Porsche Reinvents The Brake Rotor - No Rust, Low Dust, No Fade!

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Engineering Explained

3 жыл бұрын

Porsche Surface Coated Brakes (PSCB) are a brilliant new brake technology.
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Porsche Surface Coated Brakes have a thin layer of tungsten carbide on the outside of the rotor. This tungsten carbide layer means no rust, significantly less brake dust, and they don't have brake fade typical of cast-iron brake rotors. The tungsten carbide layer is applied using high velocity oxygen fuel spray, and provides a rotor that lasts about 30% longer than traditional iron rotors. Better performance comes at a price, but they're about 1/3 the cost of carbon ceramic rotors. These PSCB rotors come standard on the Porsche Cayenne Turbo and Cayenne Coupe Turbo. Check out the video to learn all about Porsche's world-first brakes!
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@the_perigoso
@the_perigoso 3 жыл бұрын
I'm an 11 on Mohs hardness scale after you pull out the whiteboard
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 3 жыл бұрын
You win best comment! 😂
@MikeeCZ
@MikeeCZ 3 жыл бұрын
@@EngineeringExplained of all time :D
@SangheiliSpecOp
@SangheiliSpecOp 3 жыл бұрын
Take my damn like
@the_perigoso
@the_perigoso 3 жыл бұрын
ahah thanks!
@italian_stang
@italian_stang 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahah. You da best
@robmonthie9948
@robmonthie9948 3 жыл бұрын
“Engineers have no feelings, so no feelings were hurt.” Truest statement ever uttered!!!
@THEGAMINGHELP101
@THEGAMINGHELP101 3 жыл бұрын
As an engineer I can assure you there are plenty of bad engineers and scientists. Don't trust them all.
@THELOWBACKPAIN
@THELOWBACKPAIN 3 жыл бұрын
Tell that to the prima donnas at my work places lol
@akadoublea
@akadoublea 3 жыл бұрын
@humandxp nope. Empathy is the logical conclusion to a mental equation that replaces x=them with x=me
@sheshd
@sheshd 3 жыл бұрын
Not only that. You will be amazed at the responses you'll get returned. If you wanna get ripped a new one, go argue with an engineer! Aussie engineering school was honestly one of the most hilarious experiences of my life!
@robosullivan704
@robosullivan704 3 жыл бұрын
@@THEGAMINGHELP101 As an engineer, I totally agree
@kittenisageek
@kittenisageek 3 жыл бұрын
Loved the "They didn't realize engineers don't have feelings" line. I once took a psych class titled "Introduction to Personality." The professor was getting frustrated because this particular class was very quiet and not really responsive. From the front of the class he said, "Come on! Let your personalities show!" I slowly raised my hand and glanced around nervously, but.. when he called on me I said, "We're engineers, sir. We're here to learn what personality is."
@cesar19.5
@cesar19.5 2 жыл бұрын
👑👑👑😂😂😂
@microTrash28
@microTrash28 Жыл бұрын
Yes.
@apesintanks162
@apesintanks162 Жыл бұрын
Underrated comment 😅
@rosomak8244
@rosomak8244 11 ай бұрын
Engineers have a personality. The stable personality.
@pault6347
@pault6347 10 ай бұрын
@rosomak8244 "He's right you know"
@popdansergiu6598
@popdansergiu6598 3 жыл бұрын
Now I know why people with Porsche never brake in traffic, it is too expensive.
@stijnvandamme76
@stijnvandamme76 Жыл бұрын
Braking is not fuel efficient. I hate it, it contradicts my goal of getting somewhere fast
@kaefunq
@kaefunq Жыл бұрын
It's because they don't need to slow down for turns and you need to get out of the left lane.
@pault6347
@pault6347 10 ай бұрын
@stijnvandamme76 EXACTLY 😂😂😂
@JL-gg7ph
@JL-gg7ph 10 ай бұрын
The other way around....No they ride the brakes because they have too much power for civilian roads, and the aged owners get scared that the vehicle is moving too fast. These cars' potentials are wasted on most of the owners.
@harryh536
@harryh536 9 ай бұрын
​@@JL-gg7phwe don't buy cars to do what they can do, we buy cars to be happy knowing what they can do😊
@torontodriving
@torontodriving 3 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for "Engineers don't have feelings, so no feelings were hurt" XD
@evalonious
@evalonious 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Mini Brent Spinner!
@boleycs
@boleycs 3 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up, realistic response to 32k brakes!
@stuartlongden2415
@stuartlongden2415 3 жыл бұрын
It reminds me of one of my favourite engineer jokes, An optomist sees a glass that is half full, a pessimist sees a glass that is half empty, an engineer sees a glass that has been overspecified by a factor of 2.
@kBitre
@kBitre 3 жыл бұрын
sound logic has no remorse but the uneducated nannies should feel bad but they have no shame unless it's their peers
@knumbrrr6146
@knumbrrr6146 3 жыл бұрын
Eisan= 0 feelings :)
@miffedmax
@miffedmax 3 жыл бұрын
Jason will develop the first white board brakes. They will cost $20.00 and outperform carbon ceramics.
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 3 жыл бұрын
Plus, you can color on them!
@generaldistrust
@generaldistrust 3 жыл бұрын
the *true* "WhiteBrakes"
@nicholaslau3194
@nicholaslau3194 3 жыл бұрын
@@EngineeringExplained too bad the color becomes white every time you brake
@aidanapword
@aidanapword 3 жыл бұрын
@@nicholaslau3194 ah finally... Now I understand what brake-fade actually is then!
@tamerabk8925
@tamerabk8925 3 жыл бұрын
@@EngineeringExplained I want to see a video explaining wether or not whiteboard brakes are possible and if they are possible how good would they be, yall agree?
@gwot
@gwot 3 жыл бұрын
When I worked at a Jaguar dealer, we had a customer that tracks his F-type, for fun not competitively. He changed his pads and rotors 3 times due to wearing them down on track in just a few years... they were carbon ceramic brakes, and surprisingly they're the same price as Porsche's! he basically paid for the car again, but this time just in brakes. I think it would be cheaper to take a hit on depreciation and just trade in the car for a new one than to replace carbon ceramic brakes
@stephensheppard3501
@stephensheppard3501 3 жыл бұрын
@420 Friendly they are more concerned with selling new cars than worrying about repair of used cars, they also would not be paying that price for the repair anyways.
@subscribeowikd3336
@subscribeowikd3336 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@gwot
@gwot 3 жыл бұрын
@420 Friendly I wasn't in sales, reasons unknown to me, we check the cars for maintenance stuff after buying them, the used car dept pays for brakes/tires all the time.
@gwot
@gwot 3 жыл бұрын
@@stephensheppard3501 we do pay close to that actually, the mechanics still get paid the same amount, and our cost was only like 2k less than retail
@dbclass4075
@dbclass4075 10 ай бұрын
Due to that, some owners swap the pads to steel and then reinstall the original pads when it is time to sell the vehicle.
@CraftAero
@CraftAero 3 жыл бұрын
“Engineers don’t have feelings” I've been telling people this for YEARS, "I'm not broken, I'm an Engineer."
@stfu6397
@stfu6397 4 ай бұрын
GIGACHAD
@CraftAero
@CraftAero 4 ай бұрын
@@stfu6397 'strue!
@HartyBiker
@HartyBiker 3 жыл бұрын
Jason: Uses hammer to measure length. Me: "Ahh, I see you went to the Jeremy Clarkson school of engineering"
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 3 жыл бұрын
If it can't be fixed with a hammer, it's too complicated for me to understand!
@aidanapword
@aidanapword 3 жыл бұрын
You nailed it right there. Ah no, sorry... I am being a bit of a tool.
@ErebosGR
@ErebosGR 3 жыл бұрын
Should've used a banana. A hammer's length is too ambiguous. /s
@simontist
@simontist 3 жыл бұрын
Clarkson actually has an (honorary) doctorate in engineering if you can believe it.
@roy04
@roy04 3 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile May is still organizing his tools
@GsRandom.
@GsRandom. 3 жыл бұрын
"I'll put a white board anywhere" - Jason explaining aerodynamic mechanics while in a freefall during a parachute jump. 202X
@imyourmaster77
@imyourmaster77 3 жыл бұрын
Lets make it happen
@dadillen5902
@dadillen5902 3 жыл бұрын
That is one way to keep the presentation short.
@SniperReady
@SniperReady 3 жыл бұрын
Wait until he gets an onlyfans
@PlXELPUNK
@PlXELPUNK 3 жыл бұрын
@@SniperReady I've got $5 on it
@youkofoxy
@youkofoxy 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking: maybe he should throw a white board on his Miata. Imagine how much it would improve it's performance.
@friendslovecars
@friendslovecars 3 жыл бұрын
“That’s a level of baller I cannot comprehend” 💀💀
@HekiShavik
@HekiShavik 3 жыл бұрын
Hah, yeah, I liked that one too :D
@threedot141
@threedot141 3 жыл бұрын
This technology was used on bicycle rims for many years by a company called Rigida (renamed to Ryde). Their rims were called CSS (Cardbide SuperSonic - indicating the processes by which the tungsten carbide was applied to the aluminium rims. The wear rate was very low and the rims lasted much longer than normal aluminium rims. They did however suffer from brake squeal and somewhat inconsistent wet weather performance.
@JL-gg7ph
@JL-gg7ph 10 ай бұрын
And nobody bought them because the performance and cost surpassed the need.
@themechanicaladvantage
@themechanicaladvantage 10 ай бұрын
Great example and quite funny, Thank you for sharing.
@INeedAttentionEXE
@INeedAttentionEXE 3 жыл бұрын
“Engineers don’t have feelings” They lost them in college getting their degree
@kevinnorris6558
@kevinnorris6558 3 жыл бұрын
Jokes on you, I ended up changing my major
@dantheman1337
@dantheman1337 3 жыл бұрын
Sex can wait, I want to be an engineer
@Legend_Hunter_Original
@Legend_Hunter_Original 3 жыл бұрын
@@dantheman1337 @Dan E Garner lol its harder than you think...trust me I just got done lol
@joeyphoshowey
@joeyphoshowey 3 жыл бұрын
yeah. getting the degree is one challenge, getting a job and retaining it is another. School is the easy part. Engineering as a professional is tough work. Many of my friends graduated with engineering degrees and ended up getting jobs as contractors and engineering technicians. Had to work their way up into engineering positions.
@INeedAttentionEXE
@INeedAttentionEXE 3 жыл бұрын
@@joeyphoshowey Still is a rude awakening with how much homework you have to do compared to high-school or other college paths... so I'm told.
@ivanmontoya9774
@ivanmontoya9774 3 жыл бұрын
"How do you wake up in the morning?" me: 4:17
@damianpasfield4338
@damianpasfield4338 3 жыл бұрын
This needs more likes
@zefrum3
@zefrum3 3 жыл бұрын
Ha ha
@liberty744
@liberty744 3 жыл бұрын
😂 😂
@KvltKvnt
@KvltKvnt 3 жыл бұрын
My guy that genuinely made me laugh. Thank you
@KvltKvnt
@KvltKvnt 3 жыл бұрын
Who are you even replying to? No one is even talking about anything mechanical here at all
@philtechGT3
@philtechGT3 11 ай бұрын
Reaching 100.000km on my 2018 Porsche Cayenne S equipped with those PCBS brakes from factory and they still look like new (even with a lot of towing 2.2 tons). Disks look like new, brake pads are at approx 50%. I really like this technology
@jimscimonetti1457
@jimscimonetti1457 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are amazing. Thank you so much for making them. I appreciate your work and the way you explain this stuff.
@Balomis
@Balomis 3 жыл бұрын
"70% of brake dust actually comes from the rotors" I never would've guess that, I always assumed it was just the pads! Also, the best part about those price breakdowns, it that in 20 years when the Cayenne Turbo is worth like $10000 on the used market, the brakes will still cost $11000 to replace with OEM parts
@fuzzy1dk
@fuzzy1dk 3 жыл бұрын
makes no sense that 70% would be from the rotors, the data showed was 1500x the wear on pads vs. rotors on thickness, the rotors are no where near 1500x the area of the pads
@truantray
@truantray 3 жыл бұрын
Porsche says that. But his own data says pads wear 1500x greater than rotors, and dust comes from pads. Anyone knows dust difference between organic and semi metallic pads is huge. Also Porsche owners rarely buy their cars, they rent them, so they don't care about resale or any wear beyond 36-48 months.
@CED99
@CED99 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, if the pads wear 1500x the speed of the rotor, that's 1500 good reasons to expect the brake dust to be mainly pad
@Balomis
@Balomis 3 жыл бұрын
@@truantray I think y'all misunderstood EE, that "1500x" metric is specifically about the tungsten carbide rotors and the pads designed for them. Typical rotors are cast iron and the pads eat away at them significantly faster. Metallic pads actually produce more dust because they remove more material from the rotors, which is a byproduct of the increased braking performance.
@fuzzy1dk
@fuzzy1dk 3 жыл бұрын
@@Balomis the 1500x was for iron rotors
@snactimusmaximus
@snactimusmaximus 3 жыл бұрын
“I’ll put a white board anywhere” : absolute madlad
@betteryourselfforeverandever
@betteryourselfforeverandever 3 жыл бұрын
put it on a shirt!
@mackenziefinnegan9160
@mackenziefinnegan9160 3 жыл бұрын
Love it! The last minute was greatly appreciated, you're the man
@LetzHaveALook
@LetzHaveALook 3 жыл бұрын
Weeks ago saw these on a Porsche and then looked different and special. Thanks for explaining.
@jakobwest4811
@jakobwest4811 3 жыл бұрын
Those carbon ceramics cost more than my whole car to change.
@technobrend0
@technobrend0 3 жыл бұрын
32k could put you into a decent used Porsche too!
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 3 жыл бұрын
Same haha, more than my Crosstrek or my MX-5 new, or both of them combined at present value. 😳
@mutechipmunk4825
@mutechipmunk4825 3 жыл бұрын
Honey my brakes are squealing! Don't worry babe, just go down to the dealer and pick a new one out!
@Jackinacox
@Jackinacox 3 жыл бұрын
And not a crappy car either!
@marcd7332
@marcd7332 3 жыл бұрын
Brendan Yup, you can get a 2015 macan for 20k
@nicktune1219
@nicktune1219 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine trying to replace the brakes in 7 years and the insurance company totals your car.
@Dynoids
@Dynoids 3 жыл бұрын
Yooo RIGHT
@PigglyWigglyDeluxe
@PigglyWigglyDeluxe 3 жыл бұрын
Will this cayenne be worth less than $40k in 7 years?
@MyRuger
@MyRuger 3 жыл бұрын
@@PigglyWigglyDeluxe at only 51% insurance companies can claim totalled meaning will it be worth more than 80k in 7 years
@MT-mi4zz
@MT-mi4zz 3 жыл бұрын
I had an '83 Olds Cutlass that I always left unlocked. When someone asked me why I said "if they break into it by smashing a window, then it'll be totaled".
@truantray
@truantray 3 жыл бұрын
Or imagine the devaluation rate on this vehicle after 5 years.
@philipwatkins8157
@philipwatkins8157 10 ай бұрын
Brilliant - I love your character, demeanor and presentation, so professional in a concise and intelligible format (and of course interesting).
@dagandrefjeldstad3856
@dagandrefjeldstad3856 3 жыл бұрын
Lotus used Metal Matrix Composite (MMX) material for the brake disks on the 96' Elise. Mixing silica carbide into the aluminum gave the same hard surface. No wear, no dust, and excellent braking performance. The pad material attached itself to the rotor surface (a few micrometer thick), giving maximum adhesion friction, which you get if you have the same material on both surfaces. Material is constantly transferred between the disk and the pad back and forth during braking, resulting in the low wear of both pad and disk. The weight was as for aluminum, so very light compared to cast iron, reducing un-sprung mass. Aluminum conducts heat much better than cast iron and transfer the heat from the disk to the larger wheel mass and area. So temperature was about half of that for cast iron disks. Downsides were high production cost, and eventually metal fatigue issues from uneven thermal expansion of the different thickness of the boss and rotor when using such a hard and brittle material. Surface coating seems cheaper and better, except for the much higher mass of the brake disk with cast iron as base.
@mathiaskling6154
@mathiaskling6154 9 ай бұрын
Came to the comments just looking for someone to mention Lotus MMC brakes. Thank you!
@thatcopenguy
@thatcopenguy 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine buying a 2nd hand Cayenne in 10 years for $32k and the dealer says the brakes need replacement... for another 32k lmao
@autotempest
@autotempest 3 жыл бұрын
nbd - slap on a set of iron rotors and you're good
@smanzoli
@smanzoli 3 жыл бұрын
NEVER EVER buy from the dealer... so much freat OEM parts all around, great quality, 10% of price
@thckitchen434
@thckitchen434 3 жыл бұрын
Ebay rotors for $150.... my wife aint tracking that lol
@briskan
@briskan 3 жыл бұрын
You say thanks and head to your indie who uses FCPEuro lol
@TheJanvicgwaps
@TheJanvicgwaps 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@marleybrown4554
@marleybrown4554 3 жыл бұрын
I like seasoning my cast iron rotors makes them last longer and I have a non stick surface
@RussianBotLvl
@RussianBotLvl 3 жыл бұрын
Lmfao
@jhsevs
@jhsevs 3 жыл бұрын
"Why I season my brake rotors instead of my brake pads"
@gavinhicks7621
@gavinhicks7621 3 жыл бұрын
jhsevs why did I understand this reference 😂🤣
@blackice7408
@blackice7408 3 жыл бұрын
@@jwalker7567 😂
@endrelien1511
@endrelien1511 3 жыл бұрын
I like to grease my brakes
@artkaboom
@artkaboom 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I watched because I wanted to learn about the new brakes and you did a great job! keep up the good work!
@jonsmall72
@jonsmall72 10 ай бұрын
Great video and I especially loved the explanation of how the coating was applied. Earned a subscriber. BTW - I follow a suggested practice of sliding the wheels underneath the axles as a backup in case the jack stands fail. Thank you and can't wait to watch the rest of your content!
@F1fan4eva
@F1fan4eva 3 жыл бұрын
"Engineers have no feelings, so no feelings were hurt." You need to put that on some merch and sell it, my man!
@Cyberplayer5
@Cyberplayer5 3 жыл бұрын
Yes want
@MECHc3ify
@MECHc3ify 2 жыл бұрын
I'd buy it!
@paul_109
@paul_109 3 жыл бұрын
Porsche Owners with Carbon-Ceramic Brakes: *Brake at a redlight* Also them: "I'm never gonna financially recover from this"
@ernestoruiz4946
@ernestoruiz4946 3 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@JS-nt3cn
@JS-nt3cn 3 жыл бұрын
Carbon ceramic rotors last about four times as long as iron rotors.
@ck867
@ck867 3 жыл бұрын
J S - J S and cost 13.7x more than iron rotors. Probably not required on a Cayenne 🤷‍♂️
@jeremijakrstic1968
@jeremijakrstic1968 3 жыл бұрын
@@JS-nt3cn 4x2k is still less than 30k. 2k for brakes still hurts. Porsche is not for regular customers.
@babybirdhome
@babybirdhome 3 жыл бұрын
I had a friend who owned a 928 back in the late 80s. He said "it's an amazing car to own for 6 months. He said that was about as long as you could afford to drive it before the maintenance costs would bankrupt you or you'd have to sell it so cheap that it would be a nearly total write-off. So nothing has really changed.
@cg7025
@cg7025 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, so informative, entertaining and awesome, one of the very best channels on youtube. Keep up the great work. :)
@justinmurray2515
@justinmurray2515 3 жыл бұрын
If someone called you an "engineer", that just means you've been too easy on us with the whiteboards recently! LOL
@JohnGuzik
@JohnGuzik 3 жыл бұрын
Cost is inversely proportional to dust.
@RDMracer
@RDMracer 3 жыл бұрын
Better use that regen in the Taycan or you're gonna pay
@killer2600
@killer2600 3 жыл бұрын
Give me brake dust, at least then I can see where my money is going.
@DerSystematiker
@DerSystematiker 3 жыл бұрын
No. Just look at ATE ceramic pads. Affordable and almost dust free.
@RusnakAutoDesign
@RusnakAutoDesign 3 жыл бұрын
"I'll put a white board anywhere" May god have mercy on your child's soul when you give them "the talk".
@ghshrksidhc5460
@ghshrksidhc5460 3 жыл бұрын
God with a capital "g" brother, don't disrespect the Lord, however slightly it might be.
@ralanham76
@ralanham76 3 жыл бұрын
OH OH oooohhh
@tips4truckers252
@tips4truckers252 3 жыл бұрын
Orileys
@RusnakAutoDesign
@RusnakAutoDesign 3 жыл бұрын
@Ivana Notyers I didn't capitalize because I didn't want to be blasphemous to His name on an internet joke.
@rotor13
@rotor13 3 жыл бұрын
@@ghshrksidhc5460 "God" as opposed to "god" means - "to whatever god you believe in, or if you don't believe in a god"
@sheamartin8786
@sheamartin8786 3 жыл бұрын
Those brakes cost more than all of the cars I've owned combined
@lanceuppercut6168
@lanceuppercut6168 3 жыл бұрын
Same haha! xD
@Sundara229
@Sundara229 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. A good, reliable car doesnt have to cost much. Everything beyond "just doing its job" is pure luxury honestly. Blows my mind seeing teens and young adults spending all their earnings on a used Audi just to sell it 2-3 years later for next to nothing because they couldnt afford maintenance.
@charliegrech5598
@charliegrech5598 11 ай бұрын
The majority your videos are excellent, as are your presentation skills. You present your topics clearly and in a concise, methodical manner. Additionally, the use of diagrams (as utilised by yourself) would enable even the less technically minded of your audience in assisting them in understanding the points your trying to get across. A+ to you.
@Spiritdreams
@Spiritdreams 3 жыл бұрын
So for carbon ceramic brakes, the replacement parts cost half of the price of a standard Porsche Cayenne, the car where the brake sits on. It is more cost effective to buy a brand new Cayenne and sell your old one than replacing the brakes.
@404nobrakes
@404nobrakes 3 жыл бұрын
This is literally the printer model of business. Implying that the car is somehow disposable
@hoonaticbloggs5402
@hoonaticbloggs5402 3 жыл бұрын
Saurabh Kulkarni That’s exactly what they are planning
@cedricfranzen8558
@cedricfranzen8558 3 жыл бұрын
any car in parts is stupidly expensive... a couple years ago I read an article in a car magazine that did the math on how much a complete car would cost in replacement parts. They used the most sold car in my country, Germany, the VW Golf: a well equipped VW Golf from the dealer, costs about 30,000€ the same Golf in OEM replacement parts (no labor) costs over 250,000€ now you know where the real money is made...
@tomtaietot
@tomtaietot 3 жыл бұрын
@@cedricfranzen8558 Seems interesting .... but it s a LOOOT OF MONEY (i was expecting like 100-150l). Anyway - did you find the article or something similar on the internet ?
@autotempest
@autotempest 3 жыл бұрын
Or just put on iron rotors, which is what most owners do at that point.
@12beemer34
@12beemer34 3 жыл бұрын
"I'll put a whiteboard anywhere" Needs to be on a shirt!
@yakkoss
@yakkoss 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!!
@jeppoification
@jeppoification 3 жыл бұрын
You just potentially came up with a million dollar idea 😂
@krypticlock
@krypticlock 3 жыл бұрын
i'd buy it
@matejlieskovsky9625
@matejlieskovsky9625 3 жыл бұрын
On a shirt with an integrated whiteboard, obviously!
@eue4127
@eue4127 3 жыл бұрын
A white shirt (so he's putting the whiteboard on his viewers)
@frodemarkhus3692
@frodemarkhus3692 Жыл бұрын
You are a very skilled engineer.I love to look at your video`s
@AdventureBrad
@AdventureBrad 3 жыл бұрын
Slide the wheel under the rocker for some added protection but looks plenty safe the way you have it if your not going under the car.Great videos, thanks!
@GhostVvar
@GhostVvar 3 жыл бұрын
"I'll put a white board anywhere" probably the best part of the video!
@zanewebber2205
@zanewebber2205 3 жыл бұрын
“That’s a level of baller I’m not sure I can comprehend” 😂
@mikeschaner5853
@mikeschaner5853 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly... I wouldn't spend $3,200 let alone $32k 😆 holy moly!!!
@onecreative1
@onecreative1 3 жыл бұрын
Great job on the video. I found it to be really informative and my favorite point was when you did the price comparison. I wasn't expecting that at all! Don't worry about the comments, there are haters everywhere on the internet. Thanks for the info!
@Rafalce
@Rafalce 3 жыл бұрын
Really cool way you record the video! Thank and keep it up!
@slartbarg
@slartbarg 3 жыл бұрын
"I'll put a whiteboard anywhere" sounds like a threat
@evdaman
@evdaman 3 жыл бұрын
No, it's a promise
@pthom1508
@pthom1508 3 жыл бұрын
"I'll put a whiteboard anywhere." - How Jason got a job in porn.
@Bulgdoom
@Bulgdoom 3 жыл бұрын
When brakes cost more than the value of 90% of people's cars
@Theart0fstyle
@Theart0fstyle 3 жыл бұрын
Fixed* When brakes cost more than the value of 90% of said purchased car after 5 years of depreciation
@babybirdhome
@babybirdhome 3 жыл бұрын
@@Theart0fstyle I'm not sure what you think 90% of people drive, but it's a solid bet that it doesn't take 5 years of depreciation before they're worth less than $32k. I'd bet that about 60% of them are worth less than that by the time they've signed on the dotted line and driven off the dealer lot.
@m.pietro9087
@m.pietro9087 3 жыл бұрын
There’s a better world, but certainly it’s pretty expensive.
@Greenbearls
@Greenbearls 3 жыл бұрын
I could buy a new car or I can buy brakes.....
@TheSterlingArcher16
@TheSterlingArcher16 3 жыл бұрын
babybirdhome I think he was talking about the depreciated value of the Porsche’s these go on lol
@briankennedy2932
@briankennedy2932 Жыл бұрын
Jackstand set inside/underneath the jack lift arm. Brilliant!
@goldtutch
@goldtutch 3 жыл бұрын
i saw these in a car park on a porsche of course and i couldnt believe my eyes they are huge!
@funkingonutz1170
@funkingonutz1170 3 жыл бұрын
Me deciding if I should splurge and get $150 "racing" brake pads Porsche- $32,000 take it or leave it
@jakegarrett8109
@jakegarrett8109 3 жыл бұрын
Not unless you’re racing... For street use the racing type are worse (like ceramic won’t work well until it’s hot, and bare metallic pads are really loud screeching and destroy rotors fast), so the best ones for regular street driving are the normal semi-metallic and maybe even some organic ones (but the organic ones are often worse). So unless you want poor breaking normally or screeching to the point your ears want to bleed then I wouldn’t suggest it.
@Yugetubes
@Yugetubes 3 жыл бұрын
What Jake said x 100.
@RamtheCowy
@RamtheCowy 3 жыл бұрын
i loved the snark at the end about jacking safety
@e.lan.s
@e.lan.s 3 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHAHA Jack safely
@BigBoyz33
@BigBoyz33 3 жыл бұрын
They look so damn good, that caliper is insane!!
@jpabon18
@jpabon18 3 жыл бұрын
I agreed with your placement of the jack and stands... can't win em all! 👍
@UncleChopChop22
@UncleChopChop22 3 жыл бұрын
That moment you have where you wonder if educating your audience on the technical marvel of automotive engineering is wasted on them because you have to film extra about how the f'n car is jacked up.
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 3 жыл бұрын
It would have overwhelmed the comments section otherwise, as happened on IG/FB haha. Cool brakes though, yeah!?
@offdatgogo
@offdatgogo 3 жыл бұрын
Lol facts! I've worked on vehicles for 24 years and not once ever had a mishap lifting a vehicle. School and experience teach you how to safely do it. The keyboard mechanics are fascinating creatures indeed. 🙄
@Torchedini
@Torchedini 3 жыл бұрын
For me it was good enough that he said I'm not going under the car. Then its safe. Yeah the car might fall on its brakes and ruin a bit of equipment. But if you're not under it you're safe.
@jackdeniston9326
@jackdeniston9326 3 жыл бұрын
@@Torchedini Fall on the brakes and ruin the concrete, 9 vs 6
@timothymaggenti717
@timothymaggenti717 3 жыл бұрын
I think engineers do have feelings after working with them for over 30 years!
@andrewgillis4977
@andrewgillis4977 3 жыл бұрын
9:41 “...that’s a level of baller I’m not sure I can comprehend”.
@MuhammadKhan-yl7mt
@MuhammadKhan-yl7mt 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice with thorough backup evidence.
@tfaubus
@tfaubus 3 жыл бұрын
always interesting, thanks Jason!
@PatsGarageOnline
@PatsGarageOnline 3 жыл бұрын
"Engineers don't have feelings ... so no feelings were hurt." 😂 I love this! In fact, I actually need to start thinking and using this. Especially for some of the comments and DMs I receive.
@sypernova6969
@sypernova6969 3 жыл бұрын
yeah. maybe Jason could make a t-shirt... :-)
@Loachie90
@Loachie90 3 жыл бұрын
You need to sell a shirt with “Engineering Explained” written on a whiteboard
@SonsOfLorgar
@SonsOfLorgar 3 жыл бұрын
And an actual flexible whiteboard surface on the back
@nicholaslau3194
@nicholaslau3194 3 жыл бұрын
a wearable whiteboard
@mrboodi
@mrboodi 3 жыл бұрын
Hear hear
@zokusharuuku1091
@zokusharuuku1091 3 жыл бұрын
With engineers have no feelings written on it
@davidc1961utube
@davidc1961utube 3 жыл бұрын
And a pocket large enough for several colors of dry erase markers...
@alecsavoye2698
@alecsavoye2698 3 жыл бұрын
i love the jack setup
@user-om6px1zy3d
@user-om6px1zy3d 10 ай бұрын
Nice job on the video. Don’t let the negative commenters get you down. They’re criticizing because that’s their only skill set.
@Radio-cw9pr
@Radio-cw9pr 3 жыл бұрын
*“That’s a level of baller I’m not sure I can comprehend”*
@bwwilson1765
@bwwilson1765 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's his best quote of 2020 yet. 100% in agreement as well.
@rockymonge4979
@rockymonge4979 3 жыл бұрын
I think, “...Engineers have no feelings, so no feelings were hurt.” (10:40) is a good contender!
@robertdavid4058
@robertdavid4058 2 жыл бұрын
Well done, great rebuttal.
@gaboriloskity
@gaboriloskity 3 жыл бұрын
Scratches at level 8, with deeper grooves at level 9 😂
@skitzvitz
@skitzvitz 3 жыл бұрын
But will it survive a lighter to the scree...... wait , wrong channel.
@neillouiellana551
@neillouiellana551 3 жыл бұрын
But will it survive the bend test?
@BrandenMcNabb
@BrandenMcNabb 3 жыл бұрын
Collaboration!
@Steamrick
@Steamrick 3 жыл бұрын
Well, no. The entire point of Tungsten Carbide is for them to not scratch at level 8.
@nickds7
@nickds7 3 жыл бұрын
@@Steamrick it's a JerryRigEverything reference.
@lashlarue7924
@lashlarue7924 3 жыл бұрын
... And you probably can't change them yourself, because it would require dropping the engine and transmission and then extracting the rotors from the top of the strut mount through the exhaust manifold (which requires a special tool that only Porsche dealerships have). Join the Right to Repair movement and do the right thing.
@dustincady2811
@dustincady2811 3 жыл бұрын
😅 don't worry...I got it
@fredjr.8691
@fredjr.8691 3 жыл бұрын
freezeme360 *whooosh*
@malikemad4
@malikemad4 3 жыл бұрын
@freezeme360 "it's just a condom , slip it on " this is what ur mom said the night u were conceived
@court2379
@court2379 3 жыл бұрын
I guess some people here have never worked on a car. You made me laugh. As a mechanical engineer I have wanted to throttle the person that designed some of the junk on cars. I mean really, why is the fuel tank access port on top, where you have to drop the tank to get in it. I am pretty sure we have the ability to seal one placed on the side or bottom where it would take seconds to access. Or perhaps having to remove the exhuast system to replace an O2 sensor. Or remove the entire engine to replace an alternator, distributor, or AC compressor. The list goes on...
@SteinOnkel
@SteinOnkel 3 жыл бұрын
@@court2379 The access port for the fuel tank is on the top, so that you can access it regardless of how much fuel is in it. O2 Sensors mounted vertically can get too hot and if they are mounted from the bottom, condensation can collect inside of them, causing misreadings and failures.
@karenbailey9912
@karenbailey9912 3 жыл бұрын
LOVED your explanation, but HUGELY APPRECIATED your costing of replacements. I am about to buy a Cayenne E-hybrid, so at the beginning of your presentation I was thinking “I might just spec in those tungsten carbide coated discs”! No way now - not even if I’m pulling a caravan. I’ll just use the gears and the regen function with braking (which should save the brakes anyway!). Great work!
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 10 ай бұрын
The advantage of ceramic coated rotors in a hybrid would be reduction in rusting of the lightly-used rotors. With any luck, they'll last as long as you keep the vehicle so the replacement cost would not be a concern.
@DimitriBianco
@DimitriBianco 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for sharing new technologies on the channel!
@texdevildog9174
@texdevildog9174 3 жыл бұрын
My take away: diamonds are a 10 on hardness scale and I need diamond brake rotors.
@burnerheinz
@burnerheinz 3 жыл бұрын
Industrial diamond is fairly cheap don't know how to coat a brake disk in it though
@fleimlehner
@fleimlehner 3 жыл бұрын
@@burnerheinz cut the diamonds to be embedded into the rotor. Imagine flexing on people by saying your cars brakes has more diamonds then a rolly
@DigitalDiabloUK
@DigitalDiabloUK 3 жыл бұрын
Found the Dubai guy 😂
@romanromero5099
@romanromero5099 3 жыл бұрын
@@fleimlehner with a set of car brakes closing at 70000$ 😜😂
@MrNotorius5500
@MrNotorius5500 3 жыл бұрын
@@romanromero5099 For just one side.
@funone8716
@funone8716 3 жыл бұрын
So, 30% longer wear life, 500% higher replacement cost. Sounds about right.
@taekwondotime
@taekwondotime 3 жыл бұрын
This is how Porsche makes their money. They KNOW Porsche buyers will have to have it for their car and will upgrade to it immediately when they release it.
@syproful
@syproful 3 жыл бұрын
You don’t own a Porsche just move yourself. You own it to enjoy yourself. And relieving someone from the burden that money can be. Is also enjoyment to some.
@r34p3rex
@r34p3rex 3 жыл бұрын
@@taekwondotime and the buyers will buy the car and never actually take full advantage of these brakes
@hotflashfoto
@hotflashfoto 10 ай бұрын
I've seen other famous KZbinrs who've let their family members raise a truck on just a jack and then their nephew is sitting under the rear suspension, working on it. If that jack fails, his legs would be crushed and his whole life would change. But they're also cavalier about safety in other respects as well, such as not wearing eye protection while grinding or drilling, not wearing seatbelts while driving on the open road, etc. You did just fine suspending the car for a photo shoot, and until you pointed out the hidden jack stand under the floor jack, I hadn't noticed it and I still wasn't concerned. And since you don't have feelings, then a sarcastic response to the haters out there shouldn't affect them, either. But nope, you kept it all above board and showed who's the bigger person. Kudos!
@f32440i
@f32440i 3 жыл бұрын
You are a genius, love your explanations. 👍
@miika6739
@miika6739 3 жыл бұрын
"Barely measurable" Laughs in machinist
@johnbean2596
@johnbean2596 3 жыл бұрын
lol right? 1 thou is considered large 😂
@cencoast_7.340
@cencoast_7.340 3 жыл бұрын
john Bean Then I’m massive...sweet!
@Mj-zc6sb
@Mj-zc6sb 3 жыл бұрын
.0008mm is .00003 inches which it 1 three hundred thousandths of an inch, largely different that a thousandth of an inch
@gonesideways6621
@gonesideways6621 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnbean2596 especially when you work to plus or minus .0002
@jamisusijarvi646
@jamisusijarvi646 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mj-zc6sb real machinist doesnt work with inches
@gtahoer
@gtahoer 3 жыл бұрын
Porsche has 4 pistons on one real wheel, my car has 4 pistons for the whole car 😂😂😂 I feel so broke right now
@dekoldrick
@dekoldrick 3 жыл бұрын
Lucky. My car only has two. Rears are drums =P
@ThePentosin
@ThePentosin 3 жыл бұрын
Are you driving a rotary?
@InsideOfMyOwnMind
@InsideOfMyOwnMind 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThePentosin It could have one of those skid brakes like homemade minibikes have that just rub the tire.
@ImSick0
@ImSick0 3 жыл бұрын
Mine has 4 on one real wheel too 🤷‍♂️
@ironymatt
@ironymatt 3 жыл бұрын
Prepare to feel even broker(?), cuz here's the actual piston count @ 5:12 that you must've missed first time around😳😳😳
@ChuckJ1944
@ChuckJ1944 3 жыл бұрын
Great job as usual!
@IN-PERFORMANCE
@IN-PERFORMANCE 3 жыл бұрын
The lesson at the end was perfect !
@ProfCringe
@ProfCringe 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh you beat me in rock papers scissors. Gg mate
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 3 жыл бұрын
Yesss! 🙏
@CartubeCoIl
@CartubeCoIl 3 жыл бұрын
No doubt, Porsche knows how to empty the pockets of it's customers.
@Davidb11421
@Davidb11421 3 жыл бұрын
I bet they couldn’t even if they tried
@bradleycooper5436
@bradleycooper5436 3 жыл бұрын
That's not what Porsche is about. If you like to circle jerk about we auto motive technology a Porsche is for you. You gotta pay play and a Porsche is the cheapest way to get super car tech
@jeffreypark
@jeffreypark 3 жыл бұрын
One of the few car companies that can get away with taking features away and charging you more for it.
@glennaguon5165
@glennaguon5165 3 жыл бұрын
When you buy any exotic car. Whether that’s Porsche or not. You don’t look at the price of the parts. You’ll be looking at other costs. Hell you’ll probably trade it in for a new one in a few years. You’ll be making enough to cover the cost of it in about a day or less.
@DDd-hr6mz
@DDd-hr6mz 3 жыл бұрын
They literally don't know what to do with themselves any more. Who NEEDS this?
@sbfhawk4343
@sbfhawk4343 3 жыл бұрын
Bravo Porsche !!! You are in the making of greatness!! Sure to see Acura, Lexus and other manufacturers start looking into these type of rotors !!!
@table5522
@table5522 3 жыл бұрын
Such a great job done !!!!
@denisilyayev1878
@denisilyayev1878 3 жыл бұрын
No Rust, Low Dust, No Fade, No Money left in your bank account! - Porsche
@isaachunt5799
@isaachunt5799 3 жыл бұрын
lol
@jaydunbar7538
@jaydunbar7538 3 жыл бұрын
Well if thats the extent of your bank account, you should probably not be buying a new porche regardless of the type of brakes on it.
@indahooddererste
@indahooddererste 3 жыл бұрын
I dont see the point bragging about money spend on your car if u can afford them. Go buy a cheap Car. Though i never see them complaining about Ferraris.
@OlguinInHD
@OlguinInHD 3 жыл бұрын
"I'll put a white board anywhere" lmao 😂 Also, TEN piston calipers!? Had i been drinking coffee when I heard that, I would've spit it out. Love this channel!
@QuakeGamerROTMG
@QuakeGamerROTMG 3 жыл бұрын
"It has ten piston calipers" *Looks at my twin piston front and single piston rear calipers* Oh
@dimosk7389
@dimosk7389 3 жыл бұрын
they have been around for years...also aftermarket companies like Rotora and Endless make 12-piston calipers...overkill? definitely
@luismonroyRealtor
@luismonroyRealtor 3 жыл бұрын
“Let’s... brake it all down”... 🤣🤣🤣 thank you so much for existing and working hard at what you do!
@zigzag1able
@zigzag1able 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I love Porsche as my favorite automotive manufacturer 😎
@markkaupas8921
@markkaupas8921 3 жыл бұрын
$32,000 for brakes! The transmission would be getting a lot of wear and tear from me using it to slow the vehicle down.
@soaringvulture
@soaringvulture 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine the cost for transmission service...
@FlyingGentile
@FlyingGentile 3 жыл бұрын
Sheesh i wonder what the labor is like 🗿
@soundseeker63
@soundseeker63 3 жыл бұрын
And those prices are WITHOUT labor.... The running costs of these cars are just stupendous! No wonder they are so cheap used lol
@onivlasbrony7432
@onivlasbrony7432 3 жыл бұрын
Various sensors were included in the prices, this isn't the pice of the carbon/ceramic discs alone.
@edwill1595
@edwill1595 3 жыл бұрын
The people buying these cars are certainly not worried about the maintenance costs..
@DewwaKakkar
@DewwaKakkar 3 жыл бұрын
Having watched your videos right from your first year over here, helped me with my automotive engineering big time. Looking your channel grow to this scale after my education is done makes me very happy. Best of luck for the future!
@DonTruman
@DonTruman 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the analysis, including the cost.
@marvinsamuels1237
@marvinsamuels1237 3 жыл бұрын
Great presentation as always.
@jasepoag8930
@jasepoag8930 3 жыл бұрын
You gotta look out, man. Sometimes those cars will reach out and drag you under before they simultaneously explode all their jacks.
@moekushnow7592
@moekushnow7592 3 жыл бұрын
"Super sonic speeds, above the speed of sound" made my day
@Ian-xw1ge
@Ian-xw1ge 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis
@KastaRules
@KastaRules 3 жыл бұрын
You make a good point. I am going to install those rotors on a DACIA SANDERO.
@CU08
@CU08 3 жыл бұрын
Good news!
@sophiamarchildon3998
@sophiamarchildon3998 3 жыл бұрын
@@CU08 There's a new Dacia Sandero...
@TheDrAkira
@TheDrAkira 2 жыл бұрын
Still better than a Kwid xD
@BixbyConsequence
@BixbyConsequence 2 жыл бұрын
Anyway....
@cesar19.5
@cesar19.5 2 жыл бұрын
James May would be very proud of you 😂
@dimitrisbrailas3993
@dimitrisbrailas3993 3 жыл бұрын
Scratches at level 6, with deeper grooves at level 7
@Robertdiaz123
@Robertdiaz123 3 жыл бұрын
JerryRigEverything is that you?
@neilcorcoran2560
@neilcorcoran2560 3 жыл бұрын
Teardown in the next video?
@ArsenicGremlin
@ArsenicGremlin 3 жыл бұрын
Really well done man nice video
@taylorolp8090
@taylorolp8090 3 жыл бұрын
“I’ll put a whiteboard anywhere “ 😂 had me dead
@drummerdoingstuff5020
@drummerdoingstuff5020 3 жыл бұрын
When the "track day" is a whole family event...
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, love it!
@joef5661
@joef5661 3 жыл бұрын
...And have you seen those races where everyone's pulling a trailer? Good times!
@vojvoda9060
@vojvoda9060 3 жыл бұрын
Nice explained man!!👍👍😊😊thank's
@saqibtariq7994
@saqibtariq7994 3 жыл бұрын
Love the explanation @ the end to shut the trolls down 👌🏽
@papel_pe
@papel_pe 3 жыл бұрын
"I'll put a whiteboard anywhere" that cracked me up
@KiwiBro8
@KiwiBro8 3 жыл бұрын
Q: What directs air to keeps the ridiculously expensive brakes cool? A: the cheapest plastic we could find
@esmo6341
@esmo6341 3 жыл бұрын
As a mechanic, I can say thats the best option. It isnt very fun to tell the customer who ran over a stick and some air deflector that can be made of plastic and mounted with a ziptie, would cost 100 bucks to replace because its some fancy piece of metal/carbon fibre
@mezo72271
@mezo72271 3 жыл бұрын
@@esmo6341 since it's a Porsche it will cost anyway several hundred dollars for those plastic pieces
@esmo6341
@esmo6341 3 жыл бұрын
@@mezo72271 yeah sorry it was an understatement. I work at a mercedes dealer in finland so I should know lol
@cardinaloflannagancr8929
@cardinaloflannagancr8929 3 жыл бұрын
Great video very enjoyable explanation of the differences. Made me think of a Jay Leno garage where he mentions on a McLaren I believe they advised he not purchase the carbon ceramic. Mentioning as you did their initial or cold performance. Saying on the street they typically on that car at least have worse performance since they stay overall too cool.
@harry356
@harry356 3 жыл бұрын
These discs are huge!
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