree with the bloke who suggested "palina" , not "Paulina". They sound identical, but "palina" fits the subject of the discussion best.

[@notvalidcharacters]

You actually think he was injecting a random reference to the La Palina restaurant in Brooklyn New York? Was it lunchtime? Yeah I had to look that up to get any meaning at all for the word "palina".

[@chriswalker8844]

The Beatles used to take the piss out of my own accent which is a Yorkshire accent. I love it when i hear it used on outtakes and especially in the song You know my name-look up the number As we know George had a thick Liverpool or Scouse accent which he never tried to disguise or Americanise in his singing.

[@walesdad]

Non Scouser here ,it definitely sounds like "Paulina" to me.

[@jean-marieboucherit4716]

Excellent! Fascinating.

[@tdunph4250]

Great that some discrepancies were cleared up. However, I do believe there was a Paulina present. She was the lady who dusted off the amps and emptied the ashtrays.

[@tdunph4250]

@@lucasoheyze4597 All this hate-on for Yoko is so 1969. I wouldn't have expected it now in 2021. Sure she was a bit of a pain in the ass but she was Lennon's wife and partner for God's sake. So essentially, I guess many of the anti-Yoko are saying that John mad a wrong/bad choice in finding a mate huh? John wasn't an idiot, no one pulled the wool over his eyes. Or are some of you saying he was an idiot for picking Yoko?

[@popgoesthe60s52]

I think some humor about Yoko is warranted. Of course there is a line of going to far, which I don't think this guy did. I do plan on a deeper dive on Yoko, her background and her affect on the group, so stay tuned!

[@tdunph4250]

@@popgoesthe60s52 definitely looking forward to it. Your channel is awesome!

[@justlookingaround9834]

@@tdunph4250 She was like a human limpet mine during these sessions, it was even then a bit embarrassing.

[@jessejordache1869]

I didn't know the other Beatles hated that song, I only knew that I did. Paul's great if you can keep him away from the clarinets and pork-pie-hats and get it through his head that not every album needs a ragtime.

[@OnePost909]

Given that there's so much b.s. about the Beatles online (including at Wikipedia), and given that the Beatles in 2021 still fascinate young people (and why not? Their music is great!), you, sir, deserve hundreds of thousands of clicks, if not millions. Thank you for your efforts. But you should correct a few of your transcriptions, as noted below.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Thank you for the warm comment. I think its important that we get more of their history corrected now so that younger generations can more fully appreciate it. Thanks for watching!

[@SuddenlyAliens]

Great observation that John was just--well, observing! One thing I've noticed listening to these tapes is how often John brings up things that were referenced days earlier (and half the time it seems like the others don't even notice it). One that stuck out to me was how Paul compliments the flutes on a canned heat song and an entire week later, during the lunchroom tape, John specifically says he "can't hear the flutes" when he's doing arrangement. It's hard to call someone who is listening that closely disengaged--though it comes across as a bit passive aggressive at times when he's clearly not speaking directly to the others about how he feels.

[@popgoesthe60s52]

Yes, I will be doing another video that shows John's engagement more upfront, dispelling the myth that he was bored and didn't want to be there. Thanks for watching.

[@davidrobinson2776]

Exactly. John knew how to handle these situations through experience. If you took sides all hell would break loose. Gentle nudging was the order of the day and although I think John 100% agrees with Paul, he was all too aware of how “two against one” would turn out. Also, I’m not a Scouser, I’m a Geordie like Eric Burdon but I think George is saying Paul, y’know. Not so much slow as quite fast like Northerner are apt to do when they need to make a point.

[@christianstough6337]

great catch.

[@hellfire7289]

Thank you for defending George💙

[@tyronewhitehead3123]

Listened again I asked other people and they all agree Paulina listen accents can be tricky thanks I enjoyed watching both parts 🙏

[@thejahlion]

I understand the adjustment. It does sound like, Paul, you know or something like that (I also hear the Paulina at first), but it wouldn't be so bad if he normally called him Paulina endearingly. It's funny and cute.