Porting & Motor Swapping a 'NASCAR' Retail Gun: How Much Power it Can Make?

[@TorqueTestChannel]

The custom TGSL isn't staying on the rank list of course, because you can't purchase one. We're working to try and get REAL motorsports pit guns run on nitrogen tanks, hopefully soon! Torque of TTC is working for Astro Tools who also make impact wrenches (whose experience we leaned on when making modifications to this gun here). TTC is not the only testing out there, always consider multiple sources when looking at a tool!

[@gmills5763]

Can you try running it on an unregulated 3000 psi tank of something kicking around the shop? N2? O2? C2H2?

[@JCWren]

UNREGULATED? Are you trying to kill these guys?

[@TorqueTestChannel]

@@gmills5763 The next video would be a funeral livestream

[@nickdavydov9615]

Y'all should try putting nitrogen at higher and higher pressures progressively to different impacts that are known for being reliable at high pressures to see if they could take it, and if you could squeeze even more power out in tough situations.

[@nickdavydov9615]

That's true though. It would be a bit dangerous.

[@darkoneokc]

Sometimes it’s not just psi, it’s volume at a psi. 1/4 NPT is very limiting, as is 3/8. At those pressures I would say push it through a 1/2 in line and retest. Just my 2 cents. Love the videos. Keep up the good work.

[@PhilScordato]

You're absolutely 💯 correct on this.

[@Alex_Janito23]

Also we appreciate the long tests but in reality the first 1-2 seconds matter the most, especially in this test for pit lane guns as fast as you can get them off & back on is the big thing

[@lunchboxproductions1183]

You'll get a pretty significant pressure drop as well once air is flowing. Would be interesting to see what a pressure gauge installed in a tee fitting right before the gun reads as the test progresses.

[@PhilScordato]

@@lunchboxproductions1183 that's a great idea.

[@Hipsters_N_Hippies]

I use Milton G-Style fittings/couplers. With 1/2”npt - 3/4”barb adapters with 3/4”I.d. (Jack hammer) hose and a regulator near the tool. Milton g-style also has 1/4” mnpt fittings for tools restricted to using only that. And they also have 3/8” and 1/2” fittings for tools that can take advantage of that as well.

[@timpretzsch2609]

The Ingersoll Rand Titanium is still the best gun I have ever owned, had it about 18 years and it still outperforms most newer guns..

[@_P0tat07_]

Instead of getting a nascar pit gun, can you take your dyno rig to the nascar pit? I’m sure there has to be someone out there that could get you there. That way you can test it under their conditions.

[@wyattp9152]

One thing to remember is the F1 and other "race" guns are meant for speed first and only need to get to the spec torque, where as well our "working" guns are meant for more ugh duggas.

[@nate6386]

Yup. I remember a video where they talked about how are tuned to hit the right torque in forward and no more. The big thing was how fast it was. Even the socket looks weird because let's them just slam it on over the nut without having to get it aligned.

[@dannymayer3294]

@@ASJC27 correct however nascar is swapping to the 1 lug for the 2022 season

[@theomnipresent1]

@@ASJC27 How the hell do they get 2000 lb-ft out of those guns?

[@seldoon_nemar]

​@@theomnipresent1 I'm not sure if it's true anymore, but I know F1 used to run helium from industrial bottles for their guns. the lighter gas allowed even higher RPM the same way it makes your voice go up. they might have swapped to nitrogen as it's more sustainable but I have no idea, I don't actually follow F1, I've just wanted to try an ugga dugga on helium since I heard that

[@thomasr1051]

Ugga*

[@wild_lee_coyote]

I remember watching high speed film of the lugs being removed in nascar. They were onto the next lug before the first lug has spun itself of the bolt. It was interesting seeing a nut spin itself off after a brief touch of the air gun. Very cool.

[@stephengough8546]

Commenting on 11/27/2022. As a user of the Paoli race guns in Indycar and Sportscar I can tell you that the difference between the guns shown here and those used on current center nut spindles is night and day. We run nearly 500 psi line pressure through huge hoses from a manifold with at least 5 full nitrogen bottles wide open. High pressure, high flow. These bottles are often changed during a race (multiple times during Sportscar races). They will break a wrist if you aren't ready. In the event of a stubborn nut it's always best to "burst" the trigger, a constant pull is less effective. Guns, which tend to be custom built by he teams, are rebuilt after every race weekend, race guns are only used during the race itself, we have separate practice guns for the other sessions. The motors tend to be titanium, the vanes are carbon fiber, the front housing is also carbon fiber. They have oversized heads on the reverse shuttles to enable the user to hit it easily or in the case of Indycar (where the tire changer swaps wheels himself) to drop it and switch it as it hits the ground. Some guns are auto reverse after sensing the load decrease after loosening the nut.

[@tommays56]

I would imagine that a lot of the NASCAR mods really limited the life expectancy and would be a warranty nightmare

[@benmiller5015]

I think a new series where you use those old school tricks on other air guns to see if you can steal a few more beans out of them would be cool. Especially on some of the weaker, less impressive guns

[@NBSV1]

The porting and clean up tricks can really help some cheap and weak guns. They often have rough castings and small passages that really limit airflow. I've seen some good improvements on just removing some flashing and opening up the ports a little bit.

[@TheUncleRuckus]

Hell yeah I'd be down to watch, if for nothing else but to learn some tuning tips lol.

[@smitty2jones]

That was the first impact I bought as a professional tech! Lasted me like 10 years!

[@danielmcconnell1096]

I purchased this same thunder gun impact over 2 years ago and have have used it and abused it in heavy diesel truck environment all the while using non regulated 180 psi air going into it from a 1/2" over sized hose. It lost the grippy strip and the rubber cover but the paint coating has held up very well, I oil it every time I use it and it hasn't failed yet. It gets the job done 90% of the time and the other 10% you have to use a bigger impact anyway. For the price you pay on this impact you get a very reliable model and one that can handle what you throw at it.

[@NeutronLD50]

It would be interesting to port the Harbor Freight air impacts to see how they perform after. Everyone likes a good "how can I squeeze more performance out of my Harbor Freight value" themed video!

[@300DBenz]

Forget Harbor Freight, they should hotrod the ol’ green DP! It might make double the power!

[@ronblack7870]

do the husky 800 ft lbs air gun from home depot. it's only like 115 bucks but hits really hard.

[@208Concepts]

The problem with the HF tools is that the casting is horrible. I tried fixing a die grinder by facing it's motor to the housing and never got it to "seal". I'll stick with my IR die grinders 😁

[@208Concepts]

@@BenSwoloest cheaper than the $70 IR I bet. I'll try one the next time I buy a grinder.

[@davidb6576]

It would be interesting to run the tests again with larger quick-connects to see how (if) they're choking the flow, or even just from the line only. I have a vague memory of TTC already doing something like that, but with a hot gun it might be a more dramatic change.

[@braveraxeblade]

I really hope you can get your hands on a Paoli 1” gun. I’ve seen them torque to 1100 ft/lbs under pit stop circumstances. Would love to see what they can do maxed out.

[@bryansmith5415]

Thank you for doing this. As the tire changer on two different race teams I’ve always been interested in what makes the “old school”nascar guns so fast. That being said, I’ve been using a Ridgid R86011 for the speed not necessarily for power.

[@daytonafuntim]

I love my 1/2 Ridgid. Works great for DIY needs.

[@trenthollifield6969]

This channel is becoming a go to no one vid I pass even if I don't care what he is doing or testing thank you for the amazing content

[@otm646]

You're definitely starting to be air flow limited. When I set up our industrial maintenance shop I had reels run for 3/8 and 1/2" air line. For the big guns the 1/2" air line made a tremendous difference. High flow fittings also made a small but noticable improvement.

[@gordowg1wg145]

Back in the day, I 'ported' my air die grinders and it made a noticeable difference to them, too. I expect pretty much any air operated tool would benefit.

[@JRUTHLESS_GARAGE_AND_CUSTOM]

shortly after the pit gun was released I bought 2 one I kept stock the other i had molded by a guy in Tennessee. it was definitely faster and had alot more power. lasted about 8 yrs of hard use b4 it wasn't worth using anymore. the stock one I still have as a backup and is just as good as it was when I got maybe a little down on power but not enough to really matter.

[@marksolheim9690]

I would love to see more of the old timers’ info on hopping up air impacts.

[@TorqueTestChannel]

I would end up at the bottom of the Potomac with cement shoes

[@nobodynoone2500]

There used to be a culture of modifying anything mechanical. I recall a guy talking about "2-stroke porting" on his.

[@davidb6576]

@@TorqueTestChannel That's a bad thing? I hear the Potomac is lovely this time of year!

[@frizzlefry1921]

@@TorqueTestChannel Fish food eh?

[@seldoon_nemar]

@@TorqueTestChannel I bet it would get a lot more people interested in rebuilding an old gun instead of buying a new one?

[@MrMartinSchou]

It would be fairly cool to see the performance of an actual pit gun with the 250 PSI behind it.

[@TorqueTestChannel]

They didn't allow them out into the public, then when their contract was over they took them all back.

[@jacobyoung4657]

@@TorqueTestChannel come on your a smart man you can definitely get ahold of one!

[@grahamdeere9475]

@@TorqueTestChannel We'll just hope someone out there can get you guys a real gun with the supporting air behind it. A real Paoli or IR hooked up would be interesting to see.

[@TorqueTestChannel]

@@grahamdeere9475 We're in talks with a race team

[@huckbeduck]

Just hook it up to a gas bottle such as CO2/argon from a mig welder, see what 2000 psi can accomplish

[@ToolShow]

Fantastic video! Learned a ton! If you guys need to practice on a car, let me know and I'll drive by for 1.82 seconds. :)

[@bigblocklawyer]

Ha. My dad called them "ripems." Thanks for a 5 second nostalgia trip.

[@Beee_Ceee]

I'm glad someone finally touched on the thunder gun....about 10-12 years ago at I shop I worked atworking on paving equipment a Co worker bought one and kicked the shit outta my snap on IM6100 and that led me into buying a mg725 which I think kicks ass plus now I have a supplied IR231 china made and I kinda hate it 3 air guns in total and no 1/2 cordless.

[@giant13137]

Awesome as always, I love the experimentation. You should try the secret techniques and a 7 vane rotor or your basic IR classic and see if there's a bigger difference between them. Would save alot of money vs buying a brand new gun. Curious, will TTC be testing any 3/4" air impacts? I work in a paper mill and use the larger guns often, and am very interested in their performance !

[@RANDOMNATION907]

The IR Thunder Gun is based on the IR244A, which was the heavy duty upgrade from the venerable IR231 from years ago. Just an FYI. Also the IR244A was a revised and more powerful IR212.

[@michaelovitch]

If you want rpm/ipm you need to lighten the rotor. Drilling betwen the vanes would help. Increasing exhaust size will slower exhaust air flow,and reduce pressure period duration timing, unless they are oval. You need to ovalise to not loose pressure timing. It's like a fixed ignition timing on an engine, or a two stoke / rotary engine : you are stuck with a window of efficiency if you make round exhaust ports.

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Hey yeah that makes a lot of sense. In this case we wern't after RPM, just more pressure differential for more force since there is no compression or power stroke, just the intake creating the surface area pressure. But the rotary comparison makes a lot of sense for getting rid of it

[@michaelovitch]

@@TorqueTestChannel For more force,you need to increase hammering mass,or increase impact per minutes ,so acceleration of the hammers or reduce energy loss in the tool (increase efficiency) Looser ball bearings would reduce drag, and increase efficiency. thin oil instead of grease in bearings would do the same,without seals. Reducing rotating mass except hammer mass would help too,like the rotor weight. Reducing the volume (displacement) between vanes will increase rotation speed, Using a very cold gas with a very high density can help too. Porting the exhaust duct up to the exit can help too,and not only the ports in the stator. The quick coupler on the hose itself will reduce the air volume a lot,you can use barb fittings,you can get more rotation speed back.

[@71usmc]

My thunder gun was bought in 1992 from a Mac tool truck. Never had any problem. Still running it today.

[@chrisnanny03]

Is it the one in the video aka part number: “232TGSL” cause I was looking to get one and trying to gather info about it and there isn’t much online

[@31631106]

I love your BLEVE icon for the 175 PSI run!

[@officialshadetreeamerica]

I have to say thank you for testing the thunder gun. I have one of these and it wore out after one year. I was always curious if it actually lived up to the manufacturer's hype.

[@nickdavydov9615]

Same!

[@fatchihuahuas5493]

Thank you so much for making this video! Mad respect for KZbinrs acknowledging requests ❤️

[@cheffjeff7054]

These Ingersoll Ran guns are one of the best (even the regular ones) they are my personal favorite use

[@teojonsson6414]

Could you do a video of torque sticks and compare accuracy between brand, and maybe seeing if there is a bigger differential from advertised claims in the higher rated sticks? Also maybe if there is any difference (except for speed until the required torque is applied) if you use a mid torque or a high torque gun? I read that mid-torques RPM/IPM (when set to high) makes is so the stick cant flex back so they might overtorque the bolt.

[@absolutepressur]

I'm also really interested in this

[@svn5994]

They're working on it.

[@Drundel]

Now I want to see what I can do with my old Sears gun, which I am pretty sure is a clone of the 231 line. Cool video.

[@LaswellB]

I found that going to a high flow coupler, and larger diameter hose, made a noticeable impact (see what I did there) on my IR thunder gun. I've been very happy with it's performance, and like you, I have an 80-gallon, 175psi compressor setup. I ran 1" line from the tank to the regulator, then high flow 3/4" line to the coupler, and use Milton high flow couplers. You should see what it does to my blow nozzle. lol.

[@miketavenermedia7853]

Could you guys do some ratings on some of the pneumatic impacts with different air compressors? Most of us home mechanics, don't have massive air compressors. I'd like to see the effects of an 8 gallon hot dog style compressor, versus a pancake compressor against your much bigger compressor. Because of watching this channel, I bought the Thor impact. I haven't used it yet but, it would be nice to know the specs of what I, or other like me, should be expecting. Love the channel guys!!

[@frizzlefry1921]

It would be interesting to see air gun and 8gallon or so against a similar priced batt powered unit.

[@seldoon_nemar]

Can you do a general how to video on freshening up a gun like that? Knowing how to polish out and pep up an old gun might keep some out of dumpsters just for haha's and giggles

[@1995dresser]

As a young man many years ago I remember some guys hard lining their air tools in (no quick disconnect) just right into the hose. but when you think about it the quick disconnect fitting works as an orifice restricting air flow because the hole Is only 3/16 in most cases in the fitting itself

[@MrBooth1974]

In my old shop, we used hose direct into the gun with a oiler on the other end. The oiler has a 1” Chicago air fitting on it that tied to the wall manifold. Black iron 1” plumbing was used for the air drops, back to a screw compressor.

[@senorpickle4207]

I use an old IR from the 90s, it was used in the Australian V8 Supercars and I got it as a give from one of the racers cos I’m friends with his son, anyway it kicks ass, I expect its more powerful than the regular guns cos it was actually used in the pits.

[@turby31]

Used to used Ingersoll rand guns to bolt and unbolt molds at the factory I used to work at. I loved playing with the 7 vane thunder guns. Always trying to make them faster

[@Georges3DPrinters]

Just going to say rubbing them with oil is not the same as soaked like on clutches in a transmission, needs More time, put a time-lapse on it and will see the bubbles come out. But does phenolic resin absorb much? Maybe the edges do? But I know soaking does better for clutch material

[@RC-fu6hg]

Really nice comparison. Loved how you hopped up the air gun.

[@PogLife2171]

After watching this video I went on a complete nerd search and ended up finding a used TGSL for 80 bucks on Facebook. Hooked it to our air supply to make sure it worked and good grief is it loud haha. Still super stoked I found it for the price I did.

[@Alanthe918mobilemechanic]

On the last run it sounded just like mine first time I’ve seen that impressed

[@kevinfrye1822]

Where can you find the seven vane and eight vane rotors? What additional porting would you have to do on a IR 231 and is there an advantage to doing it?

[@FangOfTruth]

More vanes means more friction and them rubbing the front of case doesn’t help. A Frankenstein of a drywall screw gun with an impact would be like the NASCAR version,sorta?Flywheel and clutch on an impact basically.

[@allawa]

Hey I suggested this long ago on your Instagram. I'm amazed you actully did it

[@RANDOMNATION907]

Two cordless brands you have not tested and I think you should are: The Skil ID573902 & IW5739-1A, and Hilti SID 8-A22 #2149908, or SID 4-A22 BULK #2141090 & SIW 6AT-A22 bulk #2112642 or SIW 22T-A BULK #2149753. Just a suggestion. Regardless, I really appreciate what you guys do. Thank you and I hope you all have a joyful holiday season.

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Working on both brands

[@youknoweverything7643]

I got 250psi nitrogen bottles in my pit cart in my racecar hauler. One for tires and the other for pit gun. Yes us oval track pro latemodel and super latemodel asphalt teams use pit crews for live under green pitstops but mostly under caution pit stops. Wide five hubs makes it 3 seconds longer then regular size hubs. My guys are all 15-18 year old highschool football players that volunteer to put for me at huge races and they are fast we got it down to 14.5 seconds on average. that's fast for a few kids doing 4 tires on wide five hubs and 10 gallons of fuel and if needed the Jackman also does rear jackbolt adjustments through the two holes on rear window to adjust cross and rear bite and add 3 seconds for a sway bar adjustment under the hood. And also NASCAR and asphalt race teams have a special socket that won't strip the lugs and goes on by it's self so you don't ever have to let off the trigger for the whole tire if you want they are flanged wide on the end. Sounds like they let off the trigger cuse the lug slows down the motor every time you hit a lug taking tires off and on

[@jamesfair9751]

Definitely need to open up the air volume with 3/8 or maybe even 1/2 hose and fittings. After so big the larger flow will decrease pressure so it’s a trial game to see where the ultimate size is. I like 3/8 id hoses and fittings.

[@TorqueTestChannel]

We use a 25ft 3/8 with hi flo fittings

[@thomasmogensen1]

Thanks for the metric 👍🏻🤘🏻 Nice tune on the airgun ✊🏻😎

[@Chippy569]

Ever since your channel started I was hoping a video like this would come. Wonder if you couldn't get ahold of some of the not-racecar-spec Paoli guns.

[@issanesheiwat1396]

I’m scared to cross thread my bolts using my impact while the people at nascar are going full beans the whole time

[@joeyg29jgjg]

My thoughts as well. I'm sure theres some trickery afoot

[@aaronbritt2025]

Race studs are rounded at the end instead of square. This greatly reduces the chance of cross threading.

[@MattB90]

@@joeyg29jgjg trickery afoot lol

[@paedahe4975]

NASCAR wheels have the nuts attached to the wheel. As soon as the wheel goes on, the lug nuts seat themselves with tight tolerances.

[@noclass2gun342]

@@paedahe4975 yup. They pre glue the lug nuts to the wheel.

[@Black_noir_mw3]

I'd prefer that you kept it's data in the chart for comparison, and talk to a shop and see what the cost of those mods would be to have done and figure it into its score, do some air impacts blow it away with similar mods? For an idea how would the Thor stack up to it in a modded competition?

[@TechGorilla1987]

I think it would be cool to have that chart you use in a clickable format that leads to your video of how you got those numbers.

[@TorqueTestChannel]

We had someone working on something similar for us, but he dropped off the map.

[@TechGorilla1987]

@@TorqueTestChannel I mentioned this because I comically found myself clicking on the tool names and pausing the video.

[@gavin5861]

OHH I DROPPED A COMMENT ASKING FOR THIS ONE A WHILE AGO! Exited to see it dinoed

[@jdisdetermined]

Thundergun! “..it’s as much a love story as anything else. Plus I hear the guy hangs dong and I’m very interested in seeing that.”

[@figbat6363]

super cool they use ir. i use one every day

[@donzmilky5961]

I would have used paper as a gasket/ shim for the end cap while using the 7 and 8 vein rotors. I bet the low end loss of torque and some speed is due to the rubbing.

[@joemad4110]

The extra 0.001 of an inch could be causing a bit of drag which will lower the max RPM of the gun. Is there a way you can machine that 0.001 inch off and then test it?

[@RiftyDrifty]

YES

[@rpavlik1]

I was going to suggest just lapping it off, it's only a thou.. Buy a cheap surface plate and tape the sandpaper to it. Be sure to mention the surface plate is a cheap low quality one so you don't get crucified by the machinist purists.

[@Anubis78250]

I imagine the part is supposed to be lapped to fit, not just thrown together out of the box. To go through the port and polish, gasket trimming etc. then leave the rotor pinched and rubbing? I dunno if it's before or after this video, but they actually have one where they have a gun that starts smoking and dropping in performance that turns out to be this exact issue.

[@rpavlik1]

@@Anubis78250 that was in the most recent video, and they refer back to this previous one 😁

[@nicke1903]

That gun will do great with the single hub lug, from 20 down to 4 lug nuts

[@chrisleggett685]

I have a 231 I bought in 1989. Never opened it up. I use it to bust 33mm semi truck lugnuts when other guns can't.

[@dannymayer3294]

I'd also like to see some of the hilti impact tools ranked on your chart list

[@jaydunbar7538]

$$$$$$$$$

[@TJonMaxx1]

I know this video is old now but seems to be the last time I can find you testing old school impacts. (not including the space age plug in unit) Aircat 1431 is what I'm curious about. looks like a hopped up version of a 231 like the thunder gun but cheaper and rated higher. Is it a contender for today? Someone send these guys one so I can see LOL. Great work by the way I really enjoy your channel!

[@AgentWest]

Haven't ported an impact gun yet, but have done so with a sander with great results. As to why, well, i worked at a body shop with limited air supply. It was so limited that when more than about three sanders were going the pressure would drop to below 40. At that point a stock IR/HF dual action sander has no power what so ever. Porting the exhaust however allowed that same sander to run to as low as 15-20 psi with enough power to be useful. And BTW, never port/drill out intake side of an air tool. As stated in the video, air would not be able to empty out fast enough and the tool will be absolutely gutless, even compared to stock.

[@liamhitchings1771]

You should look at the $20 harbor fright 1/2 air impact

[@jamescannone1425]

This gun doesn’t really work for me as a Lefty. There is a thumb grip on the left side, and it started to cut my hand open with repeated use. I bought one used off the snap-on truck, ended up with the composite PT850 from snap-on. I really like the gun, I take good care of it (apparently they’re a bit finicky), and it’s treated me very well. I still have my Milwaukee 1/2 high tq in case I feel like breaking something or rattling my teeth out and snapping my wrists!

[@cbmech2563]

I used to own a thunder gun, and they are LOUD. My nitrocat has a whole lot more power and I don't have to wear ear protection under normal use.

[@wrenchtheroo6557]

with these mods, what would the 1894 THOR run like?

[@mcspikesky]

Teasing us hard with those old timer tips

[@markiusgalfordii9248]

I know this is late but I converted one of my guns to work as my main impact gun if you don't hold on to it it will break your jaw or your wrist fingers anything that will get in the way of it. With it you can put a 2 inch drill bit on it and drill through anything you want seriously I haven't found anything to bug it down yet it snaps bolts if you over tighten it but it runs off a normal air compressor

[@genefogarty5395]

A drill bit on an impact gun? Huh? Please upload a video of this.

[@nobodynoone2500]

Thanks for doing more air tools. They still make more sense than buying a fleet of batteries and chargers.

[@jaydunbar7538]

Not really, unless it's the only thing you need and you already have a good air compressor. I run Milwaukee electric tools for everything from compact drills to my weed eaters and chainsaws. For most people the batteries and chargers will be purchased either way for other tools so the impact being electric also is inconsequential. The electric is also just a flat out winner for anything outside of the shop. I bring one with whenever we go on trips just in case I need to change a tire on anything, luckily I've never used it to change my own tire on the road but I have changed plenty of other peoples and 8 can guarantee they were glad my impact was battery powered.

[@justauser]

Depends on your needs. Air tools make zero sense for me in a world full of Milwaukee 🤷

[@MrShinta786]

So having the ability to ramp up speed before hitting the hammer helps their time to change a wheel, if I understood correctly. I know you're a torque test channel, not a speed test channel, I wonder if you can give speed a mark in the future, as it might help in real world scenarios. Having a faster gun might mean more bolts tightened in a specific time?

[@Comm0ut]

It's easy to get over 200 psi CO2 (better) or nitrogen (cylinder holds a LOT less but NASCAR doesn't care. I barely use air tools any more but if it's an impact it goes on the CO2 cylinder (with a fair length hose so the CO2 can expand). I collect CO2 cylinders for exchange since I also use them for welding. Try it! No need for a spendy powertank. Scuba tank regulators for air tools also exist.

[@MrBooth1974]

You guys ever think about testing a Rad Gun on your bench ? That’s My- “You Brought this on Yourself” Gun. I know it’s not “technically” a impact, but if your looking for torque, mine is rated for 4000lbs I believe. Have to check the label.

[@paulmendenhall5226]

Love this channel so much information

[@Alanthe918mobilemechanic]

The gun isn’t bad but it’s not made for nut busting power it strong enough but it’s made for speed if your a lube guy and have strong for arms and good dexterity you’ll love the gun

[@joehyundaitech7961]

my co-worker at my dealership has the thunder gun and man is it loud

[@MAGGOT_VOMIT]

Use a few drops of the old Prolong additive lubricant. I haven't measured any of my tools with a tach but they do sound like they zip up quicker. 😆😂🤣

[@joshuaking34]

I'm waiting for the cordless pit guns.

[@TorqueTestChannel]

They don't seem very quick

[@1k3nts09]

2:30 this was the realest joke you have ever made 😂

[@georgef1176]

I had this gun. It’s not bad it’s heavy and loud

[@Gu1tarZer0]

I wouldn't be crazy shocked if an Indy team let you bring a rig out to test their gun setup on a testing day, they're pretty gung-ho and laid back compared to F1.. though both might see it as a chance for more fan exposure, you never know! Not sure how you'd go about asking around for that though..

[@fredygump5578]

Don't forget to ask for the blowers the F1 teams use to cool the cars when they're in the garage! It'd be fun to see how many beans those have!

[@AT-tl7oe]

Good that I found this channel ahahaha Interesting stuff, subbed :)

[@aaronbritt2025]

@2:45... Did you turn the gun up to "5" before testing? Looks like it's set to "4" here. @4:36... Looks like it's still set to "4".

[@TorqueTestChannel]

It arrived on four, at 4:36 it's on 5

[@aaronbritt2025]

@@TorqueTestChannel Thanks

[@kaleb_barbour3]

Would love to see an F1 gun measured

[@MrHowieZ1973]

Mac tools used to sell this impact as the AW434

[@hksp]

10k rpm, gonna change wheel studs everytime when wheels came off

[@botsbass842]

I've killed half a dozen thunder guns in a sand mine. They seem to be good guns.

[@dawn9340]

Didn’t know TTC was working for Astro Tools. When did that happen?

[@gmills5763]

I drop everything when one of these vids drop. Moar rippems!!! 😃😃😃

[@yasso4024]

Very interesting Video. Maybe you could also try the Dino Paoli Hurricane Classic Handle

[@vivos71]

Speaking of pit guns I’d love to see some Paoli guns on the channel. Red Devil specifically

[@avnut5517]

Stopped what I was doing to watch this.

[@bradjohnson9671]

As come comments below mentioned, it would be nice to know what fittings you are using and also the air hose diameter. Neat testing though.

[@TorqueTestChannel]

All of our air guns use the same per ep1. Milton v type high flow and the hose size recommended by the brand which is 3/8" here. Always 25ft

[@bradjohnson9671]

@@TorqueTestChannel Thanks, you probably have it listed somewhere but I'm a bit new to the channel. Good info, I've switched most of my fittings to V type. I especially like the quick couple without having to pull back the "ring".

[@KrKrypton]

I bought the titanium version years ago when I first started working, it's tired as hell, barely any torque. Maybe I can revive it with these new parts.

[@isaactrockman4417]

You should try one inch drive railway impact guns

[@fredlowe6260]

You should see if high-flow fittings, like milton's purple V-style or flexzilla's make any difference. Seems like it would be a cheaper upgrade than buying a whole new gun

[@zackhaas3267]

That's what they use....

[@bigj231]

@@zackhaas3267 the red interchange is the industrial fitting, not the high-flow V-style fitting. If you're really trying to increase flow, you use an open quick connect and a ball valve instead of these self-closing quick connects. For even more flow, just hook the hose straight into the gun.

[@jlsgarage872]

I'd love to see yall Dyno the Milwaukee surge hydraulic impact drivers to compare vs the standard ones (I don't think you've done this before)

[@TorqueTestChannel]

We tried to: kzbin.info/www/bejne/foWqo4yhe5ientk

[@jlsgarage872]

@@TorqueTestChannel oh cool thanks