Porsche Boxster S VS BMW Z4 - Which One Should You Buy?

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Ben Rayne

Ben Rayne

4 жыл бұрын

Hey guys my names Ben and welcome back to another video. Today I am joined by my friend Joel, in his BMW Z4 e85. Today we answer a question that I get asked a lot, which is which car do I prefer and which one I would recommend?
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@alexandervanwyk7669
@alexandervanwyk7669 4 жыл бұрын
I still own both of these although in the previous generations. The 2.8 Z3 and the 2.5 Boxster, both from 98. Both awesome cars. The BM's E36 motor is marvelous with that incredible low down torque. The Boxster really excels on the track and at high speeds much better, safer and more stable. BM now on 400 000 kms and Boxster only at 210000 kilometers. I purchased them second hand some 10 years ago and they still retail for the same monies or slightly more. Both incredible cars and with you tube's how to-videos,easy and fairly cheap to maintain. IMS issues on the Boxster were just plain bullsh!t. These cars are literally the best fun with your pants on. Thanks guys for an excellent upload.
@Riley_1955
@Riley_1955 3 жыл бұрын
I own a 99 boxster base 2.5L with 47,000 miles and it is a lovely car to drive.....I did major research before buying it and have come to the same conclusion about the IMS issue.....And since mine has the double bearing which is in the 1% failure rate anyway I'm just going to drive it and not worry about it.
@clu4u
@clu4u 2 жыл бұрын
05 Boxster S here, 140,000 miles of smiles. I modded it for 300+ hp. Traded in on a 981 Spyder last year😹
@brianroberts8938
@brianroberts8938 4 жыл бұрын
Love the review from both of you, certainly make you consider the options with both cars.
@CarsofGlasgow
@CarsofGlasgow 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, having had the Z4 I would be keen to drive that generation of Boxster. I drove the 718 Boxster S and it rides soo flat round bends its unreal compared to the Z4
@scoutsgmods
@scoutsgmods 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect video, Been looking at both of these
@tb6234
@tb6234 2 жыл бұрын
Back box delete + quad conversation in my Z4 sounds incredible.
@sheldontaylor82
@sheldontaylor82 2 жыл бұрын
The Boxster acceleration traits sounds very similar to the Porsche 944 Turbo I used to own: it was pretty tame in the low revs, but once you passed 3000 revs all hell broke loose! Great video mate, I’m actually looking at buying a Boxster S, so your insight and review is very much appreciated!
@jamesross2373
@jamesross2373 Жыл бұрын
The 944 S2 I used to own was the same. Hit 3000rpm and the power just hit hard. Not much below that, it was like flipping a switch. Very fun.
@ferryporsha7401
@ferryporsha7401 4 жыл бұрын
The 987 came out in late 2004 which was a complete redesign (not just a facelift of the previous 986) with the S having a 3.2. In 2006 they enlarged the S engine to 3.4 producing 295bhp no other changes. The facelift model was in fact the 987 Gen2 which came out in 2009 featuring a new type of 3.4 DFI engine producing 310bhp. Also the Gen2 had a newer & better auto-gearbox which was the PDK! 3.2S 0-60mph was 5.2secs; 0-62mph (100kph) was 5.5secs with a top speed of 167mph 3.4S 0-60mph was 5.1secs; 0-62mph (100kph) was 5.4secs with a top speed of 168mph 3.4S Gen2 0-60 was 5.0secs; 0-62mph (100kph) was 5.3secs with a top speed of 170mph All figures quoted above are for the manual gearbox. As I mentioned previously Ben, the Milltek Sport exhaust (rear cat delete), not only makes a great sound (deeper & meatier) & introduces some pops & crackles too (not that loud) but it does bring a sense of occasion on deceleration but the torque curve is spread across a wider range & you get some more power. It really transforms the car & the tail pipes look great too! I bought a 2006 987S as a sort of project car so I can tell you that the Milltek transforms the drivability & makes gear changes far less frequent when crusing around. I found it also opens up the performance in that the car feels more responsive across the rev range & more exciting to drive; a worthwhile investment.
@clu4u
@clu4u 2 жыл бұрын
I put a Milltek full exhaust on my 05 Boxster S along with ECU tune, LWF, under drive pulley, ECU tune, Bilsteins
@WildDigger
@WildDigger Жыл бұрын
Great comparison. I will search and see if you guys did a comparison on maintenance and DIY repairs.
@itsjoel
@itsjoel 4 жыл бұрын
Great video mate. I massively approve of your purchase, nicely done!
@alexandramckiee
@alexandramckiee Жыл бұрын
Nice to see on Joel's KZbin channel that he's finally seen the light and bought a Boxster too...
@TomLongusa
@TomLongusa 4 жыл бұрын
That low end politeness of the Porsche is what makes it a nice daily driver. You only need to push a little and it comes alive...
@FoundByPolice
@FoundByPolice 4 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the inevitable straight piped exhaust video 👀😂
@dismasjoseph7313
@dismasjoseph7313 4 жыл бұрын
Good video - you both present well together 👌👍
@iskillcorn1
@iskillcorn1 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed that one! I’d like to test drive a boxster to see the differences for myself, the boxster would be one car I’d consider buying after my e85 but my only worry would be buying a bad example and having the repair costs! Both excellent cars for the money looking forward to more videos with the boxster
@be1441
@be1441 4 жыл бұрын
Feel free to drive mine any time matey
@coaldust01
@coaldust01 4 жыл бұрын
Mate the next step from the e85 is an e89 35i with a remap. Looks better and would eat the boxster s for breakfast.
@glennduers6148
@glennduers6148 2 жыл бұрын
Good review guys I got the 3.4 slightly later boxster not a great deal difference in power but love Z4 as well, but have to admit u can't beat the go kart rawness of a boxster, no badge snobbery either, invest in one of these drive it for few years take care you will still make a profit, you can't put money on smiles per galleon 😁
@toms_garage
@toms_garage 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Ben! I have always been curious about that generation of Porsche Boxster
@CarsofGlasgow
@CarsofGlasgow 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Ben, gave your video a wee like ;)
@ianedmonds9191
@ianedmonds9191 3 жыл бұрын
My Mr2 had a step at 5500 rpm. It had an ACIS header on the throttle. It would noticeably step up at 5500 rpm. The exhaust hardened and the engine made more torque and HP. That engine made 174hp at the top end. Makes really crap torque below 5500 rpm. The MR2 only went up to 7250 rpm so in most driving it's gonna be left behind on acceleration tests. I got left behind briefly by a 320i owned by a friend a few years back. It just took off ahead of me got it caught it up. Ended up owning that e46 320I. Loved it. I guess the moral of the story is it's not about the top power you can put out but about the power under the graph over the whole rev range. The BMW 320i with 170bhp was quicker than the MR2 at 174bhp because the BMW made more power sooner and for longer. The Mr2 had a very peaky power curve. Area under the graph is the true measure of power and speed. I learnt my lesson. Luv and Peace.
@daysofgrace2934
@daysofgrace2934 2 жыл бұрын
I have 987.2 Boxster in Basalt black with the 19 inch Sport Design alloys in Satin Platinum, PASM + DSC v1, PSE, PDK, Sport Chrono, Sport Seat Plus & Sat-nav/bluetooth, have to say I like the first and second generation Z4s, beautiful looking cars...
@zahemi914
@zahemi914 4 жыл бұрын
I watched Joel's video when he bought his Z4, both are great cars...only i think Z4 is a bit kinder and merciful to the wallet...
@baptistepholoppe5409
@baptistepholoppe5409 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as always i enjoy watching both of your content. Tho i would argue a bit in favor of the Z4 (nothing to do with the fact that i have one o swear) the Porsche does seems nice for sure and maybe she is a bit more fun to drive. But these two cars let's be honest are kinda cheap now and the BMW will be a lot easyer to Maintain that the Porsche because parts are cheaper and working on the front engine is waaaay simpler than in the mid engine of the Porsche who often are money pits... that + gas mileage beeing a bit better on the Z4 i would say that if you want a fun car but you can't afford to go to the dealer every few month because something went bad ... i would definitly say the Z4 is best. If you don't care much for money then go for the porche But anyway great video and @Joel Z4 dies a bit higher RPM stock you can change that by having a stage 1 reprog on it for around £400 that will make it that much more enjoyable :)
@AndyC3.0
@AndyC3.0 4 жыл бұрын
If it was a Z4 M I would say the m car. I drive a 3.0 SI Z4 coupe with an upgraded M suspension and it's absolutely amazing , however I have driven a Porsche Boxster S as well and I got to tell you it was much tighter n the corners than the BMW. Although they are both roadster's they both have a very different feel about them anyway you choose you won't be disappointed!
@be1441
@be1441 4 жыл бұрын
Completely agree 🙌
@marksmith-nx8kg
@marksmith-nx8kg 2 жыл бұрын
Careful about the M. The non M handles better! The M is just faster on a racetrack...who cares! I drove both many times and z4 hands down.
@ianedmonds9191
@ianedmonds9191 3 жыл бұрын
I had an mr2 that was mid engined. I'd say I could approach a bend more quickly in the Z4. I've driven a 3.2 s Boxster too. It felt pretty solid but I'd not want to throw it around. Z4 feels a little more handleable. Luv and Peace.
@wungabunga
@wungabunga 4 жыл бұрын
z4 as a daily is very easy to live with. The engine is a peach. Very linear power delivery.
@theequaliser8026
@theequaliser8026 3 жыл бұрын
Great review, I've owned both these cars and found them to be totally different from that silky smooth Bmw z4 6 cylinder to the more aggressive power plant of the flat 6 Porsche, both great cars to drive Z4 a lovely cruiser tends to tram line a little, the Porsche is definitely the bad boy.
@jsmeswagner6104
@jsmeswagner6104 2 жыл бұрын
I have also. the Porsche was noisy and rickety. the interior fel cheap and unwelcoming. the wheels were no frills. very anemic on power. wing only worked when it wanted to. headlights were glazed and clear coat was fading in the corners. at 77k the engine had a catastrophic failure. out 19000 dollars. the z4 looks better. the leather was better quality. better ride. better sound going down the road. I think the z4 was a world apart from the porsche
@marksmith-nx8kg
@marksmith-nx8kg 2 жыл бұрын
Get rid of the run flat tires. My 2007 z4 3.0si is way more fun than my 911 that I got rid of. Plus it looks so much better than the boxster. Roar is much better as well. To this day I smile every single time I drive it. Z4 is the baddest.
@ianedmonds9191
@ianedmonds9191 Жыл бұрын
@@marksmith-nx8kg Makes me think. I love my Z4 2.5si. The noise of it, the looks of it and the sublime balance when I'm really pushing on. As I've said above I had an MR2 for many years and whilst not as fast as the z4 it felt more dynamic in the corners. It was like a go-cart when on tight B roads and could carry so much speed. My feeling is I want that mid engined feel back but with a powerplant like the Z4. My Z4 is 218bhp. The idea of a 280bhp boxster 3.4S is very appealing as the best of both worlds. I have to say the N52 engine is the best engine of any car I've ever had. It's quite torquey low down but it does build relentlessly to over 7000. And it does scream sonorously. Crazy good fun at even legal speeds. I understand where you're coming from Mark. Luv and Peace.
@markgardiner1742
@markgardiner1742 3 ай бұрын
How would the boxster fair against the upgraded z4. The e 86. Im torn between a 2002 boxter or a 2010 or 2011 z4.
@paultasker7788
@paultasker7788 4 жыл бұрын
My dad used to have a 986s then the 987s boxster. Loved the noise, power and handling but the older 986 was my favourite as it was a bit more raw and exhaust sounded even better. It felt more frightening yet somehow still safe when driven hard. It's been replaced by an Slk 55 AMG which sounds like thunder, and throws you back in your seat. Great fun but it's so fast you can only enjoy that mega sound briefly unless on a track and doesn't handle quite as well with that massive engine up front. The first boxster was slow enough to let you enjoy the noise for that much longer. But maybe it has a memory because it's the first time I experienced a porsche and thus surprised me that bit more. Lucky enough to drive all 3. Never a z4 but BMWs 6s are nice and like you say but nicer as a daily drive. More civilised though watch BMWs in the wet as traction can be an issue.
@paultasker7788
@paultasker7788 4 жыл бұрын
I'd quite like something that accelerates like a 1.5 litre mx5 but sounds like a boxster when doing so!
@mrradman2986
@mrradman2986 3 жыл бұрын
Spot on, I have a 2004 3.2S. I upgraded the IMS bearing for the EPS version which has a 5 year warranty. It just drives like a car built by a company with multiple le Mans wins should. I wouldn't bother with a Z4, even an old S2000 if you can find one would be better.
@xtv4579
@xtv4579 3 жыл бұрын
I like both car
@westonlangdon8694
@westonlangdon8694 4 жыл бұрын
Had a z4 3.0 smg and now got boxster s Z4 way to light on the rear but smg box was fun Boxster s is planted on the road no traction control but dont need it Boxster better car all round in my eyes
@mattdownes4771
@mattdownes4771 Жыл бұрын
Maintenance costs overall ? I would expect the Porsche upkeep to be a fair bit more.
@imihussain1781
@imihussain1781 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely a better comparison would be the Porsche with the 3.0si engine much closely matched in speed and price Great video nonetheless and enjoyed watching it.
@dennisdoodan9348
@dennisdoodan9348 4 жыл бұрын
I have an '06 3.0 si and love it. Bought it last year.
@vbstein
@vbstein 4 жыл бұрын
both great cars. Joel's z4 does have 150k mileage which might affect his car, wonder how the porsche would compare to lower mileage z4.
@charleslu7044
@charleslu7044 3 жыл бұрын
I have 145,000 on my 05 Boxster S. Compression tested #1 cyl 160lbs, #2 cyl 160lbs, #3 cyl 160Lbs, #4 cyl 160lbs, #5 cyl 160lbs, #6 cyl 160lbs.
@adycooke5925
@adycooke5925 4 жыл бұрын
With the age of the cars ( not that’s a problem, because i have an 2002 E46 330ci convertible ) i would go for the Z4, as its easy to work on the engine when things go wrong and they do. Easy repair for anyone that likes hands on, but not so good for the Porsche i would have thought. Still both nice cars
@ianedmonds9191
@ianedmonds9191 Жыл бұрын
The newer gen 1 Z4s got the N52 which is an amazing engine. Mine is proving to be reliable too. 90,000 miles now and Thrashed it to death and serviced it every year. Same story with my E46 with the M54 engine. I got 15oK out of that engine only having to replace the coolant reservoir... Shitty plastic. Other than that I replaced the spark plugs and that's about it. I had to take the passenger seat out and replace the occupancy sensor when that failed because the seatbelt light came on. EBay £30 and maybe an hour of labour. It took one custom tool from Halfords at £20 or so for the weird BMW star screws. All in all if you can turn a wrench old BMWs are really not the nightmares people make them out to be. Your biggest enemy is rust on the wings. New pattern part wings are easy to get so FFS don't scrap an E46 because the wings are rusty. £200 will see you fixed right up. Rattle can sprays if you take your time will look way better than it looks now. Don't let perfection get in the way of progress. My 2002 E46 was a very high spec individual colour with orange flecks though metallic purple (Tourmaline Violet) with an extended leather interior of Nappa leather Blackberry. (purple) I loved that car. It was only a 2.2i six cylinder but it was an amazing car. Luv and Peace.
@thefilmandmusic
@thefilmandmusic Жыл бұрын
I have a 987s work all over Europe , I can get 3 guitars, clothes bag, keyboard bag , lap top… let’s see you do that in BMW .. The Box is a joy
@mrkongsimr
@mrkongsimr 2 жыл бұрын
Nice cars , it looks like the Boxster is easier to get into , or am I wrong ? (Disable) Thanks !
@alfredocastellanos1529
@alfredocastellanos1529 2 жыл бұрын
great video
@romainrateltv8640
@romainrateltv8640 10 ай бұрын
i'm planning to own one of these in the near future and my opinion is that the Z4's line is timeless compared to the Porsche's
@ianedmonds9191
@ianedmonds9191 2 жыл бұрын
The front end turn-in is gonna way better on the BMW than the Porsche. You can take liberties in turn in on the Z4. A mid engined car will not turn in anywhere near as quick without understeer. A mid engined car can be powered out of a corner quicker. It gets grip much quicker on a corner. Porsches are very long geared. BMWs are very neutrally geared. My BMW Z4 2.5si is great fun up to 60 and it does build power until redline. I'm gonna swap my Z4 2.5si for a Porsche Boxster 3.4 s I used to have an MR2 and I loved the scalpel like driving characteristics of that car. I've loved my z4 2.5si but I'm looking forward to the Porsche S. Luv and Peace.
@mostirreverent
@mostirreverent 3 жыл бұрын
Covered storage just makes everything look so much nicer. Nothing worse than seeing crap in those door bins.
@lrmcatspaw1
@lrmcatspaw1 4 жыл бұрын
I dont know about you guys, but when someone talks about cars, Audi R8, Corvette Z06, Mustang Fastback...I love talking about them and saying "this one is awesome, but...." Then there is Porsche. Somehow Im still not sure what to put after the But. cus that is where the engine is.
@cutsomeone
@cutsomeone 3 жыл бұрын
Can we teach this guy to rev match?! (Speaking telepathically in the voice of the z4)
@theworldsyourlobster1583
@theworldsyourlobster1583 4 жыл бұрын
The z4 is a nice car but mid engine balance all the way , you have to really work the engines on the boxsters basically thrash the shit out of them get them ,on song they are great back lane sports cars ... I would fined a boxster a bit hard work for everyday driving they are a bit raw , I’m sure the Z4 would be a better daily , you have explain this very well , most people are buying boxsters for weekend cars , on my second 987 boxster started with a 2.7 manual now have a 3.4 pdk love it , got my Pruis for daily and work lol People say don’t you hate getting out the boxster and driving the Prius ? To be fair I actually love the Prius it’s like sitting on a soft sponge after driving the boxster with rock hard suspension... but there again when you get back in the the boxster it’s like being in the space shuttle lol
@supercarkingdom
@supercarkingdom 4 жыл бұрын
Get that back box deleted, you won't regret it ;) Such a sick sounding engine! Also recommend getting some lowering springs, mines pretty low, but gives it way more presence and stiffens it up a little without being uncomfortable.
@be1441
@be1441 4 жыл бұрын
Got some h&r 35mm springs in my watch list 👀 definitely needs to be lowered, the arch gap is horrendous
@supercarkingdom
@supercarkingdom 4 жыл бұрын
@@be1441 Sick man!! It honestly transforms the stance of the car, mine actually looks low enough to scrub everywhere but it only tends to over speed bumps!
@georgeluyckx1437
@georgeluyckx1437 4 жыл бұрын
You don’t see a Z4 that often as a Porsche so it makes the Z4 more unique. But they are both good looking sports cars. I wish people would drive them more again instead of these bulky SUV’s now.
@biggerbitcoin5126
@biggerbitcoin5126 3 жыл бұрын
The lure of that badge though....I mean I actually tried to pull this girl once.....she literally said to me "I have a boyfriend" and even though I don't own a Porsche for some reason I said "shame I wanted to give you a lift in my Porsche"....she then said to me "You know I don't even like my boyfriend".....I then said "I'm only joking". I will always remember that conversation though.
@josekanucee1428
@josekanucee1428 3 жыл бұрын
I have two bimmers with the M54 engine. E46 & E53. Engine is my least worry with the cars. Just mind the cooling system.
@michaelli9516
@michaelli9516 4 жыл бұрын
Ben wait till the car goes wrong,you will wish you had your bmw bud,had one so so expensive.great vid boys .
@MrRoyck10
@MrRoyck10 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Li...so true, there is nothing in between the two cars in terms of normal driving but the prohibitive running cost of Porsche is just a deterrent form my future ownership of the prestige marquee. My Z4 3.0 Si coupe is easy on my wallet, looks better than the Cayman equivalent IMO and I will relish the prospect of meeting 3.2 boxster at the traffic light as the straight six will sing. Porsche got the upper hand though. 🤗
@wind016
@wind016 4 жыл бұрын
The 987 with replaced IMS is a much more reliable car than a BMW
@fire_watch7735
@fire_watch7735 9 күн бұрын
@@wind016Nope… bore-scoring. Porsche has advised its SA’s they aren’t allowed to sell this era of preowned Boxsters or 911’s for that reason.
@wind016
@wind016 9 күн бұрын
@@fire_watch7735 My 987 went 150k miles no problem. All it needed was a water pump. My 335i had failed turbo, failed fuel pump, and melted engine tubes by 80k miles. Some 987s might get bore scoring, but they are rare and there are fixes.
@fire_watch7735
@fire_watch7735 9 күн бұрын
@@wind016 The engine rebuild costs more than the car. Porsche SA’s aren’t allowed to sell them preowned. It’s a problem. Some experience it later in their life but if they go in long enough, bore scoring is an issue. It can also happen early on in their life as well. Great car, but they have a fundamental issue that’s never been resolved.
@MrRoyck10
@MrRoyck10 4 жыл бұрын
Good comparison, as rightly acknowledged the Z4 30Si would be more ideal in the bhp department, but the Boxster may have a displacement advantage. I noticed from my ownership of both z4 3.0 and the updated Z4 coupe 3.0 Si, the latter is very light as the engine is magnesium, if am right, bonnet and boot are aluminium so the power to weight seems good. Nice content.
@rotorblade9508
@rotorblade9508 2 жыл бұрын
Is it lighter than 1270kg (3.0i) ??
@caroad2008
@caroad2008 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing beats the physics of a mid-engine car. When it spins with the driver as the axis, it is so much fun.
@hoen2009
@hoen2009 4 жыл бұрын
@Chris A Welp yes i agree, but in the netherlands the 987 boxster is expensive as fuck compared to the z4.
@ianedmonds9191
@ianedmonds9191 2 жыл бұрын
Actively looking for 08+ boxster S now. Z4 was a lot of fun but I missed the MR2s scythe like approach to corners. 3.4s Boxster will be even better. Big Props to the 06 2.5si Roadster though. Lots of fun for 3 years. Fast enough to leave anything for dead on the twistys. Especially SUVS up in the highlands. (up to 60+ every straight then 40 mph through the corners.. Makes it very hard to overtake but you're still held up.) - Curse those bastards. Very comfortable in motorway traffic. Very comfortable too once you swap out the shit tyres they come with. Luv and Peace.
@milchomarkov8158
@milchomarkov8158 2 жыл бұрын
Please define that scythe like approach - new to boxster, kinda struggling to figure out that mid engine handling approach in corners.
@ianedmonds9191
@ianedmonds9191 Жыл бұрын
@@milchomarkov8158 You can drive into a corner much faster than you could in a rear engined RWD car. It will change direction and you can get on the power earlier because the weight transfer is much more yours to control. If you accelerate at the apex or just before the weight will move to the back and provide loads of grip to bolt out of the corner maintaining much more momentum than Front engined cars. The bugbear of mid engined cars is going into the corner fast, turning in then realising you are carrying too much speed. Your instinct is to lift or brake but that would be a disaster. Instead you have to commit plant the throttle and handle the oversteer and exit quick again. If you slow down after the apex the back of the car will have more momentum than the front of the car and it will skid and continue rotating forwards. Typically inexperienced drivers counter steer at this point then once a bit slower the rear gains grip and the angle is towards the side of the road and you catapult off into a field or a tree or something. That gets called a Tank Slapper. While your learning mid engine go in a bit slower than you think is the limit. You can still punch it on the way out and make time. Over time you can test the boundaries but when you've already drilled in the mashing the pedal at the apex you're a lot less likely to crash. It's all about weight transfer and grip. Worth looking at the theory a bit. Luv and Peace.
@GuardsRed996
@GuardsRed996 4 жыл бұрын
Great cars, I have test driven them both but ended up with a TTRS
@be1441
@be1441 4 жыл бұрын
Great choice I fancy one
@GuardsRed996
@GuardsRed996 4 жыл бұрын
Ben Rayne yes, I love it but I‘m still dreaming about owning a Porsche.
@becauseiwasinverted7971
@becauseiwasinverted7971 3 жыл бұрын
How can the difference in engine placement make the bmw feel like its pulling you while porsche feels like its pushing?🤔 They are both RWD.
@PloWarrior1
@PloWarrior1 4 жыл бұрын
I have the 3.0si and it’s a wicked thing, and closer in performance- drove the boxter too before I bought the beemer. The Porsche was much easier to drive on the limit and some might say to easy, but imo the bm is more thrilling for that exact reason.
@timshaw8187
@timshaw8187 8 ай бұрын
Doesn’t have cruise control, on a sports car ???
@banpowel9784
@banpowel9784 4 жыл бұрын
Bmw feels more plush inside, and feels better built
@jjperera3389
@jjperera3389 Жыл бұрын
With only 2 seconds going into this I can tell you it’s the Porsche
@ianedmonds9191
@ianedmonds9191 Жыл бұрын
Handling happens after the limit of grip is reached before that you are talking about grip and turn-in. The Boxster probably does handle well but you never got near testing that in this test. Don't conflate handling with road holding. Two completely separate measurements in a car.
@vraelatao2264
@vraelatao2264 4 жыл бұрын
Since you had the 987 3.2s, a much better comparison would have been the z4 265si. Because even though they have the same age, the z4 you tested is basically the same since 2003, while the 987 is an improved version of the 3.2 252hp 986 boxter S.
@be1441
@be1441 4 жыл бұрын
We mentioned that, but didnt have access to an si haha
@flexmaniac
@flexmaniac 3 жыл бұрын
@@be1441 Matched my Alpina Roadster S Z4 against a Boxster S on track - the Alpina just had the edge on acceleration and speed - but not by much..
@vintagetrk
@vintagetrk Жыл бұрын
I have a 2010 Z4 and would prefer it to the boxster. My Z4 has 302 hp and is the 35I Twin turbo.
@be1441
@be1441 Жыл бұрын
Great engine. I had the 35is and is still one of the best cars I’ve owned
@stona9222
@stona9222 Жыл бұрын
Need to compare the Boxter to the E86 M to be fair.
@BatDimen
@BatDimen 4 жыл бұрын
Always take the Porsche. They are more reliable and generally are better than BMW
@yannickandraschko1812
@yannickandraschko1812 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that is like comparing a Ferrari to an AMG. Simply not the same league
@coaldust01
@coaldust01 4 жыл бұрын
@@yannickandraschko1812 exactly. I mean amg's are built like a Swiss watch and Ferrari's are basically fast expensive Alfa Romeo's with the same build quality as a fiat. Who would compare those? 😃
@ianedmonds9191
@ianedmonds9191 4 жыл бұрын
No IMS bearing problems with BMWs. I've run an M54 to 150,000+ miles without any expensive problems. I almost bought a Porsche Boxster the thought of a cheap bearing failing an lunching my engine put me off. I'm now in an N52 IS engine Z4 and it's been sweet as a nut for 2 years with about 70,000 on it.
@anthonygillesse7242
@anthonygillesse7242 3 жыл бұрын
Mario no so Z4 much more reliable than Porche I’ve owned both and had a ims bearing go in the Cayman.Not fun.
@BatDimen
@BatDimen 3 жыл бұрын
@@anthonygillesse7242 Yeah, that would suck. The bearing issue lasted like 4-5 years but resolved back in 2005. In more current times, Consumer Reports has Porsche at the top 3 for the past several years in overall and reliability. BMW not so good and tons of recalls overall based again on Consumer Reports. This was one of the factors why I didn't go with one.
@nickmitchell5075
@nickmitchell5075 4 жыл бұрын
You've bought a great car. I've got a 3.4 also in black. Side vents and front vents are also going to be blacked out. And mate, you'll get a lot of looks and smiles off women, which is slightly uncomfortable if they're with their boyfriend! Lol
@nickmitchell5075
@nickmitchell5075 4 жыл бұрын
Also, have you joined any of the 987 pages on Facebook?
@be1441
@be1441 4 жыл бұрын
Not yet but I'll take a look
@Anthony-ym6iz
@Anthony-ym6iz 4 жыл бұрын
Better to compare with the new(ish) Z4 M40i - Just got mine - it's awesome!
@BigMattRob
@BigMattRob 4 жыл бұрын
Anthony a new m40i would kill the porsche 😂
@Anthony-ym6iz
@Anthony-ym6iz 4 жыл бұрын
Matt3667 It does. It’s 0-62MPH in 4.5. Faster in the U.S. too apparently. Great mix of technology, comfort and roadster.... although not the best time of year to buy one! First world problems!
@kevinpollard1550
@kevinpollard1550 3 жыл бұрын
Where is that road please anybody know
@metronum
@metronum 6 ай бұрын
Z4 look is unbeatable
@cameron4907
@cameron4907 4 жыл бұрын
Which one is cheaper to maintain and more reliable?
@skny2282
@skny2282 3 жыл бұрын
Z4
@nathangregory_
@nathangregory_ 4 жыл бұрын
What, storage behind the seats of the Z4? Please tell me where because I have the same car and I have absolutely NO storage behind my seats. Oh, and how about that GREAT glove box....lol.
@be1441
@be1441 4 жыл бұрын
Some z4s have a storage pocket behind each seats. However some cars have speakers instead
@nathangregory_
@nathangregory_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@be1441 OK, mine has speakers. But once again, how do you like that "Wall" glove compartment?
@joshferry3628
@joshferry3628 4 жыл бұрын
I love both of these cars. But the Porsche not being able to pop the hood or should I say easy access to engine is a big deal. If you are buying a mid 2000's Boxster or Z4 you need access to the engine. They WILL break. I love the Boxster but I do work on my own cars. That's the fun of it. The Boxster is scary in that department. With that being said. I am in love with the rawness of the Porsche. So honestly I am more confused after seeing this video. LOL! :)
@be1441
@be1441 4 жыл бұрын
Access to the engine is far more accessible than people think. To get to the belts, theres a removable panel behind the seats and to change coils/sparkplugs, you can acce6then through the wheel arches
@joshferry3628
@joshferry3628 4 жыл бұрын
@@be1441 I didn't know that everyone makes it seem impossible. Thanks for that info.
@joshferry3628
@joshferry3628 4 жыл бұрын
@@be1441 BTW Ben you're a bad influence! :) I have owned 2 BMW's, 3 VW's, 1 2009 Audi A4 that had catastrophic engine failure thank god I had the extending warranty. (Won't do that again). Don't you think Porsche is just a natural progression? I mean it is nature I am 50 years old it's time. :p Anyway, greetings from the USA Northern New England. Good video love both of those cars.
@arrek6773
@arrek6773 4 жыл бұрын
Porsche. Real sportscar
@Max-Bliss
@Max-Bliss 4 жыл бұрын
Lovely couple.
@be1441
@be1441 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@Tibbon
@Tibbon 4 жыл бұрын
I was debating a Z4M vs a Boxster. I ended up going with the Boxster, but the Z4M was really intriguing and seemed much better than the Z4
@A_Treat
@A_Treat 4 жыл бұрын
I've had 4 Porsche's and a few years ago felt the need for a convertible because I sold my 911 convertible in 2009. I looked at the Boxster S and it is a great car, but chose the Z4///M (E85) instead ... its GREAT! One of the best choices I ever made!
@Tibbon
@Tibbon 4 жыл бұрын
@@A_Treat Nice! I'm loving my 987 Boxster, but when it comes down to it, whatever car you enjoy is the right one!
@kevinisaac9139
@kevinisaac9139 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a 2.7 2003 boxster when I bought it had a sports exhaust on it I found at cruising I drummed so I changed it for a standard one much better now mine is a tiptronic
@Riley_1955
@Riley_1955 3 жыл бұрын
I own a 99 Boxster base 2.5L Tiptronic with stock exhaust and I love it.....Will not change a thing....I find it funny that most people complain they want a louder exhaust and change or drill holes or whatever to their exhaust and the first thing when asked about it is does it drone and the answer is always yes.....My stock exhaust sounds great looks great and has no drone.
@BubuBarong
@BubuBarong 4 жыл бұрын
Kind of kind of kind of
@seacronos7303
@seacronos7303 4 жыл бұрын
One big difference is that the Porche has an LSD on all models wich the Z4 does not. That for it self will settle it for me.
@seacronos7303
@seacronos7303 4 жыл бұрын
@5putput only the boxter S has it?
@SunLoverMan
@SunLoverMan 3 жыл бұрын
Z4m has LSD
@seacronos7303
@seacronos7303 3 жыл бұрын
@@SunLoverMan yes I know. Big difference from the others. I didn't know that only the Boxer S had it. Sorry for that.
@thedudeabides1443
@thedudeabides1443 3 жыл бұрын
That is incorrect. LSD is an option-and not a common one at that-on SOME Porsche models. The vast majority of Boxsters available DO NOT have LSD. It’s part of the PTV (Porsche Torque Vectoring) option. Good to have for the track, but otherwise, not necessary to really push these cars and have fun.
@evansanchez4767
@evansanchez4767 4 жыл бұрын
Ask car and driver what car they choose every year?
@williampotter2098
@williampotter2098 4 жыл бұрын
Whoever buys the most advertising ...
@lisachen1869
@lisachen1869 4 жыл бұрын
16:11 where did your passenger go?
@be1441
@be1441 4 жыл бұрын
Ejecto seato cuz
@user-xv5iw5zh4m
@user-xv5iw5zh4m 4 жыл бұрын
The boxster is mid engine? Well this may come as a shocker, but the z4 is also mid engine... The front mid engine layout has its advantages over the rear mid engine layout, and vice versa, just thought I'd let you know. And the light steering/clutch etc... Don't even get me started. The boxster has stiffer bushings, stiffer sway bars and harder shocks than the z, so it FEELS faster and aspires confidence. Just like slapping on a fart can makes you feel like you are driving a faster vehicle. In reality, if you take both cars to their limits, its going to be neck to neck if they have comparable power/tires, especially in the real world. So all that talk abut the boxster being a more sports car than the z is simply bening an engeneering and marketing deceit. The z is more comfortable, the boxster is rougher, thus more emotional. Different strokes for different folks. And yes, it would make sense to compare this boxster to an e89 35i, since they cost roughly the same. Or to an e85 with mods that place the cars in the same price league.
@ulisesavila2879
@ulisesavila2879 2 жыл бұрын
z4 is not mid engine, 2 cyl go past front suspension
@user-xv5iw5zh4m
@user-xv5iw5zh4m 2 жыл бұрын
@@ulisesavila2879 no shit? In a 4cyl engine? )
@ulisesavila2879
@ulisesavila2879 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-xv5iw5zh4m forgot about that version
@brightenupcc
@brightenupcc 11 ай бұрын
Foregone conclusion really. Everyone knew the outcome
@coaldust01
@coaldust01 4 жыл бұрын
Well the z4 is reliable. Mine has needed two throttle bodies from eBay £30 a pop and thats from 66000 miles to 117000 lol. I've had no issues from the roof because I always make sure the roof drain holes are clear. I did consider a boxster but pathetic repair costs put me off. And the fact that the engine can blow up if a certain nut comes loose lol. Also people know the boxster as a poor man's Porsche, the z4 does not have that stigma attached to it. Each to their own but mine looks better than any stock older boxster. Im lowered on staggered 19in with a few other cosmetic mods. My z4 looks like how it should of came from BMW looks like a beast. Ben's is the revised boxster so I do quite like it. But if you talking about the older one with older headlight then don't even compare that one to the z4 lol. Looks pure shit. But opinions are like arseholes we all have them. So each to their own. Drive which you prefer and be happy.
@rotorblade9508
@rotorblade9508 2 жыл бұрын
My long term mpg with the 3.0si is 12mpg, that 31mpg is impressive considering that the claimed combined is 27mpg and usually they eat more fuel than the claimed economy
@jasonwright1753
@jasonwright1753 2 жыл бұрын
Shocking result, a Boxster 987s that’s worth three times the z4 is the winner...
@christopherjhall
@christopherjhall 4 жыл бұрын
Good video. Terrible jacket
@okeyezeilo6187
@okeyezeilo6187 4 жыл бұрын
Should be comparing the Boxter S with the Z4 M...
@be1441
@be1441 4 жыл бұрын
Z4 M is way more powerful so wouldnt be fair either. Would have been closer matched against an SI but we dont have access to one unfortunately
@MrRoyck10
@MrRoyck10 4 жыл бұрын
The Z4 M is psychotic and why have a better edge on the 3.4 Boxster, the comparison ideally should be the 3.0 Si and Ben's 3.2 have the upper hand.
@gregnemcek3998
@gregnemcek3998 4 жыл бұрын
Fair? Is a comparison of the top Boxter trim to the not top trim Z4 fair?
@scottallan3327
@scottallan3327 4 жыл бұрын
What is a zed 4 ?
@be1441
@be1441 4 жыл бұрын
Guessing your American and say 'zee 4'?
@scottallan3327
@scottallan3327 4 жыл бұрын
Well yes I am American and if I'm not mistaken your alphabet just has the letter Z not Zedd so I don't quite understand what being American has to do with anything so I guess a zebra is spelled zeddzebra or how about zeddero 😂😁😃
@be1441
@be1441 4 жыл бұрын
@@scottallan3327 haha wasn't insulting you or anything mate 😁 love the different pronunciations between us brits and Americans
@scottallan3327
@scottallan3327 4 жыл бұрын
Oh I'm not mad nor was I insulted as a matter of fact I own a Boxster 2005 and absolutely loved your video. It was very cool
@be1441
@be1441 4 жыл бұрын
@@scottallan3327 haha that's good, just checking 😅
@jamestaylor7817
@jamestaylor7817 Жыл бұрын
Surely you need to mention prices??
@be1441
@be1441 Жыл бұрын
Irrelevant since that video as used car prices have shot right up. That Boxster I bought at the time for 8k was recently up for sale for 11k
@fire_watch7735
@fire_watch7735 9 күн бұрын
Four words regarding the Porsche… IMS and Bore-Scoring. It’s a shame because they are great car otherwise.
@horatiudanciu377
@horatiudanciu377 4 жыл бұрын
why only 2k subs...?
@be1441
@be1441 4 жыл бұрын
🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️
@peterpann9619
@peterpann9619 Жыл бұрын
The z4 has better styling.
@sonof69star
@sonof69star 4 жыл бұрын
Boxster will never be special. Just another Porsche. But E85 Z4 is the special one. The stepchild of the BMW family. Still looks mad beautiful, modern and stunning after more than a decade. Keep your boxsters and S2ks. I will roll with the E85 all day anyday.
@Ersy90
@Ersy90 4 жыл бұрын
Boxster will never be special? how old are you? you seem to know nothing about porsche. It saved them and got the porsche badge a big boom, also there is not just "another" porsche. No one can archive what they did. Even till today looking at nürburgring gt2rs or their newest taycan.
@evansanchez4767
@evansanchez4767 4 жыл бұрын
Keyword “Porsche”
@jsmeswagner6104
@jsmeswagner6104 2 жыл бұрын
stay away from the boxster. it's built with neon quality. the badge is the only reason this car is even talked about
@31acruz
@31acruz Жыл бұрын
The reason these videos fail is because they tell you everything you can look at a glance to a features sheet. And they spend literally no time on what you can not tell from a spec sheet: How the cars feel when you drive them. Rookie mistake and many, many, make it. These guys are not alone.
@dwightneisler3844
@dwightneisler3844 3 жыл бұрын
These cars are cheap enough, why not own both?
@be1441
@be1441 3 жыл бұрын
Not alot of people can afford to run both
@BubuBarong
@BubuBarong 4 жыл бұрын
Subtitle... "the sportscar or the BMW?"
@mrbritisher9748
@mrbritisher9748 4 жыл бұрын
Both great looking cars think the Z4 has more of a 'masculine' aesthetic to it Porsche Boxsters always strike me as a ladies car 🤷‍♂️
@Wallstreetavarice
@Wallstreetavarice 3 жыл бұрын
The Porsche, hands down. It's a better car in every way, unless you absolutely must have an FR
@charlzeelie604
@charlzeelie604 4 жыл бұрын
Bring a z4m e85 ... Yeah... no comparison
@be1441
@be1441 4 жыл бұрын
Future upcoming video
@ianreeve1420
@ianreeve1420 4 жыл бұрын
I'm confused. Are you asking which 15 year old car you should buy?
@be1441
@be1441 4 жыл бұрын
We were trying to advise people which car they should go for. However they are both great in their own way and it more or less depends on the persons budget/preference. Now that I've had the boxster for a longer period, I'd say it's way more engaging, quicker and more of an occasion compared to the z4. Hope this helped 😁
@arodg025
@arodg025 2 жыл бұрын
You look like the unfortunate siblings of Jensen Button and Max Verstappen
@be1441
@be1441 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@christopherlastname7638
@christopherlastname7638 4 жыл бұрын
The z4 is a girl's car they come standard with lepered print floor mats !
@nicorailey8435
@nicorailey8435 4 жыл бұрын
Eh idk I pooped on Porsche Boxsters with my 3.0si I wouldn’t say it’s faster lol
@wind016
@wind016 4 жыл бұрын
Bs. Whatever. Z4 handles terrible as well too and also unreliable
@xtheodoretv1830
@xtheodoretv1830 4 жыл бұрын
In Germany the z4 is a “Frauen Auto” that means it’s a car for girls. 😂 but z4 is a nice car
@scinner28
@scinner28 4 жыл бұрын
rofl dont give me the crap your 3.5si was slower etc .Porsche bla bla .Handeling wise maybe. power wise muhahaha.
@be1441
@be1441 4 жыл бұрын
My 35is had more power yes and was quicker yes, but wayyyy heavier was my point
@wind016
@wind016 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing beats a flat 6. If you want more power, Mustang can easily get 700+hp
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