Popular MK Characters That Were BAD Competitively

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@mariotimes7
@mariotimes7 Ай бұрын
To this day, I'm genuinely convinced NRS made MK11 Mileena extremely weak on purpose cause they were just that sick of all the harassment her fanbase was giving out.
@dreaelam940
@dreaelam940 Ай бұрын
That, and how busted she was in MKX. I still have nightmares about Ethereal 😒
@Sharky_0456
@Sharky_0456 Ай бұрын
honestly fair, i feel bad for nrs (at that time, not now because mk is going down the toilet) but at the time that was just unjustified fucking gooners man
@skateorpie
@skateorpie Ай бұрын
And I don’t blame them
@j.i.nthenobody54
@j.i.nthenobody54 Ай бұрын
They got death threats. I don’t blame em
@RazuX5
@RazuX5 Ай бұрын
And the Sub-Zero fans too
@SirLightsOut99
@SirLightsOut99 Ай бұрын
Mileena being low-tier in MK11 felt like the most passive Aggressive thing to me. I can’t promise you that if I was in the developers shoes and I was constantly getting death threats over a video game character that I wouldn’t make her the worst character in the game out of spite. I’d probably have made her exclusive to the stadia version Just to rub it in.
@lordtrigon1733
@lordtrigon1733 Ай бұрын
With all I’ve heard about “constant death threats” there should be a mountain of evidence to support their existence. I think y’all might be exaggerating...
@MementoMori7777
@MementoMori7777 Ай бұрын
​@@lordtrigon1733 you want evidence then go do some searching.
@RoyArkon
@RoyArkon Ай бұрын
MK11 Mileena was actually very good, I know that because I played Mileena in MK11 when she came out. Her projectiles were some of the best in the game and even in the slower-pace game that MK11 was, she was still one of the faster chars in the game. She was basically a runaway Zoning char, and because her projectiles were that good, she could've even counter some of the anti-Zoning chars. I myself ran into Scorpion players that actually were afraid to Teleport against her because how fast her projectiles and Tele-Kick were.
@Los-0120
@Los-0120 27 күн бұрын
@@RoyArkonand her combos were so easy to pull off honestly and having a combo krushing blow is so good
@RoyArkon
@RoyArkon 27 күн бұрын
@@Los-0120 Oh yeah I got that 7 hit KB combo with her, yes the range on the starter was very short but it was super easy to do and had very good damage
@Oilyoxygen
@Oilyoxygen Ай бұрын
I like the Jade segment footage started with her vs Reptile on Dead Pool, for maximum green.
@gonzalotorres5282
@gonzalotorres5282 Ай бұрын
I reminded of the Smoke Medic video
@haruhihirano2633
@haruhihirano2633 Ай бұрын
0:30 man I miss when the ground freeze move just makes the enemies do the slip animation instead of getting frozen or stuck
@Jayjay0829
@Jayjay0829 25 күн бұрын
Woah woah Nacho oo way
@ak-jxrdy-7
@ak-jxrdy-7 21 күн бұрын
Yeah, that stun animation is pretty cool.
@pietrofattorello
@pietrofattorello Ай бұрын
mileena in MK11 is the equivalent to a 'shut up ring' "jfc here's your precious character, enjoy never playing her because she sucks" 😂😂
@NeonAngel2002
@NeonAngel2002 Ай бұрын
She didn’t suck though, I didn’t think she was that bad and I still enjoy playing as her in MK11
@kzakulenga5138
@kzakulenga5138 Ай бұрын
​​@@NeonAngel2002even Lostygirl, one of the most prolific Mileena players in the MK community admitted Mileena was bad in MK 11. Mileena sucks in that game.
@ciciad2010
@ciciad2010 Ай бұрын
@@NeonAngel2002she was bottom 3.
@RoyArkon
@RoyArkon Ай бұрын
@@kzakulenga5138 No she wasn't. MK11 Mileena was actually very good, I know that because I played Mileena in MK11 when she came out. Her projectiles were some of the best in the game and even in the slower-pace game that MK11 was, she was still one of the faster chars in the game. She was basically a runaway Zoning char, and because her projectiles were that good, she could've even counter some of the anti-Zoning chars. I myself ran into Scorpion players that actually were afraid to Teleport against her because how fast her projectiles and Tele-Kick were.
@RoyArkon
@RoyArkon Ай бұрын
@@ciciad2010 No she wasn't. MK11 Mileena was actually very good, I know that because I played Mileena in MK11 when she came out. Her projectiles were some of the best in the game and even in the slower-pace game that MK11 was, she was still one of the faster chars in the game. She was basically a runaway Zoning char, and because her projectiles were that good, she could've even counter some of the anti-Zoning chars. I myself ran into Scorpion players that actually were afraid to Teleport against her because how fast her projectiles and Tele-Kick were.
@kalosianporygon
@kalosianporygon Ай бұрын
The idea of a (previous game's) boss character being low tier, e.g. MK3 Shang Tsung or MK11's Shao Khan, it always shocks me, mainly for lore reasons.
@kingol4801
@kingol4801 Ай бұрын
They are playable raidboss characters. Except raidbosses are meant to be oppressive, but have highly telegraphed and counterable moves. Difference is that as a playable characters, they no longer have the privilege of having a massive lifepool and damage advantage, whilst retaining all of their weaknesses. Hence why they are bad - they are amazing at low-level play, but bad against experienced players/speed runners etc. As any boss character would be
@Fr4ctur3d95
@Fr4ctur3d95 29 күн бұрын
I don’t see Shao as low tier at all. Bro can juggle you across the stage with one move at the start of the match. Low tier how ?? Bros pokes into grabs are fast af if you’re an average player so low tier how ??
@idunnoman9402
@idunnoman9402 29 күн бұрын
Comparing Shao Khan from MK9 to MK11 is the definition of “the boss character when you unlock them as a playable character”. But I think that’s a good thing since MK9 Khan was programmed to not spam moves that could infinite. I believe that’s why people find Shang underwhelming in MK3 compared to his original boss fight.
@Fr4ctur3d95
@Fr4ctur3d95 29 күн бұрын
@@idunnoman9402 Id love to fight a spamming Mk9 Shao Kahn Still putting him in a blender 😤
@Gadreth
@Gadreth Ай бұрын
How about a top list of the most consistent Bad Match Up in MK? Not the Worst match up of every game, but the characters that tend to be weaker than other the most. I think it would be fun
@jamariirobinson725
@jamariirobinson725 Ай бұрын
Ah MK9 Jade. The anti-zoner with a losing matchup against the best zoner in the game.
@JuanJose-fw1eg
@JuanJose-fw1eg Ай бұрын
Jade's moveset in MK9 is so fun to watch, like, I think it was very well executed visually. Shame that her character is not competitively viable, but I do have a lot of fun playing as her.
@arch5701
@arch5701 Ай бұрын
Jade is my favorite female character in MK, but NRS just doesn't like her. She's either completely missing from every other game or she's low to mid tier at best. In MK 11 she also had the most boring play style of all.
@SpiderMan-gf1lc
@SpiderMan-gf1lc Ай бұрын
​@@arch5701she was one of the best in MK11 tho
@leithaziz2716
@leithaziz2716 Ай бұрын
I always really liked Jade. I can't fully grasp why exactly, but I think her loyalty and witty playfulness makes her very likable. Green is also just a strong color scheme for her.
@BigEOT3
@BigEOT3 Ай бұрын
I’m not one of those Esport Whores, I actually enjoy playing as Jade. Hated that she’s missing in MK1. MK1, destroyer of all things.
@horobi-san4427
@horobi-san4427 Ай бұрын
Funny how Shang Tsung's competitive peaks are arguably Deadly Alliance and MK11 He's too simple in the MK3 era, when even some of the mid tiers have at least some crazy sauce (looking at you, UMK3 Stryker)
@CrazyPills-465
@CrazyPills-465 Ай бұрын
Honestly after the shitshow Mileena fans did for the entirety of 11’s lifespan, it was 100% deserved
@RazuX5
@RazuX5 Ай бұрын
And now the Sub-Zero fandom is next 😈
@RoyArkon
@RoyArkon Ай бұрын
She wasn't bad though. MK11 Mileena was actually very good, I know that because I played Mileena in MK11 when she came out. Her projectiles were some of the best in the game and even in the slower-pace game that MK11 was, she was still one of the faster chars in the game. She was basically a runaway Zoning char, and because her projectiles were that good, she could've even counter some of the anti-Zoning chars. I myself ran into Scorpion players that actually were afraid to Teleport against her because how fast her projectiles and Tele-Kick were.
@Euro.Patriot
@Euro.Patriot Ай бұрын
​@@RoyArkonYou obviously played at a low level then.
@RoyArkon
@RoyArkon Ай бұрын
@@Euro.Patriot Nope
@RicarditoFlores3p
@RicarditoFlores3p Ай бұрын
​@@RoyArkonShare your tournament results then
@sebastiancintron29
@sebastiancintron29 Ай бұрын
Gotta respect Ed Boon and company for putting Mileena in MK11 after getting constantly harrased by her fanbase, only to make her one of the worst characters in the game. The ultimate troll move. Mad respect.
@arch5701
@arch5701 Ай бұрын
Not really. Half the roster was just as boring.
@greasysmith3150
@greasysmith3150 Ай бұрын
Yeah its more a bitch move than a troll move
@mlo009
@mlo009 28 күн бұрын
@@arch5701 Others are boring but more effective.
@Los-0120
@Los-0120 27 күн бұрын
@@arch5701feel like the ones downplaying mileena are the ones who asked for her lol
@solomonkane5240
@solomonkane5240 15 күн бұрын
True Mk 11 had pretty much boring roster ​@@arch5701
@RandoChrisYT
@RandoChrisYT Ай бұрын
Me, a Shingo Yabuki player in King of Fighters, could only laugh seeing all the salt and anger from Mileena fans for their girl potentially missing only one game. In terms of mainline entries, Shingo was out for close to 20 YEARS after the release of XI. (Yeah, there were the enhanced versions of KOF 98 and 2002 but those are different.) Mileena fans could never survive that long of a drought.
@Jayjay0829
@Jayjay0829 25 күн бұрын
Not even American Sports team fans act like this, and the only time they returned was for an everyone is here game. So if you think about canon only games, they have been missing for 30 YEARS
@speedy932key4
@speedy932key4 Күн бұрын
I think the one thing that helps with Shingo's absence fron KOF XIII and XIV is that they had a story reason for it,one that made his return in XV actually pretty satisfying too. When they brought back Mileena in MK 11,it didn't just feel like a downgrade competitively,but also from a character perspective. You can tell that when they brought her back for MK 1,there was actual passion and care taken with her in that game,most likely because they weren't being harassed every five seconds
@canvas3512
@canvas3512 Ай бұрын
I know this is supposed to be a mortal Kombat video but I have to call you out for how happy you have made me for using music from the fighting game Evil Zone!!!! the soundtrack you're using in the introduction of the video is one of the characters theme songs!!! Keiya i believe!!!
@Abaj_
@Abaj_ Ай бұрын
Good to see you back in spirits,mate. Here's going to see a new feature in a Character's competitive history soon!
@TheEmptySpiral
@TheEmptySpiral Ай бұрын
To this day I'm still surprised there was somewhat of a competitive scene for 3D MK. MK always had an troubled history with the competitive FGC, but during that time 3D MK was completely dismissed and just seen as the dumb mindless fighting game for casuals.
@tedjomuljono3052
@tedjomuljono3052 24 күн бұрын
3D MK was famous for having a competition in Japan where the champion was a blind american player that's how bad it's competitive scene was
@MattDustyParker
@MattDustyParker 21 күн бұрын
Please tell me more bro​@@tedjomuljono3052
@mostverticalproductions4808
@mostverticalproductions4808 7 күн бұрын
​@@tedjomuljono3052 also KSK was the guy playing in the video, I think there were other 3S legends but KSK was the standout.
@kingknowles2112
@kingknowles2112 Ай бұрын
I love Evil Zone's OST Keiya theme I recognized immediately lol
@unique_avi749
@unique_avi749 23 күн бұрын
I remember buying it as a kid from a $7.99 bargain bin at Meijer. One of the best ps games I played at the time. I’ll never forget it.
@EeveeEsp
@EeveeEsp Ай бұрын
You have no idea how much I love hearing Kakurine's theme out in the wild like that ❤
@PNDKM
@PNDKM Ай бұрын
Feel the mystical
@maxstrike3022
@maxstrike3022 29 күн бұрын
Interesting lore
@LordofSadFac
@LordofSadFac Ай бұрын
A bit surprised you didnt spoke of Scorpion in OG Mortal Kombat, as he and Sub-Zero were the most popular characters of the game, and both sucked, but Scorpion did more than nobody else due to his highly unsafe projectile and his buggy Teleport Punch that sometimes just didnt worked.
@dis6588
@dis6588 Ай бұрын
Scorpion became popular after mk9, then nrs start pushing him hard.Og mk scorpion was just boring ninja with rope.
@chiarosuburekeni9325
@chiarosuburekeni9325 29 күн бұрын
@@dis6588 not true in the slightest. Scorpion was popular AF from day one in 1992 when the original game released. Bro, like where are you coming up with this information? 😂
@Tek195
@Tek195 29 күн бұрын
Sub-zero wasn’t bad in original mk stop listening to know it all tier makers. He had the most unstoppable combo in game of freeze-uppercut-slide. The best character in the game. You guys let three people decide ur opinion really.
@pietrofattorello
@pietrofattorello 24 күн бұрын
​@@dis6588 what??? scorpion has been the face of MK since the 90s
@dis6588
@dis6588 24 күн бұрын
@pietrofattorello only for usa
@JMAR_GAMES
@JMAR_GAMES Ай бұрын
I love videos like this, MK Meta, and the Competitive History videos on your channel, they always keep me coming back again and again. I usually end up watching them a few times, especially if they’re on the longer side or cover every game. Great job as always, glad to hear you’re feeling better :)
@chara2038
@chara2038 8 күн бұрын
I can't take you seriously when you are talking about how cool sub zero is in D.A as a grizzled veteran while Sonia kicks him so hard that he falls on his butt at 4:38
@FlappableElf
@FlappableElf Ай бұрын
I’ve realized that I’m a basic bitch and usually love playing Scorpion and Sub-Zero whether they’re good or not lol
@BriannaBow
@BriannaBow Ай бұрын
Same lmao Especially Sub
@kaisura8660
@kaisura8660 7 күн бұрын
Well, liking both Scorpion and Sub Zero basically means you don’t have to worry about either of them not being included in the next games.
@mandalorianhunter1
@mandalorianhunter1 Ай бұрын
A long with Cyrax, Sub-Zero and Scorpion they are always up or down. Rarely in the middle
@makprivate7118
@makprivate7118 Ай бұрын
this list needs a part two and three please- your favorite characters in their worst forms
@DarthWall275
@DarthWall275 Ай бұрын
+5 points for the Evil Zone music 👌
@MSR-1701
@MSR-1701 Ай бұрын
Love the Top Best/Worst vids, keep it up! (Also, glad you are over the bug!)😅
@MKF30
@MKF30 Ай бұрын
MK11 Raiden was pretty weak, very disappointing. Still crazy how those insane Mileena fans threatened Boon if she didnt show up in MK11....Yeah being sick is never fun. Glad you're better.
@jaymzg.1368
@jaymzg.1368 Ай бұрын
I was expecting subzero from mk1 to be on here, but mkda makes sense lmao. I hope they make mk1 sub's b3,4 cancellable into ice klone, how do you think that would change his play, ketchup?
@Taitosalad
@Taitosalad Ай бұрын
2:31 an answer to this is that using various high tiers abilities would make watching the fight more entertaining.
@caesar1512
@caesar1512 Ай бұрын
I wish that we get a remaster of MK9 but I don't have high hopes with Nether Realm in this day of age
@TheSixteen60
@TheSixteen60 Ай бұрын
They can without adding Freddy in it.
@caesar1512
@caesar1512 Ай бұрын
@@TheSixteen60 They can always renew Freddy license IP
@ouijawhr3
@ouijawhr3 Ай бұрын
i don’t think they can cause of the Freddy and Kratos license.
@Heavymetalthunda3
@Heavymetalthunda3 Ай бұрын
What is it with everyone wanting their favorite old games to be rereleased? Just boot up your 360/ps3 and play it man, the company doesn’t need to invest millions remaking a game that’s not that old
@NeonAngel2002
@NeonAngel2002 Ай бұрын
@@Heavymetalthunda3Not that old?? It’s over 10 years old, also wanting a remaster is valid, it would look better, and perform better booting up your PS3 or Xbox 360 isn’t that simple those consoles aren’t easy to come by and if you still have one it’s pretty old, most people don’t have one nowadays, and it can be pricey to find one, idk how you can just say that like playing this game on PS3 instead of playing it on PS5 would be ideal
@dantran9962
@dantran9962 Ай бұрын
Sadly Jade always been low to mid. As someone who has a bo staff as her default attacks you would think she would have fast mixups with reach, but nope.
@ohandthefracking
@ohandthefracking Ай бұрын
deception really was the only game that made her actually viable
@ElectricNikkiGames
@ElectricNikkiGames Ай бұрын
@@ohandthefracking i fell like both of yall completely missed MK11
@eggyjames393
@eggyjames393 Ай бұрын
@@ElectricNikkiGamesshe was just a bad zoner in mk11
@hype5456
@hype5456 Ай бұрын
​@@ElectricNikkiGamesyou realize that she was a bad zoner in 11 right
@WutTheDeuceGaming
@WutTheDeuceGaming Ай бұрын
She was a top 10 character in MK11.
@WhitePointerGaming
@WhitePointerGaming Ай бұрын
Scorpion in UMK3/MKT would be on my list. He missed vanilla MK3, but they brought him back for UMK3 and... well, he wasn't competitively bad, per se, but he was just completely outclassed by Human Smoke. Smoke's human form was just a better Scorpion in every possible way. Same special moves but much better combos meant that there wasn't any reason to play Scorpion.
@tiradegrandmarshal
@tiradegrandmarshal 28 күн бұрын
Human Smoke had faster walk speed, too.
@xXSonTJXx
@xXSonTJXx Ай бұрын
Great video but I need that Liu Kang competitive history at some point 👀
@SidneyMosley
@SidneyMosley Ай бұрын
@@xXSonTJXx 🔥
@the757general2
@the757general2 Ай бұрын
That's gonna be difficult because he's been in way too many games
@SidneyMosley
@SidneyMosley Ай бұрын
@@the757general2 been in all games except Deadly Alliance. Only beaten or equalled in appearances by Raiden, Sub-Zero & of course Scorpion.
@antoniodearry7114
@antoniodearry7114 Ай бұрын
3:20 that's some controller breaking trolling 😂😂😂
@soloquakez7441
@soloquakez7441 Ай бұрын
1:26 the song from EVIL ZONE. Kakurine theme
@napalmsanctuaryx4129
@napalmsanctuaryx4129 Ай бұрын
The real shame with mk9 was nightwolf. He was one of my favorites in UMK3, but I hated him in mk9. I wanted to love him. He was the first character I tried, but I had to move from him on the same day.
@isaacblake4201
@isaacblake4201 29 күн бұрын
He was hard to play with even though I really wanted to like him
@engagekillftw
@engagekillftw Ай бұрын
Truly appreciate your kontent guys. Wishing yall the best!
@Abel_Unstable
@Abel_Unstable Ай бұрын
You know MKX was peak because not a single one of the characters are bad, even Bo Rai Cho and Kung Jin among my favorites
@michaellawler549
@michaellawler549 Ай бұрын
To call what the mileena fans did online a " social media push" is a drastic understatement. They single-handedly made me hate her as a character because of their actions.
@windebiesteultima3317
@windebiesteultima3317 Ай бұрын
And her being garbage in the competitive scene was a much deserved middle finger to that “fanbase”
@michaellawler549
@michaellawler549 Ай бұрын
@windebiesteultima3317 yes it was
@hype5456
@hype5456 Ай бұрын
While I definitely get why I don't think it really means it's every fan just the really hyper ones
@hype5456
@hype5456 Ай бұрын
​@@windebiesteultima3317to the people who were toxic sure but to regular fans it's not, think NRS needs to do better when it comes to making characters feel consistent
@RisingTron
@RisingTron Ай бұрын
y’all are dramatic af about mileena fans but nobody brings up the Reiko fan that threatened to SA a dev’s child. or when someone named their daughter Mileena & an anti said their kid should die. never saw a mileena fan threaten anyone’s life y’all just think they were annoying & wanna believe they bullied the devs into adding her when she was already in the files since release. (Like Jade in MK1)
@monster6953
@monster6953 Ай бұрын
I was main jade and thought ive had skill issue.
@Hairphones
@Hairphones 24 күн бұрын
it's so funny to watch these videos and hear how much this channel loves the Evil Zone OST
@SonySteals
@SonySteals Ай бұрын
Such a shame for Mileena in mk11. She looks and moves so cool that I wish it was just decent at least.
@Bizarro_Sosa
@Bizarro_Sosa 14 күн бұрын
Woah! I forgot the female characters were so attractive in MK9. 😂
@TheDarkAcePrime
@TheDarkAcePrime Ай бұрын
Evil Zone OST??? Let's go!
@k00pa
@k00pa Ай бұрын
Mileena is my favorite MK character and as much as I wanted her to be added, the rabid side of the fanbase made me so genuinely upset. Part of me wishes she wasn't added, because what lesson does that teach those fans? If you're toxic enough and threaten devs enough you get what you want?
@Sharky_0456
@Sharky_0456 Ай бұрын
baraka is one of my faves and him not being in mkx made me pissed off. where were the baraka fans then?
@RoyArkon
@RoyArkon Ай бұрын
NRS/WB planned to have Mileena in MK11 from the get go, they didn't add her because the rabid stans harassed them, she would've make it regardless. But yes the Mileena stans were BEYOND obnoxious, and because how stupid people on the interent are and don't understand how game design actually works, they actually take it as the wrong message
@danbauer3669
@danbauer3669 Ай бұрын
Cool topic! Awesome discussion! Love the channel and also Mortal Kombat. MK is the most voluminous title in my game collection with over 50 physical titles! I suck at it, but I still love it!
@russellwilliams3659
@russellwilliams3659 Ай бұрын
We will add sub zero (mk1) to this list in a couple of years come back to this
@SidneyMosley
@SidneyMosley Ай бұрын
I'm back to request Competitive History of Liu Kang 🙏🏾 Also I'm glad you're back from being sick!
@Fallub
@Fallub Ай бұрын
Great video. Thank you
@the757general2
@the757general2 Ай бұрын
One mistake made in the video. MK4 wasn't Johnny Cage's return in MK. He returned in MKT which was the second upgrade to MK3.
@OfficerPapi
@OfficerPapi 26 күн бұрын
We don’t acknowledge that bootleg Johnny 😂
@parkeaudio1338
@parkeaudio1338 23 күн бұрын
I miss characters looking cool and the story being interesting, I miss the feelings I got from old school MK. The game has become bland and a bit boring and too bright, there is too many reboots and dodgy character designs. On top of all this what happened to secret codes and unlocking characters, they won’t even finish development before release leading to so many patches
@FresnoBoy6star
@FresnoBoy6star 11 күн бұрын
Right I agree 100 percent especially on the brightness. It always had a dark eerie feel to it and I miss it
@Catzillator
@Catzillator 5 күн бұрын
That is Eretzvaju OST in the background!!
@BBoy4040
@BBoy4040 28 күн бұрын
"Popular MK characters" So the original Trilogy characters...
@LUAN_JAGUAR
@LUAN_JAGUAR Ай бұрын
Shao Kahn was surprisingly too bad in 3D Era games. even weaker than Kobra and Shujinko
@fortisch
@fortisch Ай бұрын
5:00 that damage is soooo sad, omg
@LosPollosFring
@LosPollosFring Ай бұрын
Babe wake up, new pndk&m video
@vowxr2030
@vowxr2030 Ай бұрын
Glad your feeling better man w video
@Bug582
@Bug582 Ай бұрын
can you make a video addressing the rumor that mk1 is done?
@CHECK4900
@CHECK4900 28 күн бұрын
Sub Zero freezes you once in MKDA, and can unblockable impale you, then zone. Cyrax isn't bottom 1, he's actually very good. Bottom 1 is Raiden/Sub Zero. But the unblockable impale off a freeze moves him up a little bit. Sub's overheads are non existent besides weapon s3. Like Cyrax, he has a decent weapon which allows him to win matches. Fast CS into Shotokan for punishing/staying near opponent.
@aGoodHunter
@aGoodHunter Ай бұрын
Mk11 erron black... Most of erron players are predictable and use few similar moves
@LinKueiDragon
@LinKueiDragon 20 күн бұрын
Mileena, Sub-Zero, and Reptile are the three best. Liu Kang fourth.
@mrrattrap1488
@mrrattrap1488 28 күн бұрын
I was hoping for mk11 Raiden to be on the list A consistent entry in all mk games with almost all of his moves in the game prone to counter hit this making him a high risk character to play with. Also he was close to never used in competitive play across the games life-span barring in 2023 when Roether and Sikander used him in their gameplay videos.
@Los-0120
@Los-0120 27 күн бұрын
I think raiden is like the most balanced character in mk11. He’s decent at everything.
@mrrattrap1488
@mrrattrap1488 27 күн бұрын
@Los-0120 nope, he is the most inconsistent Eg. 1. Lighting Road Amp is supposedly to stunhit forward and back rolls when you hit the boundary of the circle but if you backroll , you won get stunned . On Amp Lighting Rod if you block any hit of Raidens pressure, you are plus on block to counterhit. Ref - Tom Brady made a whole video of this bug Sindel and Raiden have a similar customised move (Regal presence and Lightning Storm. Sindel is able to hover over any high attacks while Raiden get punished for it. Some of his safe overheads (f3 + 2 and b1 + 4 can be punished on certain situations even though you are atleast +2 on block. His b1,2 which is a mid followed by a high, misses in certain you opponents when you get them in the air which does not happen to most characters. Storm cell vs Sheevas Stomp : It doesn't punish all stomps and Sheeva can at time hit you rather than the Stormcell protecting you. If you want more, let me know. Been making him since 2020. 😑😑
@Los-0120
@Los-0120 27 күн бұрын
Love how your complaints are hit box issues and not raiden specific problems lmao. Rain literally has an overhead that you can duck mid combo on block. Stop.
@Los-0120
@Los-0120 26 күн бұрын
Also f32 isn’t even plus lol…it’s like -4 or -6 something like that. And b14 has a gap in it crazy you mention gaps in strings when literally every character in the game besides kabal I think has a gap in their string. The regal presence and lighting storm move are two completely different things. Also raiden will slowly hover down a bit before the move will stop being active. I didn’t even say he’s broken so you coming with all this is wild. Relax and chill before you talk about the character you clearly main bud. Raiden once again is just balanced. Not too bad but not too good. He’s right in the middle wherever that is.
@sweazerelli4311
@sweazerelli4311 Ай бұрын
i feel Exactly the same about Deadly Alliance.
@lightmasterj
@lightmasterj 11 күн бұрын
Next do popular characters who are constantly bad as a sub zero lover I’ll probably see him on that list too
@lamontbeverly7374
@lamontbeverly7374 Ай бұрын
I see why sikander raging and getting upset about subzero… it’s just like NRS never wanted him to be good
@unaxthorized
@unaxthorized Ай бұрын
i'm surprised you didn't put subzero from mk1 in here
@j.i.nthenobody54
@j.i.nthenobody54 Ай бұрын
Sub got buffed he’s good now
@ShadyLizack
@ShadyLizack Ай бұрын
Is shang tsung had at least a launcher like striker/ermac that allows you to follow up with his ground projectiles he'd be damn good
@byronsmotherman8857
@byronsmotherman8857 29 күн бұрын
I recognize that background music anywhere evil zone ones from danzibar the other ones from kakarin
@mrstudent9125
@mrstudent9125 Ай бұрын
I hope to see competitive history of Shang Tsung.
@RoyArkon
@RoyArkon Ай бұрын
As a Shang Tsung player in MK11, I second this.
@outzoner7032
@outzoner7032 10 күн бұрын
I always thought that version of sub zero in the thumb nail kind of looks like til Lindemann from rammstien😅
@PNDKM
@PNDKM 4 күн бұрын
Can't unsee that now
@clarencesburner3039
@clarencesburner3039 26 күн бұрын
idk man that sword sub zero had in DA was doing wonders. you stick that into your opponent and boom instant cheese
@Mixa_Lv
@Mixa_Lv Ай бұрын
You explain well why these characters were bad, but it was left a bit unclear why they were popular. I can make some educated guesses based on your explanations, but I was left wondering why these characters were used that much if they really were that bad.
@huffindoback3776
@huffindoback3776 Ай бұрын
The vast majority of players don’t care about competitive viability, and a character’s competitive potential doesn’t matter when you just wanna play the game for fun
@KristoforusBagaskara
@KristoforusBagaskara Ай бұрын
The video assumes you already know why those are popular, so I can see why it's a bit unclear for newcomers.
@Mixa_Lv
@Mixa_Lv Ай бұрын
Surely yes, but I would've appreciated if the video went more into detail about the fun aspects of the characters, the lore or any other possible reasons that would explain the popularity.
@RollTheBonez
@RollTheBonez Ай бұрын
Considering Scorpion is the poster child for MK, it's funny how awful he was in the original.
@vantablack3831
@vantablack3831 Ай бұрын
Mileena is my second favorite kharacter in the series, and even though I wasn't one of those people that harassed the devs to add her to MK11, I still suffered the consequences of having to play a sugar-free version of her. My first and forever favorite is Skarlet. I will never buy an MK game if she's not in it.
@Cali-chef
@Cali-chef Ай бұрын
Keep up the work mate❤
@marbles8641
@marbles8641 16 күн бұрын
What font do you use?
@TreRaSi8
@TreRaSi8 Ай бұрын
Mk11 mileena was relegated to being a subpar zoner because she shot 2 projectiles by default which broke all armour, sad everything else sucked tho 😢
@goldenhydreigon4727
@goldenhydreigon4727 Ай бұрын
Based NRS for making MK11 Mileena bad after getting death threats
@Gianno_
@Gianno_ 28 күн бұрын
Do a competitive history of Deception
@itsdaejon
@itsdaejon Ай бұрын
Welcome back 💪🏾
@MasterMewtwo239
@MasterMewtwo239 Ай бұрын
Johnny was always at a minus in the face of a whiff or blocked move in MK4.
@TimStatic
@TimStatic Ай бұрын
Good list. Surprised MK2 Reptile didn't make the list. Absolutely an iconic look but was total butt cheeks in MK2 😂🤷‍♂️
@Jonkin715
@Jonkin715 26 күн бұрын
Indeed.
@atomgroup3179
@atomgroup3179 Ай бұрын
I clicked because I’m curious why someone has “Ice Dragon’s “ written on the sides of his chest
@christophermccutcheon2143
@christophermccutcheon2143 29 күн бұрын
I think Sub-Zero had the highest combo % in MK9, but you needed to be in training mode to pull it off. I think it was 87% ? Enhanced special and finish with an xray. Definitely highest i ever got in MK9
@byronsmotherman8857
@byronsmotherman8857 29 күн бұрын
Now you're playing music from kayia steal from evil zone
@ToadRage-Turgon
@ToadRage-Turgon 9 күн бұрын
I got my self the 3d era trilogy for Christmas 😂 I never played them as a kid
@alphablaqog
@alphablaqog 25 күн бұрын
Shangs not suppose to be good on his own. Thats why hes able to morph. He has some hand to hand combat skill, but compared to most characters hes not built like that. Hes a zoner character, it goes with the story of the character being a sorcerer
@Josef_Stylin
@Josef_Stylin 23 күн бұрын
I looked up a pro MK3 Shang Tsung player... I want to throw up due to the amount of combos he can chain from the ground fireballs and counters he can pull off from morphing
@BrutallyMagical
@BrutallyMagical Ай бұрын
I will argue this until I die but MK9 Jade would have been top 5 easy if she wasn’t so buggy. Also was so heartbroken what they did to my girl in 11, so boring to play.
@brandonschneider3993
@brandonschneider3993 Ай бұрын
I will say and Shang in mk3, his throw was one of the coolest looking.
@mumuvp
@mumuvp 29 күн бұрын
I hear that evil zone music. great taste
@xBiggs
@xBiggs 29 күн бұрын
MK4 Cage is for sure worse than Shinnok and Quan Chi. I think the next worst character near him is probably Kai. I also think Cage returned in MKT before MK4. He is not very good in that game either. That Meter Drain "glitch" in MK9 happens if you don't have the frames. Unfortunately, Jade's EX Glow only gets armor starting on the 2nd frame so she can be hit out of it.
@mrsiraldo2544
@mrsiraldo2544 Ай бұрын
All ill say is Kitana on top 🔥 I think she managed to stay the kombo queen throughout most of the games shes been in
@Zahreil
@Zahreil 13 күн бұрын
Scorpion in mk9 was also depressingly low tier iirc same for his appearance in injustice
@legendaryj9689
@legendaryj9689 20 күн бұрын
Mk 11 got removed from my list because like mk 3 they removed my favorite. Only this time NRS did me dirty. They gave Kitana Mileenas sais and a few of her moves. That's the equivalent of removing scorpion and giving sub zero the spear. Its bad enough they made the younger sub zero scorpion in mk1.
@ryanrowe1975
@ryanrowe1975 Ай бұрын
Developing in 3D characters for years
@AceD500
@AceD500 28 күн бұрын
Shang Tsung' in NES MKII homebrew game are lackbuster because he only had one combo, while others 3
@nightsounds9990
@nightsounds9990 26 күн бұрын
Mad that the graphics look better on MK3 compared to 4
@DB-bq6zc
@DB-bq6zc Ай бұрын
Mk1 would have to go to Scorpion without the use of the kameos. - No overhead or low; specials - no safe regular specials on block - the 1 safe special: amp teleport cancel He's a catch your opponent whiffing character.
@shiroamakusa8075
@shiroamakusa8075 Ай бұрын
I'll be honest, if Mileena had been top tier in MK11 I'd be pretty darn miffed because of how obnoxious the Mileesimps had been going about their pet-peeve. It also provided a shibboleth of whether people actually like the character or whether people just want easy MUs.
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