Porsche 928 S4 : Tim's Enthusiast Garage Episode 16

[@daviddrew7852]

I love the 928, and later versions like this one still look much cooler than many more recent 911s, IMHO.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

It has become a real classic

[@bicyclist2]

The 928 has been my dream car since the early 80's when I was a little kid. It was love at first sight. Thanks.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

christdragon I will be bringing out a video on my ‘79 928 so stay tuned !

[@eva5601]

I had a 1987 Porsche 928, back in 1993. I would drive my twin neice, and nephew who were 6 1/2 in the back seat, and drive on the car pool lane, here in los Angeles county. I would ask them to say, "Bye, bye suckers!" while hand waving to the other drivers stuck in traffic.

[@med8tor1]

I always knew the 928 will be recognized as one of the best Porsche design ever made. My '89 928S4 is so quintessential to look at just standing still.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

med8tor1 indeed! Unique and beautiful cars. Thanks so much for watching!

[@louir3199]

The Porsche model that hooked me as a kid! Also had the 944T- an awesome car too

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Loui Ybarra love those as well!

[@davidperdue1325]

Thanks for the great video. It's good to see a review of the 928 from someone who actually understands the car. You have to live with it for a long time to really "get" what it's all about and where it shines. Only a short time with the 928 usually leads to misunderstandings.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

David Perdue truth!

[@lucasclift3196]

I totally agree, my first car at 16 in 2003 was a 87' 944 and no one got it either at the time. The 928 is an awesome car for sure!

[@phillipkelley3513]

Beautiful car for sure! A bit hard to work on with the front fenders being so wide which really cuts off the accessible engine bay area. Make sure you have a very good set of fender covers when working in the engine bay. Classic design for sure.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Working on this and my Esprit lately has me in 100% agreement with you. Some times the best looks create the hardest accessibility

[@giannirocco7492]

Everybody freaks out about those headlamps and there's usually a mention about the transaxle but it's actually the build quality and design features that made this such an incredible automobile.I bought my'88 S4 in the early '90s and have mainly taken out of the garage for cross country road trips in the summer.What this car,to me,is an almost perfect and trouble free road monster;eating up to miles with comfort,speed and most of all confidence.This thing has turned out to be so dependable I could call it "bulletproof" without feeling it's an exaggeration.If a person can find a clean example without modifications and/or abuse issues they'll probably get something close to a perfect long range road car(or Grand Touring machine!)...

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

I have a ‘79 currently that has has some issues. Still a great car and for the most part your experience mirrors my past cars

[@giannirocco7492]

@@TimsEnthusiastGarage does the car have problems due to setting or problems from being driven?

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

@@giannirocco7492 it was an older gentleman who passed. It was off the road for several years. I installed updated suspension components, changed fluids, installed new exhaust manifolds and gaskets, new tires and repaired a leaking fuel junction, new spark plugs and wires , new battery and a few other odds and ends. It starts and idles but runs very rough under load

[@giannirocco7492]

@@TimsEnthusiastGarage hmmm,let me put some thought into it...

[@giannirocco7492]

@@TimsEnthusiastGarage I'm sure I can't tell you anything new but I always try to go with the cheapest,simplest stuff first.A compression test,scrutinizing each and every vacuum hose,things like that.Most of the time the answers are almost jumping out at us but we tend to want to over think it...I wish you luck,most stuff on this car is pretty straightforward!

[@TmacDesigns]

I totally agree with your explanation of the 928. I have one myself, a stock 1986.5 5 speed, sport seats, garnet red with matching interior. I've owned the car for over 15 years and has been very reliable. Starts every time, even after a winter layover.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Tony Macedo red/red? That sounds beautiful. These are special cars. Happy to shed some light on them

[@izatizatruachhakodesh3069]

Nice INFORMATIVE VIDEO on the PORSCHE 928. THANKS.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Izat Izat thanks for watching! I just purchased a ‘79 manual transmission car and will be doing a video of that shortly!

[@1shredderx]

I loved 928s the moment they came into existence. I bought an 87 S4 as a flip project and had a very hard time turning it loose. I drove it from the east coast of NC to Louisville and back. So great through the mountain turns! Sideways a lot in Louisville. I made some good money on it, but miss it. I'm shopping for one now. I like the rear end of the 86 better than the 87 & up.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

1shredderx thanks for watching! Good luck with your search. I always regret selling the great ones.

[@AutoAmateur]

I had the MatchBox toy version of this as a kid. I looooooooved this car. What a brilliant example of such an iconic car. Nice video!

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Auto Amateur thanks so much for your comment. Mine was a white hot wheels with a 70’s “928” font on the bonnet. Pretty cool. Cheers!

[@AutoAmateur]

Tim's Enthusiast Garage now there’s an idea for Porsche lover’s video... a guided tour a Porsche Hot Wheels collection... 😄 I’d watch it. Haha.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Auto Amateur I am a bit of a collector so that def interests me. I may put something together. Great thought!

[@SAMMYJR00777]

@@TimsEnthusiastGarage I just bought this car last week which is same one that you were just driving in the video. it is in garage now.I added to my collection which i will hold on to this one long time. Great video.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

@@SAMMYJR00777 so glad it went to a great home! enjoy!

[@DigitalJeremy]

Easy going review, calm and relaxed. Just like our 1980 928 - spirited, but relaxed when you need it to be. We'd like a bit more oomph (4.5 l 3 spd auto), but we're focused on suspension, first. Fortunately, the aftermarket it still very strong for these cars, so adjustable suspension and a bolt-on supercharger are both accessible. One can still build these cars up to a respectable and fun level. IMHO 928's were sort of overlooked; forgotten...which is all the better for those of us who can appreciate just how fantastic they really are.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

DigitalJeremy great insight ! Good luck with your resto. I am looking at a 79 5 speed tomorrow. Possibly adding another 928 to the mix. Stay tuned :)

[@DigitalJeremy]

So jelly!! Good luck :)

[@louir3199]

Enjoyed your review. Own an ‘87 S4 guards red and yes, the untimely upshifts to be careful Awesome V8 sound and LOVE the suspension!! A great cruiser Seattle to AZ - would take this car on long road trips anytime!

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Loui Ybarra thanks for watching . Seattle to AZ is a beautiful drive. Just the sort of grand tour this car was made for!

[@im9282]

'88 S4 here, Venetian blue 5MT with factory LSD and goes like a stabbed rat. I've had it eight years and love it.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

IM 928 stabbed rat 😂. . I like that one. Enjoy it, that is a truly exceptional colour!

[@RockClass101]

Best color for the 928!

[@garage9283]

IM 928 where are you located?

[@stereolababy]

i have the same one

[@highglosscbj]

Headlamps are a thing of beauty.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

irockacorolla I completely agree! Thanks for watching, subscribe if you would be so kind

[@rayrodrigo3999]

Off of the Lamborghini muira

[@Alexi7666]

I still have my first Acura, an '03 Acura CL-S, six-speed. Not as quick as the later 4-valve 928s, but in 157,000 miles I've only changed the timing belt/water pump once.

[@BoneyBobsTreasure]

Hi Tim, a very civil and well formed response thanks. This is a lengthy reply, which i justify on the basis that if the kids are interested in what happened 30 years ago they might be willing to read a little more about it.....so, I am not surprised you object, but it is worthwhile looking at these things for the sake of the enthusiasts now who (perhaps unlike me) were not actually around at the time and involved. As well as having been there and being involved with cars/motorbikes, I benefit from being in the EU and (if if mattered) being qualified in International Law so very attuned to the actual company reasons behind these changes. They were, at the time, 'paper published' material which the internet doesnt capture and given the power of the internet it is worth public commentators being exact in what we saw. We should accept that the actual 'reason' for the change was the requirements of the EU regulations and I offer you that correction to take on board and popularise more - if we dont change what we think we will never improve it. The 'reason' for the change is that no air-cooled vehicle could have passed the new EU noise regs. The 'response' from the company is a different matter. We can comment (and editorialise) about that response all day long but the reason was the introduction of EU vehicle noise regulations. As a result of this, any development of the rear engine platform at that time would have required a 911 with an even heavier water-cooled engine at the back which would not have worked (until we later saw newer technology/design allied to Pinky Lai and the 996). So yes, its is certainly a matter of LAYOUT (your emphasis) in RESPONSE, but it is not a matter of layout in REASON. The reason, the requirement for change, the imperative, remains the introduction of the EU Regulations. You would, for historical interest, also see exactly the same development in motorcycle engineering at the time and also in killing off VW air cooled vehicles in the EU. So, it remains wholly correct that the 'reason' for the change was the Regulations. A secondary reason might (we could reasonably observe) be the business reason of allying the Porsche company with the VAG group (reflected in the 924 development). Speculatively, a tertiary reason might be the production engineering (allied to the move to align with VAG) because the unitary nature of the 911 power plant would not facilitate multi-site and multi work-station production the way the transaxle does. The response that the Company had was the 928 (and 924) and while Porsche may (and do) now say what they wish about the choice of the transaxle the reason for the change was the EU Regulations, simple as that. I had the choice at the time and I chose water cooled transaxle over air cooled but the point of my comment was/is the 'reason' for the change, not the response that resulted. You are mistaken in terms of your comment is to say that you "know many people like yourself like to think of Porsche as the 911 and other models". A risky gambit, I am afraid, because chum, that you certainly you cold not know that about me. My friend, you could not be more entirely mistaken if you said the Porsche crest was composed of crossed Bratwurst lol! I come straight from the heart of the water-cooled transaxle world and drove transaxle Porsche for over twenty years and was enthusiastic enough about transaxle as to prepare a 924 for the Historic Monte Carlo Rally (where all us young kids were delighted to remember seeing the transaxle 924 win first time out in 1979 driven by Jurgen Barth). When I went to buy my first Porsche in Europe over thirty years ago I looked at an air-cooled 911 and thought it was a laughable thing compared to the water cooled transaxle...upside down pedals, hopeless heating/ventiltion, compromised rear end design. So no....you dont "know many people like yourself like to think of Porsche as the 911 and other models". Still, no harm done in your being mistaken, the only mistake lies in not graciously about it. Standing corrected, you can be sure that you are correct. David Thompson

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

WOW. Now THIS is how discourse should occur on the internet. I want to THANK you for taking the time to make this reply, I know it had to take precious time that you could have been doing something else and this video, and comment section are all the better for it. You put an excellent point on why this and other videos I have posted are fairly broad and that is because there are a whole contingent of enthusiasts who were NOT alive in the 80's let alone the 70's and 60's who love these cars and becoming interested for the first time. In this modern era of auto review where every car is sideways and being driven on oversteer for the ENTIRE video it's almost amusing to think of how magazines here in the states like Car and Driver, Road and Track and Motor Trend looked at the 911 as being a scary handler. Maybe we all just learned to drive and finally caught up with what Porsche was doing ? :-) To your point, perhaps I should have given water-cooling a larger role. Just like modern drive by noise regulations (EU) and mpg (US and world) they are certainly shaping the industry and I did focus more on layout change and in a way was forsaking a big bullet point: water-cooling. I was really trying to bring light to Porsche not BEING the 911. Just as they weren't JUST the 356 cars like the 944, 951 and even the modern 986 and 987 Boxster and Cayman are AMAZING cars. I just hope that we as ENTHUSIASTS find the joy, engineering and excellence in these other models which have merit of their own. Now that Porsche is producing transportation (cayenne and Panamera), in other words cars that aren't JUST drivers cars, it's important to shine light on amazing cars like the 924S, 944, 951, 928 and 968 as they start to become collectable and BEFORE they are so expensive that the young enthusiast cannot hope to take part. Now, let's get to work designing that bratwurst unt beer crest logo :-) Cheers my friend and long may you enjoy the transaxle era.

[@BoneyBobsTreasure]

You're welcome Tim, promoting the 928 was a great idea. It takes nothing away from the quality of the video that an elderly pedant like me pushes the point about the company level consideration for change and great to see the 928 getting the recognition it didn't perhaps attract at the time. It taught me a lesson as it highlighted to me just how much material from the 1980's and even 1990's that was 'commonly accepted' to us at the time e.g. the possibly 'evil' effects of EU legislation is now 'invisible' to younger people because it was all in print in those days. I will now return to hiding from the 911 contingent after making those public comments about upside down pedals etc.

[@kellingtonlink956]

An absolutely brilliant review. I agree. Thanks for the video.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Cheers! I appreciate your comment and taking the time to watch. Please subscribe for more 928 videos coming this summer

[@automotiveaffairsshorts]

The first sports car I got to drive properly was a 928 GTS. It was also the first car I ever went over 200 km/h in.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

First car I ever drove over 160mph was a 928GTS . It was also one of the first cars I ever drove with tire pressure monitors. Left front showed a problem at said mph. I was scared 🤣

[@Cheekybird8]

Great looking 928 and video!

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Eric Kohl thanks for watching and for your comment!

[@PorscheChile]

Awesome video....I love the Porsche 928.......

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

PorscheChile thanks!! 928 is one of the best. Cheers! Subscribe for future videos!!

[@pederfallbom]

Fantastic cars the 928 and to me the original car 1978-79 is the best looking version. The Euro 240hp in manual is a gem👌 5 years has passed since you did this, values has risen alot and now mint examples of the really early and late GTS cars are the most expensive. Best buy is probably a late Euro S or S4 in manual. Great review

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

I have had a manual 79 car for about 3 years now. I agree with you that those are indeed sweet

[@pederfallbom]

@@TimsEnthusiastGarage Indeed they are🙂👌 I also have a -79 manual. I used to have a -89 GT. You inspired me into getting a Lotus Esprit which I did a month ago, a 1990 Turbo SE in black. I have some plans for it so would be great to get some tips from you🙂

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

@@pederfallbom always happy to chat Esprit 🤗. Interestingly my first 928 was a GTS, then I had a GT (which I loved). The 79 feels so much lighter ! A totally different car!

[@pederfallbom]

@@TimsEnthusiastGarage Yes the GT needs to be driven really fast to come alive wilst the gen 1 928 feels agile and eager in everyday traffic, really sweet drive. I love the clean look of the early car without spoilers and rubstrips and teledials. Also I love the funky Pascha🙂 Can I email you re Esprit?

[@pederfallbom]

Hi Tim. Let me know how/were to contact you about the Esprit

[@angelparedes7127]

Nicely done. Looks exactly almost like my 5spd GT

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

angel paredes I had a lovely GT with a manual but a man came along and made me an offer for it that I couldn’t refuse. I miss it

[@Akira-10n]

Love this review, very insightful and expertly displays the greatness of the 928. I have an 84 and love it to death. I love the majority of Porsches , other than the suvs😂 which are nice but not for me. I have always loved the 928 and am in the market for another. This S4 is exactly what I'm looking for. What year 88?

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Ernesto, Thanks so much for watching and for your feedback. This car is a 1987. In a sea of SUV's these transaxle Porsches are positively special.

[@marcuslarsson4207]

Great video. I think you did something great with the camera angle in this video

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Marcus Larsson wow, thanks so much. Thanks for watching and please subscribe if you haven’t already. Cheers!

[@drm2566]

Beautiful

[@martinhimself]

Awesome video! Love 928s!

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Martin JK thanks for watching !!

[@petyrkowalski9887]

Lovely. Inwould go for the manual box.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Petyr Kowalski recently I added a manual transmission equipped ‘79 car to the line up. Video to come this spring!

[@petyrkowalski9887]

Tim's Enthusiast Garage nice. I look fprward to that

[@kc4cvh]

So, how did you solve the hatch lock problem? Is the driver's door handle hinge cracked too? When I bought a 1985 928S a few years ago I was surprised by the use of these cheap (no other word accurately describes them) pot metal parts in a car that cost $44,550 (or $101,000 in today's dollarettes) and by the astonishing prices for replacements. Consequently, I am seeking the means to cast these parts in brass, or some other material stronger and less brittle than the Porsche-specified pot metal.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

kc4cvh . Neither this car nor my ‘79 have the aforementioned parts broken, though I did have an 86 years ago where both were non functional. On pricey cars like this and the r129 SL I am always surprised by where the manufacturer seemed to cut corners. One would think it would be in less tangible and frustrating ways. Thanks for watching and for your commentary!

[@obeel4702]

My dads owns one, and I love it! 🚗

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Obeel 0516 great cars. Thanks for watching !

[@ΔΗΜΗΤΡΗΣΔΗΜΗΤΡΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ-ρ7χ]

Great video.....as always!!!!

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

ΔΗΜΗΤΡΗΣ ΔΗΜΗΤΡΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ thanks for watching!

[@Alexi7666]

Love the video! But the sun is never in the daytime sky one place very long.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Alexi7666 thanks for watching

[@VADORT]

924 turbo, 944 S2 or turbo and 928 GT and S4 are one the best cars in car history

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Sigmundy Freud I very much agree with you. Beautiful engineering

[@zablusiraj5755]

I love 928 S4 so much.... I bought two!

[@62falconizer]

Great seeing another video!

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Thanks man. I appreciate hearing that. Hope you are well! Cheers.

[@wendycity99]

Tim thanks for the new video

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Tillman Scott cheers! And thanks for watching.

[@wendycity99]

We missed you

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

HAHAHA good to hear! Thanks so much for your kindness. I have several other episodes already shot but finding an editor who really gets the material and what I am going for has been a real challenge. Will get that all sorted and get those out without the huge gap. As I work in and consult in the automotive industry I have considered doing a daily VLOG that has very little editing and is more of a beginning to end of the day flow but have yet to decide on what elements of the industry I want to focus on. For now I will continue to feature cars in my collection and other cars that are good investments for enthusiasts on a budget. Cheers!

[@TheGreenNewSteal2025]

Suddenly my impulse purchase of a glacier blue 1984 928s 5spd with 93k miles, needing only a transaxle rebuild for the paltry sum of $500 seems like an even better deal. Maybe I will rethink its future as a Gambler 500 car.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Micah Moore wow. Great buy! Yes man, enjoy it! Thanks for watching. Subscribe as I will soon be posting videos of my 79 manual trans 928. Cheers!

[@andreasdammann9431]

Hello Tim! Thanks for the new video! I have the same car same colour as well in perfect condition. I found mine in Taiwan a few years ago with very low miles (I am a German expat in Taiwan). Mine is an automatic as well. However, I can feel a lot of drag in my S4 which is coming from the gearbox. Do you experience the same? I have as well an S class Mercedes from the same area which doesn't let me experience any drag. I have the feeling that a manual 928 would drive more vivid like my 968 (manual). The automatic transmission in the 928 is for me the only thing which I think steals a lot of potential from the car. What are your thoughts? At the same time I am looking forward to seeing your next video. I can tell you put a lot of effort into making them. Best wishes Andreas

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Andreas Dammann great comment. Yes, drag is a good way to put it. The torque converter saps a lot of “energy “ from this car and oddly it doesn’t feel that way in the slightly less powerful 500SL. Granted these cars have a torque tube... but yes both my auto S and S4 has the same feeling. This particular car is very well maintained so I think it is just the way it is. The manual is much more vivid indeed, however, they are MUCH more than expensive and I think owning an auto 928 still makes good sense and they will appreciate. More videos to come. Cheers!

[@frozencarguy6274]

I think the automatic suits the vibe of the car but I would prefer a manual

[@BMan100]

If you can find one, that isn't at a dealer and with someone who doesn't start a bidding war with you. I lost out on a 1990 GT 5spd, but got beat out by some dude in Winnipeg who also bought two 911 turbos. (the older 930's)

[@keithhite6388]

@@BMan100 thank you for your presentation and I look forward to having a 93' Porsche 928 S4 in my garage as well. Chow...

[@olofssonwarren]

ive a manual and an auto there both good in different ways. in traffic an auto of course but the manual makes it a different beast to drive.

[@VADORT]

Automatik gear box was mostly for american markets where ROAD are straight for thousands miles

[@JoshsWorld]

You convinced me to go out and make a purchase... so where did you get the Bentley jacket?

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

JoshsWorld.com Bentley in England has them for sale. I LOVE THAT JACKET. I thought you might enjoy thay

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

That

[@tkong888]

Thanks for making one of the best 928 videos on YT (I’ve probably watched every single 928 video)! This is a must-watch for anyone considering to purchase one (like me). Do you still own one?

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Of course I still own one AND am planning an update video :) . I really appreciate your kind compliments here. These cars are pretty special. I do the same thing when there is a car I am passionate about. I love to hear peoples perspective! My current car is a ‘79 manual transmission car. The early cars feel so much different from the later cars it’s almost like a different car. Eventually I will have another S4 automatic but this red one went to a very happy new owner. Again, thanks so much for watching and for your kindness🙏

[@tkong888]

@@TimsEnthusiastGarage Hey Tim! Thanks so much for the instantaneous reply! You're offer such a wealth of knowledge and value. Yeah, based on what I've read and watched, the earlier cars (like your '79) definitely is unique and special in its own right. I might be buying a '87 S4 today. If I do, I'll start doing videos on it (now that I've said that, I will have to). As a former S4 owner, any advice as to what to look out for?

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

@@tkong888 keep me posted if you buy the car !!

[@tkong888]

@@TimsEnthusiastGarage made an offer, seller countered, in my court now, will decide this weekend.

[@tkongny]

@@SAMMYJR00777 Hey! I did buy it. Oh, you bought it from Tim?

[@banzairunner9997]

Great channel, Tim! What is the maintenance cost for a Lotus Esprit in comparison to the 928?

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Banzai, Thanks for watching, I hope you sub as. I will be releasing more videos that deal with the specifics of maintaining these cars long term. As I mentioned in the video I experienced a load of failures on 928's. For example I have had two 928's have massive climate control issues that required replacing many parts and ended up being thousands of dollars where with the Esprit the AC has worked for a solid decade and the only issue I ever had was a stuck heater control valve which was an easy quick fix for no dollars spent. The Engines on Esprit were also far cheaper for me to maintain as I ran into lots of oil leaks and expensive and harder belt changes on the 928. If I had to pick between the two, no question the esprit would get the nod. The 4 cylinder cars in particular are really charming 93-95. If you have other questions you can always email timsenthusiastgarage.com. Thanks again. Cheers

[@banzairunner9997]

Tim's Enthusiast Garage... Definitely subbed and liked. I own a 1985 928 (5 speed) and mechanically it’s been very reliable, but it did take some searching to find one in excellent condition with service records. I’ve had a few electrical gremlins but that’s about it. I’ve had my eye on the Esprit and your video instilled some confidence that maybe its not the basket case some people make it out to be.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Banzai Runner for sure worth your time to check one with some history. Cheers!

[@danopureblood7066]

I’ve owned GT with the 5-Speed for 20 yrs and LOVE IT! I always own a 71 911t which Im restoring and a 996, the 928GT is the best of them all! I bought the GT from the original owner with 3500 miles, he’s a trust fund baby and got it as a wedding gift ($100k+), he had his choice of ANY car and picked the 928GT, with his bride they drove it from Boston to Beverly Hills where it was serviced at BH’s Porsche, then put it on a ship to Maui. He lost the keys , then one of the power windows wouldn’t go up so it set in his garage for a years, I met him through our Weekley poker game and every time we went to his house I’d see it dusty and covered with boxes in his garage, I keep telling him jokingly that I’d get it out of his garage for him any time he wants. One day, for some reason his monthly trust fund check didn’t come thru on time and he need money and called me, I got it for a song and have owned it ever since. A few years ago I shipped it to the mainland, picked it up in LA and drove it to Vegas the long way, one of the best drives I’ve ever had! It’s now in my Garage in Arizona with 18k on the clock, haven’t got it licensed yet, but i have a large driveway and keep the juices flowing Weekley. I hate to part with it, but might take it to the Scottsdale auction this year, been really wanting a GT3?

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Dan Scheper well, it sounds like you have a magnificent car. Gt3 is on a different level and will also be very collectible. I regret selling my last GT. I drove a mates black 928 GT today and ... it is a pretty special car. Certainly the performance envelope is much higher on the GT3 and they always feel pretty bespoke. your GT will bring pretty good money now though, I have to think the value still has a way to go. Either way, enjoy the drive. Thanks for the comment, I hope you subscribe. Cheers!

[@gonzalomartinez-gil2820]

,Mantenlo, un S4 GT es de pura raza

[@BoneyBobsTreasure]

And apologies for any typos it is very early in the AM here in europe..

[@hertzair1186]

Porsche should have twin-turbo’d the 928 in it’s final years to get 400 hp and 0-60 in under 4.5 sec.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Hard to to disagree

[@FAST928GTS]

I loved my 928 and should never have sold it!

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Wayne e60 M5s aren’t bad either 🤙

[@996Revival]

Interesting comparison to the 996

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Thanks for watching.

[@BMan100]

I found the steering to be.. Overly heavy, WHICH! I can understand when you going at 200+ Km's an hour...on the auto bahn .

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

B-MAN a trade that I find to be well worth it. Thanks for watching!

[@BMan100]

now if I could not get ALWAYS OUT BID ON TH ONES I FIND!!! lol. found a 1990 GT 5spd, 50 grand..I lost out on it, but got beat out by some dude in Winnipeg who also bought two 911 turbos. (the older 930's)

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

B-MAN prices have been going NUTS LATELY.

[@BMan100]

Tim's Enthusiast Garage next the 850 6spd

[@davidcontini7217]

Please install the original 16 inch rims on the car.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

The manhole covers have grown on me

[@JamieBainbridge]

Ahh I still see the 928 as the car only its mother could love. Like you said they tried to do a next-level 911 and weren't sure whether the car was a sports or tourer or luxury, it was more targeted to the US market, they tried to do too much and ended up not doing any of it really well. The famous "911 whiteboard incident" kinda proves the 928 is not where Porsche's heart lies. I do agree it was a good experimental step to developing the 996, that's an interesting and insightful observation. You look stuffed into this one, it must have a super small interior, even an FC RX7 can seat someone your height. I don't like all the cars you do but I still love seeing how passionate you get about these old and often-unloved cars and the reasons why, your channel is so enjoyable. Lots of different video shots and a few different speech tones made this particular video really good, it felt more like snippets of a cool conversation between good friends than a formal "review" and the result is really nice.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Jamie oh man. I cannot thank you enough for taking the time to write this comment. You “got” exactly what I was trying to convey and to hear that right out of the gate... it means the world to me. The 928, despite being a large package has very little interior space. The 996 has LOADS more room. From this era cars like the bmw 6 and 8 both have lots more room as well. It really does speak to the indecision. They made a Gt into a giant sports car that in the end was merely a stepping stone to greatness. Still a cool car when compared with the people carries they are making now with the Macan, Cayenne, Panamera etc . Thanks again for the comment. Subscribe if you would be so kind and I hope to see you around in future comments . Cheers!

[@colinjohnston8519]

Well not everyone has good taste..

[@texmex9721]

I would love to get an old 928, and toss a 500HP Cayenne turbo V-8 and running gear under the body.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Tex Mex 😈 I like the way you think

[@texmex9721]

A friend was telling be about how he wanted to put a Chevy V-8 into an 968, and I was thinking, there are tons of Cheap Cayenne V-8s, and turbo V-8s available. Why not use a Porsche engine? You could even have AWD and a dual clutch transmission.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Tex Mex same brand engine makes all the difference. From zero to hero

[@petyrkowalski9887]

That would be sacrelidge. Surely 350bhp is enough on public roads?

[@niacal4nia]

The manual 928s are lighter, quicker, and have faster top speed, however PITA in LA traffic. I own a manual 1986 Porsche 928 32 valve which has the old classic look with the 5.0 engine and much lighter.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

niacal4nia manuals are truly something special

[@onamission1898]

What’s up with the Bentley blazer when featuring a Porsche. Ha ha

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Onamission 18 it’s what I was wearing that day. I wore a lotus jacket on the Maserati GS review. I need to step up the match game.

[@RootBeerGMT]

Aren’t most slush box equipped?

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

JR Gb they are as I outlined in the video. Honestly it kind of suits the character of the car. I recently acquired an early manual trans car and will be doing a video on that

[@josemontano7767]

Wow 350HP in the 70s must have been awesome

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Jose Montano sadly they didn’t make that much till the 90’s which... was still a bunch of power then

[@Landshark928]

240 euro hp was the max till the S came

[@virgilrytaar9083]

942 was built for Ferry Porsche

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Indeed. Got a chance to sit in that car

[@Clygroup44]

Tim, I really enjoyed your episode on the 928S4. So much so I'll be sure to take my almost identical S4 in featured in the video on the PCA fall color tour this weekend. I have owned my car for 7 years this fall and loved every moment of it. Manual with tan / black interior. I'll include a link that the PCA produced during the 2015 French Lick Porsche Parade so you can see how close the featured car is! And I also have a silver 2002 996! Agreed on the stalks! What were they thinking? kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJXdl4t4o8uoo5I

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Thanks for taking the time watch and comment. Love the 996 but man. Those column stalks are the worst in a car of this caliber. I recently picked up a 1979 manual 928 and have been tweaking it a bit. I will be releasing a video on this car as well. Cheers and again, thanks for watching and enjoy your cars!!

[@andre3828]

help me guys. I can buy me one now but must i or must i not ?

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

andre van der merwe andre you should buy now as they are quickly rising in price

[@carwink8124]

Their plenty quick, easy on the eyes, and handle like their on rails. A muscle car in a tuxedo. But some say not quick enough, those that have not ridden in a supercharged or TwinTurbo'd 928. lol Wanna smoke a Veyron SS in the 1/4 mile? No problem.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Carwin K they are fantastic cars

[@speak_your_truth.]

Too much camera focus on the dude, not enough on the vehicle which is way prettyer.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Thanks for the feedback

[@drobson8004]

You appear to be a cool guy Tim. Anywhere near as cool as a 928 S4? Sorry bro', not even close. Speak_your _ truth nailed this one.

[@eliakimbenishchayil]

I have an 81 in manual

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

I have a 79 manual as well and really have grown to like the early cars

[@turkeywildman3871]

@15:15 OIL OK?

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Turkey Wildman just topping up the fuel. They can be a bit thirsty 🤫

[@billystutz55]

Comparing the 996 to the 928 is just stupid.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

The 996 takes quite a bit from the 928 experience. Drive them both and listen to the points I’m making. It’s not a direct comparison, rather pointing out the lineage and lessons learned. Cheers!

[@colinjohnston8519]

It's not a GT though. It was meant to be the replacement for the 911. Its just most American's are too lazy to shift gears. Why buy a sports car then??

[@colinjohnston8519]

Andrew Mcculley go learn what your talking about fellow. The 928 is a sports car. It has 50/50 weight distribution and like I said was meant to be Porsches only model after they discontinued the 911. Are you telling me you think Porsche aren't a sports car manufacturer? It's a luxury sports car numb nuts.

[@BoneyBobsTreasure]

No. Porsche did not have to design the 928 to "change the weight bias" and Porsche did not have to "change the cultural norm of what people thought of as a Porsche", Tim. What you say is simply not true and it is disappointing to hear people misinformed. What Porsche required to do with the 928 was produce a water cooled car because European Union 'static' noise regulations meant that an air-cooled vehicle like the 911 could no longer pass the legal requirements and the 911 could not be converted to water cooling at that time.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Boney Bob I don’t usually object to comments but as much of this came directly from Porsche factory in Stuttgart I feel I must. As I mentioned in the video they have been celebrating the transaxle era and innovations gleaned from vehicles like the 951 and 928. They were very aware of editorial review that their 930 “super car fighter” was a bit of a handful due to it’s rear engined nature and that they were one of the last hold outs in rear engine land. Piech himself had lead the push on innovations such as water cooling , mid engine placement as well as all wheel drive. So yes there was a cultural change happening in the company at that time, again, according to the factory itself. While I am editorializing here I am certainly not misinformed. The transaxle story is a fascinating one. I know many people like yourself like to think of Porsche as “the 911” and other models. The 928 was very much an exercise in LAYOUT every bit as much as it was about water cooling. However, Porsche was an innovator before rear engine placement and certainly since. If you would like to chat more please feel free to PM me either here or over on the IG account. Cheers.

[@edwinthomas618]

It seems Gen 1 Acura NSX took borrowed a lot of interior cues.... I mean stole from this beautiful beast.

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Edwin Thomas Maaaaan it’s funny you say that. Every time I am in an NSX I think how similar those center stacks are

[@edwinthomas618]

Yep. I fell for the F-16 cockpit inspiration but when I bought my 88 S4 (Diamond blue metallic).... I said...nope you got the from the 928. Keep doing what you Tim...

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Edwin Thomas thank you sir! I so appreciate the feedback

[@kaiman5307]

The headlights are like the frog’s eye

[@TimsEnthusiastGarage]

Kai man very unique