Portugal's avocados: Green gold or ecological nightmare? | DW Documentary

[@virn143]

“I can live without avocados but I can’t live without water” Such a true statement

[@gamingtonight1526]

We truly can't have nice things any more...

[@q9c9pilrandagio5]

well a single cow needs the same water at 15 avocado plants if not more...so what are we going to do? are you ready to give up meat?

[@geoms6263]

I can live without water but I can't live without beer my father use to say

[@onengkusumah2905]

i love avocados a lot

[@AlyxGlide]

Bruh not me, avocados are nutritious & delicious. Avocados, toast & beans 🔥 I'd take avocadoes over y'all animal abuse meat farms ANY DAY

[@mana6969]

I grew up eating all types of fruits and vegetables including avocadoes but only when they are in season. The problem in the West is that people want to consume things all throughout the year irrespective of their natural season of availability/production.

[@TheSnoefvy]

And it lacks taste.....

[@nofinn1044]

Do you live in the west?

[@mana6969]

@@nofinn1044 yes now.

[@channelhismojo]

Not just the West.

[@tintinlove7405]

You are so right.where I'm from we eat them only when they are in season and we do not force them to bear year round which is what they are doing.i find those store bought avocados quite bland and taste less.

[@inesgouveia426]

I'm glad DW is shining light on issues like this. I'm portuguese, I live in one of Portugal's great islands and I didn't know about this issue happening in the mainland as this is not mentioned in the news. It's sad to think about the future of my country as we are experiencing heat waves and water shortages in the mainland. It's insane how greedy people are.. will they eat or drink money when all turns to dust?

[@ArtU4All]

So well said “will they drink or eat money?….” Boycott Portuguese avocados. See, they are not even providing employment to the local people. The labor force is imported. If not for the southeast Asians, who would work these farms? Change the laws for foreign labor. Or do you have illegals like in the states?

[@saibamoe]

@@ArtU4All roo late

[@inesgouveia426]

@@ArtU4All I never ate that many avocados but knowing the impact they have I don't think I will buy them to be honest.. maybe if someone offers me avocados from their backyard or something like that.. this situation about immigrants working in plantations and being exploited only came to light because of covid. We knew about those workers but not that they were living in bad environments! I remember seeing in the news how nepalese workers came here and picked berries but their living situation was never covered. But now, we found out that there were several cases of 20 people living in apartments to be able to live and covid started spreading fast among workers so their living situation was investigated.. not only are the farm owners the culprits here, so are the landlords that will increase rent but allow this to happen.. I don't think we have illegals working in Portugal, most people are documented but because they don't know the language and are simply desperate people, they will accept the first opportunity presented.. we don't see brazilians or venezuelans working those jobs, only people that don't understand portuguese whatsoever.. this is a big disadvantage and greedy people take advantage on this unfortunately..

[@PHlophe]

Inés, i am actually surprised people eat those. avocats are really bland, no taste whatsoever but greed and corruption are crazy in PT. make no mistake ,everyone knew spain and portugal exploit migrant workers to death i am surprised you've only heard of this during the covit. that's like saying the clothes you are wearing are from a weaved in Lissabon and sewed somewhere in the south.

[@inesgouveia426]

@@PHlophe like I said, I live in Madeira, a portuguese island and not in the mainland. We don't see those kinds of migrants here because in Madeira we don't have big plantations, therefore those jobs and issues don't exist here. People from the mainland will certainly have a different experience than us and will certainly see this happening in loco and if this doesn't show up in the news, how the hell are we supposed to know about this?

[@whiterabbitangel]

Avocado might be healthy but we really don’t need to eat one or two a day. I think minimize waste and excessive consumption awareness will also be helpful

[@ArtU4All]

The same goes for the almond trees in California. They planted miles of them. Bees have to be brought from far away for pollination. This is not normal. And what do I see? I see almond flower for sale EVERYWHERE. Not just for holidays in specialty stores. The super sweet candy “macaroons” using almond flower are also next to cakes and other bakery goods EVERYWHERE. Overindulgence. To detriment of Nature and our bellies and diabetes worldwide. I live in the county that is the largest avocado producer in the world. We too are in the “desert” region with fire season year-round and PERPETUAL drought. I did not know that avocado trees are water intensive. But I do remember encountering old avocado trees along some creek in Santa Barbara, and the avocados just dropping on the surrounding grass. I definitely with the farmer - “I can live without avocado, but not without water ….”

[@nudetaynehatwobble]

I ate an avocado watching this

[@q9c9pilrandagio5]

well a single cow needs the same water at 15 avocado plants if not more...so what are we going to do? are you ready to give up meat?

[@nudetaynehatwobble]

@@WarAuthority um, there’s hardly any waste water used in the production of soda. It’s literally just carbonated sugar water. Not making the best argument here.

[@andrewilson8096]

@@q9c9pilrandagio5 Why grow things in excess to ship to regions that don't have the amounts to support demand. Simple, once out of season you eat something else. That's how nature was designed, no this crazy monoculture crap pushed by greedy people. All these large plantations use cheap labour. Its a sin.

[@gfav1756]

I'm Portuguese subscriber of DW, thanks for this report, I'm from the north and didn't knew about this. Love to all coinscious people that DW create and brings together...

[@mxblyxky]

Golf courses in luxury condominiums in Portugal also consume a lot of water, destroy the preserved areas of the coast and only generate useless leisure for very few.

[@medinabello19]

Exactly. At least you can eat 🥑 golf courses however are totally useless.

[@brownerjerry174]

@@medinabello19 both are useless, grow back some forests ova there.

[@positivetimeline]

Can we imagine how much pollution coming from everyday lawns mowing?

[@danb2337]

Yes. Golf courses are a major problem in many countries. Definitely here in Japan.

[@DanielMestre86]

Yeah but that they don’t talk about. 300 golf courses for 50 rich old white man to use per year is ok. But this no. Oh no, the drought!

[@kellytozarindamasceno6709]

When I was a child, no one used to care about avocados, we had many varieties of avocado in our yard, we never watered the avocado tree. We used to give them to the neighbors and for those who wanted to pick them up, we always left a large amount for the birds and the rest (a lot) would fall to the ground . I was raised in a tropical country, Portugal has the right temperature but not the right amount of rain for avocados trees.

[@l23722]

Portugal does not have the right temperature, that is why the trees need to be sprinckled with water during the winter months to avoid burning their leafs with frosts.

[@minahtheweirdo]

Sam's with Jamaica. We don't pay attention to any fruit trees and they do just fine.

[@markgeurts258]

@@l23722 Then use the mexicola/pure mexican variëties..

[@b_uppy]

Also using poor method to grow them complicates the issue, such as lack of ground cover, like living mulches...

[@mcmircaba]

Same here in the Northeast of Brazil. I had some avocado trees in the backyard and ate one fruit only once in a while. Most of them fell on the ground, got rotten, were eaten by bats or so. Now I see avocados being called the seventh wonder of gastronomy. 😆

[@misiu5203]

"...with new jobs being created." A few moments later... "Industrial production requires hard physical labour in stifling temperatures... with locals these days reluctant to do the job the farms recruit workers from Bangladesh, India and Nepal..." _Slow clap_

[@eduardoferreira2518]

The woman is not a local her self. She's brazilian, probably came to Portugal looking for work as well... So she's is defending her point of view.... And not worried for what happens in the future

[@misiu5203]

@@eduardoferreira2518 I didn't know that Brazilians came from Bangladesh, India or Nepal! I learn something new everyday.

[@youxkio]

@@misiu5203 Yes and giraffes are migrating to the Arctic pole, all because of climate change!

[@jhanninnen]

11:19 She's speaking Portuguese and has a Brazilian accent.... I may be wrong but we have many avocado trees over here, so I can imagine that is kind of hard to see any problem

[@alexsequeira3558]

@@misiu5203 aren't you playing stupid! She was the driver of the van that did not the researchers on the "private road "

[@garyradley5694]

The growing of Avocado in Chile is also causing great problems. As the aquifers are lowered by the Avocado plantations the nearby residents are left without water. They have to now pay to get water it trucked in, on top of having to pay for the expensive storage tanks required. There is an excellent video on the TRT World channel on KZbin about this problem. It seems that as most of the farm workers in the Agave are imported from Asia there is little benefit to the local people.

[@jacklambert2607]

Also the salmon farms are causing problems in Chile. If you haven't already, please watch the DW documentary on the salmon.

[@jaypuck6912]

How many miles of coastline does Chile have? Oh, yeah. You forgot about that. Ever heard of a desalination plant?

[@jacklambert2607]

@@jaypuck6912 The energy requirement for desalinating that volume of seawater isn't practical. There are millions of acres of corn in the US. Perhaps everyone should just cram a bushel of corn into their car's fuel tank ... Voila! Ethanol!

[@jaypuck6912]

@@jacklambert2607 Being without water is less practical.

[@jaypuck6912]

@@jacklambert2607 I just looked it up. It takes about 10 KWh to produce 1000 gallons of water. There's always a way, if there's a need.

[@ZaasKenar]

Hugo talks about the "carbon footprint", but keeps quiet about the "water footprint".

[@MegaVictor1129]

Carbon comes out,and stays there (bad) Water comes in,and then it comes back (that means its infinite) The problem is not the use of a finite resource,but the expansion of mass production without the means to do it properly How can they feed a huge focused plantantion with a local reservoir?? that's insane,the only way going foward would be to dam the whole area so they can use the water from it for farming.

[@cancerino666]

The carbon footprint isn't necessarily lower either. Depends of the mode of transportation. Most Portugal exports to northern Europe go by truck, which has a much higher carbon footprint than container ships.

[@Mclagging98]

@@MegaVictor1129 are we talking about freshwater? cause that is not infinite

[@MegaVictor1129]

@@Mclagging98 The water from rivers end up in the sea,but for some reason they still keep pumping more and more water,why is that? Saltwater evaporates,but the salt stays there and fresh water becomes rain,dams= using more of potencial rain water Using wells for such farms Will surelly dry the place quickly,using dams is more realistic for industrial agriculture

[@knottyboy6086]

@@Mclagging98 fresh water Is infinite. If it was not, you might want to let rain know that it is not real.

[@njugunamaina]

So in short, leave the tropical fruit growing to the tropics

[@q9c9pilrandagio5]

And yet...well a single cow needs the same water at 15 avocado plants if not more...so what are we going to do? are you ready to give up meat?

[@njugunamaina]

@@q9c9pilrandagio5 I honest to god don't know where you got your figures from but here goes. A steer needs between 15 to 60 litres of water a day depending on the season and it's slaughtered around 12 to 24 months but a mature avocado tree needs a constant 80 litres of water and in scorching conditions it may need up to 150 litres plus it can live for many years. So although American scale beef farming is bad for the environment it's even worse to plant avocado trees in water stressed systems

[@alterego157]

@@q9c9pilrandagio5 Don't lie son

[@pp_sangtis]

@@njugunamaina no. Only about 10 lt /a bucket of water everyday to grow avocado/mango fruit per tree. Where did u get ur data from? Very misleading

[@alterego157]

@@pp_sangtis . Don't lie son. It's 80 liters a day, says right in this video.

[@jonsonjavier7465]

In the Philippines, we just let our avocado grow with itself without watering and the use of pesticides/herbicides because it is a tropical tree. It bears a lot of fruits every year.

[@ramiroflores4543]

@@RR-ll2ns mexico is #1 producer in avocados in the world by far the 2nd place, and avocados "originated" in mexico, the avocado tree is native to mexico 🇲🇽!!!

[@MichaelSmith-fu3bm]

You get a lot of rain

[@alexanderlionhart284]

@@ramiroflores4543 Nice

[@Mark-ro5lf]

Avocado is a tropical fruit, it means that it can be easily cultivated in those regions that got plenty of water like center or South American Countries and not in Europe.

[@bradleynoneofyourbizz5341]

Central America is running out of water, as well. And all the while avocado farms are increasing.

[@tuforu4]

Lots in KENYA

[@alexcontreras6103]

Lets get some facts straight the greatest producer is in North America which is Mexico. Also that lady is not 100% correct depending on which species of the 3 Avocados it's not technically a tropical tree, as the Mexican and Guatemalan varieties which are the most popular ones are highland species (Hass is a hybrid of the two) while the west indies variety is tropical which is what you find in Florida and South America but it's very bland in taste which is not the one that Portugal is growing or any mediterrean region including California

[@lissarodrigues8950]

It meant to grow there.

[@viiIeiraS]

Some parts of Europe with Mediterranean climate can successfully cultivate tropical fruit, what doesn't mean we should because some cultures will ruin the land. For example here, in Portugal it's really easy to cultivate passion fruit in the summer, but the plant will probably die during the freezing winter days.

[@silvioatutube]

@11:07 the narrator mentions the activist's work is interrupted by "a local resident". She may be a resident, but being Brazilian (you can tell from her accent), she's as local as the German activists!

[@Taiphen]

Exactly -_-

[@diogomrks]

Exactly what I thought, I had to rewind and listen to her accent, they'd be happy to mess up the area extract all they can and go back home/Brazil they have no ties or commitment to the area and their citizens

[@heldercristovao8255]

I thought the same thing, Silvio.

[@marianasalles242]

Bravo what he said, “ …i cant live without water” 💦

[@SolaceEasy]

I hope all of the folks who are against these plantations have stopped eating avocados. All avocados - because the market is connected.

[@conceptcs]

@@SolaceEasy You can live your whole life without eating one avocado.

[@youxkio]

@@SolaceEasy ... which are mostly vegetarian-environmentalists. I would call them "hypocrites."

[@q9c9pilrandagio5]

well a single cow needs the same water at 15 avocado plants if not more...so what are we going to do? are you ready to give up meat?

[@jaypuck6912]

Yeah. It's a good thing the country is on the coast and has unlimited water.

[@freddieqmercury5961]

Almonds in California, is depleting their water in a huge way.

[@timberwolfe1645]

Just to Add on: ANNNDDDDD AVACADOS!!!

[@vincentyeo88]

Export water in the form of high-value-added fruits to earn foreign exchange and become rich.

[@toni4729]

Yep, California, the land is sinking from the water that's being sucked up from underground. It's gone down two feet so far last year I believe.

[@davidarundel6187]

Vineyards are doing the same damage, as grapes require lots of water to retain fruit, as do many fruiting trees.

[@toni4729]

@@davidarundel6187 Grapes are fine and don't need such specialised areas to grow. What I find annoying is when they grow sultana grapes. There's no point in growing beautiful grapes just to dry them up. That's sacrilege.

[@kevingituma1019]

In Kenya the trees grow everywhere, half of the fruit are actually thrown away or fed to animals

[@CHMichael]

Is Kenya waiting for a white man to come and buy them for cents on the dollar?

[@romanlepricon]

Actually close to 70% of Hass avocados go to export the ones that get thrown are the less popular variety

[@vincentyeo88]

No problem with feeding the lower grades of fruits to animals. Then you get good meat for food.

[@NyanyiC]

And no one waters those trees in Africa

[@jacqdanieles]

@@CHMichael what strange phrasing of a question 🤔 _"Kenya is ranked eighth in worldwide avocado production. The nation exported 26,481 tons of the fruit between January and March this year, compared to 15,101 tons in 2020."_

[@floridanaturalfarming3367]

I am so disgusted with all these monocrop growers, driving, scraping up, grading destroying all the soil ecology namely the mycelium that if it hadn’t been destroyed could have provided most of the water and nutritional needs for their avocados. Look at Florida Citrus for inspiration, total ignorance.

[@karmathegiant]

Totally agree with this comment.

[@perlaarrebatada9726]

Ignorance and a a lot of greed. This is the great problem of human being

[@vkngwmn6636]

your politicians are to blame

[@vkngwmn6636]

@@perlaarrebatada9726 not all humans are greedy...

[@lizeggar2421]

Fruit farming with trees is not possible if you change the crop annually. Just don't farm in low rainfall areas. Follow the South African way of building ds on the farms to save every drop of water.

[@coratheexplorer1824]

This is the fault of celebrities chef advertising avocado sala,d avocado toast, avocado mouse, avocado miracle.

[@q9c9pilrandagio5]

well a single cow needs the same water at 15 avocado plants if not more...so what are we going to do? are you ready to give up meat?

[@timberwolfe1645]

So true; Well Said

[@denisdarwis3054]

@@q9c9pilrandagio5 did you use a template for replying?

[@somguy728]

NO, this the fault of celebrity worshippers the jump on every trend.

[@puritybenson5008]

Globalisation caused by greedy westerners, is killing the world.

[@rsaiproject9263]

always astonished by dw works on these documentaries!

[@xCherryxGamingx]

Same here

[@memesforplebs7341]

This is the rise of the avocado toast army

[@toni4729]

Same trouble with almond farming all over the land in Australia and South America. California too. Those trees are dip fed as well and each almond needs a couple of gallons of water, bloody ridiculous.

[@onechristianwallace]

I always come to watch DW's documentaries when am deep into my fasting window.It hits differently.

[@T.v.d.V]

The carbon footprint argument is used without deep thinking. Changing glass beverage bottles for plastic was promoted with the same idea.... imagine how well that went along....

[@heldercristovao8255]

As a kid vacationing in Portugal, I still remember bringing our empties back to the store for reuse. That was around 30 years ago. I don’t remember being at all bothered by this. It was just how things were done.

[@LiquidShivaz]

How can public roads become private overnight? I d think the government is included in this new’ industry. Is there more pesticides used on these crops compared to the endless farms already existing?

[@mortenthorpe]

Southern Europe is rife with corruption… Look at southern Spain as well, it’s terrible how local politicians and such are dragged into crime and exploits… google Marbella mayor crime if in doubt…

[@lysdexsick]

I'm Portuguese and had no idea about this problem. There's similar situations regarding other crops and the trees for the paper industry also contribute to the desertification of Portugal. And Spain!!

[@q9c9pilrandagio5]

well a single cow needs the same water at 15 avocado plants if not more...so what are we going to do? are you ready to give up meat?

[@fena0701]

I've been working for avocado producers in Mexico and this has been an issue for a long time here. Berries and avocado are fighting for water supply, water por people is not an option.

[@PHlophe]

all of those avocadoes go to California and then NYC. what a shame. its like Papaya in the philippines that shit drinks water like nobody.

[@DiogoF.]

I am Portuguese. My grandfather and father used to take care of several avocado trees, some on our backyard and I used to climb them even as little child. Beautiful trees, great for the very warm summers.

[@PHlophe]

Diego, sounds like your abuelo consumed the entire villages' water supply.

[@DiogoF.]

@@PHlophe We lived in Madeira, so water was not a problem on this Portuguese island. It remains like that until today.

[@thejecs8]

@@PHlophe his name is Diogo, not Diego and grandfather in Portuguese is avô, not abuelo, we are not Spaniards

[@goncalomeneses5611]

@@PHlophe His name is Diogo and in Portuguese it it called Avô ... what a dodo and even thinks that is so smart. DO DO .

[@eiikii]

What DW calls "locals" are the german and british (and the brazilian lady).

[@gregoriyrogerg6296]

DW, to continue the the topic of water disappearing, make please a report on water pumped by oil production companies into oil reservoirs to keep productivity of wells. Just my small company pumps 5000 m3 a day. It's madness. Avocado trees consumption is just a drop in this ocean of water losses.

[@PHlophe]

Gregory, you need to stop drinking coca cola and all types of fizzy drinks because that is where your mater's going.

[@gregoriyrogerg6296]

@@PHlophe couldn't catch your way of thinking, man, sorry 🙂

[@falahbaloch]

Best of luck👍DW Wonderful Work✌️

[@imeldaancheta4553]

In the Philippines Avocado is not an issue, each houses have their own avocado tree and if you have a surplus of fruit you give to your neighbors or friends. Bottomline this is all about man's greed.

[@PHlophe]

but Papayas ( i like the Pinoy pronunciation of it Puh-Pah-iaah ! ) does as much damage there.

[@MichaelSmith-fu3bm]

Big difference you get a lot of rain ...they don't

[@Neteruk]

Almost every African in the farmer regions has an avocado tree. We don't plant thousands of trees, because that's stupid, greedy, and frankly pointless. What Europeans should do, is copy us. Plant an avocado tree on your compound. They get no profits, you get fruits to eat, and surplus to process and store, or give away and feel good about yourselves. Then their 26000 trees become useless, because nobody wants to buy what they can literally pick off trees. Same applies to most other fruits. Best part, is that you never have to overwork yourself with them. Make it a hobby, and get healthy. Capitalist merchants' greed needs to come to an end before it annihilates human chances of survival.

[@valtterimalinen5247]

Problem is you cant grow avocados in 95% of Europe.

[@timberwolfe1645]

Yes!! 1 Tree, great. 1 thousand....STUPID

[@puritybenson5008]

@@valtterimalinen5247 eat what you can grow, stop copying others

[@catcastle4377]

I have an avocado tree and I don't really have to water it when it matured. When it matured, it only gets water from rain. (Edit: I live in SEA)

[@CHMichael]

Florida - it doesn't rain much from November to June

[@ДанилоКомненић]

One tree.

[@jacklambert2607]

You can grow most things by hydroponic means in Seattle! 😁

[@cordeliav3055]

Wow, I did not realise. live in a sub-tropical area of eastern Australia. The avocado tree outside our bedroom window has flourished greatly in recent times, and now I know why. It is feasting on the waste water we don’t put in the septic! Avocados, like mangoes, don’t like wet feet and so it must be sucking up all this excess water and keeping the ground below fairly dry, which I found puzzling at first.

[@stefangabor5985]

Let me tell you a little story, in Las Vegas Nevada one famer is getting about 70% of the total amount of water from Colorado river for farming while his contribution to local economy it is less than 1%. On the other hand, the entire gaming industries in Las Vegas takes about 3% of the amount of water and yet it represents over 90% of the total state income. Why beating a dead horse?

[@shelbynamels973]

Let me add some more. The casinos are legally required to minimize their water consumption thru the use of low=flow showers and toilets, aerated faucets with motion sensors and recycling of grey water. The farmer, I bet you, is not required to operate under any such restrictions. They can just splash as much water on the ground as they need.

[@youxkio]

Wow!!!

[@youxkio]

@@shelbynamels973 Wow!

[@onengkusumah2905]

well, you can't eat those gaming chips

[@stefangabor5985]

@@onengkusumah2905 It's all about getting the priorities straight and protecting the most valuable resource, essential to life. You can have all the food you want but when there is no more water it's all over, kaputt.

[@billcartormayank4718]

Once again we are your grateful for your benevolence

[@feisaldianga511]

Avocado farming can be beneficial to the economy of a nation and job creation, but it can also cause serious consequences like water shortages especially in this era of climate change that we live in

[@Firm-Tofu-King]

Animal agriculture is worse in terms of water consumption

[@RoundBaguette]

Lmao yeah no, and I live in Chile

[@ruekurei88]

Seems like nonsense on the job creation part, since they seem to be heavily reliant on immigrant labour. I suppose some in the community get jobs, but it wont mean much when those companies pull out and the region is screwed over in terms of job loss, economic instability and a monumental decrease in water supply and land degradation. Climate change is exacerbating the latter two even more I would imagine.

[@tuforu4]

@@ruekurei88 u very CHEERFUL

[@robsonrobson4999]

@@Firm-Tofu-King This comment is quite far from the truth - at least if you were to compare it with extensive livestock farming.

[@fralovagon]

I am not taking any side here, but at min 4.30 when the owner of the plantation says: "eu não vejo problema nenhum" which means: I dont see any problem (regarding thr fact that the contact him through is secretary if they want to talk, instead of invading his property with cameras), DW documentary translates it by: "I dont want to see you causing any trouble." It is a wrong translation and makes it sound like a threat. Seems to me like biased journalism.

[@tomjohn8733]

Why wasn’t an environmental impact report conducted prior to the Hugh avocado growers being giver permission by government officials…

[@Oceansta]

Excellent documentry. Gold standard reporting.

[@dlewis8405]

I always know when the dark and ominous music starts playing that the DW doc is "unveiling something nefarious".

[@jordanbertagnolli7388]

DW is one of the world's best news sources.

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[@Putukusi]

13:30 "Shouldn't we produce here?" No, you shouldn't . Plant olive trees instead.

[@sozbdulrhmanli3300]

Thanks for posting DW channel

[@Whatever-mx3bt]

It's always some factory worker or CEO going "no there's no water loss, the farmers are lying"... no they're telling the truth, you're just all comfy in your privileged position to be unaffected by their strife...

[@q9c9pilrandagio5]

well a single cow needs the same water at 15 avocado plants if not more...so what are we going to do? are you ready to give up meat?

[@gregtaylor8327]

Over 75 percent ofAvocados grown in New Zealand are not irrigated. I Water mine approx 1 or 2 times per year. 1000 trees high producing for export and local markets. They will happily grow with little water.

[@93lornamae]

New zealand have lots of water.

[@marianasalles242]

God bless those people who fight for equality, sustainability and into a healthier, greener lifestyle🙏🏻✨🌱🌏

[@q9c9pilrandagio5]

nice, a fellow vegan.

[@timberwolfe1645]

Just not AVACADO eating Healthy lifestyle

[@roseslasher]

Now is avacoado season here and for the rest of winter. Happy days .

[@cassandra8620]

Same in Spain, lots of new plantages yet, the Spanish government warns about water shortage in the near future

[@scotsam7590]

The B&B owner have a very good point. However, why does he have such a big grass lawn in a predominantly dry land? Also, where are his water butts? There are dry country landscaping designs that would require no watering in his garden. They're all guilty.

[@ifyouvote.5005]

When i heard them say they will take legal action. These people have no idea how Corrupt Portugal is.

[@l23722]

LOL...here comes the guy from a corrupt country saying Portugal is corrupt...do us a favour!

[@ifyouvote.5005]

@@l23722 What country is that.

[@bekaludile1281]

DW IS MY FAVORITE CHANNEL

[@MulaSaafChasers]

My company makes units that re-uses water back to the plants/trees w/a you're growing... Sooo... buy some of our units! water problem solved.

[@Walter-Montalvo]

Name of company and website?

[@peterh.7078]

Thanks, another great documentary.

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[@pp_sangtis]

Avocadoes grow best in tropical area. They need many water to bear fruit , but actually not that much. Only about 8-16 L of water per day per tree in the growing seasons. Better to plant them on the mountain area , bc the weather is cooler & so the water will dry up/ evaporate very slowly. Thats the practical way to save many water while growing avocadoes👍 As an indonesian i really love avocado smoothie , es puter , durian snacks💖 i'll choose them over pizza & burger & even beers!💖

[@RayMak]

They really take up a lot of water

[@cancerino666]

Haven't heard about this shit anywhere on the news. Great work DW, and wtf TV news?

[@krasje28]

The local resident said:" It creates new jobs". Correct for foreigners it seems so perhaps she should investigate a little bit instead of being worried that it is a private road.

[@The145Club]

I lived and owned property in the Algarve from the 1960’s - 2010, spending 50% of my time there. Water was always the key and most critical issue in doing anything. It’s alarming to see the Portuguese people losing control over their land, assets and talents. The need to import workers is mind-blowing! Large corporations running things like before the 25th of April… but now with foreigners?! Wake up Portugal! You are sacrificing your heritage😱😔

[@stefangabor5985]

The Portuguese did just that - to other people - for hundreds of years, no?

[@The145Club]

@@stefangabor5985 sadly history shows this to be true. The aspect not discussed in this documentary with regard to “sell outs”, are the massive tourist developments that took out everything in their path. Last time I was there in 2012, many were unfinished, falling into decay… it was most depressing. As for the developments that are occupied, their water and energy consumption are huge. Put all the pieces together and it’s not a pretty picture. It was once quite a paradise…😞 … btw for some time, we had no electric or water… needless to say no AVAC either lol. Water was collected in a cistern under the house. It filled up during the rainy months. We had a generator for evenings, but often sat and read by oil lamp - in the winter a fireplace provided heat. I spent a good deal of my childhood there, living in that way. It was a beautiful and valuable experience. It’s lessons have lasted thru my lifetime: conserve & respect water and all energy sources. Human beings and friendly animals, and the stories told in books, are often more rewarding ways to spend ones time than with video games and cable TV… those were the days. Must excuse me - I’m old enough to see and value the past 😊☺️

[@eduardoferreira2518]

@@stefangabor5985 what does that have to do with whats happening here?

[@stefangabor5985]

@@eduardoferreira2518 The import of migrants workers.

[@duArtj]

@@stefangabor5985 two wrongs don't make a right

[@Prabhakars]

Wow i m so excited for New video.

[@YahyaZitan]

Im glad you did this. You should do one on golf sport, and the use of water in golf courses too don't you think? actually i think it should have come before the avocado which actually have food produce. That being said, avocados or any fruit should be consumed in the season. and i think what is hurting is people wanting one or two avocados a day the whole year long...

[@l23722]

Golf, and oranges, lemons, olives, carobs, etc...all of them are at the same level as avocados. None are native, all was resources and empoverish the soil in Portugal. On the way, vineyards as well. Another non monoculture that no one seems to remember. All those "mediterranean" preconception are not native to Portugal!

[@karmathegiant]

Great documentary. Countries that have little rainfall should not be growing tropical fruit. I usually buy avocados 🥑 maybe twice a month. Usually two each time because inevitably one will be rotten. I feel like most of the stores throw out more than they sell. I’ll definitely stop buying them now! Governments need to wake up and start protecting water supplies and stop the use of herbicides and pesticides. It’s a battle here in Canada also. With monoculture tree farms etc.

[@Camilla_Kudrin]

1:45 It's recommended to work 35-40 hours a week. No more. So it's very important to remember it.

[@alterego157]

Recommended by who, some lazy coward?

[@warriorhi6051]

In Asia, most people working at least 60 hours a week, that’s why Asian are kicking European ass

[@denzelheden4256]

DW, my home country, the first European and Portuguese colony(Angola) does not have water problem for irrigation in terms of farming, the soil is fertile, in fact under Portuguese colony Angola was the main provider of grains(food), but if you go in Angola today, you will see people complaining about food, food is too expensive because the government turn a blind eye on local production. Angola does not produce it imports foods even though they can do it by themselves...

[@njugunamaina]

Imagine my shock when I realized Angola is just below the DRC and the rainforest, you guys should be agricultural powerhouses by now

[@denzelheden4256]

@@njugunamaina now you know bro... corruption and incompetence

[@jackvanden-plas4366]

Tell the locals in Portugal to do some self study into drought, a prime example is South Africa which recently experienced a severe drought.

[@CHMichael]

South Africa also has a management problem. Don't blame it all on global warming.

[@ChessNoobX]

@@CHMichael South Africa has a democratic management...far better than the murderous white supremacy and oppressive regime of the past😁

[@charmscharms5963]

Hey Rosendo Puig....Is that you at the beginning of this documentary?...The guy with the cap and the red shirt??

[@geoffrey6420]

Once the ground water is depleted,the place shall be like Southern Italy.

[@antoeckhart]

What an ignorant comment!

[@natiellejardim872]

I'm Portuguese and leaving in Lagos. I'm very grateful that they did the documentary and I'm happy they spread the knowledge and truth about this matter.

[@PHlophe]

Natielle, you live in Lekki ?

[@q9c9pilrandagio5]

well a single cow needs the same water at 15 avocado plants if not more...so what are we going to do? are you ready to give up meat?

[@johannesgoes7988]

Happy? Tomorrow they can do one on orange farming. I bet an avocado tree consumes as much as an orange tree. Would you like to wipe out orange farming in the Algarve? And orange farming hardly makes any money thanks to Spanish dumping their oranges there. So yes, if orange growing is allowed then why not avocados which give the farmer 4 times more money?

[@PHlophe]

@@johannesgoes7988actually if you had made the small effort to look it up online and actually bother compare. You'd know that avocadoes need a minimum of 3 times as much water to grow as oranges and that's just the minimum and then you get avocadoes as big as an eyeball ( basically) . The global comparative amount is 5-7L for avocadoes vs 3L -ish for oranges. avocadoes are singled out for waste of precious resources for the exact same reason almonds are ( which then needs to be transformed into almond milk ) is no coincidence at all. and this means, western nations are the largest consumers of those imported goods, those are the only continents that are turning nations into desert just because of overindulgence on goods that are supposed to be seasonal only..

[@johannesgoes7988]

@@PHlophe I have made the effort and saw that an orange tree requires 5 liters of water per day> More interestingly I saw that an orange tree produces between 100 to 150 kgs per tree and the avocado tree 600 KGS!!! As said by someone else here government should provide more reservoirs and off they go. The Algarve is very dependent on just tourism and a greater income from agriculture should be welcomed. With 600 kgs per tree, there is no reason not to pay Portuguese workers a decent wage.

[@l23722]

1- The guys name is "Joaquim", not "wakim". To start with he's portuguese, not spanish, so stop trying to read portuguese names in spanish, you will get them wrong. Not happy with that, even in spanish you read it wrong. 2- The woman on th road was Brazilian, she was not "local". Most people in this vide are not locals at all. 3- Acados as bad, so are eucalyptus, pine, olive trees, orange and lemons tres, etc, that you did not mentioned or worst, mentioned as "tradicional". Should I remin you that citrus trees are from humid subtropical areas, just like avacados? Pines are not native as you claimed either, they were just a different monoculture that preceeded the current ones.

[@noramaddy4409]

DW please do a report on the private ownership of water in Australia and the environmental damage the owners are permitted to continue.

[@katiehettinger7857]

In Portugal mattering where you live you get 57 to 20in. per year. The Algarve is at the lower end, but residents might consider gather rain for agricultural use. It is successful in the arid southwest of the USA and dependents not on rainfall, but gathering dew in the early hours.

[@l23722]

Well, 20inch is just short of what London gets. So, indeed there is a mismanagment of water reasources. Said that, the problem is that monocultures cause way more harm than just water shortages and I mean all of them, not just avocados. Orange or Lemon groves are no better, olive and almost groves are destroying Alentejo, Beira Interior and Trás-os-Montes, the fires one speak so much about, started with the Pine monocultures that in this video was presented as "native" when in fact is an invasive species produced for economic reasons (before the arrival of the eucalyptus). We need a good reforestation project with natives trees, not forein olives trees, oranges trees, carobs trees, almond trees and all the other "mediterranean" crap that people gew used to associate with Portugal and that are actually non native at all!

[@ernestkj]

Wonder if DW can tell the difference between south Asia and south east Asia?

[@takuan650]

Wherever one looks, there is short sighted destructive greed. The best and fastest way of combat this madness is not to buy. Simple and very effective.

[@davidarundel6187]

Haven't brought avacados, for years due to the costs involved. They used to taste better then as well - very buttery, for the Hass - the other varietys were tasty though one - round fruit - was quite watery to the taste buds.

[@b_uppy]

Half of the problem of 'heavy' water usage is the bare ground, or inappropriate ground covers used in avocado orchards. Living mulches (plants that cover the soil while retaining ground moisture) are a resourceful way to protect the soil from wind, solarization, and flooding. They can reduce the need for irrigation. If succulents are used in number they can also protect in the event of fire. A mutually beneficial mix of plants can also cut down water use. Soil, and plants do best in polycultures. Better still if the polycultures are compatible such that they complement each other. A 'plant guild' is a permaculture term used to describe a type of companion planting. This involves plant groups, rather than mere pairings of plants. Plants are often chose for nitrogen- fixing capability, insectaries to host beneficial insects, hormonal/biochemical compatibility, size, tolerance, and other beneficial properties. If they employed better growing practices such as using guilds, water usage would decrease, productivity would still increase.

[@elvenkind6072]

Here in Norway, specially on the west-coast where the mountains catches the rain-clouds coming in from the Atlantic, we have so much water we are literally self-sufficient when it come to producing hydro-power electricity. We already have pipelines going down to Germany and Holland, supplying people there with natural gas we don't use for anything ourselves. We don't have gas-heating, gas-power plants, nor do we have a single gas-stove in the country, everything is electricity, made from waterfalls turned into dams feeding huge tubes that power turbines with the water-flow... So I imagine it's just a matter of investment to pour all our excess rainwater down to southern Europe in pipes. Investment and time.

[@WackyNZ]

NZ the same hydro, thermal, and wind, no nuclear power here as NZ and its waters are nuclear free. We still have a coal burning station but that's to top up the grid. We do have gas though for bbq and some water heating cooking maybe even a few cars out there running lpg. I have been saying for years save water to my friends but alas they laugh at me, i grow my own veg and use only collected rain water.

[@dyana3965]

Did the Sarah Desert dry out due to mass farming? It seems that mass farming by big companies are depleting Soil and water from the land. Thank you DW for sharing.

[@interestingtopics-adeepera6497]

I genuinely don't understand all the fuss about avocados, they're really quite plain.

[@0xszander0]

The variety sold to us. The type with little bumps, that are tiny. Those are indeed fairly tasteless. Not much fruit either. They are perfect for transport and last longer. The good tasting ones are not.

[@BillyPhilipRwoth]

The avocados that grow in parts of Africa like Uganda for example, in people’s compounds and backyards, are bigger and tastier. The ones I tasted in the UK, the smaller ones from large extractive farms in South America, were not nice!

[@Creole_Lady]

They're obviously a huge favorite across the 🌎.

[@ruekurei88]

Depends on the ones you eat. We have plenty here in the Caribbean, but a ripe avocado wouldn't last too long in a grocery store as I've seen in Brazil. Also, as people have said, the texture, size and taste is different.

[@tuforu4]

@@BillyPhilipRwoth KENYA

[@mrluckyuncle]

For comparison, a swimming pool might lose to evaporation about the same amount as an avocado tree consumes every day.

[@htopherollem649]

no

[@essieessie5399]

Hardly a logical comparison

[@mrluckyuncle]

@@essieessie5399 Why not? They both use water, they're both unnecessary, they both exist in southern Portugal, they both use land. Same for lawns. They all, also, provide benefits of one kind or another. They compete for the same limited resource: water.

[@htopherollem649]

@@mrluckyuncle for the 5years that I was the primary care giver of a friend (stage 4 breast cancer) I took care of her 13ft deep inground pool. It made her happy to dangle her feet over the edge while her great grandchildren swam to their hearts contentment. even during the hottest stretches of heatwave the pool did not require an amount that is equal to the use of a 5 member family (as stated in the video per tree ) I would confidently bet less than a third would be sufficient and for only extreme circumstances. that's why no! false equivalencies

[@mrluckyuncle]

@@htopherollem649 Thanks. I only know from googling for what the typical amount of swimming pool evaporation on a daily basis is. I didn't check it myself. Seems like it could be 600 gallons/week. But it depends upon a lot of factors -- like weather. Whatever the amount is, it's worth comparing. But you might be right. I was accepting what the video says for how much water an avocado tree needs per day -- 50 gallons. But here in California, which has a climate similar to Portugal's and also grows avocados, the rule of thumb is only 20 gallons/day for a mature tree. I was going to bet you -- but now I don't know what the data are. Seems like the video might be incorrect.

[@SuperCapuka]

Can’t wait for an update in 5 years. Like everything the demand of avocados will diminish over the years and what is profit today will become a liability tomorrow.

[@ayeshadequeiroz4857]

I’m a California native that lived in San Diego county for 17 years. I can tell you that Big Agriculture rules this state and serves the water needs of these corporations at the expense of the water needs of the people. Avocado trees do t being in drought regions. Look at California, Portugal should stop these vulture capitalists that are ruining their neighbors land.

[@mrluckyuncle]

Now hold on a minute. "An avocado tree consumes as much water per day as a family of four." I wonder what that means. I see elsewhere that a mature avocado might need 20 gallons/day of irrigation. I suppose at the same time the tree is drawing water beyond this from the soil. But as much as a family of four? That seems implausible.

[@Phil-D83]

Where my dad is from near Fatima, there is no lack of water about 1 meter below the surface.

[@ruicorreia1860]

he should showed theirs full capacities reservoirs.

[@akeleven]

Funny to find this video when we have exactly the same problem in Cochise county Arizona. But the crops are nuts and milk! Between the nut farms and the dairies, who ship milk to europe, our water is being pumped out of the ground faster than it can be replenished. The land is dropping. Fizzures open up in the highway in a 10 mile radius, 5 miles from my house, where I worry about losing the well water that allows me to live here. The house won't be worth what I paid for it. Meanwhile hundreds of additional acres are being planted this year during a severe drought!

[@2kool4myskool]

Portugal has plenty of water that’s why the plantations pop up, the land is a resource and water management is up to the state. I prefer to see more farming communities than golf courses and it’s not just big corporations but also small local and foreign farmers who are cashing in.

[@kikikut22]

very good job DW Documentary!

[@claudettedelphis6476]

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[@eseskay99]

I wish that the avocado factory would put different toys inside: I always get a wooden ball to play with. At least Kinder Surprise chocolates have many different toys inside.

[@sumitpaul3080]

We just want to enjoy our current moment...this greedy mentality of ours are ruining the world. Even if for food!

[@q9c9pilrandagio5]

well a single cow needs the same water at 15 avocado plants if not more...so what are we going to do? are you ready to give up meat?

[@TroyTempest777]

@@q9c9pilrandagio5 Cows -whether for dairy or meat, can be raised in areas of the world that don't suffer water shortages. Growing crops like Avocado or other thirsty crops in areas that DO suffer shortages or even potential drought is very short sighted,and probably in the long run will actually damage the avocado industry itself.

[@sumitpaul3080]

@@q9c9pilrandagio5 Yeah I am a vegetarian, If you want to stop cow slaughtering go ahead I am with you!

[@alterego157]

@@q9c9pilrandagio5 Don't lie son

[@michaelansbro1512]

avocados take the place of a golf course and some irrigation circles in the background. In California (US of A) I had avocados in the back yard as a kid. picked green and shipped, they taste like crap. Its easy to put a miniature avocado in your yard here.

[@Lucn221]

I am portuguese and this doc makes me sad, as humans we can not live without water all people care is when it happens not what we can do to prevent it. We are so quiet and "well behave" that we let our state to do whatever they want, just money, greed and more greed will lead us to no good!

[@jepulis6674]

You have solar and wind there. So maybe desalination plants powered with that cheap energy to feed water for agriculture?

[@AriadneDoCastelo]

Great documentary! You should do more about Portugal, there's a whole lot to speak about!!

[@voitek.]

in minute 18 the music is too loud, I couldnt hear the guy

[@aliramzan786]

Love DW ❤️ ❤️ 💕

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[@kimbutterfly5692]

If the short term rental hosts were concerned about the environment, they should do something about that huge lawn. Not that I consume much of it but this made me rethink having avocadoes on my grocery list. I really hope small scale farmers who practice sustainable farming would get help from the government and that corporations on the other hand are penalized more. This will encourage small, sustainable farms to thrive and become more affordable while making it harder for corporations to sell goods at a bargain price. With the climate emergency, a lot more people are making conscious decisions and although personal actions can only contribute a little bit to the whole picture, being mindful of our consumer decisions will surely affect those who contribute most to the problems we’re having now- corporations/capitalism.

[@anarosado3123]

Thank you! My first thought was "is this moron complaining about his farmer neighbour while LITERALLY CLEANING A HUGE POOL AND WATERING A LAWN?? Avocados may not be native flora but neither is grass! And that's even more water consuming than avocado

[@alexcontreras6103]

Many of these mediterrean climates have the same issues as California did with water shortage and just don't get enough heat for multiple crops unlike Michoacan Mexico that's why California gave up on mass producing it. But Avocado is the greatest crop one can grow, literally green gold, a big bang for the buck. Also that lady is not 100% depending on which species of the 3 Avocados it's not technically a tropical tree as the Mexican and Guatemalan varieties which are the most popular ones are highland species (Hass is a hybrid of the two) while the west indies variety is tropical which is what you find in Florida and South America but it's very bland in taste and they are not growing it

[@youxkio]

Colorado River, yup!

[@t4squared]

The smooth skinned green avocado is only bland when it’s not grown in its native environment. They also don’t ship well. They taste better when you eat them in the Caribbean where they are grown.

[@youxkio]

@@t4squared Totally agree! I have tasted fruit from several tropical countries and they all taste much better than from non-tropical countries.

[@alexcontreras6103]

@@t4squared I have yet to taste one that's good I been to Colombia, Jamaica, Miami (which has the best of those but still not as good) and Puerto Rico also yucatan/ Quintana roo. They can be better than worse but could never compare to the Guatemalan like Nabal, Nimlioh, Reed or the hybrid of Mex/Guat

[@t4squared]

@@alexcontreras6103 They are just a different kind of avocado, I have had plenty of delicious ones in Jamaica. I wouldn’t expect them to taste the same as the bumpy skinned ones.

[@jorge6207]

4.33: Translation: "I don't want you to cause any trouble" // Actually said: "I don't see any problem". A bit different

[@wayando]

So, foreigners ate fighting and arguing back and forth over a problem that the locals don't even recognize?

[@andrebarros7703]

tbh, no one that appeared in the video, is a "true local".

[@billmartins5545]

Do you have any documentaries on animal agriculture and how animals are treated, how much pollution it causes, and how much water it uses?