Porsche 718 Boxster GTS 4.0 vs 718 Cayman GTS 4.0 FULL REVIEW racetrack with Mark Webber

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[@newflyfisher]

Thomas, thank you for the very detailed and relaxed presentation on the 718 Boxster GTS 4.0 . I have a 2005 911 cabriolet and always wished I had bought the 2016 GTS, then they switched to 4 cylinders and that ended that dream. Watched this video when it first came out, was so impressed I went to local Porsche dealership and ordered a 2021 Guards Red GTS. This was of course before COVID-19 closed everything down, but got the order in. They told me car won't arrive until March 2021 but that is okay, gives me something to look forward to next spring! Thanks again for all your reviews, very much enjoy them.

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[@johnwhite6961]

I have an active order myself. A few months before yours. Can - not - wait!

[@newflyfisher]

@@johnwhite6961 I'm told delivery will be end of March and yes, I am excited about this car as well. I have 2005 911 but I actually like driving a boxster more (borrowed a friends 2014 Boxster S).

[@UniversalControl]

Mark Webber - a true gentleman! Thomas as well, of course! 😃

[@anthonycbrown1952]

A special shout-out to Jonas on this video as his camera work was exceptional as always. The camera work was great and your grip (Jonas) on the door handle remained constant (true sign you trust Thomas behind the wheel on the street and on track). All the best to you both.

[@autogefuehl]

way to go =)

[@neilpatching7443]

Really enjoyed it Thomas and Jonas thank you for bringing it to us in Full Length

[@MyUtubefreak]

PDK is available for $3730 compared to $3210 for the GT4. My build specs for the GTS 4.0 compared to the GT4 with the same options was less than $8K. Unless you're going with a minimal spec GTS 4.0, you may as well get the GT4.

[@MagicAyrtonforever]

I love how the tyres are squealing ALL the time while Mark Webber is driving around corners :-)

[@alexhong8204]

big thanks to Thomas for a very honest assessment of the Cayman lineup and the recommendation for the base model instead of the GTS 4.0. very logical explanation.

[@autogefuehl]

Thx for your appreciation :)

[@user-kw9qu2gz8v]

Great review Thomas. I have to say these are much more appealing than the 718 4 cylinder versions.

[@einautofan6685]

Yep, finally Porsche put the right engine in it!😎👍

[@wonigu]

yes but it costs like 1.5 times more.

[@sloppy-1-1]

I mean, if you just want a nice 'small' sports car, and don't really care about sound etc. The 4 cylinder is good enough. But its very nice that porsche gives us the option.

[@ClintDayCMD]

Really great, detailed review. Best one I've seen yet. Can't wait to take delivery of my 22 CGTS4 next Spring!

[@autogefuehl]

Thanks 🙏 and enjoy 😊

[@jon8687]

What a terrific video about a magnificent car. Thanks Thomas and it was an added bonus to have Mark Webber take a few laps. Carmine red with the red instruments looked awesome. If I was in a position to chose, it would be a Crayon 6-spd Manual GTS 4.0 Cayman no question. I do like the Cayman for very long time.

[@howardschaefer1445]

Having had a 6cyl 987 with Fabspeed bypass exhaust I am now waiting for a 718T. Having driven several 718 cars I find the sound of the 4cyl different, naturally, but also pleasing. Besides there's no way I could swing the price of the GTS. The 987 2.7 was also gutless below 3000rpm and the 2.0 has an additional 60 hp. So I'm more than pleased and looking forward to the T.

[@borinvlogs]

I played with 718 base and not much difference on public road compared to my 987 3.4L Boxster S.

[@michaelschneider-]

+1. .. The 2.5l turbocharged Cayman S is the way to go at high altitude; 8200ft. .. The normally aspirated 6cyl's specific output suffers greatly at elevation. .. At Vail's 8K' elevation my '98 Carrera S (993) is a dog.

[@realleescoggins]

Nicely done Thomas. Really enjoyed this despite my ownership of the turbo-four version. Mark's comments about torque got me through it. haha.

[@drewmorg.]

It's the elephant in the room right now. Not many people are talking about the direct comparison between this new version and the outgoing 4 cyl turbo in terms of power.... I think the in the real world the old car will be faster, even if it doesn't sound great haha

[@m3ntas]

What a great decision from Porsche, having the 6-cylinder aspirated engine in a GTS 😍👏🏼👏🏼 Porsche best brand ever!!! Congrats from Spain!! 😃

[@yueibm]

Nice Autogefuhl microphone cover! :D Thank you for another great video! I've been thinking about a 981 or 718 Boxster to replace my 2.5L 986, but after reading some owner comments, I'm a little worried it's not as "open" as the original (lower seating and higher doors / windshield so less in the open air). I enjoy the 986's 5 speed Aisin transmission much more than my 996's 6 speed Getrag because of the crispness of the shifter... by applying just a light constant force on the shifter, it moves into gear right when the RPM is matched, and I can dump the clutch - the 996 6-speed has so much non-rotating friction that it barely has any shifter feedback. Even my 1969 912's very long shifter (with a newer 914 transmission) has good shifter feedback.

[@autogefuehl]

thanks man !

[@stephenwood9662]

I would like to see a direct comparison 718 GTS v 718 4.0 apart from noise I can’t see much difference,will this happen ...

[@juergenGTS]

Wow, I’ve seen many videos on this car but none was as through and helpful as yours. Danke!

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Always a great review. I continue to enjoy your product feedback and thoughts. Excellent job as usual. Thanks.

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Great show. Lovely to see Mark, my countryman. Exciting experience esp during quarantine. Thanks team Thomas and Jonas.

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Excellent review in every way guys. Better than any episode of Top Gear in the last 6 years

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[@jpk112]

Great review Thomas. I had a 99 Boxster 5 speed ordered new and I still miss the sound of that engine. Maybe the Cayman deserves a look.

[@WIR217]

I love your reviews Thomas, they are thorough and honest. I must admit that they help me in making my decision, that was 1.5 year ago when I bought the 718 GTS 2.5 PDK Boxster and 2 month's ago when I signed up for the new BMW M135i. I am so happy with my 4 cylinder Porsche, the 6 cylinder version would not have been an option. Firstly for its price tag and secondly it is priceless in Belgium to get a big engine on the road. For the 4.0l, I would in a life span of 10 years pay almost 40000€ and for the 2.5l approximately 8500€ and for me is 30000€ still a lot of money. Don't get me wrong, I get the fuss about big engines, but they are too expensive on the road. And you must admit the 4 cylinder isn't that bad :)

[@autogefuehl]

Thanks! Yeah totally fine 😎

[@Resist_Oppression]

I agree. I just picked up the 2.5 turbo and everyone complaining about sound is absurd. If you don't like it, change the exhaust. I'd that's the worst gripe from people, they should just stop driving. I've driven the 6 and the 4, and naturally, there's a difference, but not enough to make me not buy either.

[@laurentorduna9880]

Great job Thomas, it's always a pleasure, nothing better than the six cylinder's sound, amazing!!!

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Appreciated! :)

[@manuelrenz7281]

Best german 2020's car, best german reviewer. Thanks Thomas!😎 & nice watch, Mark👌

[@Banana-Joe007]

Thomas gutes Video. Two Gentleman on the circuit. Mark Webber one of the most personable Formula One drivers.

[@jef722]

superb review as always from autogefuhl,thank you guys!

[@johncollymore1697]

Excellent Review! You're always so detailed, but I suddenly realised that I didn't see where the hand-brake is! At 23:02 thanks for the "German lesson"! Loved the track sequence, the great driving, and your quick drift on the left-hander at 39:24. Great Mark Webber feature. Nice car, but very expensive! You ask which 718? I also liked the GT4 Spyder that AJ tested in Scotland last year! Many thanks Team.

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thanks as always john!

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I really love this channel, the detailed and leisurely pace is how we petrolheads want the cars explained, so that we can drive fast. :)

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[@RobinSingh-lf3iq]

Excellent review Thomas. Great to introduce and bring in Mark Webber as well! My only request is that you do a side by side comparison of the GTS 4.0 PDK and GT4 PDK. I really wonder if the PDK versions of those would outperform the 911 Carrera S PDKs on a track. Very very curious. Thank you so much!

[@kodymarksbury9399]

Thomas passing like a boss. 25:25

[@AquilHK]

Hey Thomas! I used your review to purchase the car I currently have, the 981 GTS and once again, you produce another spectacular review. I was wondering what your opinion is of the GTS 4.0 to the 981 GTS. Would it be worth upgrading or should I stick with what I have right now?

[@autogefuehl]

thanks! The 718 is just a major facelift of the 981, I don't see any significant reasons for you to change - unless having Apple CarPlay would be the absolute game changer for you :)

[@AquilHK]

Autogefühl thank you for responding. Apple CarPlay is not significant enough for me to consider upgrading at all. I’m looking forward to hearing your review on the pdk variants when they come. Looks like I’m holding onto my guards red GTS :)

[@shrunkspider6226]

I’m trying to find those seats in the Porsche confugurator. The only option that shows are those same bucket seats from the 911 GT3 RS

[@twinacid1]

Beautiful videos as always!

[@hwyfools]

Excellent review thank you! 6 cylinder PDK would be my choice. Hoping PDK makes it to the States 2020.

[@misterreeftank]

Thank you very much for this in-depth, well balanced review. Keep up the good work!

[@6SpeedTA95]

Looks like a fair amount of understeer in those corners. Not super surprised given the mid-engine layout of that Cayman.

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Great video Thomas. Greetings from Mexico!

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Autogefuhl, the feeling of the joy of driving ... WHOA! ... good to see you ride as well. The complete joy of personal transport.

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Awesome in depth videos! Regards from London.

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Thanks for this type of programs, very good for enjoy to see of a great car, maybe someone day ,why not, salute you Thomas!!!

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i've been waiting for this for a long time!

[@mark10601]

Most thorough car reviewer. 👍🏻🇬🇧

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Thanks 🙏 keep joining!

[@dlg5485]

Even given the absurd price, I think the 4.0 is still the best 718 to get, by far. It's more the ideal Porsche driving experience than the 2.5, which has totally different characteristics. I don't think the 2.5 is bad, by any means, but the 4.0 would definitely be my choice, although I'd go very light on the options to keep the price to a reasonable level. Excellent review, Thomas!

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thanks, keep tuning in !

[@Encourageable]

Wait, so you are saying that the more expensive Porsche would be your choice?

[@dlg5485]

@@Encourageable ALL Porches are absurdly expensive...what's your point?

[@skippynj1979]

Great video. My 24 GTS 4.0 CAYMEN is in production now!! I'm excited.

[@oscargoldman9911]

I kind of like the overrun pops and gurgles of my 981s. Sounds like they’ve been eliminated, true?

[@thecreator89]

Oscar Goldman seems that way. The 718 gts will run laps around us, but I like the burbling exhaust our 981s and gts have

[@clu4u]

It’s the particulate filters which mute the sound.

[@williamc9578]

Best Cayman yet. Minus Ceramic Brakes, minus Sports Bucket Seats (Sports plus adequate), Minus Black Wheels (just have 20in spider wheels), to reduce price. Manual vs PDK is a toss-up. If you are blessed to live somewhere with good winding semi-deserted roads, manual for sure. If you live in a big city and use it as daily commute, PDK. Particulate filters, and Cylinder deactivation in Normal-drive mode, should make-up some gap in CO2 emissions for the additional 2 cyls and the bigger Engine displacement.

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enjoy =)

[@GadgetyMV]

Mark Webber referred to electronic auto blip double de-clutching 'and it's helping on the downshift if you want to, but my old habits, I still like to help it a little bit myself.' Can you turn the electronic blip double de-clutching off in the Sport or Sport+ setting?

[@johnkorrison4812]

Thomas, the correct and British term for rev matching is “double de-clutching” and especially rewarding if combined with the heel and toe technique although none of this is necessary anymore with modern synchromesh gearboxes in good condition🤓

[@doriangray2347]

Mr. Thomas, which red is that? I am wanting to buy a car this week, order one, and am considering Carmine Red vs. Guards.

[@johnsun11]

The engine sounds so nice! My new ''attainable dream car''. Great review too.

[@waqarghulam3548]

So spyder or gts4? Which one is better? What’s the difference?

[@mackeymichael]

The noise that engine makes when you put your foot down is epic. Long live the flat-six boxer engine by Porsche !!

[@shakesnbake]

Great Mark Webber interview Thomas, and great review as always. So good to see an NA flat 6 again in the 718 :)

[@McBeamer94]

Tbh, the GTS 4.0 version is what a GTS version should be in the first place! The sound is amazing and shows how a driver's car must be! Sehr gutes Video, guys! 🤘

[@einautofan6685]

Ja, hätte von Anfang an drin sein sollen!😉

[@n4rek840]

Great video thank you so much for your great work , Will you present the all new Hyundai Nexo ? Thank you

[@autogefuehl]

thanks! Didnt have the chance to yet

[@n4rek840]

Autogefühl thank you

[@josem.c.4575]

Thank you very much for this fantastic test, with all the details, a great description and a video with splendid images. A real pleasure!. I love the Boxster GTS 4.0.

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Appreciated!

[@BerenErchamion]

Very nice review - thanks so much!

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🙏👍

[@michelebicc6983]

Thanks for your review! I like the fact that Porsche brought back the flat6 in the GTS, but the negative aspect is that this choice could make less “exclusive” the Spyder and the GT4, the engine is basically the same.

[@autogefuehl]

thanks !

[@zenithred9731]

The purest Porsche for everyday driving. Will order the 718 Cayman GTS 4.0 in March.

[@ArnoldWinters]

Thomas, will you review the 2022 Boxster GTS?

[@azmike3572]

I am fortunate enough to own both a '21 Mystic Red C8 Corvette HTC and a '14 Boxster MT base. Have to admit the Boxster is easier to drive, probably due to it being smaller, but when parked, I don't think most people know what it is, other than "some sports car", possibly in part due to its color (gray). On the other hand, the red Vette never fails to attract people asking questions about it and giving thumbs up on the road. I'd love to have a 718 GTS 4.0, but fear it might go as unnoticed as my Boxster (yes, that's importantant to me).

[@tamasszabo8824]

I have a 2010 987S PDK, so my vote goes for the Cayman GTS 4.0 PDK :) Great review BTW!

[@uweboker5983]

Auf den Punkt kommen die Informationen. Immer wieder ein informatives Format!

[@hypnotechno]

I am considering getting a Moodle Y. and this GT4. Would I be better waiting for the Taycan Turismo and just trying to have all in one and save some money etc

[@captnjim44smith74]

He referred to the manual transmission as ‘old school.’ That tells a lot about his experience. I have been a SCCA member. Some competition experience.

[@ManOfAllAges]

If you hear Webber's casual talk while driving you could think he's being careful with the car. But if you pay attention the tires are screaming in every corner :)

[@limpunsing224]

The 981 Boxster/Cayman GTS is a great alternative for me than buying this pricey 4.0 GTS mew Great content

[@romulus_]

We're nearing the pinnacle of Porsche's take on the mid-engined internal combustion automobile. Very likely that they'll introduce electric versions next time around, so this will go down as a return to form and classic after the 718 turbo 4 cylinder.

[@doctoboy210]

hi bro could the boxster 718 gts come with auto pdk transmission

[@snowboardinpassout]

Brilliant review as usual. Vielen dank.

[@autogefuehl]

🙏

[@chrispyy606060606]

Amazing review. Is there a mode where it will not go into 3 cylinder active fuel management? (Sport or similar?)

[@autogefuehl]

thanks! I am pretty sure it wont in Sport modes

[@eddiejorden4182]

Where is Mark Webber's KZbin channel

[@67Bigsby]

Great work is always!!!

[@sampamba517]

718 Cayman GTS 4.0, I think may not be very different to drive from a 981 Cayman S, cause the platform hasn't changed, what do you think Thomas? We will not get GTS 4.0 here in India, so no pressure to upgrade ;)

[@autogefuehl]

Yeah indeed its just a facelift basically

[@marksummers463]

What about snap oversteer?

[@BillLee3]

OK, so I have a deposit on a Boxster GTS 4.0 for delivery in March 2021. I had a 2006 Corvette Z51 I purchased new but sold about 6 years ago due to the manual transmission being so miserable in Atlanta traffic. So, I'm definitely getting the PDK. But, should I go for the 10mm drop or 20mm drop? I am mostly buying it because it's a go-cart for the street and it is effectively a tricked out convertible replacement for both my old 'Vette and a 2011 Harley RoadGlide I recently sold. However, I will likely track the car at most a total of 2-5 times during the 10+ years I'll own it. Instead, it will be a car to do errands in and enjoy driving in the mountains on weekends. I'd love for someone who's driven both to let me know which should I get for making the car enjoyable for the type driving I'll actually do. I did hear in a different video that the 10mm/20mm drop is a major difference, but I don't know if that means it's a LOT rougher and only a little more precise or a LOT less precise and only a tiny bit rougher....

[@horusosiris5488]

Thank You Thomas for this wonderful review, finally a 6 cylinder NA engine, but yeah very expensive, waiting for the PDK version, and yeah Boxster (cabrio) 4 life :D

[@josem.c.4575]

Hello! First of all, sorry for my English which is very bad (Google translator). I currently own a Boxster 981 2.7 and have ordered a GTS 4.0 due for delivery in early August, but I am in time to change something in its configuration and I want to ask you a question. I think that at the Porsche presentation in Estoril there were Boxsters with PASM suspension of -10 mm (normal) and -20 mm (sport). Do you remember what suspension the GTS red carmine was wearing in the race? I have a question with which suspension to choose, I will not take the car to circuits and its use will be touristy. I make long trips and I like to discover the regions leaving the big itineraries and sometimes taking small secondary roads and perhaps my preferred option should be the -10 mm one but I am afraid that the car may lose character. Will the 20mm be very uncomfortable? Another thing that worries me is that with the car so low it can rub against speed bumps and access ramps to garages. I would like to know your opinion. Can you help me? Thank you!

[@autogefuehl]

Hey! Always take the higher suspension. Makes no sense in every day driving to lower it even more.

[@josem.c.4575]

@@autogefuehl Thank you very much for the quick response !

[@petervanvloten5473]

Great review Thomas! Thanks. Can't decide which is best. 718 GTS 4.0 (maybe the best sports car set up) or 911 S / 4S (likely the most iconic sports car). And then there is the price.

[@autogefuehl]

Thanks Peter! See here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bWnSmn2Be6mogpI

[@henryzhang9915]

I just don't want to sell my NA M3, now I'm watching this.

[@marcfd3756]

Keep the M3 and buy this. :-)

[@tjarsun]

25:27 wow that overtaking ability makes it so effortless!

[@ivanh9801]

hi, how does this the 718 cayman 4.0 GTS compare to the GT4?

[@autogefuehl]

Compare it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XXlapjfJuqhsk

[@JimBob_1975]

Great car and great review but can't see why the front bumper is designed to catch dead leaves and corrode the radiators as they decompose... a problem for later owners I guess

[@autogefuehl]

good point

[@thejohnnerparty]

Really great review. A big thumbs up. ;-)

[@autogefuehl]

Thanks 🙏

[@randomhawks3232]

Thomas - curious how tall you are with relation to the three different seats you tried. If you were purchasing the 718 GT Spyder, which seat would you personally spec?

[@autogefuehl]

I'd the the normal Convertible for better roof opening m8. And seats either base seats or the 1st bucket seat as I said. But probably it is always better to stick with the base seat

[@nateisright]

Mark Webber, you’re a class act. Any chance we will see you racing at Leadville?

[@TiexinGuo]

What is the color of the cayman? Normal red? (indisch rot/guard red) or carmine red? Thanks.

[@autogefuehl]

Carmine

[@TiexinGuo]

@@autogefuehl Thanks very much. Is there a video of the Indishrot? I'm torned between these two reds...

[@flyinghedgehog3833]

Put double wishbone front end please!

[@neilpatching7443]

4 cylinder GTS is no longer available here in Australia

[@autogefuehl]

as I said 6 cyl will replace

[@miket570]

Not sure if the sound and response is worth the extra 50k however, can't deny this is a great car and I'm happy it exists. If it were my money a remapped Cayman T with aftermarket exhaust system would be perfect - remove those artificial pops and bangs. Pure engine noise of a flat-4 is great and carries a subtle unique tone, not sure why Porsche decided to make it sound like an obnoxious hot hatch.

[@laughingman3539]

First review of the new NA 6 cilinder 718. And what is the very first thing we see after the introduction? ... A nice view of the back so we can enjoy the exhaust Sound!

[@autogefuehl]

?

[@mannysingh6618]

Did you review the 981 Boxster S? I could not find it.

[@autogefuehl]

This comes close: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooi1qHemer6KY9k

[@mannysingh6618]

@@autogefuehl thanks

[@wanlmeddoc2000]

Very nice review indeed! But if we think about this, if new 4.0 NA6C engine is a "Baby GT3", then the old 2.5L 4C engine, would be a "Baby GT2RS"! Right? So, it really just come down, to whether you like GT3's high RPM, or GT2RS's performance and everyday usability. After all, they are all great cars. What do you think?