Porsche Panamera 970 Buyers guide (2009-2016) Avoid buying a broken Panamera (TDI, V6, V8, Turbo)

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[@Suleimenoff]

The NA V6 in base model is not a VAG engine. It is a Porsche developed unit. The VAG developed one is in the Hybrid Panamera.

[@themilesdriven]

Good spot, the V6 is derived from the V8, the VR6 VAG engine goes in the Cayenne of the same age so it’s our mistake 👍

[@Alexi7666]

I just test drove a '14 Panamera Turbo V-6. Amazing power, good ride, fits my 6-5, 226 lb. frame but a few things nag at me: Valve tick. Sounds expensive to fix. Wheels and exhaust tips hadn't been detailed in years. The car had already been in two minor accidents. Exhaust smelled of unburned hydrocarbons. Showing 91,000 miles. Three previous owners, none of whom seemed to loved the beast enough take better care of the motor. A LS460 of the same year and miles would have none of the issues.

[@adamharris2674]

@@Alexi7666Have you gone back and read what you typed? The only actual potential "defect" you even mention is valve tick. You are most likely hearing the Injectors which "ticking" is a normal sound in a DI system anyway. Everything else is condition related. So No LS460s are Ever neglected by their owners huh? lol

[@relic2279]

​@@Alexi7666 you test drove a single Panamera and recommend a Lexus instead, based on that one test drive? What if the Lexus had similar, expensive issues? What if the Lexus owner was equally negligent? I can promise you it would be equally expensive. The Panamera is on par, or in some cases, cheaper to maintain than the S-class and Lexus.

[@Alexi7666]

@@relic2279 : I was quoted $600 just to change the air filter in a V-6 Turbo Panamera. The front bumper has to come off to change the air filter. Been my experience with Lexus/Acura products that they will easily hit 200,000 miles with just the usual maintenance. I had a '99 Acura TL that went 294,000 miles with the original exhaust, A/C and power window controls. Yeah, a Panamera is sportier, has more panache, but that's an expensive ego trip.

[@j.martinez111]

❤❤❤ thank you guys for your viewing of Panamera i am thinking of a 2011 v6

[@sssyria]

best luxury sedan..i have owned lexus, bmw, merc and others..this one has no issues except for air suspension ..owned it for 5 years & 85,000 miles . nothing but oil changes

[@lexeep8405]

what year have u purcahsed and did u buy used or?

[@sssyria]

@@lexeep8405 2011 used 54k miles. Air suspension leak one side and coil packs at 87k miles. 5 years so far. No other issues Usually people who own it, take care of it.

[@PowerWash2022]

Thank you for the information. I'm currently looking at a 2015 gts for a road trip car.

[@themilesdriven]

Awesome! Have a great time 👍

[@bennyboyy7]

All of these things are pretty normal for all cars. Just keeping up with your maintenance is the problem I see. Nobody wants to when you're spending that much but that's how you keep cars for a long time. Just like us humans they need to eat and they want to eat parts and liquids.

[@sandycabesa8421]

Super review great work

[@themilesdriven]

Really appreciate comments like this 👍

[@bsmitley]

Door lock actuator issues. I've had every door fail to some extent.

[@MitchCopley]

We have an Audi with the same problem. If you disassemble and clean them, it usually fixes the issue. Carbon buildup was the issue on all 4 of our Audi doors.

[@bsmitley]

@@MitchCopley good to know. Thanks!

[@morstyrannis1951]

@@MitchCopley how do you get carbon build up on a door mechanism?

[@MitchCopley]

@@morstyrannis1951 Degrading grease and dust

[@mindbodyandsoul81]

What would be the generation and year to go with that was built well and had the least amount of fixes on parts, im in north america

[@thabangmokoena1511]

Good day guys, I am on the a verge of buying a Porsche panamera 2014 4s, what should I look out for and is it a good idea mechanically speaking? Your urgent response will be highly appreciated…

[@themilesdriven]

Check out the common fault areas in the guide and the 4s in the engine section, these are the main areas worth looking out for on a possible purchase 👍

[@orologiaccionemo2088]

Se la prendi con spirito collezionistico fa bene ,quel propulsore si rivalutera nel tempo ,per un uso assiduo invece te lo sconsiglio ,è un motore delicato il benzina e con tanti km può avere problemi alle canne dei pistoni ,anche il Pasm è suscettibile di difetti con tanti km per il resto è un auto bellissima e fantastica da guidare ,specie il benzina .

[@vladandrei51]

Do 3.6 panameras suffer from the cam bolt issue?

[@MrBdavis99]

Yes. The timing chains and cam gears are identical to the V8.

[@vladandrei51]

@@MrBdavis99 Sold it for the V8, the difference is almost comical.

[@Petrolawe_Q8]

3.6 v6 Panamera 4 970 i always hear the timing chain for a sec in low speeds with windows down or when i push the gas pedal slightly to rev .. but after 120k milage .. i think it will continue to hit 300k with no problems

[@LudmilMetodiev]

Panamera 3.6 is not VR6 but it is true V6

[@drunvert]

Once they got rid of that ugly rear end, it became one of my favs

[@panorari]

A Porch is something to sit on in front of your house.

[@johnsp3469]

Is the 2011 Panamera 4 970 a good Panamera to start with?

[@2011hwalker]

I wouldnt get one until at least the first revision in 2013. The first generation is unquestionably rather ugly at the rear of the car. They got better and better from 2013 onwards.