Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 vs 718 Spyder FULL REVIEW comparison - the six-cylinders return!

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[@johncollymore1697]

Excellent Review AJ, and you illustrated the 718 really well - well done. You were lucky you had such good weather at Knockhill, and on the B934 to Dunning Glen and Dunning! On the public road, that car can easily exceed the speed limit in 2nd - so you only need the first two gears! Great stuff - great video - many thanks.

[@autogefuehl]

always a pleasure to read from u

[@gingerfilm_latin]

I can’t understand all the dislike for your video. You are giving so much serious explanations about the background of the technic and the feeling while you driving this famous cars. I ordered and can’t wait to drive it by myself😎☀️🤙

[@autogefuehl]

Thank you so much! Please keep supporting us :)

[@clu4u]

Did you get your car? I’m looking at a 2016 Spyder!

[@gingerfilm_latin]

@@clu4u yes, I got him. I hope you get a good car.

[@JBOsurf]

"Angry Vacuum cleaner" -That comment, in front of a Porsche employee, was fantastic!

[@autogefuehl]

=)

[@neilpatching7443]

Have really been waiting for this thank for such a comprehensive review. Really enjoyed it 👍👍

[@autogefuehl]

thanks Neil =)

[@Main88pizzapub]

Awesome an informative. I have ordered my Spyder without seeing it in real life lol 😆. Im so excited although I'm having to wait until the 2022 model production run. Can't sleep now will watch another 100 times

[@eddiebaena806]

Ahhh the video I've been waiting for👍😍

[@Andyuk911]

you missed mine then, LOL

[@eddiebaena806]

@@Andyuk911 awhh sorry :(

[@eddiebaena806]

@@Andyuk911 it's ok I subbed

[@ZDY66666]

I love the cayman, and especially the GT4. *But* im really not in agreement with some of the reviews. *For me, the biggest value of this car is a simple fact that it is being sold again* rather than how much better the car got, because enjoyment speaking, it did not get better for the following reasons: *The meh/bad (ok bad is way too strong of a word):* 1. the engine DOES NOT feel special at all. Its a bored and stroked up 4.0L from the 3.0L carrera. It DOES NOT sound much better than say even a 981 GTS or a 981 GT4. It however, DOES SOUND VERY GOOD in our current generation of past 2 years, where everything has particle filters and terrible sounding engines. Whereas the 4L in the GT3s sound special. Ofc, they had to do this to keep production costs lower, price lower, and keep Caymans below the 911 which is understandable. 2. All lot of the stuff being boasted in these reviews are NOT unique to the GT4, and are often times common Porsche options. 3.THe car's chassis is good, but stilll practically the same thing from 2013. The suspension setup and GT3 front end is really the star here and obviously makes a significant difference. 4. All this praise about balance, feeling nature, being telepathic to drive etc, applies to 981 as well, and most of 718 (other than PDK being a little strange with 718 compared to 991 and 981, but this car is manual anyways so PDK shouldn't be compared). 5. *still has the terrible 981gt4 gear ratio*. Really locks the car's performance down... *The good:* -its being sold again and not in limited quantity (or at least a promise of a quantity that will supposedly satisfy the market). Hurray! NO more allocation wars! Depreciation should be normal (well. for a GT car). -despite reusing most of what the 2013 base car is, its *still an INCREDIBLE car* The car is ahead of its time and can remain competitive in the current market. -still extremely enjoyable, just not by an amount that people hype it up to be.

[@FaithHopeLove77]

I have the 718 '18. Always call it seven one eight. Can't wait to test drive the GT4 though I have no idea why I need +400HP LOL. All the electronics are nice but I often turn them off to experience the awesome 718's handling, speed, and sound.

[@autogefuehl]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@sundershanmugam4269]

sound? u mean noise:)

[@58icarus]

Number of people who will buy a 718 GT4 and let it start-stop while running on three cylinders: ZERO.

[@gingerfilm_latin]

Very nice review, i love it!

[@autogefuehl]

thanks =)

[@hikingjoe4752]

I’ve been looking into the car (especially GT4) since it first officially got revealed. Love it so much. And i really want to suck up all the information about it and want to know and see always more about it. A little bit like an addiction I just wanna see more of it. And then there was this near one hour video I found from you guys.Thanks guys really very good review lots of information and also very cool to see the actual engine half cut up haven’t seen that one yet. Gave a thumbs up which you definitely deserved.

[@autogefuehl]

welcome !!

[@williamc9578]

This is the engine the Cayman 718 needed. With Cylinder-bank disabling, and Stop-Start it would deliver materially lower CO2 emissions than going to the in-line 4 Turbo (which when the turbo kicks-in above 2500rpm, drinks petrol and negates any emission benefit of going to a 4-cyl). What Prosche need to do is to put this into the entry-level Cayman and the Cayman S. The GT4 is a track-focused car, and is a little bit more hardcore (stiffer suspension, big rear wing, 20in wheels, manual only). Not many will drive it as a daily (although you can). So Porsche, please put this 6-cyl NA engine into the Cayman S. It will make the 718 (ok, call it something else), the car it has always needed to be.

[@rajchoudhury5130]

YES AJ brilliant video. I don't think Lewis Hamilton needs to worry

[@griphy]

Great review

[@autogefuehl]

🙏🙏

[@razorworks111]

Perhaps I need to hear one of each in person, but the sound in the 718 variants leave much to be desired over the 981. Otherwise, both look fantastic.

[@kimchee411]

@TCaad10 The 991 GT3 engine was derived from the 9A1 in the Carrera and 981, so I don't see how an NA 9A2 with 33% larger displacement is any less of a GT engine.

[@alexkim2337]

Both are shit engines anyways. Not the real race engine from 991.2 gt3

[@gsthree9534]

@@alexkim2337 - total shit. All are complete garbage cars. Porsche makes these for all the assholes who dont have the balls or the cash to drive the real thing.

[@V1RT8]

GS Three and for stating such a BS I guess you are driving a Ford 150 pick up

[@schunkelperser1794]

Fine review!

[@autogefuehl]

👌

[@awomangala9759]

This is the best test drive 🚗 for the Porsche GT4 variants. Well done. (It would have been good to have MPH figures also.)

[@autogefuehl]

😊 thanks!

[@vasantos-re4hb]

Actually, the Cayman is one of the easiest cars to work on. The parcel shelf panel and seat panels give pretty wide access to the engine.

[@woodypwx]

A 992 Carrera T with this engine would be awesome!

[@rathjens]

A shame they could not put a more appropriate gear ratio into the Spyder. The gears are too long for the road. Might make sense for the race track in the GT4 but not for the cruise on the weekend... Reving out second gear on public roads and your are so much above speed limit.... and in trouble!!!

[@gsthree9534]

The gear ratio is fine. If you want to shift all the time get a miata.

[@kimchee411]

I'm very excited about this car, but kind of disappointed by the sound, at least from videos. I was hoping it would get closer to that glorious wail of the GT3 since it shares the same bore and stroke and revs out to 8k, but it actually seems to have gone backwards a bit towards the 718 boxer-4 growl from the 3.8 in the 981 GT4. I hope the US version without particular filters rectifies some of that.

[@ahmed9399]

How was the launch (with/out launch control)? Would you say it launches as good as the previous Carrera S? The 718 S and GTS has this annoying turbo lag noticeable during launching which just kills the fun and the only way to minimise it (not eliminate it) is to activate launch control.

[@johnnewman8412]

I thought this was a fantastic review, and a refreshing change from so many reviews that focus on performance numbers and capabilities that will be irrelevant to 99% of buyers 99% of the time. I fell in love with the 718 Spyder at first sight, and now, thanks to your excellent review I have a real sense of what it's like to drive and also what it would be like to live with on a daily basis. Great work, thank you :-)

[@autogefuehl]

Thanks John!!

[@ThePcc143]

Could we have some more film of the gentian blue one please ? Great report and quality filming !

[@fkporsche1]

Very angry vacuum!? That sounds about right. Great review. I am planning to order a GT4. Great information. Btw, is Thomas still working with you guys ? 🦅🦅🇺🇸 cheers

[@autogefuehl]

Sure check our channel m8 :)

[@haleohanamalama2967]

Man~ you’re a walking porsche dictionary! 👏👏👏👍

[@autogefuehl]

😎

[@simonward5833]

The Spyder’s profile is much more elegant than the Cayman/GT4. The Cayman always looks a little “stubby” - it’s roofline needs to be 40-50mm lower, which I know would be very difficult to achieve. Great cars, though. I’d be happy to have either of them in my garage.

[@bartoski-ag]

28:30 Mr Wikipedia is showing off now... hahaha didn't know the Porsche guy was asking questions :-P

[@autogefuehl]

AJ knows his shit. He has a engineering degree.

[@mich6425]

Good review...

[@autogefuehl]

Cheers!

[@behindthen0thing]

Nice comment...

[@GadgetMart]

718 spyder for me Drop top adds another dimension

[@armandoloureiro7158]

I was in 2 minds. Carrera S with pdk or this. I think you just convinced me. The only issue for me is the roof. Will it end up being my hate for it.

[@hullabeano1108]

Did you reference 'G3' at the end as in the Joe Satriani supergroup, or had you meant GT3?!

[@behindthen0thing]

Haha

[@AdityaJayaram]

G3 ;) glad someone got the reference

[@waltvancourt5052]

Love my chalk 718 GTS pdk. Maybe when all the hoopla is gone.

[@1ROCKY89]

Walt Van Court me too brother. I’m sporting chalk interior and graphite blue interior and exterior. Glad I got it. This spyder is awesome for what it is too. Actually the spyder would make for a nice Weekender ha.

[@aceofspades6667]

C8 stingray $60k > GT4 $100k C8 Stingray z51 $70k > 911 base $120k Porsche is terrified

[@aceofspades6667]

@@firstbloood1 lol the C8 is going to own Porsche in every performance aspect possible.

[@tommy516]

Ace of Spades just not in quality and style. There is no comparing the build quality of a Porsche and a Corvette.

[@58icarus]

"Porsche is terrified". No, that would be the people who looked in the C8's driver-side window and saw the interior.

[@aceofspades6667]

@@tommy516 "Performance Aspect"

[@theprepperrevelator]

Ace of Spades I think the new corvette will be a terrific car, but having said that it doesn’t compare to a GT3 or GT3RS. Time will tell when the new ZO6 and ZR1 arrive but it still would not change my mind my next cat will be a GT3. Porsche quality and longevity is far superior to that of Chevy just look at resale values. I promise you no one at Porsche is concerned in the slightest. Rick

[@neiljoseph904]

Great review, AJ. I agree with your choice - Spyder all the way! Well done to you and your team 👍🏽

[@autogefuehl]

thanks Neil !

[@Harpreet06]

Don't really like that Spyder's soft top roof being manual. I'd get the Cayman GT4 in a daily driver build but not sure about the gearing. I wonder if the next gen Cayman will have 6 cylinder engines.

[@arr0gant1]

If you really want a convertible but are a purist, this is the only way to go.

[@Harpreet06]

@@arr0gant1 Yes that's true but it didn't look good when he put the roof up in my opinion.

[@smiler921]

Careful on showing the speed, the UK fuzz have caught a KZbinr based on working out speed past landmarks, so don’t make it easy for them! Good review

[@autogefuehl]

cheers!

[@JoeJacksonGT3]

As a current 991.1 GTS manual owner, I'm hesitant about upgrading to the GT4, mostly due to the gearing. There isn't enough torque being produced to justify the ratios. These cars aren't slow, but I've driven a 981 GT4 on a track many times, it works there and only there. If you want to go through the mountains with these, you're 2nd hear mostly and have no pull out of the corners. It's a shame that Porsche can't produce more tq from a 4.0l these days.

[@RtasVadumeeKostas]

If you are in the us, sharkwerks does shorter ratios for the gt4. They did it for the previous model so I guess they'll do it for this too

[@JoeJacksonGT3]

@@RtasVadumeeKostas Yeah, I heard that they can do that. I'm only 230 miles from them. It's tempting, for sure...

[@billbligh4547]

Really good review. Did you pick up on whether Porsche will be bringing out a GTS/S 718 with the Flat 6? The wing and lack of sound insulation make the GT4an impractical daily driver - at least for me.

[@autogefuehl]

thanks! So far the line up is complete now afaik

[@billbligh4547]

Thx. Found rumours of a GT4 Touring...

[@JingoLoBa57]

Why don’t they make clip in clip out seats - track vs road, and those who want can have both sets in their garage...

[@TXTundra-ex8bw]

i'm saving my money now for the cpo spyder lol

[@fkporsche1]

Lol.. haha.ha. Wow! Thomas got a pretty good tan on him. Mini Thomas! Thomas from another mother! 🦅🦅🇺🇸

[@jlo6388]

I’d get the Spyder in Pdk

[@geogsi88]

Still enormous long gearing. 2nd gear at 8000rpm is 88 mph or 141 kmh, 3rd almost 190kmh, 4th 240kmh. Ruins promising engine, when you must overtake in 1st gear some ordinary TDI engined car, or 1.0 petrol turbo

[@autogefuehl]

Good point, u could see that long gearing at the racetrack especially. Meant to be driven redline only, but unrealistic for day to day customers

[@johnnewman8412]

@@autogefuehl The tall gearing is a necessary compromise in order to meet emissions regs. If tall gears are the price I have to pay for a naturally aspirated flat six with an honest to goodness stick shift, sign me up.

[@mms8393]

Excellent review video. However, I would disagree about the carbon seats in the GT4. I find them quite comfortable and from a resale perspective I wouldn't buy the GT4 without them.

[@autogefuehl]

Cheers!

[@mms8393]

@@autogefuehl 👍

[@JingoLoBa57]

What does an angry vacuum cleaner sound like? Lol! Cute as...🦅

[@hikingjoe4752]

28:41 there on the left is walter Röhrl

[@autogefuehl]

good observation :)

[@dadinjo5]

long live the manual and naturally aspirated engines,great car but i think the sound is rather muted when compared 2 others GTs so need 2 update the exhaust system/remove some shit from it 2 really scream

[@andrelima5124]

Why do I think the Spyder does not only looks better but more agressive than the GT4? ( again I'm talking about looks ).

[@Alby911]

Dude they're virtually the same car; one has a fixed roof and a wing.

[@andrelima5124]

@@Alby911 I know that but....there's something about the stance on the spyder man....maybe it looks cleaner, I don't know, I'm just saying.

[@arr0gant1]

@@andrelima5124totally agree

[@gsthree9534]

Because it's a convertible with speedster humps.

[@Fluterra]

You did a better job on the interior review.

[@stefandominitzki]

The Empire Strikes Back.

[@dissol]

“Rotates around its vertical axis” do you mean “turn”??

[@Fluterra]

Any word on whether or not the particulate filters will be on N. American cars? I heard no...

[@autogefuehl]

Probably they wont get them

[@dougmaverick3287]

Please don't tell me the GT4 has a harsh Ride Like the Focus RS. I had a focusRS and had to get rid of it because it was way too stiff I'm hoping the GT4 is not even close to that can you comment on that?

[@autogefuehl]

Rather get this then: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6utoJKde9mlpqc

[@iFumoffu]

Hey Porsche... I know this is nitpicking... I mean hey, I’m glad that Porsche still making manual sports car and hey sticking with NA is awesome. But what’s the point of a manual and a free high revving engine if you are literally driving with 3rd gear 90% of the time... at least give us some shorter gearing in an “extra option” maybe attached to “club sport” or something... this 911 protectionism is getting really stale now.

[@GTUniverseOfficial]

Both are incredible cars, but I'll take the 718 Cayman GT4 with that gorgeous wing any day!

[@jeetsingh3393]

Which one is awd and which one is rear wheel drive

[@autogefuehl]

There was never and will never be a 718 with AWD

[@xz0n1g1]

and when are we going to get a review of the car and not a description. For example here we have 2 buttons and here is the ash tray with a cig. lighter.. and the inside is black. How is that useful?

[@slaWterCH]

GT Silver is just unbeatable on those cars 🤤 And finally, the mid-engined range is back alive!

[@whatevernevermind5960]

Currently the best car Porsche makes.

[@terrybilly9967]

s n The 991.1 GT3RS is Not much faster on the nordschleife! With pdk the GT4 is faster with less Power

[@hughnorman5869]

Can you get the GT4 without the big wing?

[@gsthree9534]

No.

[@gaycha6589]

Silver Spyder in that spec. Mmmmmmm

[@Bli8]

29:47 "flat v12"???????????????????

[@arhimede360]

At 1490 is ~150kg plus than ideal for the size

[@GadgetMart]

Typical fat German car I do love the 718 spyder however

[@crabapple1974]

It has not gained much weight, but the way weight is reported has changed in the EU. Apparently only up 30kg from last model.

[@JingoLoBa57]

Why don’t you guys release both hands and use wireless collar mics...? Esp for these vehicle reviews where you would like that flexibility

[@autogefuehl]

If you take a look at our driving parts of the reviews, you see that we of course have clip-on microphones. However there are several good reasons to use the handheld microphone very often, we do that intentionally. See more details here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2nQk6qbr8mSjLs

[@JingoLoBa57]

I don’t think there’s anything you do that is ...unintentional. That said I have to say I prefer my presenter be modern rather than old school. YMMV, and obviously does lol. I’ll take a look in due course at your link provided. I only discovered your channel yesterday...

[@autogefuehl]

Welcome!

[@JingoLoBa57]

Autogefühl thanks have been awoken to the 718 that is drool worthy. Good fun whilst quarantined by my government in an hotel of their choosing for 14 days...

[@JingoLoBa57]

Autogefühl thanks watched replied...😉

[@Fluterra]

Not a great review. You missed many of the key benefits: you mentioned it has PASM, which every Porsche sports car has - but not that it has a fully adjustable GT3 suspension. The German presenter (sorry, I forgot his name) is much more detail oriented.

[@futurehofer1564]

So we really not calling it Boxster anymore?? 😔

[@autogefuehl]

Just this very special version

[@fkporsche1]

Thomas twin brother lol. A brother from another mother 🦅🦅🇺🇸

[@autogefuehl]

lol =)

[@mr.boonyaritsuthammarit9093]

good

[@ziggyfreud5357]

It can keep up with the RS if the driver of the RS lets you !

[@overspecced]

Sounds like something an rs owner would say.

[@ziggyfreud5357]

@@overspecced Or can't drive it - which is not infrequently the case :)

[@QuitMC]

No leather option is available, if you don’t option leather option. Lol

[@autogefuehl]

He is right. All seats contain animal parts, even if u have alcantara or fabric in the middle

[@QuitMC]

I forgot the seats. 😉

[@chuchum3]

FYI The white GT4 doe NOT have LED headlights. A $100k+ with 80's HID headlights?! just WOW

[@Xynteon]

It has bi xenon headlights as standard the led headlights are an option. You call yourself Porscheguy? Lmao...

[@chuchum3]

@@Xynteon Your "Bi-Xenon" is HID. High Intensity Discharged headlights which is old tech that started in the 80s well 90s but they are ancient. I have owned 28 Porsche cars including 2 currently so yeah, i called myself Porscheguy and you should stick with your Acura

[@Xynteon]

@@chuchum3 Didn't say it wasn't HID the point is why are you suprised that Porsche sells it as an option because they're notorious for selling everything as an option instead of standard. Porsche is still my favorite car manufacturer though. Btw i don't own an acura RLX i'm european, it's just an old username which stood for relax so take a chill pill and do that.

[@chuchum3]

@@Xynteon I am surprised because it's 2019 and it's a $100k car just as I have stated. Perhaps you should read and comprehend before you make a smart ass comment

[@gsthree9534]

@@chuchum3 - aren't you so fancy guy.

[@hikingjoe4752]

Why the name Autogefühl? Are you guys german but make basically international videos in english? Or what’s the reason behind the name I’m confused😂

[@autogefuehl]

translated car feeling. Was always supposed to be a German brand, like BMW and Porsche also sell vehicles in the US

[@richardvanbreemen9065]

Is it just me or does the first gen GT4 sound better?

[@cyclepath55555]

The 1st gen didn't have particulate filters

[@gsthree9534]

Agree the 981 version sounds much better.

[@sinoperture]

Hmmm 981 versions sound better......

[@steveokinevo887]

always the same comment about the sound you have nothing else to say

[@QuietStormX]

I'm tired of all these Drop tops BS, they are stiffer because of the bracing for them dummy so it does feel stiffer? 😠🤬😡

[@RogueMI6]

What's the deal with no leather option? Are you a Vegan?

[@autogefuehl]

Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. As a start, please tune in to what the animal leather industry tried to do here with our channel: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIHCdKmCocZ5oqs In general, depending on the animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat would be the reason no.1 in other cases, the hide remains one of the most profitable body parts. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you accept it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and destroys the environment, you make them more profitable. Also, if you turn the argument around "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize how biased the argument is. After all, would you care for which exact body part you would be murdered? Or imagine someone robs you on the street and beats you to death - would it matter to you if it was for your Smartphone or for your purse? The animal agriculture industry occupies 2/3 of all farm land on this planet which cannot be used for direct human nutrition then. That is extremely inefficient. The no.1 cause for deforestation is the animal industry. It is also one of the biggest contributor to climate change. The amount of land, resources, energy and water being used is beyond imagination. For the alternative, you can either use artificial fabrics which can be made from recyclables (we have already shown a lot of vehicles that use great fabric seats from PET-bottles etc.) or more and more also from plant-based materials (like Pinatex). And even if you would create a seat completely with petroleum without a recycling share, the amount of oil being used for that is nothing in comparing just to once fueling up your car. In practical reasons, fabric or microfibre seats are just more useful. You do not sweat in summer and it is not cold in winter. And if you want the slick look or something to wipe clean easier, that is possible with animal free leatherette. Using animal skin on seats is a major issue of animal rights, human rights - and after all it is just common sense what is better both for the environment and just more practical and more luxurious for the customer. We cannot change what we have bought in the past (that also counts for ourselves of course!), but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future.

[@L110508]

Angry vacuum cleaner

[@tummiehond9432]

Its an Audi and probably the TT hence the big tunnel fo the gear box that in a front drive car is located behind the motor. If you know there is a 928 944 and 968 that have front wheel drives it is kind of silly!

[@zookeeper4230]

Should have a German reviewing these.

[@mehmetaoz]

👍👏👏👏

[@nateisright]

Neun elf, sieben siebzehn. Verstehen sie?

[@tedwijaya1]

rich ppl still drive manual?

[@gsthree9534]

Rich people do whatever the fuck they want, bro.

[@aly0072]

Why does this dude look so small compared to the car!

[@Fluterra]

It can deactivate half the cylinders!? WRONG. What are you smoking, bro?!

[@autogefuehl]

Watch the engine part with the engineer, bro.

[@Fluterra]

Autogefühl Ok, my apologies!

[@autogefuehl]

@@Fluterra =)

[@kyongkim5162]

where is Thomas???

[@autogefuehl]

Here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJacYYmarciDnqs

[@fragu123]

...I like this presenter a lot more to be honest!

[@sadie63]

Plastic oil pan ??? shake your head.

[@Avrelivs_Gold]

they know what they're doing

[@sadie63]

@@Avrelivs_Gold Time will tell.

[@lensoprezole5322]

2019 MX-5 is a better sports car for the road. Period.

[@Dudsy907]

Better value maybe but in terms of performance there is a clear difference.

[@lensoprezole5322]

@@Dudsy907 there is a clear difference in performance ? Wow you're a genius to know that. And is it a performance to pay 98 000 euros to use only the first two gears on the road ? Second gear on the 718 Spyder goes up to 140 km/h when hitting the red line. So maybe you wish to lose your driving licence ?

[@zarbon700]

@@lensoprezole5322 You're correct. Porsche purposely handicaps the GT4 with long gear ratios in order to keep it from being too competitive with the GT3. This ruins the driving experience of the GT4. That's way the Miata is way more fun to drive than the GT4.

[@zarbon700]

@Jonathan Bowen depending on the type of track, long gear ratios can actually make you slower and makes it harder for a driver to control exactly how they want to deliver the torque.

[@lensoprezole5322]

@Jonathan Bowen all porsches are track cars only if you want to shift at the red line with all the gears. In fact all cars making more than 200 hp. Thats why the miata is the answer for those who wants to use their gear lever on the road.

[@petes283]

Man, why so much talking and repeating the same things? You should push a bit more and let that F6 do the talking, at least for 1 lap and some part of the countryside drive. You are tiring the viewer and talking over that glorious F6 wail - don't take it personally I'm just trying to help make your content better.

[@rainzoro]

Pete S: Those are for POV videos which are meant to communicate with engine sound. This is a review video meant to communicate verbally.

[@petes283]

@@rainzoro I get it but 50 mins of constant talking is unbearable.

[@Avrelivs_Gold]

1500 kg is way too much for a spyder all that leather is like 200 kg (+insulation) and the wheels are too big they could save 300 kgs but the owners are just old fat bald rich men that care about comfort but want to look cool

[@fragu123]

RVINDVNCE ...bullshit!

[@sinoperture]

I own a 981 Spyder. They take all the sound insulation out. But these new ones are much heavier.....

[@Maximumrandom69]

Princess Peach Yeah much heavier 😂😂 no the are not, only 30kg’s - get your information right

[@Avrelivs_Gold]

@@Maximumrandom69 30kg is a heavy bag or a person, try to lift it

[@Avrelivs_Gold]

@@fragu123 your argument is invalid