Pinning this with common Q&A Q: What about moments where you need to move camera and cast abilities at the same time? Isn't it impossible for you to do both since your hand can't be on both sides of the keyboard? A: This situation never actually happens. My keyboard is already pre-centered on where the action is going to occur. For example, if I'm heading towards a fight, the camera is already positioned at the fight while I run to it. if the fight is moving in a specific direction, my camera is already positioned on that direction. If I'm diving a turret let's say, it's not like I have the camera on myself, then I dive the turret, then I'm like "oh shit I gotta move the camera" and I can't cast abilities. It's more like I know I'm diving a turret so I center the camera on the turret while I'm walking to it, then I dive. I can also move my camera during any window where there's ability buffers. Think Kayn R invulnerability timer or Kayn W grounding him for half a second. All this combined means I literally just do not ever run into situations where I gotta move my camera and cast abilities at the same time. Q: Why not use WASD? Same benefits as arrow keys but the keys are even closer A: I answered this in the video twice, but for those who didn't watch it or were skipping around or something, the answer is that my hand is way too inflexible to have that many keys that close together. It actively hurts my hand to have keys in close proximity, such as Minecraft sprinting and crouching hurting my hand. Trying to use WASD 1234 together would just result in my hand cramping up all the time.
@yelv11 ай бұрын
When I saw your channel name has “psychopathic” in it, I didn’t think it was serious.
@qmqr11 ай бұрын
clinically insane, thanks poro!
@xkavvu954511 ай бұрын
The amount of mental illness I got as this video progressed was amazing you're the goat
@psychopathicporo11 ай бұрын
Awesome, that was the goal
@qmqr11 ай бұрын
ok, after finishing the video, every single minute and every statement felt like a fucking mental flashbang, absolutely phenomenal video i wish i could like and dislike it at the same time and cant wait for the next one, also thanks for the shoutout haha
@psychopathicporo11 ай бұрын
hi amar what did u think of my typing test
@qmqr11 ай бұрын
@@psychopathicporo reminds me of the t1 typing test, typing with two fingers is inefficient, im able to flame all 9 other players in my lobby much faster using all ten of my fingers. Shame on you for being inefficient.
@quiethours181811 ай бұрын
I can now add "Mental Flashbang" to my lexicon, thankyou for giving the perfect phrase for this lol. Love the video and comment.
@PAPA1492311 ай бұрын
time to get a keyboard for your feet for optional camera controls
@i_saidmeow24695 ай бұрын
Unironically I would think about that
@Snoui11 ай бұрын
7:00 I rebound this to a key on my keyboard instead of mousewheel. "Mouse button drag scroll" setting in game settings is a massive improvement to it as well.
@sillyman9311 ай бұрын
The q e r c ability using is actually genius if especially if you’re coming from fps games like me I absolutely despise useing number keys for anything cause it’s such a large stretch but q e r c is already so natural
@CoffeeGameMovie10 ай бұрын
Yap, im using WASD camera, with skills on: QEFC around that, R is attack move, TAB is stop move. Its so symmetric if u see it on the KB. Active items on 2-3 number keys just above the W button, eay to reach, and symmetric too.
@mayourknees833911 ай бұрын
i think its default f9 that locks your mouse to your screen with a red outline so your camera doesnt spas out
@evasivoarcane74411 ай бұрын
I remember I played minecraft pvp/hg with unusual setup of key bindings too, my sprint was on Ctrl, meanwhile my inventory was on R, and I moved with convencional asdw. So my thumb was fixed permanently over ctrl, while my other fingers had to move across all the keyboard space, and so I played with a folded hanh all the time. I was pretty good at quickdropping and x1 in general, but not a beast of a player , but when my friends saw me play by the first time in person they thought I was a madman, because sometimes I had pressed ctrl with my thumb and 7-8-9 keys with my pinky, having my elbow elevated and my wrist rotated almost 180 from a normal position, just to drink a soup while sprinting, and mouse clicking like crazy. And most impressive: Yea, it was all really quick movement, muscle memory is something much more powerful and influential then we might think. Also, when I had to change keyboards, I was significantly nerfed for months, ultil I had practiced and adquired good spacial awearness with the new keybord
@GCOSBenbow11 ай бұрын
Never seen it written as asdw, its always been wasd.
@evasivoarcane74411 ай бұрын
@@GCOSBenbow hahahaha nice to know a ramdom cultural diference. Here in Brazil we write 'asdw'. Also, we laugh with kkkkkkkkk
@xkavvu954511 ай бұрын
@@evasivoarcane744 both of these facts are mind blowing lmaoo kkkkk I mean
@santhiagorocha871911 ай бұрын
time to watch this video and compare it to the WASD camera binding from the nidhogg video and develop something in between
@psychopathicporo11 ай бұрын
Imma keep it real with you, I didn't even realize nidhogg posted his keybinds video until yesterday
@santhiagorocha871911 ай бұрын
@@psychopathicporo tbf he only posted it 2 weeks ago
@kanayadeliz258411 ай бұрын
I have attack move click bound to 3, which usually baffles people. The reason I do this is because I used to be a fiora one trick, and the 3 key is right above the E key, which is her AA reset. The muscle memory remained, and I still do this despite being a Hwei main now lol
@Bean_Soup11 ай бұрын
Great video. I was wondering if there was a method to the madness but turns out it was just madness
@Xeroskia8 ай бұрын
I actually did not think about it really until watching this, but I also only type with like 3 of my fingers; both pointers and my left middle finger, and it's worked wonderfully for me for at least 20 something years. I never really thought about it and I laughed when I saw this and said "man, it's kinda weird you don't use your thumb to hit spacebar when typing", and spending at least 30 seconds completely missing the fact that I don't either LOL. Learned it that way because my hands were small and my fingers were long so stretching them apart was really uncomfortable. The creative things we do to compensate for discomfort is mindblowing.
@philoc706311 ай бұрын
As a starcraft player, the pointer finger thing gives me anxiety, but at that same time it seems like heaven on my wrists
@eeeriche720911 ай бұрын
I use a semi lock setting for camera movement my abilities are on a w d and "space" and my summoners are on q and e. I'm so glad i found someone as psychotic if not more than me
@Lilybun11 ай бұрын
Edge pan normally but spacebar tap to re-centre during fights with no time to edge pan?
@kit983711 ай бұрын
this was like a repeating flashbang in video form
@user-fz2vq9rp2t11 ай бұрын
i personally use WASD for cam, and shifted skills and spells to be QERT and FG. i had similar binds when i played MMOs. 1-6 and QERTFG + modifier keys (shift, ctrl)
@samuelmcswain75778 ай бұрын
thanks for the middle click tip. i might finally unlock my screen after all of these years!
@vanatrix19428 ай бұрын
My GF had a similar game camera situation. She used to play WoW without a mouse, and as a result had camera controls on the WASD keys. Even though she has a mouse now, she still uses the manual camera on WASD and shifts the W, E and R abilities over one key to E, R and T. I tried using her account once. Never again. Bonus: I have self cast on ASDF and summoners on mouse side buttons.
@flemlius350711 ай бұрын
I wish there was an option to set the camera control to what Heros of the Storm has. The camera moves with your hero as if it's locked onto it, but you can move the center elsewere with the usual ways you have in League. Since the camera moves with you, there's no need for constant adjustments, but you still have far vision in the direction you need. I'm used to playing with locked camera in League and didn't have any issues whatsoever using these camera controls.
@skeley677611 ай бұрын
so simply hold space to lock the cam and when u wanna move it stop holding space
@flemlius350711 ай бұрын
@@skeley6776 That is unfortunately still with the center on the champion, plus it requires me to permanently hold down a button
@Dogo.R11 ай бұрын
Flexibility is based on stretching. If you never move your hand thats why it feels bad. Its very unlikely that it has to do with something your born with, similiar to how doing the splits is a effectively a practice thing not a "are you born able to" thing.
@psychopathicporo11 ай бұрын
You would think, but I'm inflexible all the way around to a concerning degree. I ran cross country for 5 years and we stretch daily, but I was so horrid at stretching that the nurse wrote up a note for me that specifically excused me from doing the stretches since she said they were more likely to hurt me than not. Also I have the school record for the WORST sit and reach test ever clocked, at -14 inches
@BOOMDIGGER11 ай бұрын
In a game all about fast rections, having your hand on arrow keys when you need to Q fat ist pretty bad. You even said you use Quickcast cause the indicators slow you down by like 1ms, but moving your entire hand accross the keyboard is even slower?
@lilya_ry11 ай бұрын
why'nt useth wasd for camera and 1234 for abilities?
@firepp90110 ай бұрын
I always used the arrows movement and kept moving my hand back and forth from the QWER and never once felt like it was such a problem. I find strange that people look at this control scheme and act so surprised xD. It just works! And I find I have more control playing like this than moving the camera with my mouse.
@yamiraguero554111 ай бұрын
At least you don't have $ key for midas. Hope someone gets this reference.
@GCOSBenbow11 ай бұрын
As a former laptop gamer I understand your pain; I however went the opposite, arguably more, psychopathic route and played 2 hands on the track pad and only used mouse control (except for flaming people that were probably better than me). As such I can't judge you too much :P
@georgesummer53611 ай бұрын
I move camera on WSAD, moving hand to arrows seems a bit too much lol
@DucaRii73111 ай бұрын
doesnt pressing F9 disable moving the camera with your mouse? it puts like a red border around ur screen
@psychopathicporo11 ай бұрын
In order to use F9 on my keyboard, I gotta press the function button on the bottom left and then the F9 button in the top center at the same time
@DucaRii73111 ай бұрын
@@psychopathicporo yea but since u never wanna move ur camera with ur mouse u could just toggle it on at the start of each game and then be good right?
@psychopathicporo11 ай бұрын
@@DucaRii731 perhaps, wouldn't want a red border on my screen though
@karambadodox11 ай бұрын
Just put a black border overlay around the screen then, it would be impossible to notice.
@Schwaka10 ай бұрын
Nidhogg recently made a video about using WASD for camera control to keep your cursor focused on the fight, and he also uses lower DPI for more precise mouse movement. I haven't tried it as I haven't really been playing League for the last month or so, but it definitely sounds like an interesting idea once you get used to it.
@dmlr711 ай бұрын
I too move the camera with the arrow keys, but because I have a tartarus, and those keys end in my thumb as an stick
@Poisonslash10 ай бұрын
Very interesting setup. Quick question though: Have you ever tried to increase your hand and finger flexibility through exercises? Back when I was a teen and started playing guitar I ran into a similar issue that you have with keyboards, I could not space my fingers far enough on the frets to play some chords properly due to lack of flexibility. A guitar instructor showed me some guitar exercises that really helped build flexibility and improve my playing. Perhaps something could benefit you, even if it isn't with the goal of changing your keybinds but simply reduce the pain of hitting keys like Shift in other games.
@urgotp548711 ай бұрын
I also have the habit of moving the camera with arrows, but i do not relly entirely on it. I only do it when i need to click on certain spots at the same time (Which is like 50% of my camera moves.) I can't imagine using it 100% of the time.
@Antivist6911 ай бұрын
Absolutely bewildered rn
@morosov459511 ай бұрын
Tip for f-keys not working: The setting is in your bios (press "delete", "esc" or "F2" during PC restart)
@eteonesteodoro236811 ай бұрын
Why you don't post gameplay, it would be so amazing😢
@psychopathicporo11 ай бұрын
You can check my twitch vods, lots of stuff there
@ElfireII11 ай бұрын
So you play moonlight sonata while playing league of legends. Absolutely psychopathic im looking forward to the next guide. Also middle mouse click is indeed the best option.
@hangelbaerchen50911 ай бұрын
I do the same thing when playing rts, like cam controll with arrows then controll groups with number keys on the left lol
@captaineflowchapka553511 ай бұрын
i always played with camera unlocked ,but my thumb permanantly glued to spacebar ,but the moment Y is pressed by accidend i noticed and it fuck me over , i genuialy no idea when or how i moove my camera , so seing the possibility of playing the game with arrow key is interesting , then again i can't do complex moovment with my two han at the same time
@kenshi429610 ай бұрын
I've seen a challenger guy use wasd and 1234 as controlls, This might be an upgrade honestly
@ZeePanzer10 ай бұрын
Me who use movement on spacebar cus for 2 years i had a broken mouse
@edde242910 ай бұрын
There's usually an "fn lock" key on keyboards with special function for fkeys. Not sure if yours has one but if it does you could try that
@fleuphy11 ай бұрын
i actually didn't think of misclicking. my first thought of a drawback is the fact that you can't use abilities while also moving the camera at the same time. With mouse controls, you can click to move, move the camera, and use abilities all at the same time, so if you have to quickly react to something while you are moving the camera, most players can flash or dash away. but you, i assume, would have to react to that happening, move your arm all the way back to the flash key, and then click it, which adds (im assuming) half a second of reaction time to anything that happens while you are moving the camera, which in today's league of legends can easily cost you your life. How do you overcome this?
@psychopathicporo11 ай бұрын
Never comes up. There's essentially no scenario where I need to cast abilities and move my camera at the same time since I always have my camera centered around wherever the fight that's about to happen will occur. I also readjust my camera whenever an ability I'm casting has a buffer window. Take kayn for example who has a W with a buffer on cast, Q with a buffer during the dash, E where I cast it and then move through walls for multiple seconds, or R where I'm literally invulnerable and have nothing to cast. I can move my camera during any of these moments without losing even a millisecond of potential casting time
@PlebCentre11 ай бұрын
ngl mouse buttons to move the map is lowkey the best thing ever
@KiaraFriedDeadbeat11 ай бұрын
I've got a setup on my 502 where I use my scroll-wheel to move my camera haha.
@aegisofficial381910 ай бұрын
Look at your keyboard, search for an icon with F inside of a lock, or something similar. Once you have found this key, which should be on your Function row, press Fn+that key (Its usually Esc) Congrats, now your function keys are usable in-game and you have to press Fn+Volume key to change volume, the way it should be.
@PlumGod11 ай бұрын
Quite the fitting name
@swiftwithoutnumbers11 ай бұрын
I feel like there is a setting to disable edge of screen camera control. Ill get back to you on that Edit: I thought setting mouse camera control speed to 0 would disable it but it didnt. There is a keybind in the menus section called "Toggle Mouse Screen Lock" that is bound to f9 by default but can be changed so you can use it. Downside is that you probably have to enable it at the start of every game and theres a red border around the screen, which shouldnt effect anything but is personal preference.
@PracticalPotato11 ай бұрын
you need to go into your config files to change mouse camera control speed to negative 16.67 (-0.1667 in config)
@cococows11 ай бұрын
I use the side buttons on my mouse for QWER. I have done this for so long idk how to play normal anymore...
@janthran8 ай бұрын
hey man, there IS a setting for turning the edge scroll off. i don't play with it turned on because i prefer middle mouse drag for it
@RanarrDealer11 ай бұрын
Unpopular opinion: for a lot of champs (especially melee champs) locked camera isn't that bad. You can always unlock it when you need to. Most people are just elitist. I have lock camera set to hold space which is probably not ideal, but again muscle memory and i have big hands. I just pick my thumb up whenever i want to move my camera
@psychopathicporo11 ай бұрын
Locked camera isn't great. Hard to track enemies accurately in fights with locked cam imo
@luigibraun70959 ай бұрын
You can press F9 to disable edge scroll
@psychopathicporo9 ай бұрын
ugly yellow border
@luigibraun70959 ай бұрын
@@psychopathicporo yeah better not have the border and instead get cucked while diving as hecarim
@eeeriche720911 ай бұрын
I think you can just turn the mouse camera sensitivity to 0 which should essentially disable edge scroll
@bobbobington292111 ай бұрын
You can disable cursor edge panning by pressing F9.
@nishaad328510 ай бұрын
Me watching this video while ive used locked screen for 8 years.( im never switching no matter what anyone says ive got to diamond rank with it and switching to unlocked seems like such a pain)
@Gilded_God11 ай бұрын
I have a video suggestion Viego mid. I know he used to be played mid but I've never seen him played mid and I think it would be an interesting video.
@masterblaster267811 ай бұрын
Made me feel deeply uncomfortable and terrified, thank you, have a like
@abdulazizabdulaziz630410 ай бұрын
Make video on gragas
@hughjanus8711 ай бұрын
The best keybinds are actually on the right side of the keyboard anyways, kinda like the core hotkeys in starcraft 2, but the league version
@SonikHolik11 ай бұрын
Good method, think it's actually just better than edge-scrolling (especially with your proficiency). The only method as you mentioned is the WASD or SZXC for camera. Think scroll wheel drag is not better either since the whole point is to alleviate your mouse from having to control the camera. Good vid!
@jaexynn11 ай бұрын
I imagine another disadvantage you failed to mention is that you cannot cast spells while moving your camera. I can't tell if you use space to center-camera, in which case this disadvantage could be mitigated, but still there nonetheless
@rockmegaman10 ай бұрын
I play with ASDF GV for summoners E for attk move
@spiffysparks9 ай бұрын
vs the Chad camera lock player
@nelieberdochnicht11 ай бұрын
How do you get rid of the Ability-Keybind-Icons? I saw this on a few streams, but never found the setting / option. TY for answering in advance
@psychopathicporo11 ай бұрын
How do I get rid of the what?
@nelieberdochnicht11 ай бұрын
at the bottom of ur abilities, theres normally icons of their keybind, like q,w,e,r, just like the summoner spells. But your abilities do not seem to have these symbols beneath them ...
@psychopathicporo11 ай бұрын
@@nelieberdochnicht ok i figured it out. It automatically lists what you have your abilities binded as. However, since I have both quickcast and quickcast with indicator binded individually, I actually just straight up dont have my default abilities binded to anything which makes it show up as empty.
@nelieberdochnicht11 ай бұрын
Tysm for actually taking the time to respond. Loved ur Kayn top guide btw
@jiraiya55297 ай бұрын
OH MY GOD! OH NO! JOSEPH HE IS THE ARROW KEY USER HIS STAND OH NO!!!
@eryalmario529911 ай бұрын
Zxcv is fine for panning to allies
@danty_1111 ай бұрын
Well who tf thought I would get called out for using qerc keybinds by somone who move his camera with the arrow keys Crazy things
@flamingrose145311 ай бұрын
you know you can move your camera by holding down middle mouse button (mb3) then moving your mouse right?
@psychopathicporo11 ай бұрын
I say that in the video💀
@SillyLittleDemon11 ай бұрын
i am curious to see how you justify adding a full second of input delay to your game
@mllhild11 ай бұрын
Wait you can move with the mouse wheel button? Also I cant imaginge playing artillery mages that way.
@seadragonet173811 ай бұрын
its like king's controls but worse XD i respect it edit: nvm cring person commenting before watching the whole video
@Tu-py6nn3 ай бұрын
You must be a short 5'4 guy like me with small hands. I too have problems hitting shift when using wasd lol
@psychopathicporo3 ай бұрын
@@Tu-py6nn 5'7 with extremely small hands
@phgumerr64611 ай бұрын
DAMN and I thought I was weird for having my abilities on wasd
@silfyn111 ай бұрын
Welp, to the shredder.
@Vinicius-Bigode11 ай бұрын
Reminds me of that pro who plays CSGO with inverted mouse aim.
@Iyaruki11 ай бұрын
holy shit you're like one of the only people i've seen that also types with their index fingers
@psychopathicporo11 ай бұрын
Never fucking learned how to type gang
@miguli586511 ай бұрын
press f9 while ingame that should remove the ability to move camera with mouse test in practice tool first but for me it works
@MrRBX10 ай бұрын
Does the space bar not exist
@psychopathicporo10 ай бұрын
I use it to center the screen on my champion
@Braxtonkai9 ай бұрын
been a gamer all my life and played tons of fps games so I actually customize all the games I play around wasd. My Q= A, W=S, E=D and my ult is W. Sums on Q and E. I also hate the default edge pan and can never get the settings right, so I play camera locked 75% of the time and go into the ui config for league to change mouse drag to The left mouse button (as lol won't let you by default)
@coonrat111 ай бұрын
I play on trackpad and have move mapped to space bar
@aaronsound11 ай бұрын
will awsd camera give carpal?
@psychopathicporo11 ай бұрын
wasd with 1234 is too close together for me, would cramp my hand
@ronmalgeron752511 ай бұрын
I actually cant finish the video it actual hurts me
@cahallo596411 ай бұрын
Your controls are actually just the default ones, like, even the ones you said you weren't sure are default! (Including the arrow keys) This is very funny to me.
@psychopathicporo11 ай бұрын
Quickcast and zxcv aren't default and nobody uses the arrow keys even though they're technically default
@cahallo596411 ай бұрын
@@psychopathicporo True I am just stoopid it seems
@GlazedGoose6 ай бұрын
theres no way that using just your pointer fingers helps prevent carpal tunnel. It just seems much worse from ur hands and when I used to type like that I got much more hand pain
@PamellaCardoso-pp5tr11 ай бұрын
in brazil we had a brazilian professional player who played like that and even won a cblol moving his camera with the arrow keys. He was an adcarry btw 😂😂😂
@psychopathicporo11 ай бұрын
This is why CBLOL is the best
@longvo41369 ай бұрын
Bro you can change fn key behavior in BIOS settings
@martin71211 ай бұрын
Moving the camera with the edges suck, they should let you disable that
@jordamn83528 ай бұрын
now that I think about it, I am scared that I've most likely lost to people who have similar stupid settings lol
@rhesty523511 ай бұрын
YOU CAN PRESS F9 TO DISABLE EDGE SCROLLING. YOU CAN PRESS F9 TO DISABLE EDGE SCROLLING. YOU CAN PRESS F9 TO DISABLE EDGE SCROLLING.
@psychopathicporo11 ай бұрын
Ugly red border
@rhesty523511 ай бұрын
@@psychopathicporo sv trve
@enejfangirl36411 ай бұрын
FINALLY DRAG CLICK GETTING MENTIONED IM A PROUD DRAG CLICKER🦅🦅🦅
@adelinpanait749311 ай бұрын
my friend uses 1,2,3,4 for abilities
@ibrahim546311 ай бұрын
I remember when i first played league and qued as ahri mid,i was still pressing W to move forward and never used my E or Q,i didn't even use Y spacebar P S or any F keys wich i just press now evrey other second,if only the idea of "change your keybinds"occured,i swear getting used to the controlls is like 40%of learning league,luckley new players have your guide but i can't use it now,i am too deep in this QWER controlls.
@Chantyman_11 ай бұрын
I have my ult on space
@albertoHammyer11 ай бұрын
Many good points, but saying arrow keys are better because of time loss from having to drag your mouse to edge of screen and back is just wrong, it's the same if not less time loss than having to move your hand from qwer to arrows, if you can move your left hand that fast and precisely, why wouldn't you be able to do the same with the right?
@psychopathicporo11 ай бұрын
check pinned
@reganmcmahon382310 ай бұрын
try playing zeri
@Notllamalord11 ай бұрын
I use “q” to sprint in Minecraft because I’m a thumb shifter
@MsST3F4N6 ай бұрын
Does your keyboard not have an FN lock? lol
@psychopathicporo6 ай бұрын
@@MsST3F4N nope
@EpiKNathandu1211 ай бұрын
The main con I find with this setup, that you don't talk about in this video, is actually: There are points in time in your game where you cannot cast spells, as you literaly don't have your hands on that side of your keyboard. Most players can, and will, use spells while moving the camera, with no problem whatsoever. This is, in my eyes, the true downside of such bindings - granted it shouldn't impact your winrate too much, but it would absolutely impact my ability to play the game if I were to play like you!
@psychopathicporo11 ай бұрын
check pinned
@Vanaolla10 ай бұрын
The most ridiculous part of this whole set up is flash on f