Portland secures Zidell Yards for future MLB stadium

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Brodie Brazil

Brodie Brazil

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@brodiebrazil
@brodiebrazil 6 күн бұрын
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@martinarden9705
@martinarden9705 6 күн бұрын
If Portland ever gets a baseball team, Kurt Russell needs to run it. Those of you who have ever seen his baseball documentary will know why.
@christopherkelly9747
@christopherkelly9747 6 күн бұрын
Good call!!!
@carterbentley9030
@carterbentley9030 6 күн бұрын
Absolutely!
@ecashman
@ecashman 6 күн бұрын
totally agree, "The Battered Bastards of Baseball" is an excellent documentary and a wonderful story. But just a small correction, it was owned by Kurt's father, Bing Russell. Maybe Kurt could step in and run the show in this hypothetical future, lol.
@Kirkshelton
@Kirkshelton 6 күн бұрын
and the team should be the Portland Bastards
@martinarden9705
@martinarden9705 6 күн бұрын
@@ecashman : good point. but since Bing is unfortunately no longer with us, I suggested Kurt. I probably should have clarified that.
@therealdjpuma
@therealdjpuma 6 күн бұрын
As far as transit, you have the Portland Max Orange line and multiple Portland Streetcar lines, all converging in the vicinity and connecting vast parts of the city and the South Waterfront Tram terminal transiting from Marquam Hill. People could park across the river or near any significant transit center, ride the train, and alleviate traffic congestion.
@Ironcabbit
@Ironcabbit 5 күн бұрын
Heck, they could build a parking garage on the other side of the river and utilize Tillikum Crossing as a pedestrian footpath to the stadium.
@basiluzzo
@basiluzzo 4 күн бұрын
@@Ironcabbit Great point. The city is trying to find ways to develop that OMSI area on the other side of the bridge. Running a shuttle from there to Zidell Yards would be great for new venues on the east side of the river.
@deanfirnatine7814
@deanfirnatine7814 6 күн бұрын
Ross Island bridge is elevated, you can walk right under so park on one side and entertainment district on the other side is no problem, in fact the bridge has to be replaced anyway due to quake concerns. FYI it is pronounced "Will lamb it", Willamette.
@basiluzzo
@basiluzzo 4 күн бұрын
He tried ... he only got the A sound wrong. Better than "will-a-METTE".
@pauldavis1943
@pauldavis1943 5 күн бұрын
Let's go PDX! Mariners are killing me. I live in Olympia and could shift my attention southward ;-)
@sydviv126
@sydviv126 6 күн бұрын
The backdrop would be picturesque.
@TR-zx1lc
@TR-zx1lc 6 күн бұрын
One thing to consider is that the Ross Island Bridge is super old and due for replacement due to seismic concerns. Additionally, the other bridge in the picture, Tilikum Crossing, is a mass-transit and pedestrian/cyclist bridge only, so the stadium would quite literally have an integrated transit center built-in, with no modifications.
@JosePlata
@JosePlata 6 күн бұрын
Thats the first thing I noticed that cooridor is already a cluster fugg I cant imagine how bad it would be on game day.
@robserrano8971
@robserrano8971 6 күн бұрын
Riverfront for MLB and Red Tail GC for NFL.
@edmolash3401
@edmolash3401 5 күн бұрын
One advantage of having the bridge there is that the geotechnical conditions at the site are well known. It’s earthquake country.
@jirikurto3859
@jirikurto3859 4 күн бұрын
@@JosePlata Jose, please don't say fugg. It is super offensive. If you change the u to a, the g to r, and the other g to t, then you have the word fart which is so totally profane.
@DevonSherwood
@DevonSherwood 4 күн бұрын
@@JosePlataany stadium is going to be chaos on game day but having it near a major interstate and multiple bridges could be helpful. Especially being next to the tillikum crossing which like someone said, is a public transit and pedestrian only bridge. There is a lot more room for parking on the east side of the river so it would make that side of things way easier. Also having it near downtown and public transit in general should spread out some of the congestion when compared to putting it way out in the suburbs. Could even do a boat park and ride in theory!
@robertslyejr1823
@robertslyejr1823 5 күн бұрын
Brodie, in the video, you keep saying Lloyd Center is downtown. It's really not. It's actually about a mile east of the river opposite of downtown. The Lloyd Center spot was more spacious than you indicated, especially when you factor in park space nearby. That would have been a great spot for an sports entertainment district, given It's proximity to Moda Center. That being said, I love the riverfront spot even more! Its proximity to Portland's newest Public transportation bridge The Tilikum is amazing. I pass this lot over the bridge every day on the way to work. As a displaced A's fan living in Portland, I'd be foaming at the mouth to work for a Portland baseball team!
@BrianFuller_0
@BrianFuller_0 4 күн бұрын
Portlanders do love to vote for more taxes, but I don't know if they'll go for, "Yes, Mr. Billionaire, we'll help you out with construction for your private business."
@deanfirnatine7814
@deanfirnatine7814 6 күн бұрын
Its a excellent site albeit a bit of a squeeze for the stadium part unless they remove the Ross Island Bridge that has to be replaced anyway. Good room South of the bridge for other stuff associated with park. This group has tons of money and the state approved partial financing based on tax revenue many years ago. Portland is either number one or two as far as TV market for cities in the country with only one of the big four sports teams, Portland's market size is bigger than Salt Lake City #22 vs #27 I believe and SLC now has two major sports franchises NBA and NHL vs Portland's one NBA and Portland is larger, that seems a win for Portland.
@basiluzzo
@basiluzzo 4 күн бұрын
The Oregonian (local newspaper) ran an excellent infographic with 11 major ballparks superimposed on the half of the site north of the Ross Island Bridge - all fit nicely. The Petco Park footprint was almost exactly the same. As I said in a different comment, with the Interstate Bridge and the Burnside Bridge both nearing replacement, it'll be years before the Ross Island gets its turn, and you can only close 1 bridge across the Willamette at a time. Also 3 other Willamette Bridges are older than the Ross Island, and loss of the Steel Bridge would be more catastrophic than losing the Ross Island. The Steel Bridge should be next.
@HKim0072
@HKim0072 6 күн бұрын
Utah and Portland both support the NBA teams well. Giving another team to Florida just seems weird since the other teams don't draw.
@pipingpepsi6665
@pipingpepsi6665 6 күн бұрын
If I could change anything in the MLB, I’d probably undo the 93 and 98 expansions… I don’t know why MLB expanded into the states where Spring Training is held
@geth7112
@geth7112 6 күн бұрын
Yeah, if Orlando waits long enough, I'm sure the Devil Rays or the Marlins could move there
@okolo22000
@okolo22000 6 күн бұрын
⁠​⁠@@geth7112 Exactly! That’s the ONLY way the MLB would move a team to Orlando.
@agayactornamedmichaeldougl6289
@agayactornamedmichaeldougl6289 6 күн бұрын
Charlotte needs a team wayyyy before Portland does.
@deanfirnatine7814
@deanfirnatine7814 6 күн бұрын
Oregon and SW Washington are so starved for anything major other than the poor Blazers, fans would be hanging from the rafters. This seems the most access friendly site in downtown ever discussed. I just moved down to South of Eugene and I will buy some kind of weekend game package in a heartbeat. If they got a relocated team they could still use "civic stadium" as a temp home, I have talked to one of the architects who drew up the plans for it as a temp home years ago and its not a super expensive monumental deal to set that up as a 2-3 year temp home. If soccer people complain they can sit and spin on a Louisville Slugger, I am still bitter at those jerks pushing the Beavers out.
@mattsampson2543
@mattsampson2543 6 күн бұрын
A's fan living in Portland. Brodie, when you say the unwritten expectation is for public financing, how much of that do you think is earmarked for infrastructure improvements? The bridge right behind Ross Island is the Tilikum crossing bridge. This bridge does not carry private cars, it is 100% dedicated to public transit. Both the Max (light rail line) and Tri Met bus service carry passengers across the bridge. There are also bike and pedestrian lanes in both directions. I could see this serving as a huge source of getting people to the ballpark. Portland does not prioritize parking structures, and I don't see one getting built. I don't see voters ponying up public funds for a ballpark. As far as I can tell, the Diamond Project appears able to privately finance the construction of the ballpark. Maybe Portland doesn't need public financing given that we have already made the necessary infrastructure investments around Zidell?
@chase8871
@chase8871 5 күн бұрын
$300M from the state, the rest can be funded privately.
@marklentz1095
@marklentz1095 4 күн бұрын
PDP, has virtually zero dollars to finance acquisition of a team- let alone build a stadium. Go to their website - just four people officially involved: hucksters Cheek and Barrett and Russ and Ciara at like five mil. There's ZERO suggestion from any reporting source that PDP has a sugar daddy (mommy?) lined up. Not even lead local cheerleader Canzano has been able to dredge up a name. It's all smoke and mirrors, as it has been from Day One.
@casianvasile2241
@casianvasile2241 6 күн бұрын
As a local Portlander I’m excited but keeping my expectations tempered. The site is very good bc it falls in line with our public transit line (MAX) as well as being right next to i-5 so getting there will be easy. The problem with PDP is they are very secretive so no one knows where funding is coming from (outside of Russell Wilson appearing at a few events) and they’ve teased so many sites in the past. I can tell you that baseball will do very well in this city! The Trail Blazers and Timbers are some of the best supported teams in their leagues. Our High-A baseball team, Hillsboro Hops, just broke ground on a new stadium in hopes of gaining Double A status. Our summer wooden bat team, Portland Pickles, consistently sell out games and have a huge social media presence. Finally, the city threw a parade when we were awarded a WNBA team just earlier this month. This city is starved for sports and we’re sick of Seattle being the only representative for the Pacific NW. I’m keeping my fingers crossed that this actually happens 🤞🏼
@PCSPounder
@PCSPounder 6 күн бұрын
The Hillsboro Hops in the Texas League? Um, think about that one. Could be a merge of Northwest and California Leagues. Or could be AAA.
@subgum3403
@subgum3403 6 күн бұрын
Craig Cheek is the founder and main front man. A big money silcone valley whale was mentioned being behind the PDP maybe....its the owners of the thorns/wnba teams. The Allens dont rule over PDX anymore like they did for decades.
@casianvasile2241
@casianvasile2241 5 күн бұрын
@@PCSPounder Good point. Looked into it and the new stadium is meant to meet the new requirements for High-A.
@seymoursmix4810
@seymoursmix4810 6 күн бұрын
sited on the river with nearby bridges gives a pittsburghesque look to it.
@souslicer
@souslicer 6 күн бұрын
The main investors is a Steelers player
@larryjex6485
@larryjex6485 6 күн бұрын
It's been said that Portland is Pittsburgh and Seattle's love child.
@robserrano8971
@robserrano8971 6 күн бұрын
​@@larryjex6485LMFAO
@basiluzzo
@basiluzzo 4 күн бұрын
Brodie to echo the other commenters, the Ross Island bridge is HIGH over the site, not much of an impediment to movement between the 2 halves. Tillikum Crossing (the bridge on the northern edge of the site) has stations for the extensive light rail system, the streetcar that serves the central city, and the bus rapid transit line the serves the souther part of the other side of the river. Road access and parking are already concerns and would have to be addressed. And to address your speculation, the park would undoubtedly face east, with spectacular views of Mt Hood (google it) from the upper decks. Instantly one of the most iconic views in all of baseball.
@jasonhowell7763
@jasonhowell7763 5 күн бұрын
That location would have some of the best transit connections for any stadium in the MLB, up there with Wrigley and Yankee Stadium. 3 streetcar lines (2 are part of the loop) and one light rail. Would be super fun to ride the amtrak cascades down for Mariners games
@krissolson7043
@krissolson7043 6 күн бұрын
Will-am-it 💯
@chrissimmons9743
@chrissimmons9743 5 күн бұрын
Lemme guess, someone dared speak of the made up "Will-a-met-ee" river?
@chase8871
@chase8871 5 күн бұрын
I pronounce it will-LAMB-it
@Ironcabbit
@Ironcabbit 5 күн бұрын
The vowel mispronounciation is forgivable; he got the consonants right!
@zardonicz
@zardonicz 4 күн бұрын
Rhymes with “dammit”
@neilpdx78
@neilpdx78 5 күн бұрын
Pronunciation of "Willamette" no good.
@davidwesley2525
@davidwesley2525 4 күн бұрын
Out of Towners Alway Mispronounce Willamette. 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
@Dan-or8qo
@Dan-or8qo 6 күн бұрын
the bridge just to the north of the site, is a transit bridge. Trains, Buses, Walking, Biking.
@Airweldon
@Airweldon 6 күн бұрын
Portland-area based A's fan here, after this season, if this comes to fruition, I am all in.
@MarkusAlkemus
@MarkusAlkemus 6 күн бұрын
There are dozens of us! Dozens!
@lewatoaofair2522
@lewatoaofair2522 6 күн бұрын
Portland may be a better home than Vegas.
@deanfirnatine7814
@deanfirnatine7814 6 күн бұрын
@@lewatoaofair2522 100%, no one ventures outside their homes in Vegas in the Summer
@alexandercronk5694
@alexandercronk5694 5 күн бұрын
​@@deanfirnatine7814That's fake news. We're outside all year. Can't wait for the A's to come home to Nevada.
@christopherking9338
@christopherking9338 2 күн бұрын
​@@alexandercronk5694"There's no such thing as bad weather...... Only Bad Clothing!!" Ma Gert Boyle of Columbia Sportswear 😊😊
@TheCriminalViolin
@TheCriminalViolin 2 күн бұрын
Okay, so given the Diamond project announcing that the stadium is going onto the larger segment of land (18 versus 15), that says it'll be put on the south side of the bridge. I personally dislike that, as I believe it should be the north side for the most direct access to transit, pedestrian and bicyclist infrastructure, which then would also minimize the amount of parking required to attend games or other events hosted at the stadium, like concerts. Tilikum Crossing the the white cable-stay bridge on the north side of the property, which is exclusively a transit, pedestrian and bicyclist bridge. If they're smart, they then could easily implement a beautiful broad walking path south to then access the developments they want to put in on that 18 acres. I assume home plate will end up facing west-southwest, southwest or west, as I believe it's a given they'll prioritize the view east toward Mt. Hood. Though to maximize the views, the southwest facing option would allow the grandstands to get views of Hood, Adams, Helens and even Rainier on clear atmospheric days, as well as flights going in and out of PDX. I do personally strongly prefer getting a NHL team over a MLB team, even a NFL team over a MLB though, for a number of reasons, one being I guarantee people here would support the other two far more than they will a baseball team. Sure, we have history with baseball teams, but honestly? It didn't make any noticeable impact on us or our history. In fact, people's love for the other two stand out more than baseball by a long shot. Ultimately, I'm just glad it won't be the Red Tail Golf Course. Willamette is said "Will-am-it". And we're fairly lazy speakers, so if you slur them together, you should nail it.
@robbyg8104
@robbyg8104 6 күн бұрын
I like the thought naming the Portland ballpark something similar to Orioles Ballpark at Camden Yards.. You know, (Team Name) Ballpark at Zidell Yards!
@ronclark9724
@ronclark9724 6 күн бұрын
I suspect a stadium naming rights deal...
@TravisMSimpson
@TravisMSimpson 6 күн бұрын
@@ronclark9724 (Corporate name) Ballpark at Zidell Yards
@robserrano8971
@robserrano8971 6 күн бұрын
PORTLAND LUMBERJAX OR PINES.
@lewatoaofair2522
@lewatoaofair2522 6 күн бұрын
Beavers. Dust off that old nickname.
@TravisMSimpson
@TravisMSimpson 6 күн бұрын
@@lewatoaofair2522 I second that motion
@DB-gr7ch
@DB-gr7ch 2 күн бұрын
Brodie Brazil, super realtor. It's a goddamn bridge, dude!
@basiluzzo
@basiluzzo 4 күн бұрын
Although it's in Beaverton, Redtail Golf Course is owned by the City of Portland. So PDP may be sucking up to Portland by being willing to take that property off their hands.
@noaho8457
@noaho8457 6 күн бұрын
It’s good to see the PDP finally doing something. Everyone can agree that the golf course spot was a stupid idea and it’s a better to have the stadium right next to downtown Portland. With easy access to the max train as well it will definitely help elevate traffic downtown. Portland needs people to come back downtown and the proposal is a no brainer. Portlands population has been declining but the city is finally starting to rebound after awhile. As well as the area population is growing rapidly. I hope it happens
@basiluzzo
@basiluzzo 4 күн бұрын
As other commenters have said, Portland population decline has leveled off and metro area never declined, continues to grow. I agree that the golf course idea was terrible, I think they were hedging their bets and showing the Zidell family they were serious.
@andred3299
@andred3299 5 күн бұрын
How cool would it be if Portland got its collective shit together before even thinking about this; Brodie is out of touch with reality.
@oopsmybad8047
@oopsmybad8047 5 күн бұрын
Not gonna happen.😂
@gabetalks9275
@gabetalks9275 6 күн бұрын
I'm expecting this to give Portland's NHL expansion campaign a boost. Bettman has met with the representatives of Portland and I find it hard it to believe that they're gonna let the MLB steal the spotlight away from hockey there. The sport that wins the race to join the Trailblazers as Oregon's 3rd team will have the best shot at growing a long-term fanbase.
@PCSPounder
@PCSPounder 6 күн бұрын
If only. Major problem: while the Blazers made a deal for the city to take over Moda Center, the Blazers most certainly have management rights. Paul Allen, kind of like Tilman Fertitta in Houston, gave lip service to NHL while wanting a discount on a franchise back when the arena was new, and the NHL is not in that business. I expect the NBA to help broker the “auction” the Allen estate requests and to basically maintain the status quo at Moda Center.
@TheCriminalViolin
@TheCriminalViolin 2 күн бұрын
Second team? You mean third team. The Timbers have been here for a decade + now, and is passionately supported here. The MLS is absolutely one of the big dogs with NBA, NHL, NFL & MLB.
@Dan-or8qo
@Dan-or8qo 6 күн бұрын
Can we name the team the Portland Wet Sox?
@subgum3403
@subgum3403 6 күн бұрын
Green Sox but i love the history of the Mavericks
@christopherking9338
@christopherking9338 2 күн бұрын
Boston has the Red Sox, Chicago has The White Sox and Portland will have The Blue Sox!! ☺️💙😎💙☺️
@tahuyachris
@tahuyachris 6 күн бұрын
I've lived in Orrgon for 23 years. But, I grew up in Washington state. I am loyal to all the Washington teams. I hope the Mariners get a closer opponent! Go PDX Diamond Project!!!
@chrissimmons9743
@chrissimmons9743 5 күн бұрын
Honestly, this is why even those of Oregon sports fans who are fans of Seattle and don't intend to switch if/when Portland (or Oregon in general) get teams, should still root for Portland to get said teams. As someone who roots for both the Kings and Cardinals, this was something i hated about the Coyotes moving to Utah, because now LA is the only place i can possibly go to see both teams play (when the Cardinals play at SoFi against either the Misplaced Rams or Chargers while the Kings have either a home stand, or it's the Ducks who they're playing on the road), whereas before there was also the chance the Coyotes would host the Kings in Tempe while the Cardinals would play a home game out in Glendale within a couple days or so.
@brendanardenburke1960
@brendanardenburke1960 5 күн бұрын
I walk by 🎉this site all the time and have thought for years this would be the best site in town for a ballpark. The park would be north of the Ross Island Bridge. Super exciting!🤞🤞🤞
@TheRealMikeySullivan
@TheRealMikeySullivan 2 күн бұрын
This is the best idea for an MLB park location in Portland so far. Would definitely reinforce the south waterfront in a big way. I would love to see this happen.
@SerenityNow9015
@SerenityNow9015 6 күн бұрын
6:54 I’m not sure what the parking situation will look like. But the cool thing is that the MAXrail blue, red, orange and green lines all run adjacent to the site and there’s a couple already existing stops in that area since it’s near the OHSU campus (Oregon Health & Sciences University, our main state hospital complex, who has their own publicly used gondola). So I really love it from that perspective. Also, you were so close on your first attempt at pronouncing Willamette 😂. It’s WILL-AM-IT. Anyway, great vid as always and appreciate you bringing this project to light nationally. Who knows what will happen going forward or if it will be a relocated team that ends up here 👀
@meladdin
@meladdin 6 күн бұрын
As a Portland resident, I am impressed by your level of detail and accuracy. You said Willamette correct the first time.
@kami_in_the_skye
@kami_in_the_skye 5 күн бұрын
I can already visualize this place way better than the spot the White Sox money laundering scheme wants to move to, even without a lame, sleazy Reinsdork publicity stunt. A bridge overlooking one side of the outfield and the possibility for splashdowns on the other is such a fantastic backdrop for a ballpark.
@pdxholmes
@pdxholmes 4 күн бұрын
As someone who lives near and takes the Ross Island regularly...I look forward to them developing the area, I don't look forward to the construction. Portland's traffic patterns are garbage and the Ross Island is the primary way for those of us in the SE sector of the city to get over the river and to the west.
@mikevchu
@mikevchu 4 күн бұрын
A’s should have moved to Portland instead of Vegas
@flapjacktexas1774
@flapjacktexas1774 2 күн бұрын
The Lloyd Center is East of downtown on the other side of the river.😊
@rontalbot4966
@rontalbot4966 3 күн бұрын
Close, Will-am (think amber or Amtrak am)-ett .
@Eric-nj5ir
@Eric-nj5ir 3 күн бұрын
Mariners have indicated they'll try to sink this a few times the past decade - not sure how much that will matter
@freedomtrucker2332
@freedomtrucker2332 3 күн бұрын
The Athletics are perfect for Portland
@captainslow9977
@captainslow9977 5 күн бұрын
Lloyd center is nowhere near downtown. It’s on the east side
@WASF2024
@WASF2024 Күн бұрын
It is walkable and bikeable from downtown but it certainly isn't near downtown.
@bleizkimbrough4180
@bleizkimbrough4180 3 күн бұрын
The mt hood view if possible would be a cherry on top
@LisaH2472
@LisaH2472 5 күн бұрын
Also, Lloyd Center is not downtown. Sloppy research.
@MichaelRegan
@MichaelRegan 5 күн бұрын
Seriously, stop it. You are right, but no one outside of Portlandia would look at any map of the city and only call one side of the river downtown. Brodie is doing a great job on this story - show him some love, not disrespect!
@LisaH2472
@LisaH2472 5 күн бұрын
Not true, but whatever.
@basiluzzo
@basiluzzo 4 күн бұрын
@@MichaelRegan I have to admit I enjoyed the video but if he'd done about 15 minutes more research he could have avoided several mistakes that made him sound misinformed. No one looks at a map and concludes with no context what is or isnt' downtown. It's not a big deal but Lloyd Center would not be a downtown ballpark. It would be in inner northeast, and probably good for that part of town - but it wouldn't be downtown and wouldn't have an impact on downtown. On the other hand ... Zidell Yards isn't downtown either! Lloyd Center and Zidell are both inner urban but not downtown - like in many cities.
@WASF2024
@WASF2024 Күн бұрын
@@basiluzzo "OSHU Adjacent."
@maxpowr90
@maxpowr90 6 күн бұрын
I dunno if Brodie dug down deep into sports geography, but it ironically has a West Coast bias. Only the NHL has an East Coast bias; with all its 16 Eastern Conference teams in the EST. The NBA includes Chicago in the "East".
@ryanlewiz
@ryanlewiz 2 күн бұрын
Got it WRONG friend. Will Clark. Say I NY ‘Met’ him. Will a Met. Less Will Ahh Met. More what sound does A make. Will I Am sucks; but he may be useful. Will (I) Am Ette Having moved to Portland from a lifetime in Santa Cruz to Berkeley/Oakland. The public transit within the city and many equivalents to my childhood A’s experience exist (SC drive to Fremont BART) are both surprisingly ideal. I did invest nearly a decade earning an MA in Sociology and Demographics at Cal. There has been a lot of free time for curiosity, travel and applying my sociological imagination. I have been here seven years and know my Mormon metropolis well. Both cities love their NW SE NE but SLC hates words too. It’s a math compass of bland efficiency if you understand it. SLC is a FAR more desirable market for an MLB franchise. Suburbia galore! Sobriety galore! Wanna go out hun? Well I guess that’ll be nine tickets as opposed to the 2.5 in Portland. It would be nice to have a presence on the map between Seattle and SF. SLC has continued its socioeconomic growth at a ready rate; Portland has seen decline in recent years. I am confident the median household income is higher/cost of living lower in SLC as well. Do not let the population fool you. While the Portland ‘metro’ sits at 2.5 million to 1.4 in SLC. The SLC area actual has a CSA (combined statistical area) ranking of 2.8 million. If you throw a mountain or ski resort or the largest endorheic lake in the Western Hemisphere. The census folks can lead one to underestimate just how many folks are within a 45min drive to a game. Did not mean to go off to that extent. Hopefully the algorithm respects word count regardless of quality.
@bryan_turner
@bryan_turner 5 күн бұрын
This is definitely PDP's best site yet.
@greglarson6293
@greglarson6293 Күн бұрын
Red Tail would have been insane. 217 is a nightmare as it is. Putting a stadium there would have been catastrophic for traffic in that area. And who would have travelled regularly from the East Side or Vancouver to that site? I’m glad that idea is dead.
@Chris-em4fl
@Chris-em4fl 6 күн бұрын
Portland and Utah sound better than Vegas
@nicholasciviero7289
@nicholasciviero7289 6 күн бұрын
I'm still not sold on Tampa's new stadium. They'll always be on relocation watch until the excavator starts digging.
@bronsonbamnallen1633
@bronsonbamnallen1633 5 күн бұрын
Putting a baseball park there would be awesome. Would be very reminiscent of Pittsburghs setup. Also, the MAX runs right across the Tilikum bridge. Goes north and south from there. I think Portland would be a great baseball town. The AL West needs another team.
@christopherking9338
@christopherking9338 2 күн бұрын
Also, The M's need an I-5 rival to match the upcoming Sonics/Trail Blazers rivalry reunion 😎😎
@geoffreylee5199
@geoffreylee5199 4 күн бұрын
The US cities who want professional baseball are cities of about one million people plus. Are the surrounding area’s population large enough? Will the cities fall for the Build Me A Stadium schtick?
@robertslyejr.2605
@robertslyejr.2605 2 күн бұрын
You really need to look at the metro populations. Many people probably don't realize that Pittsburgh has only 302,898. It's metro population is 2,457,000. Portland on the other hand has a population of 635,067 (more than twice the size!) and a metro population of 2,513,000. In fact the US only has 9 cities larger than one million
@matthewspringer3984
@matthewspringer3984 4 күн бұрын
The Ross Island Bridge needs to be replaced. This is a great opportunity to explore it. The bridge is just too small for the volume of traffic it carries daily. This could really help with traffic flow... And also allow them to build a really great waterfront ballpark.
@WASF2024
@WASF2024 Күн бұрын
Plus the bridge entry points from I-5 coming north, SW and downtown are cray-cray.
@carlj12
@carlj12 6 күн бұрын
I like the site and Portland feels like a fun baseball place. I know it’s long shot, but do you think MLB could go with 4 teams like in the old expansion days?
@noaho8457
@noaho8457 5 күн бұрын
My biggest hope
@Chris-em4fl
@Chris-em4fl 6 күн бұрын
Team Portland
@rapalbumdepot7648
@rapalbumdepot7648 6 күн бұрын
It would be downright foolish for MLB inc. to leave all of northern california to the giants- and this is coming from someone who is a lifelong giants fan. This is a region that is crazy for baseball and is also one of the worlds wealthiest metro regions and we have millions of cable TV subscribers and great weather and world renowned culture and a rich baseball history. Almost every day I go to Giants comments section and it is filled with Dodgers and Padres fans who wish they had it this good. Chill.
@MichaelRegan
@MichaelRegan 5 күн бұрын
I’m predicting the Angels end up in SacTown, bringing balance back to the north
@billl1127
@billl1127 5 күн бұрын
Fentanyl Park
@oopsmybad8047
@oopsmybad8047 5 күн бұрын
Antifa Park at the waterfront.
@basiluzzo
@basiluzzo 4 күн бұрын
Stop it, you're killing me! Hilarious!
@schmoab
@schmoab 5 күн бұрын
Utah/ Portland: please take the A’s. Vegas wants nothing to do with them.
@MichaelRegan
@MichaelRegan 5 күн бұрын
I’d love to see the As in Portlandia. The colors would be embraced as is!
@johnny-crawford
@johnny-crawford 6 күн бұрын
I see Nashville in the NL East. Utah in the AL West. Maybe...
@Ironcabbit
@Ironcabbit 5 күн бұрын
Naah. San Antonio or Austin, so that California and Texas each have three teams. And move the low-attendance Angels to Salt Lake City.
@TimandSarah
@TimandSarah 4 күн бұрын
"Willamette" "Dammit"
@markeschen
@markeschen 6 күн бұрын
Portland also needs to worry about a potential third team in Texas.
@giomole
@giomole 6 күн бұрын
Speaking of Orlando, IMO if the Rays can't move into Tampa proper then they should be the ones going to Orlando. St. Pete is a really inconvenient location to get in and out of.
@ki2726
@ki2726 6 күн бұрын
@@giomole Florida should not have a third MLB team. That would be a horrible decision. The Rays and Marlins are already in the bottom-3 of attendance every year.
@HighpointerGeocacher
@HighpointerGeocacher 4 күн бұрын
In my opinion, it would be better for major league baseball to add two teams in the Carolinas (over 16 million people in NC and SC, so Charlotte and Raleigh can each have a team) and a team in Nashville (over 7 million people in Tennessee). The population of Oregon is less than 4½ million. It would be absurd to put a second team in the Pacific Northwest while the far-more populous South (not counting Florida and Texas) has only one team. Also, population of Oregon is decreasing while the population of NC, SC, and TN are growing at among the fastest rates in the USA.
@basiluzzo
@basiluzzo 4 күн бұрын
What do you base that statistic on? Per US census, Oregon in 2000: 3.4 million. 2010: 3.8 million. 2020: 4.2 million. Estimated to be the same in 2023, now apparently growing again after the covid lull.
@HighpointerGeocacher
@HighpointerGeocacher 4 күн бұрын
@@basiluzzo2020 population: 4,237,256 2023 population (estimated): 4,233,358 That is actually small decline in population from 2020 until 2023. Population of other states in consideration for MLB teams (2023 estimates): North Carolina: 10,835,491 South Carolina: 5,373,555 (combined population of NC and SC is over 16.2 million) Tennessee: 7,126,489 Those are population figures far exceeding Oregon and all three of those states are growing at among the fastest rates in the USA.
@jasonbaker6842
@jasonbaker6842 Сағат бұрын
PDP should acquire the A’s. Green and Gold are the colors of Portland’s teams, it would keep them on the West Coast, and is much closer to getting them a ballpark than Vegas.
@Phatooine
@Phatooine 6 күн бұрын
It's pronounced: "will"..."am"...ette".
@brodiebrazil
@brodiebrazil 6 күн бұрын
i knew i'd mess it up!!! thank you
@mattsampson2543
@mattsampson2543 6 күн бұрын
@@brodiebrazil You were damn close, Brodie! Give yourself a pat on the back. I've heard MUCH worse
@basiluzzo
@basiluzzo 4 күн бұрын
You got the syllable stress right, that's what we really care about. Willa-METTE makes me want to scream. At least no one says Ore-gone anymore.
@budgethomegymtraining5526
@budgethomegymtraining5526 6 күн бұрын
wil-LAMB-it
@contentioushackery
@contentioushackery 4 күн бұрын
Are you sure it isn't willy-ah-metty? jk
@BrandanTheBroker
@BrandanTheBroker 5 күн бұрын
This would be pretty cool
@WASF2024
@WASF2024 Күн бұрын
Lloyd Center is NOT downtown. It's across the river from downtown in "NorthEast." Saying Lloyd Center is in downtown Portland is like saying Oakland Colesium is in downtown Oakland. It's not.
@christopherking9338
@christopherking9338 2 күн бұрын
Boston has The Red Sox, Chicago has The White Sox and Portland will have The Blue Sox!!! 💙😎😎💙
@timc7037
@timc7037 6 күн бұрын
Can we have a Lumberjack version of Rusty? Keep Portland Weird
@subgum3403
@subgum3403 6 күн бұрын
Logger
@basiluzzo
@basiluzzo 4 күн бұрын
Sorry, The Timbers already have Timber Joey ... an actual lumberjack. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqDCaqqJbquAnsU
@WASF2024
@WASF2024 Күн бұрын
All y'all commenting about traffic nightmare for Zidell, yeh, yeh, whatever. Look at Oracle Park in San Francisco. Pretty much same set up. Near downtown traffic but also super accessible by public transit including Caltrain, light rail and buses, close to 101 and Bay Bridge, on the water. Other than RIB needing quake retrofit, same same traffic hassle.
@robbailey995
@robbailey995 4 күн бұрын
Willamette's A sounds like Dam. Appreciate the effort though!
@Timmycoo
@Timmycoo 6 күн бұрын
As someone from the Bay Area and moved to Portland, this is great news for me, optimistic thinking lol. I have to drive to Seattle to watch hockey (which isn't bad but still) only having an NBA team kinda makes me sad lol.
@splashnskillz37
@splashnskillz37 6 күн бұрын
And MLS
@lewatoaofair2522
@lewatoaofair2522 6 күн бұрын
You also got the Timbers, though.
@Timmycoo
@Timmycoo 6 күн бұрын
@@lewatoaofair2522 Yeah Splash said that already. Not a huge MLS fan but it's something.
@christopherking9338
@christopherking9338 2 күн бұрын
Go Winterhawks!!!
@HighpointerGeocacher
@HighpointerGeocacher 3 күн бұрын
Another question to ask: if Portland OR is considered such a prime location for an MLB team, then why don't they have a team in the Pacific Coast League? Metro areas like Nashville (Nashville Sounds), Charlotte (Charlotte Knights), and Raleigh-Durham (Durham Bulls) all have AAA teams that are among the most successful teams in minor league baseball.
@d.e.7467
@d.e.7467 6 күн бұрын
Willamette rhymes with dammit.
@edmolash3401
@edmolash3401 5 күн бұрын
Having lived in PDX, public funding for a sportsball facility is a political non-starter. If that’s a disqualification, then it’s game over for MLB in Portland. 100% private funding should be allowed. If so, Portland has good summertime weather, restaurants, a nearby potential rival, indoors and outdoor attractions, and public transit.
@marklentz1095
@marklentz1095 4 күн бұрын
As always with Cheek and Barrett: show me the money. In all these years of the Diamond Project, not one single whiff has emerged of SERIOUS dollars to fufill their dog n pony show. Until they do they are what they are- modern day Harold Hills. They will need at least $3 billion dollars. I can virtually guarantee zero public dollars for this in Oregon. The political climate in OR is vehemently opposed to such financing. Another factor is the Portland market itself. MLB already has a demographic issue. And in the summer in Portland, the sub 45 dollars are already captured by the Timbers and Thorns. I doubt if there is enough oldsters in Lake Oswego and West Linn to compensate for a possible depressed number of more youthful fans- especially for a STH base. P.S. You butchered Willamette.
@FollowSmoke
@FollowSmoke 2 күн бұрын
I am loving this Brodie Brazil guy. Just found him. Such a breath of fresh air when compared to these hot-take blow-hards that drown out good sports commentary.
@williamdesilva67
@williamdesilva67 Күн бұрын
Pronounced it wrong... it's will-am-ette ... not will-om-ette
@119princesskida5
@119princesskida5 4 күн бұрын
We need more ballparks with picturesque city skyline views, a la PNC Park which has the most stunning view in baseball in my opinion. This would likely be up there, and the renderings for the possible new White Sox stadium in the South Loop also look promising.
@geoff3103
@geoff3103 2 күн бұрын
Portland would be good for a CFL team IF, IF Isay, IF the CFL ever got their you know what together.
@mjwings3
@mjwings3 6 күн бұрын
I think Sac gets it. Took the initiative by taking in A's to have that chance to show out. And making in-roads with Manfred and co. and already had the in with being close to Fisher. It was the bold move, a chance to show what they can do with an opp for baseball. Smart move by Ranadive. I think LV A's in '28, Sac (fill in blank), and Nashville (fill in blank) in the East is how it turns out.
@brodiebrazil
@brodiebrazil 6 күн бұрын
and where do the sacramento a's play in 2028?
@paytonrianda9804
@paytonrianda9804 6 күн бұрын
@@brodiebrazil the railyards in downtown sacramento has space already zoned for a 25k seat sports stadium
@mjwings3
@mjwings3 6 күн бұрын
@@brodiebrazil It's just The A's to begin with. And A's will be LV A's in '28. But I do think Sac rides the momentum of taking in A's and doing well with the opp when expansion heats up. Ranadive is already tight with Fisher, he's helping Manfred and MLB out. But it's a real thing, I real try. I think he makes it happen. They get it.
@chriszechariah
@chriszechariah 6 күн бұрын
@@mjwings3yea ur totally right ranadive is doing MLB a huge favor by letting the A’s play in that pathetic minor league park. It’s going to a be a disaster just wait on it. And A’s in LV by 2028? With what Bally’s is going through right now in Chicago I highly doubt they will meet any of their timelines for this half ass project
@mjwings3
@mjwings3 6 күн бұрын
@@chriszechariah You will see, LV A's in 28. But Ranadive is also getting something in return. There are no G's with expansion. It was lame to even think you could force that with the ridculous Oak offer that was just symbolic, but he's getting a chance to show out with MLB in his city. And is already tight with Fisher and making in-roads with Manfred and co. by helping while again, getting something in return. A chance, a real chance. Bolt smart move. I'm just repeating myself of course and I'd guess it won't hit the second or third time. But when all said and done it will be LV A's, Sac (fill in blank), Nashville (fill in blank) is how I think it turns out for A's move and expansion teams.
@scottcrocker3746
@scottcrocker3746 3 күн бұрын
Public funding of some sort is strongly preferred by MLB because other owners don't want more precedent set that stadiums can and should be privately funded.
@bartphlegar8212
@bartphlegar8212 6 күн бұрын
PxP Announcer: "It's a high fly ball going foul over the left field stands." Insert stinger commercial: "🎶Safelite repair! Safelite replace!🎶" PxP Announcer: "Oooh! Looks like that one careened into the river. And there go the scuba medics"...
@This.Here.Channel
@This.Here.Channel 5 күн бұрын
About 20 years ago, there was a bill passed in Oregon which created funding for a ball park (when they tried to get the Expos). I don't know if that is still active or not (I doubt it).
@NicolasBaker-w5l
@NicolasBaker-w5l 3 күн бұрын
As a scorned and fed up Mariners fan (like most), I will absolutely jump ship accros the Columbia if Portland gets a team and shows that they actually want to win
@BrianFuller_0
@BrianFuller_0 4 күн бұрын
You were close. It's "Will-LAMB-it".
@iseewood
@iseewood 5 күн бұрын
The site is great! Right next to I-5 and a transit center that includes Light Rail, Bus and Streetcar with great access to the river. But, the MLB seems intent on growing in the South. Portland is just not growing like Nashville, Austin and Orlando.
@ElvishRossClan
@ElvishRossClan 5 күн бұрын
The Lloyd Center is not downtown. It's on the NE side of town
@MichaelRegan
@MichaelRegan 5 күн бұрын
Splitting hairs? I mean, I guess the Moda Center isn’t downtown either? Cmon…
@basiluzzo
@basiluzzo 4 күн бұрын
@@MichaelRegan No, it's not, not even close. It's 2 miles away and on the other side of a large river. Anything east of the river maybe central but isn't downtown. But agree with you that it's all academic and tangential to the topic.
@edgardls95
@edgardls95 2 күн бұрын
If they're gonna spend money to bring in another professional team, they need to make it worth it and bring the NFL to Portland.
@GizmoBeach
@GizmoBeach 5 күн бұрын
Move the lousy Angels there. They might have another 80-win season again. 🙄
@streettoughfighting
@streettoughfighting 3 күн бұрын
Just keep it on the west side so we don’t gotta deal with that god awful traffic…but I don’t see it being very popular in the city of Portland so that’ll help.
@Victorico13
@Victorico13 2 күн бұрын
I would like to see Nashville get an expansion MLB team
@Boogie_Man971
@Boogie_Man971 6 күн бұрын
Thank you Brodie for producing Willamette correctly.
@subgum3403
@subgum3403 6 күн бұрын
almost
@SortofCinematic
@SortofCinematic 6 күн бұрын
Brodie im loving this mlb expansion series of videos. Super informative and highlights a large trend among pro sports. Keep up the great work 👍
@brodiebrazil
@brodiebrazil 6 күн бұрын
Glad you like them! more to come.
@paulblack9931
@paulblack9931 5 күн бұрын
I also enjoy his takes on relocation and sports stadium news involving the rest of the 4 major sports leagues 🏈 ⚾️ 🏒 🏀
@nickolaslewis4416
@nickolaslewis4416 5 күн бұрын
Take all baseball teams from Florida. The locals there could care less about their teams. They don’t support nor do they show up.
@Paranoidrobot1982
@Paranoidrobot1982 3 күн бұрын
I have the name already== The Portland DinoBeavers
@photographybya7602
@photographybya7602 4 күн бұрын
I hope they make it flood resistant and consult some experts in climate change before they decide where and how to build. Could be cool if they don’t steal a team.
@scottstevens9533
@scottstevens9533 Күн бұрын
They should call the team the Portland Willamettes.
@ZacharyWhite25
@ZacharyWhite25 3 күн бұрын
Who says baseball can’t go from 30 teams to 36 teams?
@VesaJay
@VesaJay 5 күн бұрын
3:31 No, you didn't get it right. Last part is pronounced ( Mit )
@moon-eyedpagan8941
@moon-eyedpagan8941 4 күн бұрын
That bridge in the middle seems like terrible idea. Imagine trying to enjoy a baseball game and then there's a bad accident and a million sirens.
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