Surely the ultimate Porsche 928GTS is worth more than an entry-level 911 ?
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@pgtmr27132 жыл бұрын
911's are kind of... ordinary. 928 GTS is a special car.
@oscar36112 жыл бұрын
I've owned exactly that car, a white GTS. Mine was a manual, no leather interior, en left hand drive, I'm Dutch. I LOVED it. It's bulletproof and so well made. I traded it after a few years for a black 964 turbo. What a great time I had. I'm broke now, business collapsed, my life crumbled, but it's all good. I'm just as happy being poor. Poverty makes a creative life, and I appreciate it. But your car is awesome!
@Landshark9282 жыл бұрын
Ben blij voor je dat je de mooie ervaringen hebt gehad! Same here als ex 928 S2 eigenaar
@purplehead95112 жыл бұрын
I did have a couple of nice Porsches but divorce cost me those 😞
@kingkreole912110 ай бұрын
I suppose this is a valid consideration down under. However, in the US and Europe a good 928 GTS is worth about same as a 964 or 993. You'd be looking at a 997 turbo manual for 928 GTS (automatic) money. And 928 GTS 5 speed manual cars are worth considerably more.
@charleslee58 Жыл бұрын
I owned 928 since 1985.It has 47000 miles on it.(I bought brand new 928 in US when l was a student in boston.now its in Korea for 27 years.I have some other cars with lot more horses but still l pick 928 key when l feel great. Believe it or not 928 gets more attention than newest Lambo or Ferrari in S.Korea.only 3 legal 928s in Korea with plate number. So obviously it's hey look at me car than thousands of Lambos and Ferraries.Bravo 928!
@realdata13782 жыл бұрын
The 911 is the poor man's 928. Sorry - I gotta call balls and strikes. the 928 was European "Car" of the Year 1979. No other sports car including the 911 has ever won "Car" of the year. The 928 has won 2 production car land speed record at Bonneville (1986 and 2020) - the 911 has exactly won none. Even 911 enthusiast Magnus Walker has started his 928 collection - its Now or Never for the 928 still the biggest Bang for the Buck in classic Porsches. Singer/RWB/RUF could easily reimagine 928s - its just a matter of time before someone specializes in customizing and outlawing 928s - There is no substitute. The 911 Killer's time has come!
@detonator21122 жыл бұрын
If you take away the pop-up headlights 928 GTS could be a car out of production line today. The design is SO timeless. Only the 993 is better looking Porsche, in my opinion.
@andydhillon1977 Жыл бұрын
The Panamera is the continuation of the 928.
@michaelschock3179 Жыл бұрын
I own a 1992 GTS in amazon green since 2003. It is a great car, with a design that just doesn't age. In fact, I have been asked many times if it is a new car and people can't believe that it's 30 years old. A good maintained 928 is reliable and just a blast to drive. If I had to, I would sell my 911 in a heartbeat, but not my 928 GTS!
@thecollectorgarage9912 Жыл бұрын
amazon green would definitely be my preference if i could find one at reasonable price
@bradford_shaun_murray2 жыл бұрын
opening shot looks like Mt Ousley 3:26 that's very Bruce lol
@TYP-TRANSAXLE2 жыл бұрын
Some get a bit starry eyed about the 928 GTS variation, particularly when comparing to S4s and GTs. Digi dash, few more litres, maybe an airbag, some extra HP, low production numbers and last of the model seem to get them excited. Perhaps that's justified to an extent but not sure there is as great a divide between the models as some would suggest, particularly around the driving experience. For mine, the real gem is any one of those 3 variants in the rare 5 speed "dog-leg" manual setup which turns the "point and shoot" driving experience from autos on its head. Good luck with the sale process, hope it proves successful.
@SAMMYJR007772 жыл бұрын
I Have 87 s4 w 40k miles mint and so solid fast.. i also drove gts 928 could not see the differences.. i also like 87 dash better.
@chesswizard312 жыл бұрын
Preference varies quite a bit for the 928 crowd. For me, the 1980-83 Euro/RoW S cars with either the 5-speed or the 3-speed auto (yes, not the 4-speed) are the most fun to drive. CIS 300hp engine, lowest weight, best sounding and looking. The latter is subjective, of course. These are also the closest to Porsche's original vision and hopes for the car upon release in 1978. The late stage prototypes called for a 5.0 300hp engine with CIS. Say what you may about the purity of the original base car and it's design, but it was not good enough under the hood and Porsche never would have willingly released a 4.5 240hp model if the fuel crisis wasn't going on.
@thecollectorgarage9912 Жыл бұрын
interestingly mine, both the white one and black one have really had no problems .. compared for instance to a audi ur quattro i had recently that was always broken
@500372 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Check the flex plate to avoid thrust bearing failure.
@thecollectorgarage99122 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@TYP-TRANSAXLE2 жыл бұрын
$128k for a 1990 928 GT Manual in Shannon's last online auction that closed yesterday!! Full freight result and confirms increasing appetite for rarer manual versions and particularly Aust del ones
@thecollectorgarage99122 жыл бұрын
Hi Martin / couldn’t agree more / the nice guy I sold mine to @ $88k in country NSW robbed me !!
@Landshark9282 жыл бұрын
Would choose a 928 always over an 911. This GP white GTS is mouthwatering!!!!
@thecollectorgarage99122 жыл бұрын
was a great colour but i did sell when i got chance to buy the black one with very low kms ... not sure black looks as good but does feel very Boss turning up in black GTS
@Dundertaker12 жыл бұрын
You have a car with a soul and it will (should) never be worth less than what you paid for it. That said...get on RENNLIST and join the forums. Download a copy of the workshop manuals and get to work. They're not that hard to work on (I own 3 two S3's 85 and an 86.5 and an 83). Those are BELLY PANS and you're lucky you have them. Many mechanics "forget" to re-install them. The main thing you need to worry about is the TB/WP and, typically, the shocks are gone and you won't know what the car should run like without new shocks. Other than that drive the piss out of it...:) Following.
@thecollectorgarage99122 жыл бұрын
good advice - new shocks i got from the UK - original spec Boge for 500GBP I thought was a great deal
@Dundertaker12 жыл бұрын
@@thecollectorgarage9912 I was told by a friend who has decades more experience than i...."These shocks look fine"....his reply...there aren't a set of 30+ year old shocks on the planet that are "fine"...replace them. He was 100% right. I'm a "Koni Red" man myself...but OEM is what I'd use on that car too.
@EduSanjuan777 Жыл бұрын
Always 928 GTS
@3.2Carrera2 жыл бұрын
All of these cars are very special and may the force be with anyone keeping these running. I'm doing a tired Carrera 3.2 engine myself and while time consuming, it's not too bad IMO (albeit expensive). VW beetle technology is the most talked about criticism, but that old tech does make it very easy to drop and service the engine. I'm not sure if the 928 would be beyond my capabilities, but with the enthusiasts documenting their work it paves the way for those after.
@thecollectorgarage99122 жыл бұрын
928 are very complicated - every time i think i will start working on it myself, I mostly end up giving up - buy every so often you actually fix something it is very satisfying!
@frankwaugh1894 Жыл бұрын
I just feel blessed to live in Dallas. Between other owners on rennlist giving each other advice and 928srus being located here and around 2 dozen owners showing up to the monthly breakfasts there is a LOT of support if you own a 928 in the Dallas area. Makes a HUGE difference. 928 is an awesome car even 40 years later.
@BMan1002 жыл бұрын
928…with a stick….I love those cars, sadly didn’t get a chance to buy one due to the major price increases and bidding wars.
@thecollectorgarage99122 жыл бұрын
yes - i wonder how many of these recent buyers are real enthusiasts or just hoarding cars because they think they will make money out of them which is a shame
@BMan1002 жыл бұрын
@@thecollectorgarage9912I'll just have to make due with the my Challenger Scat Pack lol (manual... 6.4...)
@itstheweather5859 Жыл бұрын
I love that wood trim on the door panels! It's immaculate condition. I want one!
@thecollectorgarage9912 Жыл бұрын
I owned an S4 before but GTS really is worth waiting for
@andydhillon1977 Жыл бұрын
Good video. Such a beautiful car. I'm hoping to get a project 928 soon.
@Zzus321 Жыл бұрын
The supply line shortages has driven manufacturers from supplying older parts
@MathewWellington2 жыл бұрын
Small world, my 87 928 is also ex singapore, and I own it in New Zealand
@tkong888 Жыл бұрын
Having owned both, yes, GTS is a better car than the S4, but not to the extent that you advertise. For the money, I would say that the S4 is a better value.
@sebastianm.83832 жыл бұрын
I find the retrofitted double exhaust made of stainless steel interesting....
@thecollectorgarage99122 жыл бұрын
did ssound better than my standard black one / but the bumper was very well engineered and presented as oem zand would be very hard to replicate
@hamm9282 жыл бұрын
White is one of the best 928 colors.
@luckyluciano79952 жыл бұрын
Nice car,and movie
@mykevenable81802 жыл бұрын
Like it in white !
@mrfrdman2 жыл бұрын
Very Nice :)
@kanamekiyru2 жыл бұрын
What happened for it to get labeled bio
@marklangren3142 Жыл бұрын
I prefer my GT
@giannirocco74922 жыл бұрын
Thinking of selling my 928S4 manual transmission model!If interested just leave a comment!
@fritzmuller82469 ай бұрын
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@RtB682 жыл бұрын
...I see it's no longer listed. Did you sell it or withdraw it from sale???
@thecollectorgarage99122 жыл бұрын
HI - no car sold to top auction bidder - sold for $88K to an enthusiast in country NSW who is a 911 owner so hope he likes the long-legged feel of the 928GTS
@RtB682 жыл бұрын
@@thecollectorgarage9912 Thank you - I'd be grateful for your input - there is a gunmetal grey GTS for sale for $130k which I think is well over the fair asking price. What do you think would be a fair price, assuming it passes inspection. It doesn't look like it's 45k better than your white one.
@thecollectorgarage99122 жыл бұрын
@@RtB68 i think the white one was cheap - i only sold it as i have another, its black and I was bid 140 for the black one so i think around there is the new gts level, i think 120-140. My black one has 49,000kms
@thecollectorgarage99122 жыл бұрын
@@RtB68 i may have another one we can show you admin@thecollectorgarage.com
@stephenzeffert14932 жыл бұрын
How much are you asking for the white GTS?
@thecollectorgarage99122 жыл бұрын
www.thecollectorgarage.com auction ... may go cheap i hope not
@SAMMYJR007772 жыл бұрын
@@thecollectorgarage9912 should be around 70k to 90k remember it is a gts. they go no less than 60k usd. to 90k
@jeffreyb.16572 жыл бұрын
If manual, 928. If auto...go 911. My 2c. Wanted a 928 GTS manual....found a better solution that I'll leave off this thread but there are better options now out there in my opinion if reliability, looks, and even dynamics matter to you.
@RtB682 жыл бұрын
Yes, I've seen this one on carsales and it presents very well. I'm 'softly' looking at a 928 - and you raised the very question - "what are they worth". The thing that frightens me is the very real wallet raping potential it has in the event of a major failure. My marriage might survive the purchase, but to be met with a 20k transmission failure or something of that ilk might see me out on the street. The internet is awash with stories of repair bills of astronomical proportions and, to be honest...that always gives me a reason to not buy one.
@thecollectorgarage99122 жыл бұрын
yes, I think you have to remember when these were new they were highly advanced for the time and frighteningly expensive - and therefore you have to assume maintaining them today is not for the faint-hearted - but they are massively over-engineered and bulletproof if you get the right one Porsche 928 are the ultimate example of the cheapest one to buy is probably the one which costs the most upfront
@SAMMYJR007772 жыл бұрын
never buy a cheap beaten up 928 it will coast u tons.... always buy a nice clean mint one which will be at lest 35k to 50k area. and gts are more also. and have to maintained them each year than no issues. but it is a rich mans car so rem that.
@giannirocco74922 жыл бұрын
@@SAMMYJR00777 What?I'm thinking of selling my '88 S4 stick shift,it's in great condition and I would never ask that kind of price!
@nzrobinz2 жыл бұрын
If you buy the 928 people will say why didn't you get a 911 - I have two 911 so have the answer
@928pcar Жыл бұрын
Easy answer for those people. It’s a better car
@commantrosexetlos4700 Жыл бұрын
911 is way way less car than 928 5.4l..way less drove them both