Porsche 912: Here’s Why You Should Want One.

[@mezger918]

A Porsche longhood is a Porsche longhood. Cracks me up to see the Porscheratti complain about the video title and use of words. He is not selling the car or charging admission. Who really cares what the title of the video is, what badge, engine, etc is in the car. Main thing is Patrick liked it enough to buy it and and I’m quite certain is enjoying the drive. 100% Porsche

[@86BBUB]

That's just dumb. WTF is a "longhood" - LOL. It's not what the the title suggests - period, full stop, end of storey. It's a hot rod; not a 912. Cool car? - yes. 912? - no.

[@Rennthusiast]

It came from the factory as a 912. Badging on the deck lid is a 912. Says 912 on the dash…all from the factory. Technically you’re wrong 😄

[@86BBUB]

The only substantive difference between a 911 and a 912 is the engine. Once you put a 911 engine in a 912 you have (for all practical purposes) a 911. A better title would be "Porsche 911: Here's Why You Should Want One". 🙂 In any case cool car - and I do like your channel. 👍@@Rennthusiast

[@Rennthusiast]

@@86BBUB thank you sir! Appreciate your watching!

[@gregorystefanek5604]

@@86BBUBlol take a chill pill, it’s a swapped 912

[@grumpy9478]

a 912 w/ a 2.2 S motor is not a 912... it's a 911 conversion.

[@josephlin7556]

Agreed, should've called it a 912-6 or simply a 911 conversion.

[@horatiotimewaster5755]

To me, an original 912 would be more desirable because of the linkage to the 356. That said, this examole is a very nice little car (love the yellow).

[@Rennthusiast]

I don’t know…it says 912 on the rear deck lid and 912 on the dash. If it were a 911 it would have left the factory as a 911 🤔😄

[@GTE_Channel]

It does take away the charm of what a 912 is. Still a nice car tho.

[@mrseaweed5587]

if it has a 6cyl its a retro mod. Very cool!!!! love the sound. MY 912 needs two more cyclinders...

[@all-starbikeshopquailcorne8811]

Hi Will, A true 912 has a different drive experiance than this 911 conversion. I have 2 1966 4 cylinder "big bore" 1720cc motors. 105HP. They are lighter by maybe 150 pounds in the butt of the car and they do handle different. If you want a "true" 912 experience you should review a real 912. 😁Operators are standing by.

[@thomasforinger3488]

Having a 120 HP SWB1968 myself, love it. Signal Green. Built at Porsche, not Karmann.. always welcome for a Review...🎉

[@grantroberts4231]

my man spends 8 minutes talmbout how cool 912s are and then reveals it’s a 6-swap. very cool car tho. way cooler than that F*rr*ri.

[@MW-uy3np]

Funny thing is though. Throw the original engjne back in it and all of a sudden you dont love it as much

[@AnakNi_Mina]

@@MW-uy3npAgree 110%

[@Cos27O]

Cheap? Maybe 10 years ago. Anything air cooled is unobtainable for the majority of enthusiasts now. I’ve decided to give up and just get an early 986.

[@MW-uy3np]

It’s not a 912 anymore. You love this 912 due to its 911 engine. Flat Six is 911

[@studid55]

Yes.... Its like saying you love broccoli, but only when served with a side of steak

[@MW-uy3np]

@@studid55 lol great analogy

[@keepyourbilsteins]

Was stoked to see the 912 in the thumbnail, but a few seconds in when filmed from the outside, well there goes that sentiment. James just got one and I think he's picking it up on the west coast during Luft. That may be a better candidate to feature. SWB 4 cylinder car. No hate for this beautiful '69 911 though. Just wish it were an actual 912.

[@geoffrobinson7293]

The "Big Bore" kit made a big difference? From 95 hp to 100 hp? The real difference a 912 can out perform a 911T is the lower weight of the engine. Having said that, as a 912 owner, the car is a blast to drive. No it is not a 911S or a 930, but it is a fun driver. I drove mine just about daily until I moved overseas. I still own it after 37 years. Other sports cars have come and gone. The 912 is worth keeping. If that does not make a point, I don't know what does.

[@johnny_bravo9990]

What if I make an offer you can't refuse

[@Rennthusiast]

@johnnybravo9990 he sold the car already.

[@petercavanaugh6510]

as an owner of a 70 911 E w/2.2 I love the engine in this car. Wow that must be a blast! Very cool car but I also agree this video is NOT about na 912!

[@ArrowheadGarage]

Love my 1967 912 Coupe with a 1976 912E Type 4 2.0 engine!

[@rogerjohnson2396]

Perfect upgrade! 912 to 912E! DURABLE!

[@SF_Native]

Right on time for Saturday morning cardio session. Thanks Will

[@charlesrockwell3923]

Beware a 912 can easily cost more to maintain than a 911. The engine is somewhat overstressed and the lifespan is fairly short on the second rebuild. In hot weather the engine simply runs too hot. When rebuilding the engine it is not uncommon to have to replace EVERYTHING. The case, the crank, the cylinders, the cam, and the heads. You can rebuild these engines once, but not twice. According to the four cylinder guru Harry Pellow, these engines need rebuilds before 70k creeps up on the odometer. I used to work on these cars professionally and he was not wrong. The 911 is a more robust engine with a much better cooling and oiling system. I like the handling of the 912 which has fantastic steering feel and does not seem subject to the snap oversteer of the early 911's, which quite frankly scares me. However the 911 is a better bet for the long term owner when considering cost of ownership.

[@josephlin7556]

If it does not have a 616 4 cylinder motor in the back, it is not a 912. and the owner wants to replace the 901 transmission with a 915? even the 2.2s have dogleg transmissions... bottom line, this is not a 912, if its not a 4 cylinder+ dogleg 5 speed or a 4 speed than its a complete different driving experience.

[@rodgraff1782]

Putting a 915 gearbox in this would be a mistake in my opinion.

[@josephlin7556]

agreed. tottally different driving experience in a dog-leg setting@@rodgraff1782

[@studid55]

3:36 - people who are "ashamed" of the 912 badge are tripping. 99% of people don't know and those 1% love everything regardless of what they say!

[@oellasawandtool]

Cool Car! When I was his age I swapped a 911T motor into my 1968 912, let my friend drive it around a corner, we went flying into the bank. and nearly totaled it. My perspective today looking back at my younger self .. be careful who you let drive a rear engine car. 2. keep the car original.

[@avioncamper]

If that's a 1966 model, I'm a 66 model too? 57 on the 29th. I like the shade of yellow.

[@evank.4715]

I’m curious as to what wheels are on the silver G body in the background at 4:23. They look nice.

[@panzer-head]

600 miles? Heck, that's a good weekend in my '66 911.

[@AnakNi_Mina]

You had me hella intrigued until we saw what was underneath the decklid. Smh

[@danmeifert2469]

A '67 yellow 912 was my first Porsche. It was only 12 years old then & I did enjoy it. Fuchs have always been my wheel of choice.I would do a motor swap if needed.

[@thebeardsgarage]

Yeah the 912 ship sailed about two years ago for mere mortals.

[@m0d.]

Ever since watching the actor Robert Redford driving the Irish green 912 into the CIA HQ while handling spy phone calls in the 2001 film "Spy Game"... that sold me on the 912. Even has the oh-so-good door shut sound .. at the end of the movie.

[@johnford5470]

@thepatinagroup. Can you provide some info / set up on the G-Body in the background. The "mini-lite" look is a great. I'd like to learn more about that setup. Aero mirrors look good as well.

[@xavierortiz2690]

I remember looking for a 70 Dodge Challenger or 90's 300zx here in Montana about 15 years ago, came across a red 912 for sale for 6500 or 8500.l didn't know what made a 912 different from a 911, anyways i passed on it, l started looking at them on line and watching them go up in price literally by the week, it quickly becomes my favorite Porsche, and still kick myself for not buying it

[@bryandickerson5365]

“Nobody really cared about ‘em”…hey that’s me, Mr Nobody!. Ouch, I wasn’t expecting that - after explaining why 912s with their affordable and easily modded 4 cylinder are “actually interesting” we find out that this beauty has had a flat-6 swap! I fell in love with the blue 911 with Group4(?) wheels when it was on BaT and this beautiful yellow 912/6 scratches a similar itch.

[@verdict1163]

Not a single mention of the weight distribution, which is the main appeal of the 912? The weight distribution is better in the 912 than in the 911 - it's something like 45:55, whereas the 911 is closer to 40:60, and with the weight higher up. The 912 handles significantly better at the limit.

[@A.K.1.N]

Hello, I am taking part in a research project. I could not find almost any information about the "main relay" of Porsche 912. Can you help me with this? "What is the main relay of 912 L jetronics used for?"

[@StrandKruezer]

Fun video, Nice car, but you got’ta tell us, why is this guy not wearing any shoes? 😂

[@jackpalczynski7884]

Finding a rust free 912 is the hard part. I looked at one 40 years ago and even then in New England, having been driven through the winters, when I looked at it, it was really ready for the crusher. I suppose that's part of why these things are so expensive these days. Even with the 4 cyl VW-like engine, survivors are a low percentage of what was produced. This one was from Texas. I guess trips to Texas or Arizona might find good ones but how many exist there in the land of Pick Up trucks?

[@petrolpancakes2946]

This started out being a great educational video on the 912. This light yellow looks the business with steel wheels sans hubcaps, stance, seats, black headliner, etc. Then we are freaking duped when you open the lid and show us the flat 6. A 912 is no longer a 912 without its flat 4.

[@jakkovaningen8350]

Cool 912! Thanks again for a cool video! Great start of the weekend😊

[@Juror_Number_Eight]

You guys lost me when you guffawed at the 986. I enjoy driving my 986 as much as I do my 997.

[@thepatinagroup]

Sorry if that’s how it came across. I personally love 986s and think they present tremendous value in the current market. My comment was directed at the stigma perpetuated by those who have not experienced one first hand.

[@horatiotimewaster5755]

Yeah, I bristled at that, too. Nothing wrong with a 986.

[@rogerjohnson2396]

How many dollars?

[@thesearch9048]

I’m not a purist, so find it interesting that he upgraded to a 6 instead of the 912’s 4. Curious if the combination of buying a 912 and upgrading the engine is still cheaper than picking up a 911?

[@michaelcobb2044]

Absolutely not w todays labor and parts costs !

[@lenos6120]

You could also buy a 911 and put 912 badge on it.

[@billfly2186]

Does the engine swap make this 912 more valuable? Very nice car. Keep the steelies.

[@Rennthusiast]

Yes

[@flat6fever680]

Solid advice from the young lad.

[@lemmdronn]

How tall r u?

[@Flynavyj]

Bit sad when they opened the boot and saw that the actual reason it’s a 912 was now missing….

[@justins8089]

Why would he “jump on it” wouldn’t that damage the vehicle?? Geeeeez

[@walkerskii]

Those wheels would look so much better with factory Porsche hubcaps, why do people insist on this unfinished look? When you bake a nice cake, add the beautiful & tasty frosting

[@TechnoloG84]

Nice video. Nice ride.

[@thomasforinger3488]

Fully agree... talking about the advantages of the 4 Cylinders, and then having a 911 engine... at least ot a SWB, cause there, the 912 is way better... anyhow. That' s why 912 will increase pricewise, cause too many became "911"

[@wikster6630]

Great video! 930 has been my dream car since I was 10

[@JonathanAdams-z8r]

HA! It’s not just “911ish” it is for all intents and purposes a 911! 😖 Here I thought I was going to watch a 912 video. Having owned both a ‘69 912 with the 1600cc 4 cylinder and a ‘84 3.2l Carrera, I can tell you the driving experience is night and day difference. But looking at your stable of 911’s, I’m sure you know that! It is a clean conversion and a great color, I’ll give you that…and love the houndstooth seats inserts! Yea, I’d probably of bought it too! 😄

[@stevemyers2092]

AND HERE"S WHY YOU WOULDN"T WANT ONE.... slow as molasses, I had a 69 in great shape and blew the engine not once but twice - so I bought a 96C4S and was in heaven. trust me they are cute dogs that have neither a bark or a bite.

[@billvanderpol]

Today, the 912 is going up very quickly. Soon, the 914 will be out of reach as well - same motor as the 912, but mid-engined and better handling. Get one while you can - good ones are going up fast.

[@larsjongen4756]

Not the same style motor, only the 912E (G-Model USA only 1976 model) has that same engine. Older 912s use 365 style engines.

[@jockellis]

My ‘68 912 was so much better at cornering after I got home from the Skip Barber 3-Day racing school.

[@thepatinagroup]

I appreciate all the comments! Call it a 912, upset 912 guys. Call it a 911, upset 911 guys. This car is most certainly a 912 hotrod in my eyes.

[@Rennthusiast]

🙌🏼

[@MW-uy3np]

Yea it’s just the title. Here is why a 912 is the one you want…: because its swapped with a flat six. Not gonna make many 912 owners happy with that thinking.

[@grumpy9478]

coulda opened the piece w/ "this is a 912 w/ a 911 S engine installed." then your audience would know what it is no matter what it's called.@@Rennthusiast

[@Rennthusiast]

@@grumpy9478 lol this video has ruffled some feathers. I honestly didn’t give it a lot of thought. Just went and hung out with a buddy and shot the car he’s really excited about.

[@grumpy9478]

Will, you're very enthusiastic & do great videos. you've covered a lot of cars in detail, each a fine case analysis. as a somewhat new, non-expert (but becoming one quickly) you've helped new entrants to Porschedom considerably (esp the visits to expert shops). one of the big problems in recent decades in the broader Porsche enthusiast community is the degree of misinformation / misunderstanding that gets bandied-about. almost all is innocent misdirection or ignorance... not malign. but some is - as mkt values have shot through the roof. longtime owners (& we're in 2nd & 3rd generation in cases) find imprecise or incomplete information to be poison for the community. it isn't just "I know more!", it's also "let's get things factually right so no one else gets screwed like I did..." or just, "be careful drawing conclusions based upon partial, surface "facts". as I watched your channel grow, I expected you'd get to older models someday & I am not at all surprised about this fairly innocuous insensitivity referencing the 912. consider it a learning experience for everyone. & if you ever get into 356s, be prepared for a subculture unlike any other - almost all positive & upbeat, but demanding in a QC kinda way. cheers, @@Rennthusiast

[@malcolmscott4150]

Not a purist here so any Porsche of this era has me intrigued given what was around at the time - fabulous car and great video Will 👍

[@steveo8424]

Uh. You forgot about 914. That’s the last cheap air cooled Porsche and they seem to be going up fast.

[@WilliamHawkins-k1c]

Makes a video why you should buy a 912 and proceeds to film 912 turned into a 911….lol. The most charming part of the 912 removed. 😅

[@marv7601]

Video is Misnomered. Should be retitled a 911 Twin Plug Swap into a 912

[@cjsawinski]

It’s been 6 swapped… so it’s not a 912…

[@bradjacobs1844]

“Cheap Porsche” is an oxymoron. If you find a cheap Porsche, there’s a reason for the low price. People are paying $50k for 912’s nowadays. Forget about older 911’s or any 356. Cheap Porsche…..

[@N911GT2]

You only buy the 912 if you can't afford the 911. It's like the Boxster of the old days.

[@elc1540]

No, people didn't ignore them, and the 911 "snobs" as you call them, want a 911. Non of them are cheap anymore. Thanks to speculators, flippers, etc. And then the former Ferrari guy, who "helps" people sell their cars starts talking about his 911....?

[@Rennthusiast]

Lol…thanks for sharing your opinion. 😄

[@nicholasagius4623]

here's why you should want a 912 - That has a 911 motor in it

[@ianhardin1148]

Shhhh! Don't ruin it for those of us who are still saving for one! 30 mph, handles better than the 911 and very rarely tries to kill you when driving it with "spirit."

[@danielprout8987]

If your going to mess the 912 up, just convert to an electric motor and go fast. These cars are rare and should be kept original.

[@craigtodd8297]

I know someone who has got one. A barn find.

[@mgconty1283]

It's a Ferrari Modena...like MOE-den-ah and not MAH-den-ah

[@SMMBHQ-cg2zy]

a poysche for poor people like me , i will take one .

[@martinskeet2111]

Bizarre - all about the brilliant 912 but then reveals it’s 911 engine. A 912 is a 911 with a four cylinder engine in it - so this is 911!

[@Rennthusiast]

Came from the factory as a 912.

[@martinskeet2111]

Yes! And now it’s ruined,

[@cmarshall4559]

912s are NOT cheap and this is NOT a 912😅

[@Carrera-gp9od]

It’s way too slow

[@plymouth491]

Okay, I watched the entire video and didn't find a single reason to own this or any other German car.

[@nunyabusiness4188]

I hope you don't get many views because the cat is already out of the bag and now your announcing it!