Popper the Poltergeist (Seaford, Catholic Family Poltergeist, RSPK) - Jimmy Akin's Mysterious World

[@carolinafine8050]

I have to thank you guys… my kids and I sit around listening to your shows like families in older days sitting around the radio. My 11 year old son gets excited and interested at one point. Then my younger daughter perks up with questions on some other topic. It really brings us together as a family

[@Matrix-tx5ff]

Mine too! I’m 24, my brother is 21, and my parents all listen to this when they come to visit me

[@Aldegundis]

People probably pronounce parapsychological Popper poltergeist phenomena pivotal.

[@kimfleury]

Precisely!

[@3172bees]

Perhaps

[@stevehammett2008]

Preposterous!

[@laurakatherine9836]

say that 5 times fast!!

[@stananders2333]

Poppycock!

[@nathanbustamante1525]

Jimmy is so skilled at presenting these mysteries in such a compelling way. Another great show! I hope you'll consider my humble opinion. While I agree that we should not always resort to saying it's demons, I don't think they were adequately ruled out for a few reasons. 1) Demons don't only affect holy objects when terrorizing people, so the fact that other objects were knocked over or spilled doesn't show that it's not demons. 2) The church didn't perform an exorcism on the property, did they even bless the house? The fact that the church authorities seemingly didn't do anything to help is pretty strange to me. 3) We know by faith that demons do exist and in fact do terrorize people and properties. It is not certain that telekinetic abilities in humans exist. Therefore the demon hypothesis must be more plausible simply because it is certain that it could have happened. It is not certain that telekinetic powers from an emotionally distressed boy could have been the cause.

[@FultonSheenClips]

Always a great day when Jimmy uploads! :+)

[@triconcert]

I thoroughly enjoyed the logical and 'search for evidence' flow. Fascinating!

[@Troy701]

Another fantastic episode. Not the explanation I was expecting - made for wonderful listening.

[@nickj7980]

just started listening. my first thought when i heard the nickname "Popper" was to wonder if it was a play on "Topper", the fictional character to whom a couple of ghosts would regularly appear. the television show would have gone off the air only a few years prior.

[@stephenjohnson7915]

Great story, but I think “we don’t know” is the best answer here. The Freudian speculation is unconvincing, to say the least. I also think the spiritual hypothesis was dismissed too quickly. The “bottom line” comes across as a conclusion in search of validation.

[@ricdimarco1499]

Completely agree. Jimmy is usually the first to point out when data is cherry picked to fit a hypothesis, yet he seems to fall directly into it here to support to James-centered PK theory. The analysis that the bottles had some connection to the mother and that the occurrences affected parents’ spaces really don’t seem to hold up. Plastic dolls, porcelain figures, plates of bread, nightstands, dressers, and unidentifiable “cracks” don’t fit the hypothesis well at all.

[@biggles1852]

I agree and I couldn’t help being reminded of high school lit classes where the teacher is making references to symbology (names, etc) in books but to me it’s not credible

[@migueljose5673]

This poltergeist account, though interesting, left viewers without a clue as to the cause. The speculative psychological explanations were ridiculous.

[@joniseith2227]

Why wouldn't anyone consider that it was a soul in Purgatory trying to get their attention. There have been cases where souls in Purgatory are trying to get people to pray for them.

[@chryphex]

Amazing! Seaford is my hometown and I've never heard of this one!

[@cmendonca447]

Thank you for this episode. It was Very informative

[@christinag.8832]

Interesting observation by my daughter: must of the products that were thrown around had to do with purity and cleansing.

[@kimfleury]

But that's what's in most of my cupboards. Laundry cleaning products in the basement, ironing and dishwashing cleaners under the kitchen sink, first aid sterilizing agents along with soaps and shampoo in the bathroom. I can't think of anything in a bottle that's not used for cleaning being stored in those places.

[@biggles1852]

But his dad would have had beer at least, and milk came in glass bottles. None of those broke. I love this observation but have no idea what it means

[@Ash-js2ig]

Maybe she cleaned too much. I had family members who mom's would kick the kids out when cleaning.

[@SaraHunter-l3l]

Thanks, Jimmy!

[@joeb5502]

These story episodes are my favorite!

[@austinkairnes5549]

great episode as always! thank you

[@theburningelement.6447]

I'm a Buddhist, I enjoy you're show we actually believe in ghosts

[@JimmyAkin]

Glad that you enjoy the show and that we have something in common! May God bless you!

[@williamguertin8342]

I dont understand how Jimmy only has 51K subscribers I should think it would be a lot higher.

[@williamguertin8342]

@FirstJohn2.12-17 He should do a show on the mystery of why people are not following.

[@mastermindemotionsnailhurt]

Episode request/suggestion: "Sheela na gig" appear all over Europe and have featured in shows and movies like "The Third Day" and the A24 film "Men." EDIT - but their origin is a mystery.

[@juliuscaesar3346]

Another case of high strangeness one could say ,we have the Sherman’s from Utah ,the lutz carry on at the amityville house,umpteen German surnamed people disappearing from national parks,Forrest’s etc .

[@markanderson535]

Another great episode.

[@markiangooley]

If Wikipedia’s article on Kaopectate is correct, the stuff was originally kaolinite (the big mineral in china clay) and pectin, for a while replaced by attapulgite (another clay mineral, this one found in fuller’s earth) and only after that was banned in the U. S. In 2003 did a switch to bismuth subsalicylate happen, with attapulgite still being used in Canada. I recall having seen for a few years Pepto-Bismol liquid with no bismuth subsalicylate but rather kaolinite as the active ingredient! It now seems to be bismuth-based again. So the two brands have a tendency to turn into each other! Calling the phenomenon the Popper Poltergeist brought to my mind the classic children’s book Mr. Popper’s Penguins, which is quite unrelated.

[@joelmontero9439]

When will Jimmy do an episode just on Dreams and dream interpretations. God bless you two guys, this is the best channel out there!

[@user-ks3qr5fk6m]

I think he already did.

[@joelmontero9439]

@user-ks3qr5fk6m I don't think he has tho, he's done one on the Mystery of sleep

[@johnguerriero4050]

Try the Why files also a channel called Thoughty 2

[@TheySt0leMyUserName]

I would like to add this about polygraphs. They are inadmissible in court but if you refuse a polygraph it can be said you refused it. So whether you pass or fail they cannot say but they can say if you said you wouldn’t take it. This is from my husband with a criminal justice degree and experience in that field, but it probably also matters region to region.

[@jesse40900]

It was James Jr in the Dining Room with the Candlestick!

[@tonyl3762]

I agree with other comments about the lack of attempt at scientific control and experimenting such as observing what happens when different combos of people in the family are present in the home or removed. Perfect test cases when family moved out certain nights. Hopefully the Rhine Institute does a better job these days with testing and experimenting in such cases. Seemed like this aspect was worth mentioning.

[@krzy1446]

There is a smidge of an ethics concern here too. You can't just scientific method people into potentially dangerous situations. That is one reason why medical research can be very difficult to carry out for low risk groups

[@notquitehumanPBJ]

Great work 👍

[@nightyew2160]

May God continue to bless your work and St. Michael protect you all.

[@maxstucki4756]

Great episode!

[@DivineMercyCatechesis]

Jimmy, what are your thoughts on The Warrens and are you going to do an episode on the Amityville case?

[@maggiesace389]

I listened to all this? To hear about "repressed anger" and blaming boy? ALL this patient sifting through evidence, and such finger-pointing at boy with NO evidence! 🤦‍♀️ what a waste of my time!

[@ricdimarco1499]

I usually love Jimmy for his thorough and thoughtful analysis, but I’m afraid I agree with you here. The belief in the existence of a supernatural realm, in which spirits and things of that nature routinely interact with the physical world is (as Jimmy likes to say) a “human universal.” It has been observed and experienced and documented for millennia by people across cultures and from diverse religious backgrounds. That prayer can positively affect such instances is also well accepted and established. The idea that a 12 year old kid has so much repressed anger that he would engage in a poetic fit of psycho kinetic rage that would then spontaneously resolve AFTER the home situation got demonstrably more stressful is, to say it nicely, not nearly so well established. Love Jimmy, but this analysis really seemed like a conclusion in search of evidence.

[@seanmalone6487]

I completely agree with you. The treatment of the boy was absolutley ridiculous, not to mention harmful to the boy. I've been in situations where everyone suspects you and nothing you say or do can ever exonerate you, and it's a powerless and hopeless place to be. It's a horrible thing to do to a kid. What really stands out to me is that this family was Catholic yet none of them took the spiritual side of things seriously. The mother was even willing to contact a psychic medium at one point. Talk about abandoning your faith! If they took their own beliefs more seriously, perhaps they wouldn't have latched onto James so hard they literally ended up thinking he had superpowers. The wisdom of man is truly, laughably, foolishness to God.

[@tonyl3762]

Just had my roof replaced. Those turbines are for ventilation for attic. Unless there is a difference of terms, I don't think they are associated them with chimneys/fireplaces.

[@WarpStims]

They can also be installed on chimneys for the same purpose, drawing hot air and smoke up and out! They help if your chimney is a little narrow or something and takes too long to warm up and expel smoke

[@SuzA8110]

That family was so lucky that no chemicals mixed together and formed a poisonous gas!

[@JMJ-Jim]

Just discovered your podcast. Thoroughly enjoying it. One counterpoint I have in regards to the dismissal of any potential for demonic involvement due to the minimal destruction of religious items is look at the effects the encounters had upon the family. The accusal of James Jr, the children's fear, and most intensely Mrs Herman breakdown to turn to mediums and occultists. It sounds like the family was being tormented and started to look outside of Catholicism. Based on the accounts of exorcists (Fr Chad Ripperger PhD, Fr Carlos Martins) demons are so intellectually superior that they're playing 4D chess against us while we think we're playing checkers against them. Both exorcists also observe that the diabolic tries to hide their infernal natures, perhaps in this case by acting as an ordinary poltergeist. However, the demons will occasionally slip up revealing themselves; this slip up could be seen in attacking the holy water and holy statues despite predominantly focusing on the destruction of bleach bottles and perfume. In essence, the demonic is trying to hide so the Church doesn't step in which permits the devil to oppress the Herman family to familial divide and seeking other spiritualities. In conclusion, if the demonic was involved, it wouldn't exclusively nor predominantly attack religious items. Rather it would focus on the destruction of unity and sow doubt in God and His Church which an arguement could be made for in this case. For further evidence of diabolic strategy, I highly recommend Fr Carlos Martin's "Exorcist Files." Fr Martin recounts his cases, discreet background of the subjects, and his experiences. They are told via audiodrama which can be intense.

[@JimmyAkin]

It's true that demons are so much smarter than us that they can play 4-D chess. The problem is that this argument can be used to argue that ANYTHING is part of a demonic trick (including all of modern technology, and even the Church itself). It does not constitute evidence that something IS a demonic trick. Thus, the prudent course is to trust that God is in charge and generally won't let demons systematically trick us. We should follow the evidence that we have, trust God, and not worry about demons until the evidence clearly indicates their involvement.

[@JimmyAkin]

Glad you're enjoying the show, and thanks for your kind words!

[@Sitzenleben]

I disagree there is plenty there to say it could be demonic especially as the effect was to sew division within the family. Upsetting peace, causing division and fear is part of the evil ones game. Bring in a priest to bless the house and it occupants could help the familiy and potentially end the whole thing if the evil is centered on the house and not its occupants

[@seanmalone6487]

Dude, I love this comment. I really think Akin knows better, he just wanted the telekinesis thing to be real. He wanted it to be real so bad he ignored the better option, the one you suggested, and tried to make this kid look like he belongs in a comic book.

[@CamGaylor]

This kind of story creeps me out.

[@nickmedley4749]

The implications of this are incredible, God is good.

[@darlameeks]

Fun video! There is just so much we don't know about the power of the human mind and heart.

[@anonymouscrank]

I think repressed rage is quite common. I'm surprised RSPK isn't more of a "normal" thing.

[@seanmalone6487]

Yes. To me, James' emotions seem entirely normal and understandable. Situations like his are quite common. In fact, kids with worse home lives are also common, naturally producing stronger emotions in those kids, yet you never hear of any of them exhibiting superpowers. What's extraordinary to me is how far naturalists will go to explain away something clearly supernatural. In my opinion, James was targeted because they were desperate to come up with *something* to make sense of what was happening. Understandable, but unfortunately at the expense of the boy. I can't imagine how damaging it was for him to have the whole world be resolutely committed to blaming him for everything.

[@markmills1135]

It would seem a logical test would have been to bring a bottle or jar into the house with the family absent and challenge any entity to open it and spill.its contents, thus proving or disproving the culpability of any family member.

[@gaspartiznado6418]

I'm all for the spoopy feels. Especially if it's Catholic.

[@Lilac-sl9he]

Need update on where are they now

[@nightyew2160]

If it was psychokinesis, it sounds like it was completely uncontrolled and not deliberate. Therefore, I don't see any reason it couldn't affect an unseen object just as easily as a seen object. Also, it could happen while sleeping, especially if the person is dreaming about something. Also, Jimmy brought up the possibility that the kids could have been pretending to sleep. I have done this myself when I heard my parents coming to check on me and I knew I was supposed to be sleeping. James may have felt extra pressure to pretend to be asleep since he was getting blamed for everything.

[@seanmalone6487]

Is there any evidence for telekinesis in real life? This story actually happened in the real world, you know. I'm kinda shocked that Akin's actual bottom line was the boy had superpowers.

[@gor764]

Have anything special planned for episode 300?

[@PatMcAnn]

Alternate episode title: Pivotal Popper Poltergeist Provides Perplexing Puzzle.

[@myrrhsolace5875]

If this RSPK is generated by the boy or some other member of the family, why would we have no reports of activity occurring when the family stayed with friends and neighbors? Presumably James is carrying all his psychological baggage with him whereverhe goes.

[@tonyl3762]

I was thinking the same thing. I was expecting that to be part of the story and evidence to further prove the PK originates from James. Seemed like a very basic thing to test out. Seemed like this consideration came up in other poltergeist episodes.

[@tonyl3762]

@Jimmy Akin This is a good question.

[@erric288]

I've heard of children who only have behavioral issues at home, but not at school or other places. Perhaps his subconscious felt "comfortable" acting out at home only?

[@ricdimarco1499]

And why would this deep emotional trauma spontaneously resolve AFTER a period of intense psychological distress and haranguing *by the father*? I hate to say it, but I think Jimmy’s analysis might be way off base, here.

[@johnjon1823]

Back then Kaopectate was NOT the same as it is today. The original formula is only available for farm animals, sadly. It was NOT the same as Pepto. Pepto you would use for an upset stomach, Kaopectate was much better for diarrhea, it worked much better for that than Pepto, and despite the lying ads, the old formulation of Kaopecate was lightyears more effective. That product is one among many ruined over the years. Beamans licorice flavored gum was ruined in the last 30 years or so, they removed the pepsin I believe and ruined the product, it is nothing like it was. Also, in NY state they have ruined apple cider, making it essentially nothing more than apple juice not anything like what cider actually is. The required processing to "protect" the public from something nobody ever got sick from made it lousy and had ruined fall and cider and donuts as normal part of the fall. I would also mention the way they ruined really effective cough syrups with codeine in them. Super effective for a good night's sleep. Fabulous. Let's not forget the oil of cloves for tooth aches easily available and very effective, now you pay fortune for some odd, overpriced nonsense in a tube.

[@kimfleury]

Yikes! I wonder if I ever had cough syrup with codeine in it? I developed an allergy to codeine, causing hives, with risk of anaphylaxis. I'd have to read the ingredients carefully, and not count on anyone else to pick up some cough syrup for me when I'm sick. And I remember life before ingredient labels!

[@johnjon1823]

Not in any over the counter drugs any more they took it out due to druggies using it to get high. But it was really wonderful for coughs, plus it would knock you out for sleep, assuming you didn't have an allergy, in which case I suppose for you it might knock you off rather than out. I had a medical dye that caused issues, they have to pre-treat before they use it on me. I guess you can get an allergy at any time. That kaopectate was great stuff under the old formulation, now it is available at like the farm and family store, for your cattle. I envy the cattle.@@kimfleury

[@nicholasjagneaux]

When I was in Belgium in 1991, I discovered the wonderful paracodeine cough syrup. I worked fantastically at stopping the cough and allowing a good night's sleep. It's only available with a prescription. I don't know if it's available anywhere besides Belgium.

[@johnjon1823]

I think you can get a similar thing today under prescription. I think it was mostly they thought the drug in it was abused by some oddballs. @@nicholasjagneaux

[@sacredartsource8297]

Your conclusion doesn’t make sense. if James Junior was popper, the poltergeist and the poltergeist ended then you are concluding that all his repressed emotions suddenly went away. Furthermore, how could he turn over his dresser in the upstairs room when he was down in the basement? that conclusion makes zero sense furthermore, the whole way this thing was investigated in the 1950s sounds ridiculous. All they had to do is empty the house for a month and have the parapsychologists spend a couple of weeks there to see if it was happening without James Junior, present; another thing that wasn’t brought up was the history of the home, or the fact that purgatorial souls are known to make themselves known through moving objects as a way to request prayers for the release from purgatory. This has been documented by the lives of the Saints, on top of that, I have a personal story which testifies to that fact. We know that both wicked and benevolent spirits exist, as well as purgatorial souls.

[@Blissfulnessence]

i was wondering about a soul in purgatory the entire time. Wonder if a Mass was ever said for the person?

[@PatrickSweeney1]

@sacredartsource8297 That's pretty much my take: The essence of a scientific investigation is getting control of the variables. Just have James still with some relatives for a week and see if things settle down in Seaford, or if they move with James to the new temporary location. And then there's the mystery of why it stopped when it did.

[@tonyl3762]

I agree. Hopefully the Rhine Institute does a better job these days with testing and experimenting in such cases. Seemed like this aspect was worth mentioning.

[@jendoe9436]

Just because poltergeists have commonly been souls seeking prayers doesn’t mean that’s what they always are. Part of the investigation involved testing the ‘new’ theory that similar phenomena could be the result of living people exercising unconscious influence on their surroundings. The idea of people having some type of psychic control has been around for a while, and even St. Thomas Aquinas wrote a bit on the idea that humans have that ability. Since there was priest involvement and blessings, I’m sure prayers were offered in a variety of ways that included praying for any souls who needed it. But if Popper wasn’t a soul in need of prayers like that, then the activity would of course continue (and those prayers would be ‘passed over’ to souls who did need it). James Jr. being in the house but not in the same room at the time of the events doesn’t lessen the possibility of him unconsciously doing something. Remote viewers, for example, can distinguish their surroundings from thousands of miles away from their body with enough focus. And psychics have been documented to move objects around. The house is where JJ grew up and was familiar with, so he would know where most things were kept and that could have made it easier for his mind to find something to ‘grab and smash’ in such a manner. It’s also been brought up that all the events happened when JJ was around, so that’s why they didn’t see a need to take him away from the home. Because they already knew he was the key that made things happen. Also, having strong feelings that overwhelm one’s self is quite common for people, especially for teens. JJ probably had been feeling intense emotions from family, friends, school, the community, puberty, society, etc that had built up into Popper the poltergeist. Perhaps he only had enough energy to generate activity for that short amount of time and once he used it up, he no longer had the ability to manifest it so strongly. The closest analogy is probably going through a temper tantrum or a really good scream/cry session. One lets out all of their emotions and frustrations in a short time, often including some sort of physical exertion (which in JJ’s case would be his mental powers), and then calms down afterward to reevaluate the situation and improve things. I’m not saying JJ suddenly became well adjusted and all his problems were resolved, I’m saying all that pent up energy and influence was let out and didn’t express itself in poltergeist activity anymore (or at least as much). Emotions naturally come and go and change as one goes through life. We’re really not privy to the intimate details of the family’s life and conversations, so perhaps these events became a stepping stone for everyone to start communicating more effectively. James Jr. may have just been having a particularly intense life moment, and things settled out enough for him to no longer subconsciously lash out. His parents might have sought advice somewhere about how to better talk to their kids and things gradually got better. Who really knows. But I think forcing the conclusion that the poltergeist activity HAD to be a purgatorial soul because that’s the common belief doesn’t work when one evaluates all the evidence in this case. Also, it would be imprudent to think JJ’s intense emotions suddenly ‘went away’ because the activity stopped, and imply he couldn’t have been the cause in the first place because of that idea. As I mentioned earlier, JJ could very well still be feeling intense emotions but may no longer be able to express himself via that outlet. People can and do change in short bursts of time, especially teenagers. I think Jimmy Akin’s conclusion makes a lot of sense given the facts we have, and I agree with most of his conclusions. I had actually re-listened to his “21st Century Poltergeist” episode and immediately thought something similar was happening with JJ as this episode went on.

[@ricdimarco1499]

Agreed. Jimmy seems to have a personal affection for psychokinesis that makes him too ready to implicate it in events which I think have perfectly sound *orthodox* interpretations. The dismissal of the demonic and the total absence of any analysis among purgatorial lines in this case were not only disappointing, but I admit also a little concerning.

[@lesmen4]

But how the boy can move the things without even touching them ?

[@johnjon1823]

So, where are they now?

[@seanmalone6487]

Yeah, I was hoping they would say what ended up happening too.

[@johndavis5654]

The Enfield Poltergeist case seems well documented

[@trad-lite]

I think an easy rebuttal of the son being popper is that it would’ve kept happening for years, maybe even getting worse during puberty.

[@seanmalone6487]

Yeah, seriously, James seems to be an entirely normal kid with completely normal feelings. I hated my dad when I was a teen, and so do most teens these days. But I don't have superpowers and neither does anyone I've ever heard of. Being mad at your dad while there happens to be strange things happening in your house OF ALL THINGS should not mean you have superpowers! I can't believe that's Akin's bottom line! 🤣🤔😬

[@Johnalucard-jo3yi]

Get rid of the bottles.!!!!!!!

[@dynaspinner64]

Could it have been a soul from purgatory? I was hoping they would've thought about that and held a Holy Mass for the soul that may have been causing this. But I am not sure if souls from purgatory can cause damage to physical objects when trying to get attention from a family/person.

[@garyfrancis6193]

This poltergeist story is trivial pap. I live n a place that makes that sound too inconsequential to worry about. Ghosts can be annoying. They are annoying to get attention but go away if you ignore them. It’s worse if they start breaking things.

[@Sitzenleben]

I think to dismiss the role of the demonic on the grounds that the phenomenon did not involve more trashing of the religiouse items in the house is a rush to judgment. Exorcists could tell you of stories essentially like this that were the demonic. Aversion to the sacred is found mostly in possesed person not in places. Could it be a soul reaching out for help and was trying to get their attention? I know of a case of this kindof thing. They prayed for the soul and the phenomena promptly ceased. I think the priest missed it here. Remember exorcism and exorcism got ignored here in the us for a long time.

[@francisgruber3638]

Even assuming that an adolescent's mental disturbances are at work in the incidents described, how do relatively weak forces of brain waves and neural electrical circuitry escape the confines of the braincase and act upon solid weighty objects in quasi-intentional ways? The poltergeist phenomena may reveal how insubstantial and ideational otherwise solid articles really are.

[@nightyew2160]

We don't know whether this is a physical power or a spiritual power, though.

[@cookclan]

All this focus on the boy? What about the girl having 'repressed feelings' ? Or perhaps the mother? If something 'bad' is happening all the focus goes to the boy - every time........

[@martinarooney228]

It's more to do with age, he was 12

[@nightyew2160]

It sounded like they were questioning everyone. Also, they may have ended up focusing on him more because it sounds like he was the only one who was always around when these things happened.

[@seanmalone6487]

Yeah I think how they treated the boy was criminal 😡😡😡 ... and then they concluded he had superpowers 😂🤣😂

[@jimmyh7529]

Wasn’t the son out with the father and uncle, when one of the occurrences occurred ?

[@stevenlennon12]

32 minutes in, its getting monotonies and the precision in which everyone remembers exactly where they were is suspect imo

[@lindatullos9430]

[@PraiseChrist4Ever]

Jimmys brain and intelligence show a glimpse into the mind of God.

[@seanmalone6487]

*SPOILER ALERT* Wait... what?!? I find it hard to accept that such a man of faith as Jimmy Akin would prefer a boy having superpowers over a spiritual explanation. How could such a conclusion as the boy somehow telekinetically affecting his environment so severely through entirely ordinary adolescent emotions not be immediately dismissed as the desperate graspings of naturalists to explain obviously supernatural phenomena? Is this Akin wishfully blending reality with comic books? I completely understand Akin's aversion to "it's always demons" on account of the very real damage to our faith's image that kind of thinking has done, but Akin is really stretching here. Telekinesis?? In the real world? Really? If anything, it is well known in Christianity that people can open doors to demons and "give the devil a foothold." Instead of going with the naturalists, who are spiritually dead in their unbelief, Akin instead should have considered the possibility that the boy's emotions opened a door to the demonic, and since it was the boy's emotions that let them in they terrorized the house along those lines. I have utmost respect for Akin but I would like to know how telekinesis is at all compatible with the tradition and wisdom of the Church.

[@HarleyGirl75]

I’m not sure I buy your conclusion. I just don’t think people’s minds have influence over physical matter. Perhaps it was an evil spirit and unknowingly someone prayed for the spirit to leave and it left.

[@ricdimarco1499]

A much more reasonable conclusion, I think.

[@bryanhartman9053]

RSPK....

[@krzy1446]

If it's good enough for Aquinas, it's good enough for me

[@garyfrancis6193]

Yes explain things to me like I never heard of anything before 2010. Golly. TV worked like that? How good were smartphones and iPads in 1958?

[@Lilac-sl9he]

Hmmm. So, why do we not hear more just stories. Seems the conclusion was just a way to get a conclusion. I have heard of adolescents causing some such mystery but not to that extent.

[@MegaLori50]

James was 12- just about the age (back then) when strong sexual feelings arise. 1958- Long Island culture, US culture in general were not apt to acknowledge those feelings which did not mean those feelings were not present in a hidden way. I grew up in that same general area around the same time , it’s unbelievable how things have evolved (devolved?) since then. Those days before internet things were hidden,in my neighborhood it was fairly common for example for a husband to go out on Saturday nights to “play cards” and they would actually have a side girlfriend. This was before public pornography, before the celebration of same sex sexuality, etc. etc. Something had to be ripening underneath the cultural expression for things to have taken hold as they have. Cultural ferment was in the air. I think this particular case was connected to strong budding sexual feelings. I’m also thinking the children were not exposed to deep Catholic catechesis from family. The mom said she did not believe in the supernatural and was considering going to a medium. So the young boy possibly had these deep feelings and possibly saw there was no way for them to be discussed orb fit into this particular household.

[@MegaLori50]

Btw- fantastic work, Jimmy and Dom. I am so grateful to you both for this show.

[@1001011011010]

How would budding sexual feelings cause a poltergeist? What is the connection?

[@MegaLori50]

Budding strong feelings that have to be pushed down. Strong bottled (no pun intended)feelings can cause reactions in the environment, that is in the parapsychological literature.

[@nightyew2160]

I got the sense that considering using a medium was a last, desperate thought on her part. Also, she probably did know better than to consult a medium, because it sounds like they never actually used one.

[@richarddouglas8015]

Call a catholic priest !

[@cecizeni]

These poltergeist phenomenons to me, still make me think these are mischievous spirits working off of the energy people 🤔

[@erincarter1469]

Hmm wonder if Gef is a tulpas (or a human imaginative creature brought to life). Normally tulpas are thought to need a lot of communal human influence before any manifestation. However, poltergeists might be starts of things that could-with someone imaginative enough- become a separate creation. There is no doubt both that humans share God's creative mind and imagination itself reaches from material to the divine.

[@tomthx5804]

Ai yi yi

[@mgr2599]

I’d watch this on a regular basis, but there is no natural flow. It’s to heavily scripted. Just research it, then have a conversation.

[@nicholasjagneaux]

I love these shows, but I have the same criticism. I actually brought this up to Jimmy twice, mentioning that Dom will say/read something that's *perfectly* understandable; but, then Jimmy will spend the next few minutes basically repeating the same thing, sometimes word for word. Nevertheless, the topics are interesting; and I appreciate Jimmy's methodical approach to sorting out answers.

[@mgr2599]

@@bethmcmullan7686 If that’s the angle Jimmy should lay out the whole case without the scripted questions and the other gentlemen should just narrate.

[@nicholasjagneaux]

@@bethmcmullan7686 I agree about the methodical telling of the story. I don't like the repetition.

[@robertstevenson3281]

HORSEMANUER with this Pschokenisis. If someone can do this from another room and even asleep....!? NOT BUYING IT!