Portal 2 but the Portals are Balanced

I made a mod that keeps you from forming black holes.
This mod is available on Spplice: p2r3.com/spplice
Thanks to dustyhobo for the amazing music, and thank you for watching.
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- / momc-original-prod
- / newportamento
- / never-again
- / cloudcitytrap
- / sumrageshit

[@PortalRunner]

Hi, I'm back from the dead. I've got big things planned for the future. Edit: I didn't think I'd need to note this, but this is a gameplay mod for a what-if scenario. This does not aim to be fully consistent with lore, or to be an accurate model of a real-world scenario. That said, while I am aware that the ASHPD is marketed as a "Quantum Tunneling Device", I'd also like to point out that "Quantum Tunneling" is explicitly noted to be a trademark of Aperture Science, and not explicitly noted to be a phenomena of quantum mechanics. That, combined with the fact wormholes explain portals a lot more comfortably than quantum tunneling, lead me to believe that the inner workings of the portal gun are better defined via wormholes.

[@RRCBLUE]

welcome back!

[@aperturegamingrobot273]

poggers

[@TheRandomCospIayer]

Welcome back Mr. Runner. We have a lot of work to do

[@AdamMady]

lets gooo welcome back

[@Cringegammer5963]

Hey welcome back from the ded how was it?

[@Stinkycheese-sy4kt]

"These portals, if real, would create black holes if too much mass is unbalanced. To work around that, I broke the laws of physics by jumping across a large gap with a chair."

[@Francisco1234Cruz]

Makes sense to me.

[@jaydentt]

"these portals, if real, would create black holes if too much mass is unbalanced. to work around that, i have to fly up to the chamber exit using just a cube and a camera"

[@PortalRunner]

exactly

[@vazio4848]

@@jaydentt lmao

[@ButterFromDiscord]

FR

[@edgybubblegum6404]

only just noticed chell still weighs 85kg in the starting sequence, without the portal gun. taking this not as an oversight but chell losing 5kg on her way to get the portal gun

[@kitsofthekats7040]

Actually, the ending technically WANTS you to make a black hole. so i would count that as a massive W

[@shibainu2528]

Best way to make the game beatable while still following the rules all the way up to that point. The portal gun gets damaged from the explosion, so it sparks a bit, allowing you to casually place a portal despite the built-in safety protocols... causing the game to crash shortly after you go to the moon because a blackhole was formed.

[@globalincident694]

@@shibainu2528 I guess you could also just increase the tolerance, up to 40kg perhaps.

[@samcecere9924]

That's a cool alternate ending. You make a black hole and destroy the entire earth. RIP the half life universe

[@drdca8263]

Eh? Making a portal to the moon isn’t making a black hole. It just sucks things in because of the difference in air pressure.

[@pncka]

its the debris from wheatley being sent through causing mass inbalance@@drdca8263

[@Krzyhau]

Goodness! This content creator is finally creating content. Oh my.

[@Ballistic2770]

HIIII KRZYHAU!!! I LOVE YOU!!!!

[@sivrios]

Triple Laser Man

[@PortalRunner]

krzy why are you british

[@Ballistic2770]

@@PortalRunner why AREN’T you british?

[@LindenF]

@SONICSTER_PAWS Krzyhau

[@DrPeeper]

Finally you finished this after having a whole stream consisting of failing a jump

[@PortalRunner]

4000 hours in portal 2 btw

[@DrPeeper]

@@PortalRunner :)

[@nevascalange3091]

i wanted to see if you can really make a black hole in-game@@PortalRunner

[@quantumblur_3145]

​@@PortalRunnerfamiliarity breeds sloths

[@hypercrafting]

Ironically, if you somehow you made an object fall infinitely through portals with no way to reach it yourself, you'd have no way to stop a black hole from forming, so much for that failsafe... an effective failsafe would be to make one portal un-enterable depending on the imbalance (or maybe having the portals push/pull objects towards them with increasing force could also be fun) but i guess it wouldn't be too interesting for a challenge

[@PortalRunner]

nuh uh, this is the aperture way of doing things - solving problems you don’t have with solutions that don’t work

[@romancatholicgameing]

​@@PortalRunner i thought the aperture way was developing revolutionary technology and then never selling it to anybody so you go bankrupt

[@psgamer-il2pt]

@@romancatholicgameing both

[@adora_was_taken]

@@romancatholicgameing they literally invented sentient AIs and they just use them to run R&D

[@Yuzuki1337]

@@adora_was_taken I mean to be fair their sentient AI kinda went haywire and mercilessly slaughtered all of the AS staff sooo... maybe it wasn't market-ready yet.

[@RealBasil143]

I love how all this does is make the black hole theory more possible as you cant break the portal loop

[@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth]

I'm honestly impressed with whatever stasis tech Portal has, to ensure someone can sleep for years and wake up with a healthy body-mass of 85kg.

[@Graknorke]

Chell beat the odds by managing to "pack on a few pounds"

[@Teh_Random_Canadian]

190lbs is not normal for a woman. It is obese for almost all women unless they are like 6'8

[@Graknorke]

@@Teh_Random_Canadian You are objectively wrong. That's not true. BMI doesn't even have a "women's" and "men's" version, and unless she's short to an abnormal degree no 85 kilos isn't obese. Even being generous about the effect of the boots her model is easily >180 cm she's not a midget.

[@Teh_Random_Canadian]

@@Graknorke look up BMI, she has to be 6'2 minimum to be considered on the high end of healthly

[@Graknorke]

@@Teh_Random_Canadian Overweight isn't the same as obese, and also she is in fact that tall. She's a decent bit taller than the model for the blue co-op robot, which is said to be 73 inches. 85 kilos is a perfectly believable weight for someone that height. BMI isn't a particularly deep system and there's lots of things that can throw it, for example people who are particularly fit often come in overweight because it assumes a more sedentary low muscle mass build.

[@microsoftpowerpoint4731]

7:03 the character shooting the portals from this view looks so awesome I don’t know why

[@chameleondemeleon9642]

You do know that there's a minature black hole in the portal gun to make the portals? Feel like you should be more worried about the black hole ur holding 😂

[@NIgHTMaReFortyTwo]

It doesn't make the portals, its the power source for the device. Thats why the blueprints for the device include a 'black hole cooling fan'

[@chameleondemeleon9642]

@NIgHTMaReFortyTwo oh. well my point still stands. You're still holding a minature black hole 😅

[@WackoMcGoose]

@@NIgHTMaReFortyTwo My understanding is that it "blows out" a sliver of ring singularity from the black hole, and that's what makes the portals. As for how it pairs two ringularities, unpairs and destroys a specific old one, making matter come out of a black hole in the first place, keeping the black hole in a set position relative to the gun, moves said black hole and gun through those wormholes, yadda yadda... _science isn't about why, it's about why not!_

[@nullstudios2989]

The black hole itself does not create the portals, it does, however, generate the energy used to create them.

[@blackholetl]

Would the total mass displacement From the portals added up from across both games be enough mass to cause a black hole based on the size of the portals?

[@CountDooku420]

Well, if someone could make a version of this mod for portal 1, but also make both mods not revoke the portal device, we could find out. Though, due to the lack of objects with masses equivalent to that of planets passing through the portals, most likely not.

[@Gurtopolis]

HELL YEA, HE'S BACK! Seriously I like these portal videos, portal modding is like minecraft modding, making the game completely replayable like the first time.

[@gahmoo]

the game theorist video doesn't seem to be super accurate at all on the portal gun itself, so I'm glad we can just agree to chalk it up as an excuse to make an interesting challenge mod. That being said, cool video!

[@PortalRunner]

unfortunately there are some down here in the comments that desperately need it to make sense for the video to be watchable, but yes. it is just context for a video game challenge.

[@NIgHTMaReFortyTwo]

@@PortalRunner Because your context is based on nonsense and you're in the comments for some reason trying to defend that nonsense. Anyone who knows the first thing about science or about the game would know its a Quantum tunnelling device, not a wormhole generator. You just took game theory's unscientific video at face value when its full of lies and misinformation.

[@drdca8263]

@@NIgHTMaReFortyTwouh, calling it a “quantum tunneling device” isn’t something that actually makes sense. I know the game calls it that. But if we are critiquing something for physical accuracy, “it uses quantum tunneling, not wormholes” makes little sense. Because, as the video author noted, quantum tunneling is a wholly unrelated idea (and, indeed, as he said, is about how probability amplitude can kinda seem to leak through barriers in the potential energy function, resulting in a chance of ending up on the other side of the barrier when classically it could not have. That’s not to say that the “Game Theory” video is right about any of the stuff (I rather dislike the “Game Theory” channel, for, among other things, causing people to assume that the subreddit for the mathematical field of game theory, is about his youtube channel, and posting inane things to it. Also it just gets stuff wrong all the time.) But, “it isn’t wormholes, it is quantum tunnels” is a terrible criticism. Wormholes are the only thing that would make sense? Well, heck, the semantics of “portal” and “wormhole” are nearly the same. They link locations in space that would otherwise be far apart.

[@dce8719]

@@drdca8263 “portal” (to me, at least) more refers to interdimensional traveling, such as the nether portal from Minecraft. I think of it like the terms “square” and “rectangle”. A square is always a rectangle, but a rectangle is not always a square. Same goes for portals and wormholes. Wormholes are always portals, but portals are not always wormholes.

[@temerodiavolo470]

Its funny that he went out of his way to balance the portals, but at 2:29 keeps submerging the Portal Device in liquid, even partially

[@Ender.C]

This challenge was pretty cool. It encourages taking 0 portal routes while still having another way to complete the level.

[@gala586]

You were trying to prevent a black hole to form with the portals. Well, I'm sorry to say this, but ever since the beginning you failed. The portal gun has a black hole in it as labeled in one of Valve's videos lmao.

[@konstralit2105]

Black hole in portal gun is energy source, it isn't create portals by itself

[@gingerphoenix10]

Nice to see about 3 streams go by in about 1 minute and 45 seconds

[@altdeunsubnormalmas]

that transition at 11:28 tho

[@setinstone-x4p]

holy shit i didnt evens ee that thats so good

[@sagaevan9641]

i love how you mod the game to be quantum mechanically accurate and then abuse glitches to advance

[@Alloy_Dreemurr]

BRO I WAS LIKE JUST WATCHING YIUR OLD VIDEOS AGAIN AND WAS LIKE "yeah this guy quit" OMG

[@user199x]

But, wait, what do you mean they form black holes? When was this established?

[@Cats-TM]

22:44 Well, _technically_ since they are made of liquid asbestos they should add weight to the portal.

[@samuels1123]

What sort of spontaneous nonsense is being used by game theory to say 'the portals get gravity when things go through'

[@genericlegoshiguy553]

Oh damn, I just started watching you again recently for nostalgia, this video is a nice surprise

[@chimitrash2966]

Just wanted to let you know that I love this thumbnail, looks good

[@Malowith]

I always actively sigh in disappointment when I hear the words 'crouch fly glitch'. It just throws out any interesting problem solving and essentially makes the last set of chambers non-existent. I'd rather see you try to do these challenges without it if you can, I'm begging you.

[@PortalRunner]

nope :)

[@beans5601]

well, they do save time

[@Cametendo]

"Don'w worry though...It get's worse" Damn...That's cool

[@Feezee223]

Omg yay a new video to distract me from being sick :D Idk why KZbin gave me the notification a hour late lol

[@kylefinn5301]

I'm not sure if it's the same as a generic wormhole, but Portals are actually quantum tunnels. Edit: I looked this up, and It turns out Wormholes and quantum tunnels are seperate, so the balance thing doesn't apply. A little lore bit, Black Mesa was working with entanglement and wormholes, but Aperture was working on quantum tunneling.

[@PortalRunner]

i'm not a physicist, but my understanding of quantum tunneling has me believe that it's really got nothing to do with teleportation of matter in the way portals do it. rather, it describes a phenomena where a particle passes an energy barrier that it statistically shouldn't be able to. not teleportation. i'd argue the lore is applying the idea that taking fresh fields of science vaguely related to the subject matter and aging them via sci-fi story telling leads to plausible explanations for otherwise purely fictional mechanics. quantum tunneling sounds fancy enough to equate to portals.

[@NIgHTMaReFortyTwo]

You're wrong. They absolutely are quantum tunnels. The guy you're replying to is right. kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2G8eYWnrr2aodU&ab_channel=TheShuckmeister @@PortalRunner

[@rarebeeph1783]

i'm not convinced the original black hole problem really exists, at least not with your summary of the argument. do you have a link or title of the original video that brought it up? interesting mod though. definitely seems like it makes for some fun puzzles

[@PortalRunner]

an infinitely falling cube creates a perpetual motion machine - that alone would break the laws of physics if there was no consequence. even if not in the form of a black hole, some such consequence must exist. in reality, it's just an excuse to make a silly mod. if you care more for the black hole scenario specifically, the video i'm referencing can easily be found by searching for "game theorists portal"

[@nickdumas2495]

You are probably being confused by the "safety measure" rule which only makes the situation strictly worse by ensuring a loop can't be broken easily. The infinitely falling cube would have to be in a vacuum to not reach terminal velocity, and the energy would have to come from somewhere (presumably the gun itself supporting the portals which give the cube repeated potential energy boosts back up to the ceiling).

[@drdca8263]

@@nickdumas2495Well, even if it reached terminal velocity, the energy in the system would still be increasing due to the energy lost to the air friction, so you still have a problem. On the other hand... something going faster and faster shouldn’t really produce a black hole, because whether a black hole is formed shouldn’t depend on frame of reference, while the velocity does depend on that.

[@nickdumas2495]

@@drdca8263 Terminal velocity literally means it isn't going any faster. Due to the air, yes. The downdraft of air gets to press on the floor since it spreads out. You're still pumping energy in with the portals, but it is leaking out of the falling test subject and going into the general environment as fast as it is being added. Your room gets noticeably warmer, your building gets a tiny bit warmer, and the earth sends it off to space. You add energy, you add a bit of mass. Eventually something gives.

[@geokou7645]

This safety feature is so overboard. I love it

[@aencya]

Friendly reminder that portals have absolutely no link whatsoever with wormholes and are formed by quantum tunneling. It is a portable quantum tunneling device after all. But great video either way

[@ghoust592]

Whilst this idea is very cool, the fun police has arrived :( Portals are wormholes, so basically one thing goes in, one thing goes out but in another place. With Quantum Tunneling you would need to balance the mass/energy intake, but because wormholes are one object (since both portals are tethered) they do not need to balance anything. But that creates another problem... *PORTALS* *ARE* *DOUBLE-SIDED* Which means, in short that you can enter a blue portal and reenter through the orange one, you can do the same action backwards. this scenario requires that one portal should be only enterable and a second one not enterable + gravitational effects of both (which depending on how much mass enters the wormhole might be even bigger) We will ignore that with string theory magic. Now an interesting fact is that portals emit hawking radiation in form of visible light because we can differentiate between blue and orange portal through the glowing perimeter, so they could disappear in like, 10^50 years or idk. Better be quick (Also im going to ignore that portals are 2 dimensional instead of 3 dimensional like blackholes but i dont want to do math for a portal 2 mod video)

[@nullderef]

can't believe it, they managed to release a video!? anyway, good job on doing the thingy!

[@nescade5663]

Suggestion for a new mod/challenge: Portal 2 but it’s Metroid Prime… how do you do this? Well, there was recently a really impressive GMOD SWEP released on the steam workshop that recreates the entirety of Metroid Prime’s movement system inside of the source engine. All you would need to do is put a few upgrades around the many maps in portal 2 and you’d have yourself an interesting challenge.

[@emidemi7211]

this would actually be very cool I would play this

[@NeonNobility]

The blaclk hole theory is literally complete nonsense. There's no reason why a cube falling through a set of holes in the floor would create a black hole, especially since terminal velocity exists, and portals just replicate that with the same 2 floors. Portals arent nearly as complicated as everyone seems to think

[@PortalRunner]

so a perpetual motion machine doesn't sound like a violation of the conservation of energy to you? what does terminal velocity have to do with this?

[@BinaryBolias]

The mass difference, in practice, could possibly be canceled by air flow through portals.

[@Sariiger]

Wait, how is Chell 85kg?! I guess GLaDOS wasn't lying with the fat jokes.

[@theneoreformationist]

As an American, I can only pretend to get this joke

[@oMuStiiA]

It's the boots + 5kg for the Portal gun

[@Sariiger]

@@oMuStiiA In the beginning she doesn't have the portal gun, but the boots fair. Now that I think about it, those boots must weigh a lot to br able to always make you fall on your feet.

[@sans353CZ]

he: "...the fun value..." me: undertale

[@blacklight683]

Actually where would the mass go if you made a new portal? I mean you aren't sucking in and launching the same portal you are making a new one

[@icarusgaming6269]

How much mass debt is the failure state at which the point of no return has been crossed and a singularity that cannot be closed is created?

[@zea_64]

You wouldn't want to break physics and create a black hole, that's why you use CFG instead, to *respect* physics

[@Jp6g0]

this entire video is amazing, i would know as i watched the whole thing.

[@gametram6139]

posted 3 hours ago

[@wilsonez2]

i was waiting... for days... weeks... years... it was so long that i dont even know how old i am anymore...

[@zetertheduck]

So the portal gun is 5 kg... but it has a black hole inside it. Hmmm...

[@PortalRunner]

one of wheatley’s voice lines mentions that it’s 10lb, which is about 5kg www.portal2sounds.com/sounds/sound/vo/wheatley/bw_finale04_pre_pipebreak02.mp3?id=1710

[@zetertheduck]

@@PortalRunner understandable. I just found it odd that the game has it as a weight of 5kg when the gun has a black hole, so that has interesting implications

[@FREAKBAlT]

Nope. The portal device uses quantum tunnelling, not wormholes. Sure it makes a fun topic for a video but quantum tunnelling is way different to wormholes. Of course I’m not going to go into detail but if you want to know more there’s a video on it.

[@PortalRunner]

i’m aware that the portal gun is canonically referred to as a quantum tunneling device. you’re also right that quantum tunneling differs from wormholes. it is so different, in fact, that forming portals from it is highly unrealistic. unless the video you mention can convince me otherwise, of course.

[@AllExistence]

Keeping this "balance" thing between different portals is nonsense.

[@PortalRunner]

it’s a video game challenge.

[@lIlIIlIllIIIllIIllIlIllIllI]

@@PortalRunner kinda with them. my eyes were glazed over for 6 minutes straight because the "balance" challenge immediately had to break the game to levels requiring debug features to solve. that's not balanced. you made the source engine equivalent of a pentesting CTF, and then solved it. which like, isn't trivial and its pretty cool when framed from that regard, but the original thing is lost on me i guess. idk. keep making videos though, do things that are your passion. setting out to overcome a challenge is always admirable, so whatever.

[@BrotherTora]

If the imbalance caused by going through the portal created a force pulling mass back through, wouldnt the portals just pull air through until its balanced?

[@PortalRunner]

the theory goes that the portal which you’re going through gets more positive mass, while the other one gets negative mass, so the pull and push would work accordingly. though this is a very hypothetical scenario and as such is not very easy to comment on. i’m just the one making and playing the silly game to produce entertainment.

[@kommo1]

Wants to save physics..... by destroying physics.

[@ultbee]

I'm super glad to see you back! I remember watching all your videos after the mario odyssey video and turning on notifications, checking in every couple months and even a couple weeks ago I checked in, was super sad to see no new videos. But alas you're back! Love your videos man, keep it up!

[@PortalRunner]

thank you!

[@PancakeTAS]

cleanest color fills of latvia

[@dustyhob0]

LATVIA MENTIONED RAGGGHHHHHHHHH 🦅🦅🦅🦅🇱🇻🇱🇻🇱🇻🇱🇻🇱🇻🇱🇻🇱🇻

[@virtualashez]

@@dustyhob0 WWWW

[@AroGrooves]

was on the minecraft stream, glad the vid is out!

[@matthewkendrick8280]

85kg? Wow, Glados was right.

[@setinstone-x4p]

this is an AWESOME video, thank you!

[@Bleplar]

the portals from portal arent wormholes, they're quantum tunnels

[@PortalRunner]

quantum tunneling is when a particle crosses a barrier it statistically shouldn’t be able to. it’s mentioned in lore, yes, but in reality quantum tunneling has nothing to do with teleportation the way portals do it

[@Bleplar]

@@PortalRunner yeah but they're still two different theorys, although it doesn't really matter here cause it made a cool challenge. i just dont like misinformation

[@PortalRunner]

@@Bleplar the misinformation is that it could be used to make portals. quantum tunneling isn’t a theory, it’s a testable phenomena

[@lampishboi]

yoo this is the best video that has ever been made on the youtube platofrm

[@zakziuga]

good to see you making videos again! i swear you are the best portal youtuber

[@Operational117]

I have an idea: instead of the mass imbalance leading towards a black hole, it would instead lead to something I will call "quantum breakdown", where a wide radius (1 km) around the portal gun experiences "quantum static" and becomes too unstable to connect portals. The mass imbalance will decay over time, but slowly (like roughly 1% of current imbalance per second). The imbalance threshold (the point quantum breakdown occurs) would be say 1000 kg, and the imbalance hysteresis (the point where quantum breakdown stops) would be 100 kg. This leads to a very interesting dynamic: To ensure you can continue going through portals, you need to make sure you never exceed 1000 kg of mass imbalance in one direction. If you reach quantum breakdown, the portals will collapse (the portal surface will remain) and it will take almost 4 minutes for the quantum field to stabilize. More or less depending on how much you exceed the 1000 kg limit. During quantum breakdown, you can still place portals, but they will not connect. Once the imbalance reaches 100 kg, the quantum field stabilizes, allowing the portals to connect once more. Things like plasma balls, tractor beams and light bridges can be considered "massless", meaning they never modify the current imbalance. In two-player modes, each pair of portals can have their own mass imbalance system, but the quantum breakdown is applied globally, meaning the two players now also have to communicate their current imbalance level. If one player causes quantum breakdown, both players' portals collapse. This may also allow for an interesting 4-player mode, once again where each player has their own mass imbalance system and globally applied quantum breakdown that collapses all 4 players' portals. Obviously, the imbalance threshold and hysteresis points (as well as the imbalance decay rate) can be adjusted to make the game more or less difficult.

[@optimisticwatermelon]

10:57 "so instead of following the laws of physics, it's much easier to just break them instead"

[@GIRGHGH]

I think 10kgs being the limit is the biggest difficulty because if it could be more you could move the portals back and forth like what you did with the blobs, but you could use anything.

[@KLightning18]

85 pounds? Damn GladOS was wrong all along. She definitely isn’t fat.

[@PortalRunner]

@@KLightning18 85 kilograms, or about 187 pounds

[@KLightning18]

@@PortalRunner Me and my American ass…

[@TheBcoolGuy]

Chell is 85 kg? Like 187-188 lbs? :O Where?! That's about what I weigh and I'm a muscular boys gang! 😎

[@Izolus]

11:57 the cut here was so clean I had to watch it multiple times

[@Ralzone]

oh god i didnt even notice that..

[@herobrineslayer85]

Portals are not worm holes if you paid attention to Old aperture it clearly states that Portal guns do not use worm holes instead uses quantum tunneling

[@PortalRunner]

yep, i address this in the pinned comment.

[@Fifasher2K]

​@@PortalRunner What pinned comment?

[@hockindustries]

If the cube is 40kg and the turret is 100kg why does the cube press the button but the turret doesn't

[@PortalRunner]

because portal 2 is a horrible game (i love it very much)

[@Jake_Gotthard]

Because the turrets dont fucking Care what us mortals believe is and isnt possible by the laws of physics

[@Neatfinity]

you have to use the command bar to do speed run strats so that means that speed runners are cheaters because you cant backwards jump and speed up faster then light its not a feature or a glitch its a command there for even jumping on the cube well holding it is also not real

[@dustyhob0]

Cube Hopping is a quite real quirk in Portal 2, even without any mods or commands :D

[@bozokiller420v2]

Why do you kinda sound like virgil

[@ansisg]

REAL AND TRUE

[@Minefnafer22]

TRUEST THING EVER COMMENTED!!!

[@4nevar]

All of that just for the ending to not be possible?? That's just bad game design

[@PortalRunner]

the ending is technically possible through a set of long, intricate glitches. at that point that's just bad video design. many of the levels before that weren't possible, either. some barely were. this is a what-if scenario, i was finding out what is and isn't possible as i went along.

[@4nevar]

​@@PortalRunnerhuh, fair enough

[@chewcodes]

ayo whats the context behind the maid at 13:23

[@PancakeTAS]

don't worry about it :3 (sshhhh if you look on the twitch archive you can find portalrunner maid as well)

[@dustyhob0]

das me :3

[@chewcodes]

@@dustyhob0 cute!

[@s4sausage135]

arent light bridges technicaly plasma or smth solidish cause you cant stand on light

[@PortalRunner]

ehhh, photons can create pressure on surfaces they come in contact with. theoretically, that could be enough to counter gravity. i'm not willing to discuss why chell isn't blinded by the bridges.

[@s4sausage135]

@@PortalRunner portal should have its own way of eplaining things thats just weird potal stuff

[@esmax3000]

Isn't the portal gun á quantum tunneling device and not a wormhole gun?

[@NIgHTMaReFortyTwo]

It is. PortalRunner doesn't know what hes talking about. Theres a good video by Shuckmeister about how the ASHPD actually works.

[@drdca8263]

The lore (I think) says so, but (assuming it does), said idea is nonsense. If one wants to make sense of portals as described in the series Portal, the thing to think of them as, is like wormholes* , and very much unlike quantum tunneling.

[@AlexArnold-rd7yl]

What most people don’t realize is that it is called the quantum tunneling device. Quantum tunneling is not wormholes. Cool concept though. (The black hole in the gun Is most likely a power source)

[@metalsonic17]

Idea: 10kgs is WAY too difficult, maybe make the limit like 1000? It makes it less of a nuisance and would still be perfectly safe, after all, the earth is much more than 1000 kg

[@Foxboy-hx2wx]

Urm actually everything in portal 2 is built to stand 1000 kelvin as it says in Portal Revolution but Portal Revolution isn't part of portal it self right? bbbuuttt anything touch by a laser doesn't get damage in my knowledge, and also the cube is also not being able to be burn/damage by a laser which means the heat in the laser is a little less then 1000 kelvin and the co-op robots can die/explode when touching the laser for long enough after all that the lasers should have weight. This is a joke

[@Doctor_lce]

They possibly might not be black holes. It instead looks like they're Powered by a black hole, and it is states in the name, that is uses quantum teleportation tech. I recomend watching Shuck's video on this, the video is very informative. kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2G8eYWnrr2aodUsi=k9h0uqOlnTntTpsA The mod is very nice btw, always love you doing all kinds of challenges in portal ♥️

[@Maker0824]

I am confused why you only one time gave yourself a small, safe offset so that you could go through the other portal and still be able to use your portal device. Also run invalid, didn’t account for gas going into portals. You could assume there’s an approximately constant amount going through each, but not during the neurotoxin room. ok, obviously that was mostly a joke. Also the ending was TOTALLY possible to do by using the strategy, though I don’t remember if debris other than the two cores go through, and the air coming through might actually matter there.

[@hahaxolotl]

11:48 couldnt u just walk through the portals once inside the room, then walk through them again to the next level? That way you would add 85kg in the first room, but then negate it with 85kg entering the next, No Portal dropping needed? Edit: Nvm i wasnt paying attention

[@drdca8263]

Huh? I don’t really follow why the mass debt would have a gravitational effect like that? ... hm, well... I guess, if the gravitational field influence is like, causal, then, it only changes far from the object as the changes from closer to it propagate.. so like, I guess the “when masses fall into a black hole, the gravitational influence of the object remains (and contributes to the effect of the black hole) even though the object can no longer have an influence on stuff outside of it” thing might, kind of suggest something like that..? But, I don’t think that really works here. I would expect the gravitational influence to continue to travel through the portal, and like, have the changes to the field continue to propagate as the object gets further from the portal, with no accumulation thing going on? Of course, the “endless falling” thing is still an issue, but I think the answer to that would be in the portals having gravitational effects that prevent such loops?

[@tiagotiagot]

My intuition is that the way physics would actually work, is portals lose the energy equivalent to what is getting thru them (including factors like relativistic mass etc), and in any circumstances where the total energy in the universe would've been changed by something going thru portals (different altitudes, atmospheric pressures, orientations relative to gravity etc) that difference always gets subtracted as well (they always lose energy, either by directly creating energy, or using their energy to cancel out pre-existing energy), and after enough charge is used up they would fizzle out; the firey edges of the portals is the energy being "burned" due to things like air currents, light passing thru etc. And the energy to create the portals in the first place comes from the microblackhole inside the portal gun that is mentioned in one of the lines in the game IIRC. Though, I'm not sure how fun the game would be if portals had a very limited charge, and if they had lots of charge then it wouldn't be any difference from the vanilla game...

[@dottrina]

even if you did shoot the moon, the pressure difference's vacuum effect would cause the entirety of Aperture Labs to collapse into a black hole

[@calebmezenberg137]

23:11 I don't know why but when you said "get to Wheatley's lair and beat the final boss" I thought you were going to say "get to Wheatley's lair and beat the fuck out of him", I think there's something wrong with me

[@Extreme-PCIe-Cable]

13:06 He uses linux.

[@overestimatedforesight]

Love it, very creative. Light does not have mass (precisely zero) but it does have energy in the form of momentum which would also have to be conserved. Having said that, asking you to deal with conservation of momentum along with energy is a bit much lol. You'd also have to conserve charge (no biggie) and angular momentum (dear god)

[@Muho_is_me]

Fun fact: These "safety" measures actualy make it more dangerus If you make a loop and put a cube in it you cant stop it by changing portals becouse of the massife offset So if you threw it in an unreachable location congragulations you doomed the eart

[@dandori_issue]

Omg is he back!!!!!!

[@Green-ba]

For the last time they aren’t a wormhole how they work is quantum tunneling it says it in the extras video about the portal gun it’s named in the blueprint, quantum tunneling device

[@temanor]

The portal gun does not make wormholes. It is a quantum tunneling device. So this whole theory is wrong... Still cool to see the game be completed in this way.

[@SusDoctor]

These portals are based off quantum tunneling and not wormholes Literally dubbed "quantum tunneling device"

[@ryosenberg]

If Chell weigh 85 kg by the game then when GLaDOS said "Maybe not as quiet as heavy" in Want You Gone. She is actually telling the truth

[@Maker0824]

I really wish you gave a quick explanation, because good god I don’t want to watch a Matt Patt video to learn anything. That guy does… an amount of research

[@Natalia-jb7vv]

A much more effective failsafe would be to deactivate the portals when the imbalance gets too high. The current failsafe of disabling the portal gun makes it impossible to prevent a critical mass singularity from forming.

[@ucycik]

if the portal gun weighs 5kg, and the Chell weighs 85, shouldn't Chell with the gun weigh 90 and not instead substract 5 from basic weight when throwing the gun out?

[@renkitten1]

that entire playthrough... only to softlock at the literal final action of the game...

[@AI_LANDO1]

real g's fw the portals being quantum tunneling and not GT's black hole theory

[@mxaa9776]

It would've been better if the portals required more mass to be disabled, but could actually turn into black holes and force you to restart the chamber.

[@Yipper64]

I love how the premise of this gimmick is "lets make portals more realistic" and then in practice its like "im gonna glitch out the game so we can beat it"

[@kip258]

Huh? The force entering a portal is zero. Are you referring to air pressure?

[@PortalRunner]

?? what is blud cooking

[@beans5601]

if the force entering the portal was zero, then it would be impossible for chell to fling herself via portals, so you’re wrong

[@kip258]

@@beans5601 No force is enacted on the portal itself. It is a wormhole.

[@Jaredracca-sp6wd]

It's caled Quantum tunneling so it would not create a black hole if this was programed

[@realStrombilly]

Not that the video isn't a neat idea, but the portal gun doesn't use wormholes. It uses quantum tunneling.

[@gormster]

0:10 this would have been a great point to drop in a card with a link to that video or, you know, link to it literally anywhere. Description, pinned comment, whatever.

[@MineRysss]

blackhole in the portal gun is just for cooling, portals are quantium tunneling in reaaaaaly big scale