Porphis Spray Guns, PRD715, PRD625 & WP99, Quality Chinese Guns? , I Think So

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[@kr2513]

Comprehensive coverage yet again. These guns are reminding me of the saigole gun I almost got a few years ago. The hanging hook was in the shape of an upper case B though very strange looking. The only reason I don’t get any Chinese guns is I fear the gaskets will go wrong quickly. Some patent has to have expired with all these sata-like guns. Thank you for doing all the patterns on all the guns, I’ve avoided buying probably two guns because I could tell it was too small for me.

[@peteshobbies5383]

You're most welcome, buddy . Thanks for watching 👍

[@JohnWD40TC02]

Hi Pete, very nice looking guns I could get used to having a few of them on my gun rack😁you can just tell from the video that they look to be decent quality which is nothing like the cheap Chinese copies that you see for sale and that I have used😆 I do like the look of the PRD715 as it's very Sata like but different (if you know what I mean) I think it's just the look of the body and the way the controls are placed🤔 I'm looking forward to seeing the spraying and review of each gun, cheers Pete👌👍

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi John, Yes, hopefully, the quality does show on the video. The PRD715 is quite sata like although it differs in that all the controls are metal. On the Sata, they are plastic painted chrome. It feels very similar in the hand, I really like the WP99G, a side cup split tip gun, very nice indeed, the other one PRD625 is proving just as good as well, as I say, I've been surprised by the build quality. Cheers, mate. I'll get some individual reviews up when I can, I've had them a while, but I wanted to give them time to see how they stood up but so far, so good 👍

[@JohnWD40TC02]

It always amazes me that you pay all that for the X5500 but you only get plastic controls, I mean wtf is that all about 🤷‍♂😆 I've been looking at these on their website and they make a few guns, the 2 that are black look like the walcom 190 when you first look at them but they all look well made, it's a shame you can't easily buy them from the site as I'm sure they would be very popular🤔cheers Pete👍

[@peteshobbies5383]

@JohnWD40TC02 Hi John, They are a manufacturer, so they will take order's from distributors and big dealers that want some guns in their name. That's one thing I was a little unsure about as people are bound to ask where they can buy them, and it's not that simple. One of the black guns is designed for left-handed painters, and the other is a new model

[@JohnWD40TC02]

I suppose they are more geared up to supply the distributors rather than the general public but I think they should also cater for joe public. So are these left-handed guns the same as left-handed hammers🤔🤪🤣I suppose if it's like a sata they could put the fan adjustment on the other side of the gun🔨🤔🤭👍

[@peteshobbies5383]

@JohnWD40TC02 I'm not sure what the differences are, to be honest, but they say its to cater for left-handed painters, so I presume there are some 🤔

[@3n1fss]

I’ve never heard of these. They look exactly like Sata.

[@ANDY-we7mr]

Cheap Chinese rubbish I rather have the real thing had a devilbiss GTI pro lite copy sold it

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Donna, these are a manufacturer in China, so they normally make them for other wholesale and distributors with there name on them. Some elements are similar to Sata, but others aren't. The thing I think that sets these apart is that the quality of engineering seems very good, not the normal standard. Only time will tell as to how they last, I've had the gun's for a few months without problems, so we will see, cheers, mate 👍

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Andrew, I think I will have to disagree with you there mate, these are a completely different level to the Devilbiss Gti Pro Lite copies, I've only had them 3 months, so only time will tell but definitely not run of the mill stuff at all, cheers buddy 👍

[@deanbrown7643]

Good looking guns Pete let's see how they perform 😊😊

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Dean, Yes, they are definitely built to a different level compared to others I've tried from China, and they perform really well, cheers mate 👍

[@nocandopdx]

Im sure you know this, but for people who watch on their phones, a good way of showing whether a gun sprays top or bottom heavy, turn the cap so that it sprays horizontally and spray it long enough for it to run and you get a very effective visual representation by seeing how it runs. Though it wouldn't show how fine the atomization is with that approach

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi buddy, Yes, that's a good way to show it, I try to convey what I see, which should help people, also, it is important to have a diaphragm regulator in the system, I have 2 so the pressure when you first pull the trigger is constant, otherwise you get an initial serge that can make a pattern top or bottom heavy through no fault of the gun, cheers mate, good comment 👍

[@ErikisOfficial]

I ordered both of those! I feel like these companies have figured out how to make a quality spraygun without the greed. Put Sata and Sagola name on the side of it and all of a sudden its a flagship spraygun that every painter must go out and buy.............for $800😁

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Erik , Yes, that is the exact same feeling I get. It's a quality product at reasonable money. They are more expensive than most Chinese guns, but they are obviously trying to make a better quality offering, so use better materials, which all costs money. I've been very impressed with everything I've had from the so far, hopefully that will continue, cheers buddy 👍

[@TyanPatrickBooth]

That wp99 looks a handy gun, shame they are hard to get hold of, same with the high end Italco guns that seem to have vanished off the net, my sata 3000rp digital copy I had from them was fantastic quality

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Mate, Yes, I particularly asked for this gun as it's a side cup, which I like, and it has the split tip, which gives excellent results. As far as I know, if people contact them via the details in the discretion, they will sell you one. That's what people have said. Maybe it's worth asking if you want one. Cheers mate 👍

[@TyanPatrickBooth]

@@peteshobbies5383 I have one of the knockoff iwata w101's and its great for painting alloy wheels being able to twist the gun and keep the pot level, and spraying in awkward places in general.

[@ErikisOfficial]

The prd625 1.4 is the only one that comes with a split nozzle. Cant wait to see how it sprays

[@peteshobbies5383]

I only have the PRD625 in 1.3. Does the 1.4 have a split nozzle? , if so, I need to get one 😂

[@ErikisOfficial]

@peteshobbies5383 yes if you look on the website under the prd625 (prd727) in the second column under "type" the "VS". It stand for v shaped which is their split nozzle version. It's does come in 1.3 and 1.4. I got mine in 1.4 because I remember the Wider4L 1.3 being really slow. I hope this might be faster.

[@peteshobbies5383]

@ErikisOfficial Yes, I have just looked. They must be newer editions as they weren't there a few months ago, I need to get one now 😂

[@ErikisOfficial]

@peteshobbies5383 😀 i ordered it today andbthe 715 a few days ago. The 627 isnt readily available in brown. They asked me if i wanted to wait, i said no.....I'm in LA and they nailed me on shipping $53. I'm trying to get a hold of those new Fine Finish spray heads for the 3M Performance. They are going to get me again on shipping. $45-55.

[@peteshobbies5383]

I've just ordered a PRD 717 with a split nozzle. The shipping is expensive, and we pay about the same for shipment, but it is normally a priority shipment, so it only takes 2 working days to my UK doorstep

[@PaintsprayerChinafactory]

Looks great!

[@peteshobbies5383]

Thank you, much appreciated 👍

[@FE428Power]

I've been looking at the website and the prd 717 has a 4 split tip. Will you be doing a review on it?

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Mate, Yes, I've ordered one, they have only been available the last few weeks as they are new. I'm really excited about getting it 😂

[@FE428Power]

@@peteshobbies5383 ty can't wait!

[@peteshobbies5383]

@FE428Power Neither can I 🤣😂😅👍

[@steveguest8028]

Hi Pete, good review as usual, where do you buy them from ? …. Cheers 👍

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Steve, I have put a link in the description, but as I was saying in the video, they are a manufacturer who make them for other companies, so it's not that straightforward. It you contact the email in the description, she will give you information on where you can get them from. Cheers mate 👍

[@steveguest8028]

@@peteshobbies5383 Thanks Pete 👍

[@peteshobbies5383]

@steveguest8028 No worries, mate. I first asked about 9 months ago if I could buy some, and they said no 😂, only distributors and big orders, but in the end, I got some and to be fair, they are definitely a cut above other Chinese guns, which is why I waited 3 months to do a video, will do some proper reviews individually later but thought an introduction video was better to start as people wouldn't have heard of them, cheers mate 👍

[@ianbuckwell1101]

Just bought a AliExpress gun after watching your other video, when you have a new cheap Chinese gun is there any way/need to clean out the body where the air goes through the handle/valve etc or is this unnecessary? Thanks

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi buddy, It's depends, some of them are coming with a lot of grease, that's inside the air tract which can cause problems, the last few cheaper Chinese guns I've had haven't had any excess. What I would and indeed do is just whip it apart and check. If some bits come through on your work, it is really annoying. It may not happen, but it's really annoying if it does. Cheers, buddy 👍

[@ianbuckwell1101]

@@peteshobbies5383 Thankyou

[@jonnow1234]

Hi Pete, Very much enjoy your videos and your work. It would be great and very useful if you could show / explain how you go about painting a tank. What I mean is the sequence and procedure for doing both the underside and then the top. I'm wondering if you do the underside first with Primer, base & clear, then turn over and repeat for the top? At the moment, I'm tending to Prime, then Satin black the underside, then turn over for the finish. This is mainly as a timesaver. Be great if you could show how you do it. Many thanks Jono

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Jono, thanks mate, good to hear you're enjoying the videos. On some of my videos, you will see me doing the underside as well. It all depends on the condition, what requirements are, etc. I tend to suspend the tank from the roof and prime the complete tank, then if it's base and clear on the underside I'll normally base and clear the underside, leave it till the following day, mask it, then do the top. Sometimes, I will do it all hanging from the roof, so base and clear it all at the same time. Again, some of my videos will show this. There's no set way I do things, really. It's whatever I think is best at the time.

[@jonnow1234]

@@peteshobbies5383Many thanks for your reply Pete, much appreciated. I know it's always a much better job if the underside is finished the same as the top, ie; base & clear, but it is a pain to do. I particulary like your dumb waiter rotary idea. I was lucky and bought a second garden table which had one. We never thought it would be used, so it's in my spray booth, and I find it's absolutely brilliant. Being able to turn it round and get my gun 90 degrees to the surface without having to hardly move is brilliant, so many thanks for that. I recently have bought an Iwata W400 Beleria for clear and it's brilliant. Just ordered a airbrush, so looking forward to learning how to use that and trying a little custom stuff. Once again, keep the videos coming and thanks you Jono

[@peteshobbies5383]

@jonnow1234 The underside of a tank is a funny thing, some like it to look as good as the top, others, me included sometimes like it in a satin finish and others just don't care as long as it's protected. Most of us would like to do a good job of the base as it's a reflection of your attention to detail, bike parts are quite complicated for the most part, lots of body shops won't do them as they are so time consuming. I'm glad you like the rotating table, I use mine loads and it really helps if space is limited, as you say, you don't need to move much to get full access to whatever is on it. Cheers buddy, appreciate the comments 👍

[@user-un5my5bw4j]

I need a new primer gun. Since switching over from all Walcom to the three Devilbiss DV1 guns and and FLG 1.8mm for primer. I love those three DV1 guns but I absolutely hate that FLG 1.8mm its an awful primer gun IMO. I wanted to try the porphis prd-1 or whichever its purple on their website and is available in 1.8mm. Problem is i cant get it in the USA. So now i am considering either an ANI F1/N 1.8mm, or an Iwata Wider 4 1.8mm

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Mate, The FLG5 is an OK primer gun but not particularly good. It is very reliable. I would go for the ANI F160 1.9, it's a very competent primer gun and similarly pricing to the FLG5, I wasn't impressed with the Kiwami4 BA4J 1.8, it's ok but not particularly inspiring, I have done videos on them all if you're interested

[@davidray4655]

If you can find a good used sata 100bf rp that's a fantastic primer gun. I use a 2.0 nozzle so I don't need to think the primer as much, but it will spray primer with little to no orange peel

[@biggysground]

Pete, have you any experience with Italco Shine and Mini Shine?

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi mate, No, as far as I know, they are quite new, they look pretty good although I don't know how they perform

[@polo-92]

I have both, and they both are really good guns.it’s weird, The italco mini shine hvlp is built like a sata with the plastic gasket but the bigger version lvmp is built just like a tekna pro lite/gti, even the tekna air cap fits it. They spray similar as well, great guns for the money, very well made.

[@peteshobbies5383]

I may get one to try, as far as I know they are all made in China, not sure who produces them 🤔

[@polo-92]

@@peteshobbies5383 I’ve read up on them, they ended up changing their name to auarita after sata sued them for patent infringement. Then I believe auarita was sued shortly after that and since then the guns are becoming harder to find. AliExpress and eBay still have some, I love both but the shine1 lvmp is my favorite.

[@biggysground]

Just by glance you can see influences of Devilbiss and Iwata as if it is an offspring of both, could be the holy grail of guns but then again it could be junk. This is why I asked you. Good day! @@peteshobbies5383

[@ianthomas5852]

The pattern is very good, can you tell me is upol paint any good. I'm living on a small Caribbean island and they stop bringing nason paint.

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Ian, It's not too bad to be honest, I've been using it for years, there clear coats don't flow as well as some but you can get good results once you are used to the products , cheers mate 👍

[@ianthomas5852]

@peteshobbies5383 thank you

[@peteshobbies5383]

@ianthomas5852 You're welcome, mate 👍

[@lutra7670]

Does this split tip nozzle fit the supernova ?

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi buddy, I haven't tried it to be honest, so I can't say

[@claytonparkhurst4328]

What was the pricing

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi buddy, there's links in the description. The last one is their retail website with prices

[@claytonparkhurst4328]

​@@peteshobbies5383 ha I even looked in the description.. didn't see the link it didn't load right the first time. Working fine now thank you sir

[@peteshobbies5383]

@claytonparkhurst4328 You're welcome, buddy 👍

[@juanrivera8566]

In your experience sir, what would be the benefit of buying a split nozzle gun. I already have a couple guns but I've been thinking about getting a split nozzle.

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Juan, I've found the split nozzle guns to atomise finer. It does tend to slow the gun down as it reduces the material flow, so it is better suited to a good quality clear coat that flows well. This allows for a thinner finer coating, certainly a real plus for custom work where finish is more important than speed 👍

[@juanrivera8566]

@@peteshobbies5383 alright I get it, so it does make a difference over the traditional nozzle. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

[@peteshobbies5383]

@juanrivera8566 Yes, I certainly think so, even in the smaller guns like the W300WB and LPH300 you really can notice it, as I say, it needs a better quality clear coat to really notice it but it definitely there, cheers buddy 👍

[@nocandopdx]

Hey what about the blue guns threads are they painted or plastic or how is it done? Ty

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi buddy, what threads do you mean? The ones on the cap and adjusting knows are anodised aluminium

[@jacielclaros4382]

hola amigo, que pistola recomiendas calidad precio a unos 250 200 dolares , que sea bueno para barniz y base color??

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hola amigo, algo como el Anest Iwata Kiwami4 sería una buena arma tanto para capas base como transparentes.

[@jacielclaros4382]

@@peteshobbies5383 otra arma que recomiendes amigo , la kiwami esta muy elevado su precio .

[@peteshobbies5383]

@jacielclaros4382 Ok, lo siento, ¿qué pasa con el ANI F160? , depende de dónde estés para saber cuánto cuestan. Son una muy buena pistola pulverizadora, yo elegiría la tapa de 1,3 HPS, una muy buena pistola para todo uso.

[@jacielclaros4382]

@@peteshobbies5383 amigo tu me remiendas la ani f160 plus HPS 1.3 500cc , esa tu me remiendas ?? o la silver?

[@peteshobbies5383]

@jacielclaros4382 Hola amigo, sí, el F160 HPS. Lo hacen en plateado o negro, el de este vídeo se usa para barniz 😀 kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZq7pIp_oM16jqc