Ported vs Sealed Enclosure Subwoofer Box Test with Decibel Meter Using My Daughters Bass Car

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Steve Young

Steve Young

Күн бұрын

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@darinp5612
@darinp5612 5 жыл бұрын
This, right here is a smart father. Got his daughter into car audio and now he can fill all "lay down" space in the vehicle with speakers. Hat's off to you!
@keragonzalez3735
@keragonzalez3735 3 жыл бұрын
Top comment regardless of likes.
@vikassm
@vikassm 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@levik9915
@levik9915 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@melindaortiz9741
@melindaortiz9741 3 жыл бұрын
Kinda silly
@brandoncole6358
@brandoncole6358 2 жыл бұрын
I just watch her sit on the subs
@grandhubert
@grandhubert 4 жыл бұрын
You’re a cool dad, my dad tutted and disapproved his way through to helping me install my first system and still complains about sounds systems in my car 20 years later. He still asks to listen to the system whenever I make changes though, I treasure those times with my Old Man... :)
@dinozaurpickupline4221
@dinozaurpickupline4221 4 жыл бұрын
hahaha fathers never approve upon daughters & their silence is approval typically I hope he's rocking solid Bless you & you dad;)
@GroundPoundersPlace
@GroundPoundersPlace 4 жыл бұрын
miss my old man. He would listen to mine also
@joemamma6138
@joemamma6138 3 жыл бұрын
Same with my old man brother, hates when I spend money on it but loves hearing it once I’m done 😂😂😂
@jeffreycastro8914
@jeffreycastro8914 3 жыл бұрын
That’s just the common denominator with fathers. I still remember the build I did for my father. He made me learn by myself the first time (through KZbin) then magically told me he did this too smh. Appreciate him though
@NemonicsRacing
@NemonicsRacing 3 жыл бұрын
@@dinozaurpickupline4221 I approve upon my daughter constantly. I need her to know there's 1 man in her life that will always support & help with all the crazy shit she does & wild ideas she has. when she gets in my suv, first thing she says is "can u play the stereo loud?" I can guarantee I'll be helping her with her system builds & upgrades
@TheLILWITEFITZ
@TheLILWITEFITZ 4 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure a ported box makes it much louder, but it does sound very different. Sealed boxes sound more “bumpy” while ported sounds more “boomy” to me.
@Michalslanskycz
@Michalslanskycz 10 ай бұрын
I have 15 inch sub sealed but it does not rumble in the chest pls any advice
@l_Knights_l
@l_Knights_l 9 ай бұрын
​@@Michalslanskycz What sub and amp are you running and what enclosure and I can do my best to help
@DJBLESSD
@DJBLESSD 5 ай бұрын
I got sealed and wonder if I should go ported. I don't know what bumpy or boomy implies.
@TheLILWITEFITZ
@TheLILWITEFITZ 5 ай бұрын
@@DJBLESSDyou would definitely notice a difference in the sound and you’ll probably realize exactly what I mean lol. Give it a try
@DJBLESSD
@DJBLESSD 5 ай бұрын
@@TheLILWITEFITZ yes a difference of better or worse I don't know and I guess to try it would let me know. Good shout. I just wonder if it will be a waste of time. The boxes to buy are 100 to 200 or I could try make it for like 50. "If in doubt check it out" 😉
@michaelws6247
@michaelws6247 5 жыл бұрын
MAN!!! I miss that old Fosgate. Those amps were insane, and the subs XLC HX2 HE2 power dvc..... USAC..... good times 😁😁
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 5 жыл бұрын
Solid equipment for sure, it makes me sad that RF stuff is no longer made in Temple AZ USA... thanks for watching and commenting!
@jaydee2620
@jaydee2620 5 жыл бұрын
The power line amps are as good or better than old school But I miss my old school RF shredder design. The punch and prime definitely not as good as old school
@danieleth1574
@danieleth1574 3 жыл бұрын
I still got 2 12´s Hx2 and nothing compares to them... not even Orion Subs :(
@XX-121
@XX-121 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaydee2620 yeah my buddy got a punch p3 and that thing was weak. i had one of those old cheap sony's that looked kinda like a hexagon just sitting around so we through it in there to make sure it wasn't the amp that was the weakest link.. man that sony blew that thing away. ended up trading him for the fosgate being i wasn't using the sony anyway. now i'm stuck with it.
@ponokanaka
@ponokanaka 4 жыл бұрын
I remember this subwoofer. I was running two sealed Massive CW 12's at the time. My best friend pulls up from the stereo shop and we go for a cruise around the block. A single Punch Power 15 in a huge Obcon ported box... the difference blew my mind! Fast forward 15ish years, I still think of that single sub setup.
@VincentsVideoVisions
@VincentsVideoVisions 4 жыл бұрын
that just makes me think of what you run today?
@ponokanaka
@ponokanaka 4 жыл бұрын
@@VincentsVideoVisions A single CT Sounds Strato 12 off a Cerwin Vega Stroker S91000.1D, and in my family car a VVX 10 off an Infinity K1000. Swapping a Wolfram AG12 this week. Not sure which car will end up with the AG yet, most like mine
@dump3deg6
@dump3deg6 Жыл бұрын
Damn keepin or old school. I love olllld fosgate stuff
@elwoodreed265
@elwoodreed265 4 жыл бұрын
This is all I was looking for. For like an hour. Thank you!!
@thehifiwifiguy
@thehifiwifiguy 4 жыл бұрын
What exactly were you looking for?
@Rohaku216
@Rohaku216 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah me too
@savagevidz149
@savagevidz149 4 жыл бұрын
This was a great vid. I just told my adult son..who is getting his first system..that he needs a sealed box...BECAUSE they hit harder. I was just proven wrong. Ive believed for years, that sealed hits harder. I had 2 old Kicker 15s in a sealed box and I used to set off Car alarms..and THAT was my guage. They sat in the back of a Sport Explorer and had plenty of airspace to expand. Thanks for the vid. Cheers from N SEATTLE
@ssjdavid
@ssjdavid 2 ай бұрын
Number ain’t everything
@sarahconner9433
@sarahconner9433 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos!! Great for Brianna!!! .... With larger area ports the db gain over sealed does get higher.. Eventually it does go 3 db louder... In fact sometimes more 4 to 5 db... But always prove it with a meter!!! Nobody argues with a good meter!!
@GroundPoundersPlace
@GroundPoundersPlace 4 жыл бұрын
Love the Old School car audio. I own a lot of old school gear, NIB (new in box)
@deadsypadilla
@deadsypadilla 3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/anfIhYeBaM13oaM
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 6 жыл бұрын
She's quite the basshead, just started her own channel - kzbin.info/door/TKrYsApDlmKB3v5tG7__3w?pbjreload=10 - She took 1st in Rookie at the Team Deadly Hertz show, you can see her meter run here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/aICXhJiAr62Wn5Y She is currently a 151.5, her latest competition was the Frozen SPL show - kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZm1YZqIitqVecU Thanks for watching and commenting! Please like & Subscribe!!!! - Meter used was an SSA APM1 Meter. The enclosure has separate chambers, 2.5cf each after displacements, with the port flares it is tuned to 35hz
@jeffrothegamer
@jeffrothegamer 6 жыл бұрын
Steve Young im running a prime 500 2ohm to a single p2 12 2 ohm in a p box single ported. It does good for 1.8 cf box but i want a lil more out of it ! Any help would be appreciated . Was thinkn bout goin to a p3 but i dont think the 500 prime can push it? Ty
@quintonnkoane9885
@quintonnkoane9885 4 жыл бұрын
What I've noticed is that, to gain 3db or more from the subs in a ported enclosure. You need an enclosure that's ridiculously large. As in like 2x larger. I prefer sealed honestly. My 12s are in a sealed enclosure.
@vikassm
@vikassm 3 жыл бұрын
Small sealed box for cars, large ported box for home theater 👍 Yes, they're usually 2x as large😂
@johnnycorn7225
@johnnycorn7225 3 жыл бұрын
This agrees with the iron law that of course more space makes more Bass. I've always loved triple or quadruple sealed setups because you can fit twice the drivers in the same amount of air space while maintaining a tighter more accurate sound that has more impact. I'm actually headed out to the garage right now to start building my sealed enclosure for three 12-in stereo integrity SQL 12s. They are the best deal out there by a mile if you want ultra high performance xbl2 motor sealed subwoofer setups. Ported can move a lot of air sure but you're never going to get that blur your eyeballs Hammer to the chest at a concert perfect drums feeling out of them.
@XX-121
@XX-121 3 жыл бұрын
sealed sounds better and hits lower. if you're going for spl then yeah ported. but i'm into SQ these days.
@johnnycorn7225
@johnnycorn7225 3 жыл бұрын
@@XX-121 if you run enough power on sealed it's still loud but has that concentrated impact and clarity and transient ability that ported doesn't it's worth running twice the power to a sealed setup
@lancebrown8823
@lancebrown8823 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I was hitting sealed back in 90's. Soundstream..
@PizzaDave802
@PizzaDave802 3 жыл бұрын
Two of those punch power DVC 12s in a sealed box & a crossfire 1000 D in the trunk of a 87 cougar was one of my all time favorite setups
@kousinkielbasa4244
@kousinkielbasa4244 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, those DVC's are still gettin it!! Really miss That RF line from back in the day.
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 5 жыл бұрын
A lot of people now days don't appreciate how loud the oldschool stuff can get. I'm kinda sad that Rockford is no longer USA made :( Thanks for watching and commenting!
@Nico-jk4sb
@Nico-jk4sb 3 жыл бұрын
@@E4EonEbay were the old school subs and amps really that loud tho? my dad always tells me that the systems back then were really loud but then i went to an audio shop w him and he told one of the newer younger guys how it used to get loud and the dude started sayin that its better now n u can pay half the price for double the output but idk i didnt live thru the 80’s and 90’s when bass was really common, anyways im jus trynna ask if the old school stuff was as loud as they are today
@MrDjspoon79
@MrDjspoon79 3 жыл бұрын
I had those 15's and amps back in 1999. In a ford escort.
@jayboley9683
@jayboley9683 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nico-jk4sb Yes they were. The main brands like Rockford, JL, Cerwin Vega, xtant, Us amps, ppi, Zapco, eclipse, Alpine, and of course Kicker we're the shit and very expensive.
@kevinAuman1
@kevinAuman1 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, don't know if anyone has said it or not yet but brother your daughter is cuuute! That is just awesome that you got her into bass AND competing even, doesn't get no better than that right there!!!
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 5 жыл бұрын
She has since switched up her equipment and is doing a 151.5 sealed at the comps. Thanks for watching!
@kevinAuman1
@kevinAuman1 5 жыл бұрын
@@E4EonEbay niiiiice, what is she running for equipment now? I have two skar Sk3500's strapped on a set of Dave Leib upgraded sundown x12's and I'm right around same score as her but I'm tuned crazy low for subsonic suicide...
@kevinAuman1
@kevinAuman1 5 жыл бұрын
@@E4EonEbay I been wanting to buy some larger subs tho, I can't decide if I wanna grab & run 1 nsv4 15 now and another later or grab a set of zv5's...
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 5 жыл бұрын
@@kevinAuman1 she is currently running two Sundown zv3 15s on a Team Cactus 5k
@4ortnite20
@4ortnite20 6 ай бұрын
NIIICCCEEEEE
@stevefox3763
@stevefox3763 4 жыл бұрын
I'll never go ported, sealed sounds so much better. Its tighter, punchier, more accurate bass and it has a far better general response across frequencies vs a ported box that sounds baggy and is tuned to sound loud on a very narrow frequency band
@theegreatest9322
@theegreatest9322 Жыл бұрын
Still running sealed? But I agree the sound quality is something else wit a sealed enclosure.
@jamieclary5350
@jamieclary5350 2 жыл бұрын
I hit a 157.5 at an SPL comp back in 2001 running 3 JL 12’s and a punch 800A2
@evilinside5984
@evilinside5984 2 ай бұрын
Thats not on a Term Lab= new style pressure sensor type SPL meter. I had a walled 2-15" Power Hx2 Rockfords, with 2-Bd 1500s strapped, & I hit a 164Db on the old style SPL meter back then. When i ✔ it later on, with a New Term Lab meter, it only did a 149.9Db to my surprise= the new meter showed over 14 Db Less👀, everything was the same, metering positioning, subs, enclosure, amps, wiring, batteries(6 Qty.) & 1 alternator. Now to be fair, the old Audio Control meters could be manipulated by +, or - 10 Db with a knob. But even when calibrated properly, these old SPL meters lost there calibration very quickly, making them very inconsistent @ best. Not to mention that + or - 10 Db knob that i have seen used to cheat scores during a competition to make a fellow friend or competitor score "Louder", then turn the knob back down, to be able to win! These new Term Lab meters can NOT be manipulated/changed, to prevent cheating. Sorry if this hurts your feelings, but your 157.5 Db score would probably be about a 143Db to 145Db on the Term Lab SPL meter, which was not used in 2001 yet.
@gamalierestradajr
@gamalierestradajr 4 жыл бұрын
RF 15"'s & amps look serious!! Love the original Punch stuff hit so hard back then.
@txroaddogg1709
@txroaddogg1709 6 жыл бұрын
Man I love those old 1100@2 amps. A ton of clean raw power and very underrated
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 6 жыл бұрын
Those 1100a2 amps helped carry me to an undefeated rookie season competing in NADBL, they are beasts for sure! Thanks for watching and commenting
@justinberg5476
@justinberg5476 5 жыл бұрын
Most fosgate amps are under rated... i got a p325.1 running four dvc 12s and it beats for 300 watts
@bobswinehart3646
@bobswinehart3646 6 жыл бұрын
Short and sweet. Great video. And no swearing. Which is why I subscribed.
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 6 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching and commenting!
@mentalityoverall9250
@mentalityoverall9250 4 жыл бұрын
🖕🏽
@rationalguy2941
@rationalguy2941 3 жыл бұрын
In most instances a given drivers optimal ported volume is much larger than it’s optimal sealed volume. That’s why there’s usually a much larger dB difference between the two enclosure types.
@princetonmoving4235
@princetonmoving4235 Жыл бұрын
I got a big old school sealed box and it sounds amazing
@gladememmott3001
@gladememmott3001 10 ай бұрын
What about inverted subs? Wgats the difference?
@robertjcarr123
@robertjcarr123 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see this setup still exist I remember seeing a demo on here years ago I don't remember whose channel it was
@Kcducttaper1
@Kcducttaper1 4 жыл бұрын
You've probably gone on to a different setup by now, but I wonder what your air speed is in those ports. They might be compressing your output. Also, porting increases the volume at a specific frequency, so it's not necessarily 'supposed' to be +3dB everywhere in the range. Your port tuning and your listening area's tuning are two very different things.
@azcheron
@azcheron 4 жыл бұрын
But what sounds better? I had a sealed box with two Rockford Fosgate punch 12s and a 700watt Rockford amp and it was some of the tightest and cleanest bass and would put out 144db without any stress.
@imdbtruth
@imdbtruth 2 жыл бұрын
The old school Rockford stuff sounds great! This what I used to rock back in the 90s, but I still have some of it.
@robstory173
@robstory173 5 жыл бұрын
Radio will make a big difference as well. You could easily upgrade that jvc radio and gain more juice for your sounds.
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 5 жыл бұрын
She is running a Punch X crossover which gives a decent bump in RCA signal voltage. I run a Rockford PA1 preamp in my jeep and can get above 8v clean signal to my amps. Definitely makes a difference having strong signal and a lower noise floor. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@floridalottery3134
@floridalottery3134 5 жыл бұрын
Yup Pioneer FTW!
@paulkremneff8033
@paulkremneff8033 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome old school setup, i had some of the fosgate stuff in the late 90’s, was awesome!!
@FATHERSOFBASS
@FATHERSOFBASS 5 жыл бұрын
Dope... I wstched that vid when you did the comparison a while back... Nice that you passed it down to your " 15yr" old daughter... Sheeesh all the creepers come out pisses me off... Much love n respect to your love of bass and your family homie...
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 5 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated, its expected to run into some creeps on the net. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@FATHERSOFBASS
@FATHERSOFBASS 5 жыл бұрын
Steve Young im always wayching anything car audio homie... I apreciate you posting and making it fun and all ypur tests and knowledge is really great and super awaome dogg thank ypu
@jaydee2620
@jaydee2620 5 жыл бұрын
It’s awesome that you gave that system to your daughter and encourage car audio. All I ever heard from my parents My parents was “Waste of money” and “Turn that shit down” lol
@trentdawg2832
@trentdawg2832 4 жыл бұрын
You got audiophiles and pedophiles. ...lol
@justScrollin0627
@justScrollin0627 3 жыл бұрын
This question might have been asked and answered already in the comment thread but..Would you say in a music listening scenario instead of a db scenario, the sealed gives a better ,tighter, accurate bass response and is worth the loss of 1 plus some change db?? Thanks if you feel like answering! 👍🙏
@johnnycorn7225
@johnnycorn7225 3 жыл бұрын
Since nobody answered I will I absolutely know that the flatter response and better transient response of sealed makes it far superior for me but then again I'm a 46 year old musician that's been a lot of time on a metronome. Also the earthquake reproduction characteristic of sealed where it literally displaces a section of air in your vehicle that is heaven and a ported does not do this it just fans around a whole bunch of air from the port and sub. It never has that instant earthquake shock type impact to it and I like that.
@Kotaztrafee
@Kotaztrafee 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I would like to see the same experiment done with frequency range.
@killerrush77
@killerrush77 5 жыл бұрын
i loved my old rockford subs like those.
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 5 жыл бұрын
They bring back memories for so many people. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix
@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix 5 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see the dB reading at 20-25hz sealed vs ported. I'm interested to see which will hit harder on the low frequencies. Great video.
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting. I'm assuming if the ported side were tuned low enough it could be quite interesting to see. I did do a video showing the excursion side by side playing 20hz - kzbin.info/www/bejne/nX7NgZ16nZmVgZY
@MyAudioPipe
@MyAudioPipe 5 жыл бұрын
If the ported box is Tuned right. It vil be louder at Lower frequencies.
@apc2729
@apc2729 4 жыл бұрын
Sealed has almost flat response over Low frequencies. If you have a powerful amp and a subwoofer, go for sealed for hard hitting bass
@satanas666reyna3
@satanas666reyna3 6 жыл бұрын
Old school yeahhh brings back memories
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 6 жыл бұрын
I ran that setup for the majority of my rookie season with NADBL, those oldschool subs helped carry me to an undefeated rookie season. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@greggarner4477
@greggarner4477 3 жыл бұрын
Dad like me.. I also build stereos in the kids cars. Old school Rockford Fosgate too!! Thank you!!
@bigrich7026
@bigrich7026 3 жыл бұрын
We used to get a lot of db gain on isobaric 3 chamber, all ported, 2 drivers. 30 years ago. I preferred conventional boxes for sound quality..these days if you put 2000 watts to a 10" maybe you won't miss the conventional feel?
@ChryslerScorpionau
@ChryslerScorpionau 5 жыл бұрын
Mate. Every 3 DB gain is double the Power. To get 1.5 DB gain is great stuff and half power more for free
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting! I should do a video using the meter to illustrate the gains from doubling power, I would want to clamp the amps or use an SMD Amm1 to show a power read out to confirm the power is doubled, would make a cool video.
@fuckgoogleandyou8779
@fuckgoogleandyou8779 5 жыл бұрын
Easy man easy on Dem ol subs
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 5 жыл бұрын
@@fuckgoogleandyou8779 they can take it 💪
@Mitchelmp5
@Mitchelmp5 5 жыл бұрын
appculture I thought it was double every 10db.
@DonutLord32
@DonutLord32 3 жыл бұрын
So was not expecting he 1st test. Had the sounds up and started the hell out of me
@grominwithrob1339
@grominwithrob1339 2 жыл бұрын
I have had so many systems but easily my favorite was back when I had a pair of Fosgate DVC 12's in a sealed box running off a MTX Black Gold amp. I just haven't been able to find a sub with the same force factor. I went to 4 12" JL audio 12w3 running off twice the power. It was loud but nothing even close to the beating the 2 Fosgate DVC 12's would give you. I wish Rockford Fosgate would release a classic series of car audio where the legends that made the company would be available. I would buy multiple systems just to have backups of everything.
@YipperX5
@YipperX5 2 жыл бұрын
I had a similar situation with my triple audiobahn alum10q's. Friend if mine has 3 as well. Mine are sealed and his is ported and we can not find any major differences between the outputs. The difference is that he rebuilt his with dual 4ohm coils and I am using all stock from the shelf subs. I assume that is because AFAIK these are supposed to be in a sealed setup from per manufacture specs. His setup is approximately 2db louder but they sound identical according to the crowd :D
@JohnSmith-qt7ul
@JohnSmith-qt7ul 2 жыл бұрын
Those are some of the best amps ever made. Very nice!
@mikebham4638
@mikebham4638 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve moved my boxes around my trunk just to see if the box is facing your back you get different thump or set up as close to the rear as you can speakers facing the rear.
@SparkedEd
@SparkedEd 5 жыл бұрын
That's a great score for some legendary gear
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, it is stuff that was built to last for sure. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@robshekelberg5315
@robshekelberg5315 6 жыл бұрын
Your daughter is cute and the fact that she liked audio is a major plus (dont take it the wrong way) lol
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 6 жыл бұрын
No offense taken, it's always nice to be able to share a hobby with your children
@hazerain7354
@hazerain7354 5 жыл бұрын
@@davidlodiemyer5698 ahhahaha
@chiefcheems1404
@chiefcheems1404 5 жыл бұрын
(RING RING)...”yeah FBI, this man right here”
@FATHERSOFBASS
@FATHERSOFBASS 5 жыл бұрын
How old are you bro!!!!!!???? Rob??? Cause shes 15 i think she just turned it and your sick asfuck... If i was steve ill beat the shit out of ypu in fact if i knew where ypu was at id still beat the shit out of you... Dick face...
@jaydee8285
@jaydee8285 5 жыл бұрын
Yea you definitely shouldn't take it serious a guy saying someone is cute...not manly lol
@leedempster4743
@leedempster4743 2 жыл бұрын
I’m hoping my kids will love this also give us more to do together… I’m hitting 110 with just a random set up. None name brand system with Pioneer radio touchscreen
@90210sky
@90210sky 2 жыл бұрын
to gain 1 db you have to double sound level, so its a huge gain. db works in a logaritmic scale not in a linear one
@davidmarles9409
@davidmarles9409 2 жыл бұрын
Actually it's know that doubling power gains about 3 db on average. You can double the amount of speakers and get about the same 3db with that as well. Takes about 3 db for someone to notice a difference in "loudness"
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidmarles9409 that therory always sounds good on paper, and may work at lower db levels but that idea goes out the window at high SPL levels.
@davidmarles9409
@davidmarles9409 2 жыл бұрын
@@E4EonEbay I'm sorry I have to disagree. There are plenty of videos that prove this is very accurate.
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidmarles9409 show me a video where someone is doing 160+db where they simply double their power and gain 3db... do you ever attend serious audio competitions?
@davidmarles9409
@davidmarles9409 2 жыл бұрын
@@E4EonEbay I absolutely do and have gone to comps since the early 90's and you know as well as I do that's not what I meant. Once you have achieved the max power your speakers can take this obviously isn't true. Also there is way more to car audio spl than in a building where this holds much more true because a car obviously deflects and panel flex affects max spl....I know what I am talking about and this video wasn't referring to anything like you are saying. Also I listen to real music not test tones and most of us like an even volume through all the bass frequencies not just a specific frequency for spl. I prefer quality over loud.
@lelemorris7549
@lelemorris7549 3 жыл бұрын
I think it depends on your preference I notice a ported box sounds very good in my Tahoe but in a car it sounds like a lot of rattling but sealed boxes sounds good in my car and Tahoe just not as much bass outside so I feel it depends on the vehicle and enclosed trunk or not and a open space trunk I feel ported sounds better in trucks and seal sound better in cars
@RichardsWorld
@RichardsWorld 2 жыл бұрын
Great example. Can you measure the difference of facing the woofers forward vs backwards and upwards?
@guestguest
@guestguest 3 жыл бұрын
Ported sounds better outside the vehicle. Sealed sounds better inside the vehicle.
@travisj.1938
@travisj.1938 5 жыл бұрын
Love that box. Saw it on EXO's channel.
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it is very recognizable for sure, it's a fun box to play with. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@travisj.1938
@travisj.1938 5 жыл бұрын
@@E4EonEbay keep up the great work Steve. Not only can you build a bad ass box but you were a half descent Quarterback as well 😉! LoL
@Mikesalas1989
@Mikesalas1989 5 жыл бұрын
That’s a badass set-up all fosgate!
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching And Commenting!
@josiejohnson3316
@josiejohnson3316 5 жыл бұрын
Have you tried to keep one plug in to see what kinda change that would make
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 5 жыл бұрын
Excursion wise yes, you can see the difference here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/nX7NgZ16nZmVgZY but not on the meter I think it would drastically lower the score. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@mcnairdn
@mcnairdn 3 жыл бұрын
Tuning with a port gains dB at the tuning frequency. The port tune should be at the most efficient frequency for the speaker box design for just boom or after roll off to gain bass extention in a flat out put design
@jesserandolph4853
@jesserandolph4853 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video reminds me of back in 1998 when I was running 4 punch power DVC 15 with 2 punch power 1000s in a 1987 merkur xr4ti competing in spl competition as a privateer going up against all the car audio shops good stuff man
@illegalregal9577
@illegalregal9577 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video! I love that old school Fosgate setup too, and it's awesome that you've passed it on. Seems like the best part about a hobby is passing it on to your children :)
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 4 жыл бұрын
All three of my kids are into audio, its a great feeling, if we don't pass out hobbies and interests on to our kids they will fade. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@illegalregal9577
@illegalregal9577 4 жыл бұрын
You are so right, that's why I wanna have kids someday to enjoy loud bass with and keep the hobby going :)
@scottyboy6535
@scottyboy6535 3 жыл бұрын
That’s dedication to music right there!
@benvasilinda9729
@benvasilinda9729 5 жыл бұрын
I just turned 46 this week and I have a 22 year old daughter named Brianna and I installed her system myself like I have done for my trucks for the last 30 years.
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 5 жыл бұрын
That's awesome man! We gotta keep our children involved in the hobby of car audio so the passion can carry on to future generations. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@benvasilinda9729
@benvasilinda9729 5 жыл бұрын
Steve Young agreed 💯%.
@BattleWizard_1
@BattleWizard_1 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your time on explaining the difference between sealed and ported. Good video
@josephbowen1407
@josephbowen1407 4 жыл бұрын
These were some of the top speakers back in the Day, and Kickers not so good at that time
@jarviskemp1988
@jarviskemp1988 5 жыл бұрын
I miss those old amps so much 😢😢
@trentdawg2832
@trentdawg2832 4 жыл бұрын
I got one of those amps a 750w pushing to JL 12's in my wife's mbz. ....
@deadsypadilla
@deadsypadilla 3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/anfIhYeBaM13oaM
@cavitycreep
@cavitycreep 3 жыл бұрын
I still got my autotek and orions amps from 1992
@johnoates3326
@johnoates3326 Ай бұрын
What about cabin pressure if u roll the windows down it might be a higher score
@markmartin1263
@markmartin1263 2 жыл бұрын
does the 4" x 14" port mean 4" diameter tube cut to 14" length? I thought it meant a rectangle cutout 4" high and 14" wide. I think it needs a larger port than the 4" diameter. Which is correct?
@phreaktor
@phreaktor 2 жыл бұрын
Did you account for the volume of the external ports when designing the box?
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 2 жыл бұрын
Roughly 100 cubic inches for a cylinder 4x8 or 0.058 cubic feet added to the sealed volume per side so 2.558 cf sealed vs 2.5 cf ported would technically be more accurate. I honestly don't feel that 0.058cf (0.232% difference to be exact) in volume would have altered the outcome enough to mention. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@MixedGoku
@MixedGoku 5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful comparison
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@avrajsamra4548
@avrajsamra4548 6 жыл бұрын
can ported boxes be just as accurate as sealed boxes? im a newbie and ive seen a lot of mixed answers about this! btw love the old school rockford stuff! im running old school 90s 10's, my dad used to have old school fosgate 15 s on a 650 mosfet!
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 6 жыл бұрын
Those 650 mosfets were beast amps! Yes, if properly designed a ported enclosure can perform just as accurate as a sealed enclosure, it all depends on design and proper construction.
@maniacalmonster2293
@maniacalmonster2293 3 жыл бұрын
Right, but with a ported box the bass travels farther and a closed box people will hear the bass hit harder closer to you. A ported box people will hear the bass farther away from you because it travels
@allenkey1503
@allenkey1503 3 жыл бұрын
In my concern, i prefer a sealed box, large as you can. Because i'm a dj and club's conceptor, i'm also a music lover. But a lot of peoples love the sound of ported enclosures. I don't discuss that, And build a lot of ported for them. So, my point is about the phase of the port.. You could'nt make a real waves with a mécanical off-phase output in this configuration.. I prefer compansate the roll off by more power and good equalisation, who let clean lower band make me smiling.
@junie11db
@junie11db 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been lookin all over but I’m trying to see if anybody has ran both sealed and ported boxes at the same time ? .. I’ve done it before in my mustang ... ported 12s in the trunk facing tag .. and the sealed box was right behind it facing the cabin poking out through the back seat! It made my windshield flex ! I was using a 2400 watt mono block Lanzer
@adam8137
@adam8137 5 жыл бұрын
Love those old school fosgates
@raulfernandez9111
@raulfernandez9111 3 жыл бұрын
I can hear the bass response difference in the video. The sealed was a cleaner tone and the port open was like a hum.
@kenhaze5230
@kenhaze5230 5 жыл бұрын
3 dB is the theoretical max at the tuning frequency of the port where the back and front waves are perfectly in phase. Obviously people expecting 3 dB across the spectrum will be disappointed! But ported is still a good bet when well tuned. Even for SQ, with a blindfold and optimal tuning, and especially in a car, almost no one could tell the difference (except the ported would be louder and therefore better).
@bazrazin1
@bazrazin1 5 жыл бұрын
what do you think of class d amps, so tiny, more than 90% efficient, very less heat, excellent freq. response.
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 5 жыл бұрын
Class D amps are fine for bass in my opinion, however I do not feel they are suitable for mids and highs if you are using quality set of component speakers and looking for the best sound quality. I'm sure the majority of people wouldn't notice but for those still listening to cd's instead of bluetooth from youtube they would notice. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@turntup3250
@turntup3250 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Tuned in for the other tests specially the cone area test 1 15 vs 2 15s
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 5 жыл бұрын
Hopefully I can get one done soon, still crappy weather up this way, snow / rain mix last night. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@andrewdenine1685
@andrewdenine1685 4 жыл бұрын
Mine is a huge difference sealed vs ported. For sealed I would need a bigger amp.
@onesikm3
@onesikm3 Жыл бұрын
I actually felt my sealed box hits harder than my recently installed ported box. But mainly I see the gains going to a ported enclosure is air cooling and venting the heat out of the woofer which will give you more life out of your electronics! I’ll never buy a sealed box ever again
@CLIFFWILKES
@CLIFFWILKES 4 жыл бұрын
Hey thank you for the information appreciated... however in the vehicle can you feel a significant difference ?
@mjl6425
@mjl6425 4 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison but I wonder how much of a difference there would be sealed if you just took the ports out instead of plugging them?
@skymiller7035
@skymiller7035 4 жыл бұрын
Wanting to know more about your setup. I got the same DVC 15s sealed but trying to still find RF amps to match. Are you running at 1ohm or 2ohm. Any upgrades to charging system so on.tia
@todddooley793
@todddooley793 6 жыл бұрын
Cool video man thanks! I remember your setup on EXO's channel and even remember thinking, it'd be cool to see numbers. Thanks again!
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 6 жыл бұрын
Your welcome, thanks for watching and commenting!
@juliuswashington9734
@juliuswashington9734 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video.. I have a sealed box that I haven’t used since I bought it.. I’m not trying to hit SPL level.. just I nice tight bass
@nuclearbum9858
@nuclearbum9858 2 жыл бұрын
he did this with equal size boxes the numbers wont change much or any if he removed the port. to get a bigger number from the ported box you would have to go bigger which is a whole different animal but for apples to apples this is a great video ..i have 9 15s i plan to use in a build and i want to go sealed just for the space savings all the subs inverted
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 2 жыл бұрын
I know most subs require a larger enclosure when going ported however according to the manual the optimal recommended enclosure size for both sealed or ported for these drivers is 2.5cf. Thanks for watching
@Newschoolcovers
@Newschoolcovers 5 жыл бұрын
Are the 36hz the tuning frequency? Then it should be way more than like 1,5db. If so, your ports are too small and compress very hard what makes them behave like a closed box on high spl due to much port speed.
@hoseahanslip9190
@hoseahanslip9190 4 жыл бұрын
I understand the loudness... But, how does the SOUND vary between sealed and ported with regular music?!! Does one hit harder than the other?
@garrettgiuffre7298
@garrettgiuffre7298 Жыл бұрын
Man I want the bass I didn't hear I really only felt it then noticed it from the windows of this Tahoe looking like Jello. I want this but I don't want to love all my space and shovel out tons of cash. Is it possible to get that from small and affordable?
@RudyM2024
@RudyM2024 6 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter if u win by a dB or a mile, winning is winning!.. I am a ported box guy can u tell? Lol good video and congrats for the win!
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@RudyM2024
@RudyM2024 6 жыл бұрын
I got nostalgic watching this. Last time I saw 2 Punch Power DVC 15s I installed them in a navigator, custom box with mirrors inside using Aeroports pushed by an Orion HCCA 250. It was humping!
@goodstuffohhyeah
@goodstuffohhyeah 5 жыл бұрын
Humping?
@pureonyx5090
@pureonyx5090 5 жыл бұрын
Great video 👍 and congrats on her win. Definitely love old school equipment !!!!!
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting! The oldschool equipment always brings back memories.
@AllaboutTheWoodrows
@AllaboutTheWoodrows 5 жыл бұрын
Old setup forsure if it ain’t broke don’t fix it ; ) I always replaced my subs when I blew them up havnt gotten to use my w710 as much as I’d like to
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 5 жыл бұрын
It's amazing the durability of the USA made oldschool equipment. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@zumazoomzoom7632
@zumazoomzoom7632 3 жыл бұрын
The tone changes with the port vs sealed. One better for punchy bass one for longer harder bass
@salscrofano7870
@salscrofano7870 4 жыл бұрын
It definitely does make a difference, I had a scar ddx 12 in a sealed box and just switched to scar’s ported box and there’s a big difference, it sounds way better and has better low range bass
@iseeyou9078
@iseeyou9078 3 жыл бұрын
Completely different parameters for the scar DDX.
@tylerbusch9999
@tylerbusch9999 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like every young persons first setup, “including myself” had a somewhat old school system. Gotta appreciate the old equipment. If a girl came up to me and said she was doing 145+ with some punches I woulda called BS 😂
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 5 жыл бұрын
Its amazing to think they can still hang with some of the modern equipment out there. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@anthonyabner5753
@anthonyabner5753 5 жыл бұрын
This is where it started. They is A lot of technology out there but things have the same concept.
@scottychadwick9580
@scottychadwick9580 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed the passenger climate display light has went out mine went out to was wondering if it was from beating on the dash to eject CDs from Factory CD player
@slippyg
@slippyg 4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tested it when suspended in mid air?
@christianparks5343
@christianparks5343 4 жыл бұрын
Wtf? Lmao
@alchemyhendricks725
@alchemyhendricks725 4 жыл бұрын
Old school Fosgate for the win!
@malvizar85
@malvizar85 6 жыл бұрын
Can the old school fosgate 2 channel amps like 700s, 800.2 and the 4 channel power 400.4 be bridged and each channel ran at 2 ohms? I chatted with Rockford fosgate, and they said no, 4 ohm minimum per channel on those amps bridged. Thanks
@txroaddogg1709
@txroaddogg1709 6 жыл бұрын
Rockford technicians are not gonna tell u what those amps are really capable of. The are stable at 2 ohm. U can even run them at 1 ohm but they are not stable. Will heat up real quick and u will burn it up if ur not capable. I run mines at 2 ohm all day long and have never had a problem
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 6 жыл бұрын
I have ran my power 1100a2 amps at 2 ohms mono all day long, if fed properly, keeping your voltage high and stable they don't heat up too much. I have even ran them in short bursts at 1 ohm mono for competitions and they have held up and not died on me.
@jermainephillips5179
@jermainephillips5179 4 жыл бұрын
I had those subs they bang.lot of power for them.i still have a power 1000 from that series.next yr model after the 1100
@zglphillips-panui7624
@zglphillips-panui7624 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta seal one and port the other, i think you would cover more bass frequencies
@SaGeMitis
@SaGeMitis 5 жыл бұрын
Blocking off the ports makes it bigger when sealed bc the ported volume doesn't include port displacement and when you seal it off the ports become part of the sealed enclosure, thus making the sealed more like 2.55ish
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 5 жыл бұрын
You are correct in that there will be roughly 100 cubic inches for a cylinder 4x8 or 0.058 cubic feet added to the sealed volume per side so 2.558 cf sealed vs 2.5 cf ported would technically be more accurate. I honestly don't feel that 0.058cf (less than 1% , 0.232% to be exact) difference in volume would have altered the outcome enough to mention. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@SaGeMitis
@SaGeMitis 5 жыл бұрын
@@E4EonEbay thanks for taking the time to show the difference tho👍
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 5 жыл бұрын
@@SaGeMitis no worries, it's a fun box to play with, it's no longer in her car. She is running 2 sundown zv3 15s on a Team Cactus 5k at the moment. I still have the Rockfords and the box though. The interesting videos on my channel is the one where I play 20hz sealed vs ported side by side.
@coltonnewman8283
@coltonnewman8283 5 жыл бұрын
I watched this video because I recognized the subs and box on the thumbnail
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 5 жыл бұрын
It's a pretty recognizable enclosure no doubt, EXO made it well known for sure! Thanks for watching and commenting!
@pballer2005
@pballer2005 3 жыл бұрын
I know this is an old video and also not your goal, but it would be really cool to see a real world frequency response curve on ported vs sealed on this setup
@E4EonEbay
@E4EonEbay 3 жыл бұрын
Me too, unfortunately the box has been retired, perhaps I will build another and do some more experiments
@eros40oz211
@eros40oz211 5 жыл бұрын
Can we get a quick view of battery, alternator, and any electric components I.E., caps
@thehifiwifiguy
@thehifiwifiguy 4 жыл бұрын
What do you expect it to look lie? Look at the wiring you can see. It's awful, and borderline dangerous. I wouldn't let my daughter drive a half-a$$ed system like that. You can save money, but still install thing with pride. This system is as sloppy as I've seen.
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