Por15 Two Year Update - Jeep Frame

[@FredRobich]

POR should be covered with another coating if you're going offroad, bed liner or rocker guard spray could work.

[@sunnydlight2375]

overkill. just do another coat the next year.

[@FredRobich]

@@sunnydlight2375 That's the point, add another coating so you won't have to do it once a year

[@GabrielOrtizUAP]

Thanks for sharing this. Good to know that the product holds up well. Props to you for dealing with the home floods like a champ.

[@Pooooooops]

For anyone reading this after watching. POR-15 is a chemical conversion which requires rust. I've only ever seen it peel when it was not applied to rust. No matter the prep, it will not stick. If you take it to bare metal or are coating something that isn't rusty, you're better off with another product.

[@JeepingNet]

I completely agree, however, Por15 on the instructions say it can be used on bare metal. It does though on another part of their website say it works best with rusted metal. When I contacted them about it they said as long as you use Metal Prep it will be fine. I have mixed experience with that as it held up fine in areas like under my floorboards. I'll continue to use the produce on rusted metals. And more traditional coats on bare metals.

[@never2late454]

I'm glad I seen this video before doing this to my frame. I've been thinking to use cold galvanized from a spray can on mine, then covering it with paint. I had a few bare spots that I covered with it on my boat trailer frame several years ago and it hasn't started to rust since. And that's with me launching it in the Gulf of Mexico on a regular basis.

[@mikedavis1127]

Hope your luck has been better these last two years since this video!

[@ryansremark6983]

Big mistake on the eastwood internal frame. Rusts even quicker with moisture build up. fluid film or something like corroseal only way to go.

[@JeepingNet]

Interesting I've never heard that before. I'll certainly keep an eye on it. I actually just put 3 cans of fluid film through the Jeep 3 days ago. I do highly suggest fluid film, especially in those areas you can't easily key an eye on.

[@buffi944]

@@JeepingNet ignore him talking rubbish

[@ryansremark6983]

@@buffi944 lol... let your vehicle rust away. Doesn't bother me XD

[@sunnydlight2375]

@@ryansremark6983 rust is inevitable like universal entropy. you cant "hack" your way out of it.

[@Cachapeluo]

What your conclusions? Degreaser + POR 15 Metal Prep before the actual POR 15 paint?

[@czechnolike]

Very informative. Sounds like it's time for a move for you!

[@3rdstallgarage]

If you had it to do again, would you do the metal preparation step (spray it and then wash down) or would you just clean and put the POR15 directly in the clean metal? Thansk for the vid!

[@Jeepdriver75]

Chassis Saver FTW!

[@vicpnut1]

Didnt look like the por 15 peeled but the over coat did ,,,saw black paint still under that big peeled piece which I assume was the por 15 still holding ..accept the actual gouge of course….

[@realestateagent7184]

Screwdriver through the tire, house flooding, what's next locusts?

[@veesoho93]

Great video thank you

[@tony2tap955]

Spray Bedliner over the heavy impact areas

[@garybusey8349]

You need a barrier around your house. It sux you had to deal with flooding.

[@welcometoreality3450]

thin coats of POR15....I wonder if you did heavy coats hence why it may have peeled that way

[@JeepingNet]

I'm not sure you can really do heavy coats on anything over than something that is completely flat. This stuff is the consistency of water and not sticky at all when it first comes out of the can. I still really like it but for anything that gets wear, I'm finding it's not holding up. Nothing would really hold up but at least other paints would flake off. For skids going forward I'm just going to use cheap spray paint but any parts that aren't getting dragged over rocks Por15. My Por15 on the interior locations and on the bottom of the tub are awesome.

[@robbyknobby007]

Its definfinitely a 2nd coat, after it dries to fill in areas it didnt fully cover the first time around. Just know, 15 years ago a friend used it on his entire rusted doors on his offroad vechicle & it did very well. Excellent video & 2 year review.. Hope you have a better year ahead! I about to do this project on my 95 bronco. The fun begins.

[@robbyknobby007]

Also theres a good amount of top coat of extra protection that goes on top of the POR-15. I have a POR15 booklet, that has added protection for various parts of the truck. Even up to 1400 degrees and 2,000 degrees exhuast parts. Just watching your take, jump starting my project. Truly appreciate it. Winter is near!

[@welcometoreality3450]

@@JeepingNet sounds like either you didnt stir (not shake) the can, or you got a bad batch

[@robbyknobby007]

After 2 coats of por-15.. those cheap black foam brush comes in a variety pack, for $2.50. Those spread in nicely , compared to brushes.. Just listing the products, you can search them up to see what works best. Por-15 Tie-coat primer -buildable $ sandable, interlocking adhesion, very little prep to get top notch bond. Solid content of 60%. Self-etching primer -a bonding coat for por-15 & all other paints to bond strong to. *Pelucid - tough incredibly deep clear finish.. super clear super glossy & unbelievably tough.. Metal mask - extremely tough, very chip & scratch resistant & amazing close to the color of brand new cast iron or bare steel. Its perfect coating for high stress backetry, such as hood hinges, hood springs, hood latch assemblies. Super tough yet flexible, making it perfect for those areas where enamal paint is sure to flake away. FlexCote - develope for the marine industry to resist moisture & salt spray. Works well in any contruction & industrial application in any climate. Single compoment topcoat for use over por-15 or other paint & primed surfaces. Formula is packed with higher solids content than any other paint. Exceptional long term gloss & color retention. Extremely flexible & resist abrasion & chipping, means long term durability. In 16 great colors. Topcoats Stirling silver - med gloss silver appearence. Contants leafing pigments & should be clear coated for max durabililty. BlackCote - beautiful glassy finish, perfect for restoring the gloss black frames, chassis & underhood parts. Chassis coat black - has a smooth , satiny semi-gloss finish, and probably more correct as original for under hood & chassis components produced in the usa for cars in early 1950s to today. Theres more stuff, but i list things surrounding what youre looking for. Just to brew ideas, on your next project ahead. So if you use something else- definitely use the etching primer- so it bonds well on top of the por-15. Cheers, mate & goodluck on round 2!

[@jamesschmidt1120]

Just use cosmoline, overall it is a superior product

[@neuberas]

excellent video, man!

[@georgehaldas5153]

It goes on bare metal not painted with scratched surfaces. It will peal off of any covered surface including galvanizing.

[@JeepingNet]

I agree but you can see the section that pealed for me was bare metal under the por 15. Which is why I was surprised this area was one that pealed.

[@jasonabrunho5963]

i just recently bought POR-15 and wanted to paint the floor on my 190e. Do i have to get it back to metal before painting?

[@smearedperogies5047]

@@jasonabrunho5963 I'm not a professional but I dont think you do. This stuff binds to pretty much everything

[@sonofliberty92]

POR = Paint Over Rust

[@andyh8239]

This video would have been better if you hosed the garage floor down with at least an inch of standing water.

[@kenprice5008]

Tamco it works

[@dnewty]

how did you prep between the POR15 and bed liner? did you lay it on when the POR15 was still tacky? still holding up to this day?

[@JeepingNet]

For the interior, it was a few days between the Por15 and Monstaliner. I used a scotch pad and roughed up the surface, I think washed with dove soap, it dry, and then came back with some degreaser and cleaned it up. It's been a few years now and my Monstraliner has held up insanely well. It looks as good as the day I did it.

[@Ikillintel1]

Did you use their degreaser and metal prep? did you follow the instruction after using their metal prep? I didn't see your first video... I have seen other videos and its just being done wrong.

[@JeepingNet]

Yes, I have another video where I show everything how I installed. I regressed a few times, metal prepped and followed the instructions. I'm still pretty happy with it in most places. It is also top coated with 2-3 coats of a generic black spray. I just don't think I'd use it on non-rusted metal in the future. It's good still on 95% of the jeep and this thing gets dragged over rocks.

[@Ikillintel1]

@@JeepingNet Ahh, ok! I'm gonna do my seasoned but rust free frame (87 YJ) with it (doing frame off) but I'm top coating with Raptor Liner. I do not do a lot of rock crawling, but I do find myself in water and mud and that stuff even after pressure wash doesn't always come out of all the nooks. Thanks for the reply.

[@2vcrew782]

Dude you need RP348

[@JeepingNet]

What is RP348?

[@rickedwards7172]

Did you prep and seal your gas tank, maybe I missed that ?

[@JeepingNet]

No, I purposely didn't prep the gas tank skid. I wanted to see if it make much of a difference. I smashed and dragged the skid over so many rocks before replacing it this summer no paint would have held up to it. However, inside the skid was still in pretty good shape.

[@rickedwards7172]

Thanks. My dilemma is I recently got a hold of a 92 Stealth tt, that was stored for 11 years in a garage, without any storage prep :_ ) So the gas in the tank was not gas, but pretty much 100 percent veneer, and it is pretty rusted. So I was looking at the best option to restore it. I was also looking for an option to restore some on the under carriage also; I enjoyed your advice.

[@eijijivjiv]

i mean what do you expect when your smash your frame on a rock

[@JeepingNet]

For it to scratch like regular paint. Not peel.

[@miloslavchlouba7643]

What do you expect when you smash your frame with a rock lol

[@twigsledracer]

That is what I thought also. But nice to see that as long as I don’t hit rocks it will hold up.

[@mackendw]

dude...sell the house and buy a boat!

[@JeepingNet]

haha the ironic thing was I sold my sailboat when I bought this property.

[@mackendw]

@@JeepingNet hopefully the waters stay away. I just built a home within 300M of a waterway...so I know that feeling when storm surges hit. all the best.

[@timothyandrewnielsen]

Rust is like cancer dude, can't stop it.