A Confused Reaction to CoD: Vanguard's Berlin Mission - Historical Accuracy Breakdown

[@CAPDude44]

>"I gotta see what planes those are" >Checks >Confused silence >Maniacal laughter

[@spiderboi2024]

>that is a c47 with Normandy invasion stripes

[@4T3hM4kr0n]

that maniacal laughter was the best part XD

[@schishne7546]

not to mention, those planes dissapear after 2 seconds

[@rithvikmuthyalapati9754]

Flashing news: US paratrooper plane is used as a Soviet bomber plane

[@lx1995Mk2]

Recognized that's a freaking c-47 just in time for the well timed laughter

[@Spartan_177_unsc]

Also, you should look at the bios for the other operators in vanguard, they just added a Canadian operator who was born in 1920...but served in ww1

[@SnugCheetah36]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@adamir-magnumCZ]

I guess you aren't ready for such historical accuracy yet, but your kids are gonna love it

[@atomicspartan131]

He just traveled back in time to serve his country, duh!

[@bananagun6598]

@@atomicspartan131 what a brave man

[@ChandranPrema123]

Who is that?

[@Halocon720]

The reason the uniforms are wonky is because the Soviets slung a couple Katyushas into the Führerbunker laundromat and they’re wearing whatever they have that's still clean after a month of urban combat /s

[@maxsomerjoki8147]

This is sarcasm right? :D

[@timsellers4946]

@@maxsomerjoki8147 no it’s 100% serious ;)

[@wartornforester1868]

@@timsellers4946 I love every bit of this 🤣

[@anttitheinternetguy3213]

The excuse cod needs For upcoming Cross dressing SS-officers!

[@majorblitz3846]

*Totally real history context of the battle of the Deustch ReichsLaundromat* Himmler shouldn't have promote a laundromat as the "Birthplace of the Reich's finest uniform of the nation" at the first place That is like the biggest "Fuck me" sign that invite the kinkiest Red Army division to vandalize the place.

[@HellenicMapper]

Step 1: Secure the keys Step 2: Ascend from darkness Step 3: Rain fire Step 4: Unleash the horde Step 5: Skewer the winged beast Step 6: Wield a fist of iron Step 7: Raise hell Step 8: Freedom

[@darthnahte6787]

Exactly

[@avery41441]

reznov you must know this suicide

[@KaiLplol]

What

[@philosophicalpatriot1883]

@@KaiLplol It's from call of duty black ops 1, it's the steps of a plan to escape from a gulag

[@KaiLplol]

@@philosophicalpatriot1883 aha thanks

[@at_omic8578]

22:15 i love how Polina is holding a pistol instead of her Mosin but the game shows her holding it like the Mosin because the Tokarev def has an invisible front grip

[@TiernanWilkinson]

What, you mean to say your Tokarev isn't 2 1/2 feet long?

[@Halocon720]

Ah, but you see comrade, when you hold pistol like rifle, you shoot more accurately for fear of shooting fingers

[@collinthegamer510]

@@Halocon720 Makes sense.

[@ДаниилСтепанов-р1и]

@@Halocon720 Oh, i see, you are a man of MEME culture as well. Srsly, i remembre that meme picture. About "You hold pistol like a rifle...".

[@kaubajuutraulikene1274]

also the mosin didnt have an carrying sling, so it was levitating on her back

[@AnimarchyHistory]

Ok, so things I missed/ got wrong Not a Makarov, that's a Tokarev. Still, Russian Knockoff of a western pistol with similar name so forgive me on that. G43 Mag is curved, why? How? I don't know. But it is. Also, for those of you not too familiar with world history. After the war ended, the USSR and Western Allies became enemies. And as Polina is a Special Operations sniper, she is most likely affiliated with the NKVD (Soviet Secret Police). Meaning that she would probably be ordered to inform on, kidnap or murder her comrades here once the conflict ends. Also, thank you to the gun nerds in the chat, I do planes not guns so your input is valuable. Quote from Boymahina123 "The MG42 is a short recoil operated machine gun. That means the bolt and barrel both move backwards a short distance while locked together, before the bolt unlocks, detaches from the barrel and continues on backwards to eject the spent brass and continue with the cycle. It has no gas system to speak of. The muzzle booster's function is to use gas pressure at the muzzle to help the locked bolt-and-barrel system overcome inertia and get the action moving and functioning. Without it, the recoil force of the fired round wouldn't be enough to both overcome the inertia of the bolt-and-barrel system and push the bolt back far enough to eject the fired round/strip a new round from the belt" Fun times.

[@neki0playz12]

Based Polina?

[@tanja_hatsuse]

Just want to inform you, you misspelled "Tempelhof Airport" at around 8:44 ... It just means "temple yard"... ^^' xD

[@arkhanthecursed5447]

you also miss the point that Werner Von Braun wasn't a SS. He was enlisted as one but forced to be one by Himmler himself. He was asked twice to joined the SS, he declined the two invitation but at the second he was put to jail and then he accept to "be" a SS. And the use of prisonner from concentration camp wasn't his idea neither, it was Arthur Rudolf that proposed to use these prisonner to work on assembly line at Peenemünde or Mittelwerk. An Amalgam that a lot of historian have done.

[@RevJerusalem]

Well, the 8mm Mauser is a tapered cartridge, so it would be, at some point. The problem is bigger then that. First, that is not the 10rnd mag the G43 came with, this is like a 15rnd thing. Second, the curve would be too much even if there was a 15rnd mag for it somewhere (if there is, I can't find it), 8 Mauser is not THAT tapered. Have a look at the Mauser M1916 selfloader, with a 20rnd curved mag in 8mm Mauser.

[@isaiahkayode6526]

Where’s is Enterprise Part 3.

[@CptNorthKorea]

The really glaring error on Freisinger's uniform to me is that he doesn't have his shoulder boards with his rank, it looks like an incomplete uniform jacket with random medals someone just googled. Edit: It honestly kinda looked like they tried to copy Hitler's "style" and medals then pasted them onto an SS uniform with an old guard chevron and no shoulder boards .

[@mo45327]

Also his party badge is humongous

[@Vyury]

Additionally, his sleeve patch points to him being a frontline grunt (Sturmman if I remember correctly), but his collar badge suggest he is an Untersturmfuhrer (second lieutenant), although his rank should be much higher than that to fulfil his role in the story.

[@mo45327]

@@Vyury His sleeve patch is actually not rank insignia (that would be worn on the left sleeve), but an honorary insignia of the SS for members who joined the Nazi party or the SS before 30 January 1933 (worn on the right sleeve). en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honour_Chevron_for_the_Old_Guard#:~:text=SS%20Chevron%20for%20Former%20Police,Adolf%20Hitler%20in%20February%201934.

[@juno1915]

His uniform was correct when he was turned Skywalker crispy.

[@iateseveralpoundsofsemtex1577]

@@Vyury which in all things considered with the type of people he was surrounded with in that building with the party going on and all, he was outranked in every facet of hierarchy. but, fuck logic and accuracy i guess. seeing how that's the type of tone this game has with how it wants to portray history and all that.

[@boymahina123]

As a commenter from the Bougainville Mission breakdown, let me reiterate how the MG42 works. The MG42 is a short recoil operated machine gun. That means the bolt and barrel both move backwards a short distance while locked together, before the bolt unlocks, detaches from the barrel and continues on backwards to eject the spent brass and continue with the cycle. It has no gas system to speak of. The muzzle booster's function is to use gas pressure at the muzzle to help the locked bolt-and-barrel system overcome inertia and get the action moving and functioning. Without it, the recoil force of the fired round wouldn't be enough to both overcome the inertia of the bolt-and-barrel system and push the bolt back far enough to eject the fired round/strip a new round from the belt.

[@bignickenergy2042]

True statement! 42 must have a booster to properly function! Fun fact: there are companies in America that re weld parts kit mg42s to semi autos (as to be legally owned) and adjustment of the booster is necessary for that and for the caliber changes to both .308 and even some being converted to shoot 7.62x39 (for a cheaper cost to shoot).

[@jacknedry3925]

You beat me to it…

[@lx1995Mk2]

Don't forget about how you can remove both the stock and buffer for maximum close quarters efficiency

[@ChandranPrema123]

27:51 I'm pretty sure that's an MG42 with that Muzzle Break/Flash Hider

[@antoinelachapelle3405]

Tldr: good engineering makes it go BRRRRRTT

[@tarnvedra9952]

Love it! You can tell Wehrmacht is on its last legs since they ran out of red dots.

[@ziggystrangelove4250]

17:47 Fun fact in BFV the overheat animation for the mg42 includes swapping out the barrels! It's a pretty neat detail!

[@magmapixel8627]

BFV is more historically accurate than this game. Absolute travesty.

[@makfrags14]

Yea.. shame how battlefield V turned out

[@ashistoxic8447]

it's cuz dice actually cares (sorta) about historical accuracy and authenticity

[@lumbagoboi1649]

Too bad bfV was still an absolute circus. I don't get why every modern WW2 game from battlefield or cod has to suck.

[@Spudtron98]

@@magmapixel8627 Battlefield usually gets their weapons to actually behave correctly, outside of a few cases that usually get rectified the next time around. For instance, the M.95 in BF1 ejected its en-bloc clip like a Garand when reloading from partially empty. The clip also visibly contained all of its rounds. When it reappeared in V, this was changed to having to physically pull the clip out manually, with the correct amount of leftover rounds in it. When reloading with just one bullet left, that round is ejected and a new clip is simply pushed in, as the previous one would've dropped out of the bottom of the rifle when the last round was chambered.

[@Tarnfalk]

So I’ve flown a ton of flight sims since I was 16 and can usually ID a military aircraft at a brief glance. I honestly couldn’t tell what the C-47 was since my brain refused to believe that an unarmed transport plane would be flying over Berlin at night as the Soviets invade lol

[@Makapaa]

Likewise. All I could muster myself was "That looks VERY familiar.. and extremely wrong for some reason."

[@PandaMan-xy1he]

Same. I was thinking “is that a wonky-looking FW200?” Until I saw the stripes when he pointed them out. Wth CoD?

[@moirakadhan745]

From my phone, in a crappy blurry resolution, I thought it was at least a Li-2, but they didn't even bother retexturing it lmao. Not that it would've made a whole lot more sense but yknooooow

[@scarecrow2097]

The funny thing with your characters is that they assume the reason why civilians are in danger is because Freisinger neglects them in the ruined subway cause "they aren't useful to him" and not because they are running away from the Soviets xD

[@ft5821]

What makes that quote funnier is that its coming from the Soviet,herself.

[@diegorincon4673]

@@ft5821 the same Soviet that at 28:25 murders a surrendered, unarmed German soldier for no reason.

[@scarecrow2097]

@@ft5821 really? I should watch again, I thought it was the British guy saying it.

[@iamsinistar8971]

I wonder how they feel about that moment after finding out what the soviets did to them.

[@EpicRenegade777]

@@diegorincon4673 i mean, i think the reason is hes a nazi, thats good enough reason

[@commissarkai1791]

Okay so… with the gold wound badge at 1:50. Those were given if you have been wounded a lot, lost multiple limbs or… lost your manhood. Now seeing as he doesn’t have any missing limbs or shows the effects of multiple wounds I think we can all agree why he’s got it

[@dagwood6703]

OH SHOOT.

[@jasonheath7045]

Oh no XD

[@radioraptor9110]

NO D

[@thejason755]

Men everywhere: *aggressively sucks teeth in imagined pain*

[@jaspertaylor2810]

@@radioraptor9110 NO BALLS

[@darthdanni8071]

For anyone who is interested, project Nova is the gas or chemical weapon in the first Black ops game.

[@Enterprise6126]

Nova 6

[@Suquartz]

@@Enterprise6126 Yeah, that is Project Nova

[@GhemourMoncef]

The gas that murdered my boy dimitri 😢

[@Sam.Stindt05]

"I do actually like the squad dynamic" *Russian soldier fucking explodes* "Woah. RIP the homie"

[@jacobszymczak9323]

I dont like when games do the "chase down the big baddie but he has to be taken down alive because we need his info" only to then immediately kill them, especially if there's no choice between killing them or keeping them alive. It makes the whole chase portion completely pointless, especially if they fail you for shooting them during the chase. If the "correct" choice is to kill them let me do it whenever I can, not have a bombastic chase where we almost all die so we can "take them down alive with our own hands" then kill them anyway

[@occam7382]

Black Ops 2 did this right when they actually gave you a choice to kill or capture Menendez, and it actually affected the ending. Black Ops: Cold War also did that, though not as good as Black Ops 2.

[@DSMCasual]

“If Call of Duty: Vanguard II is Secretly Under Development” Animarchy: “Ah, S***. Here we go Again.”

[@ChandranPrema123]

Highly unlikely lol

[@AUDIEtheONE]

It's no secret, sledgehammer WANTS not only Vanguard 2, but a Third installment of cringe token squad, because in their eyes: "CoD has no iconic characters"

[@DSMCasual]

@@AUDIEtheONE “When she said “Cod has No Iconic Characters” really annoyed and p*** me off of how dumb and hypocritical that was.” “It really show they planning another sequel for Vanguard. . . . Oh god.”

[@AUDIEtheONE]

@@DSMCasual Not 1 sequel, but 2!

[@SRDPS2]

Then I hope they got shot down by Soviet or American or British fighter or whatever AA gun It's completely 100% sense and End of the franchise (and maybe were already)

[@timsellers4946]

At 22:32, polina’s tokarev is floating, instead of being in the perfectly good holster on her right hip, shown half a second to a second later.

[@TheDeadfast]

Yeah, and her left hand is holding nothing. It looks like they messed up and selected the wrong gun for the cutscene. She's obviously meant to be holding the Mosin instead.

[@MikonyaanGurevich]

You see Ivan, when hold peestol like me

[@bubuhotep]

Kind of weird how you see unarmed male civilians running around in the Battle of Berlin, plus, the fact the squad isn't having to fight any Soviet troops or, having to dodge any Soviet aircraft as they fly out of Berlin. Cause the Soviet forces deliberately encircled Berlin to trap the Nazis in, and to keep the Western allies out.

[@sprtsfanatic1]

Your salivation at the Bren being modeled correctly, super-imposed with Patrick Bateman’s face was perfect! 🤣 Also, I like how it took until the last mission to give the player correct weapons without all the bs holographic sights. Regarding the team, I wouldn’t mind them as much if they weren’t constantly outdoing one-liners and giving every team-based action film a run for their money. On another note, if this game was gonna go the complete alternate history route by the end, then, they should have had the respect and due diligence to mention it at the beginning of the game. WaW was all based upon historical battles and didn’t pull this alternate history shit with their campaign. But, of course, not Hollywood enough to appease their teenage base

[@jidk6565]

The alt history could be good But nope They just had to be dumbasses about it

[@MLPIceberg]

1) I'm not a fan of the 'A-Team' crap, just gimme a faceless soldier that isn't worried about how he/she looks and not cracking wise-assed comments every 3 seconds. So, something like the first 3 Call of Duty games. 2) I agree. I wouldn't mind the alt history if they had said so, but instead they went with "Oh our game is an accurate re-telling of World War II, so don't worry about a thing." And yet we get... whatever the hell Vanguard is trying to be. A game where not only are men pieces of shit, de-humanizing Germans and Japanese, Women know best and fight the hardest (there are quite a few real-life reports that support it, but not in the way Vanguard portrays it), wrong dates for attacks and wrong attacks in general, very wrong locations, unnecessary hate, too much modern-day drama for a time that was vastly different and lastly, an insult to all the men and women that lost their lives and a piece of themselves during such a catastrophic event in our history.

[@sprtsfanatic1]

@@MLPIceberg Exactly! 👏 If they want to go the Wolfenstein or Man in the High Castle Route. Then, cool, that could be interesting. But Christ, at least let your audience know that. All it takes is a simple 5 second screen explaining that this game is based upon real-life events, but set in an alternate timeline or some shit like that. Vanguard’s biggest flaw, aside from the obvious weapons, vehicles and aircraft of the correct time periods, was constantly shoving politics of this era into a time period that didn’t have it and that wasn’t the point. It was the largest scale war in human history and had catastrophic tragedies for all involved. Both factions committed war crimes and atrocities but that was what happened. Hence why The Geneva Convention was formed, NATO, and standards of warfare. If you’re gonna make a historic game, then you better have the balls to respect the source material and portray it correctly. WaW had a much better portrayal of this and that game is from 2008

[@place_there9104]

The obvious anomaly is why the main Nazi shows the rank tabs of an SS second lieutenant and gets away with ordering officer's around with SS rank insignias that are all higher than his. Why go through all the trouble of going through all the details they did get right if they're going to do something that obviously stupid?

[@Tounushi]

To be fair, the Nazi power structure had overlapping fields of responsibility with their own ranking systems: The party itself, government ministries and organizations, SS, military, etc. etc.

[@place_there9104]

@@Tounushi The Nazis were addicted to displays of heirarchy. High ranking Party, Chancellery, and government officials were granted honorary SS ranks and wore the uniform, but these were always roughly equivalent to the importance of their regular job. It would be a calculated insult to give such a high ranking person the lowest officer rank in the SS and for them to wear that uniform. No explanation is offered in the game for that discrepancy. Also, I don't think that was a Party badge being displayed as our esteemed commentator mentioned. That would have been worn on the necktie on the uniform or centered over the left breast pocket. From the size it looks like the German Cross in Gold being displayed in the wrong position. It should be on the right side of the recipient centered on the breast pocket. This was nicknamed "Hitler's fried egg" for the gaudy way it looked and the huge swastika on it. It was the intermediate medal between the Iron Cross First Class and the Knight's Cross. Again, another anomily is why combat medals were being worn on the black SS uniform when by 1945, all Waffen SS that were combatants would have been wearing gray uniforms.

[@Tounushi]

@@place_there9104 "No explanation is offered in the game for that discrepancy." or any discrepancy... And him wearing black would indicate more to him being Allgemeine-SS rather than Waffen-SS, further reinforced by the brown shirt under the jacket. And I doubt he was supposed to wear the German Cross, as it doesn't have the metal starburst around it, and the "roundel structure" of it was swastika -> white circle -> silver/gold wreath on a red ring -> steel starburst. Also there's no space for text on the red, which the party badge does have. At best it's a pointlessly censored 30mm Golden Party Badge, which is likely, since he's old guard in the SS.

[@place_there9104]

@@Tounushi They could have constructed a storyline about a formerly high ranking Waffen SS officer having delusions about being the rightful leader of Germany and getting booted out of both the Party and the Waffen SS as a result. In honor of past services he could have been allowed to retain membership in the lowest officer rank of the Allgemeine SS. That would have explained the antipathy towards Hitler and the uniform, although it wouldn't explain at all why anyone would still be following him. Another missed game opportunity. As for the German Cross versus the Golden Party Badge question. It could be either one since the appearance and positioning are wrong for both awards. What I see in the game more closely resembles the post-war version of the German Cross which would be acceptable to show in the game in Germany. This could be a case of lazy programming that includes the censored German version elements of the uniform along with uncensored rest of the world elements.

[@SaucyAlfredo]

I bet in this timeline the tiger’s transmission worked fine, the king tiger had plenty of spares, and the maus totally didn’t breakdown every 5 seconds

[@ChandranPrema123]

It funny how there 2 Broken Tiger 2 in this mission

[@kaubajuutraulikene1274]

the maus didnt even start, it was broken already

[@MrTornadoman97]

The C-47s killed me the same way you did. They could have literally just retextured it to a solid color instead of invasion stripes and it would be much harder to tell. Also, at 22:16 the Soviet girl's pose is as if she's holding a rifle but only has a TT lol.

[@ninetailedfox3716]

It looks like that the metro chasing comes out from MW3's mission "Mind the Gap" when a SAS team was chasing a metro.

[@bananagun6598]

I was thinking the same thing seems they cant do original stuff nowadays

[@Thebigem]

Expect MW3 is a Way Better Game & the Campaign doesn’t make me wanna commit Blender Neck

[@earthgovernmentcolonialall3973]

I uh never understood one part of the final mission. Why did they even leave the airport? Why did “polina” left the airport after seeing the Soviets advancing. In other words leaving their allies. Also why did they leave while there was a lot of Bombers and Flak 88’s….. This was actually a game production partnering with HISTORY Channel’s. “hunting Hitler” and all those fuck up dumb theories.

[@FreyR_Kunn]

A possible explanation is that the allied command did not want any of the intel from falling into the Soviet’s hands. But polina still shouldn’t go with them, she is a Soviet herself

[@AADP]

She wanted the Intel, SPOILER in the sequel she kill all of them and in 1947 she kill Beria and Stalin herself, Zukhov and Kruschev kneel befote her and she become the next soviet leader

[@privatehudson516]

The worst part is that Freisinger CAN speak German (he did when executing Novak in the campaign's beginning), but he just speaks English even when talking to other Nazis, like this was a low budget American ww2 movie that can't afford to find a German actor. I don't even feel like I am watching a Nazi

[@terminallumbago6465]

Credit to BF5 at least the characters were speaking the right languages for their respective areas in the war stories.

[@kuriankeralaIndia]

@@terminallumbago6465 Thats every battlefield games except battlefield 2042 where you have to change language in the setting .

[@fearofowl5973]

I always assume that they are speaking German in the canon of the scene, but they just immerse us in the story by presenting it to us in a language we understand.

[@Falcon_Songs]

​@@fearofowl5973 That's not how it should work.

[@fearofowl5973]

@@Falcon_Songs it's just an issue of diagesis, you wouldn't normally complain if a film has music playing in a scene where the characters aren't listening to music.

[@ace_ofchaos9292]

As Reznov once said: “The flag may be different, but the methods are the same.

[@occam7382]

"They will use you, as they used me."

[@rileyoakley7196]

You mentioned the barrel changing feature, I’m pretty sure that’s actually included in battlefield V, been a while since I played it though so not 100% sure

[@joshhenning6115]

About to say the same thing after overheating you change the barrel with a spent casing

[@dreaminginvalhalla1914]

Its a feature on the MG34 AND MG42. They're also different Animations

[@ThomasLover10852]

I swear, having met someone who flew in C-47s for the entire war I knew from the second I saw those planes overhead I immediately recognized those as Skytrains. To quote him in fact: “there are no guns on this airplane” and there sure as hell weren’t any bombs. However he did tell me of the missions he flew onto carry gasoline to Patton’s Tank Division so essentially with 120 jerry cans of gasoline onboard they were THEMSELVES flying bombs for if a single tracer hit the fuselage it would ignite the frequently leaking canisters and blow them sky high. I know you’re probably not gonna notice this Pac-Man but on the off chance you do: I’ve got an aviation story of the century I think you might enjoy. Love the video, keep doing what you do Pac-Man! -Tom

[@AnimarchyHistory]

I’m a sucker for good aviation stories.

[@ThomasLover10852]

@@AnimarchyHistory well friend, it’s your lucky day. Cause I’ve got the full story of a man and his C-47 so bizarre, if I didn’t have to proof to back it up you’d say I was looney. Everything from written accounts from D-Day To The Battle Of Berlin from the perspective of a man who saw everything and, despite orders not to do so, photographed everything in sight, including several shots of a captured German Mistel. Did he ever get questioned for being a spy? No. But he did witness one of the first American glimpses of a German Jet to which he was questioned by High Command and told to write down what it looked like. So yeah, I know some things you might get a chuckle at. If you have a way to chat I’d love to regale you with my findings from one historian to another. Cheers! -Tom P.S. I hope you’re as excited for the Northern Parliament Event in Azur Lane tomorrow as I am. Winter Is Coming and Kronstadt is Following…

[@Autobotmatt428]

@@AnimarchyHistory Do call of duty 2 either British or American

[@bcrenown8721]

29:57, the truck on the left side is japanese isuzu type 94, it even has steering wheel on the right side which can be seen later

[@ChandranPrema123]

It looks like a typical German Blitzer doe.

[@ridge2542]

The only thing about the Bren gun at 15:00 is that the carry handle, in the upright position, can only stand upright, and not hang to the right side as shown here

[@preciselyinaccurate5460]

Yeah so as far as I can tell they use the same fallschamjager models throughout the game. I remember seeing the jump helmet in the E3 footage and going “were there paratroopers at Stalingrad?” Answer was of course no, the only paratroop units involved in Barbarossa went with Army group North to Leningrad.

[@obiwaankenobi4460]

There was one Fallschirmjäger unit at Stalingrad. Can't remember the designation but it was a company of the 4th Fallschirmjäger Battalion. It consisted of 235 or so men and was pretty much annihilated, as most components of the 6th Army were.

[@preciselyinaccurate5460]

@@obiwaankenobi4460 I’m not sure if I’ve got the right unit but all I can find is the 4th Parachute division and apparently they were really only at Anzio.

[@kevinforgione7407]

if you like the squad dynamic, i suggest CoD 2:big red one. the history cutscene sections are narrated by mark Hamill

[@MLPIceberg]

Oh yes~ such a good game. I remember nearly everything about that game. Even the squad members. I miss Vick and Bloomfield. Fun fact: Because I must be Dyslexic, I always thought Bloomfield's name was Bloodfield. lol Plus you get to fight Italians and use Italian/French weaponry. I wish I still had my old Gamecube copy... I miss playing that game.

[@ChandranPrema123]

And CoD 3 whic had Polish and Canadians.

[@pedroholsbach8592]

17:40 Battlefield V out of all ganes has this feature, believe it or not. When you over heat the MG34 and 42, your character does a barrel switch animation

[@gunnargunnarsson5963]

and Red Orchestra 2 also has that

[@Blazcowitz1943]

You know, the set up they had at the end of the game of secret Nazi projects throughout the world I think would actually make an interesting plot for a game. Maybe they'll do that in the future, but an immediate post WW2 Black ops style game could make for an interesting story. In the same way Black Ops Cold War took the Perseus thread of truth to make a whole game, they could do something fictional about the months and couple of years after WW2, based around stuff like the planned "Werewolf" insurgency or the supposed ODESSA organization (the alleged group of ex-Nazis who organized escape for war criminals and to keep the spirit of the Reich alive). There is enough truth to be expanded on and fictionalized to make an original "unknown history" like the first Call of Duty Black Ops.

[@ChandranPrema123]

This is more like an Internal Coupe based on the failed attempts of Rommel to kill Hitler.And this villan is based on Heinrich Muller which Rommel was his friend .It story was like that

[@ChandranPrema123]

This game literally a prequel to project Nova that's it

[@tehonlynoobs5556]

they gonna do it .... on plot for warzone ofc the money maker

[@MrPolicekarim]

It seems to me that the plan with Vanguard is that the next game will be set in places like remote Nazi based in places like the Antarctic, South America, or abandoned submarines. You will face fanatical Nazis armed with futuristic weapons and vehicles, like Wolfenstein. You may do undercover missions set in mainland Europe. You may have to kidnap rogue Nazi scientists. Your team may complain about having to let them off horrific war crimes, in the Cold War and the USSR. Polina will be a bit pissed off about it, giving some tension between the team. Basically, a hidden history where all nazis captured were thanks to the Vanguard team! So Wolfenstein, wokeness, and a little bit of Mark Felton thrown in! LOL!

[@badasscrusader]

@@MrPolicekarim did you forget that polina is russian so working with your enemies even against the nazis wouldn't happen,they could do a cool plot line for it but they won't

[@SibbTigre]

On the Panzer II - pretty much a given at this stage. They were throwing pretty much anything that still ran at the Soviets in the pointless hope that the Western allies would reach Berlin. Though whether that continued into May is.. not actually given. Should be a wrecked Mk IV somewhere in Berlin.

[@magni5648]

Panzer IIs were also used in armored recon units right to the end of the war.

[@shadowraven3253]

@@magni5648 wweren't hose the 'Luchs' variant...what was it...F? L? I think the number of working 'normal' Pz II was very small at that point if there were any.

[@magni5648]

@@shadowraven3253 "Luchs" were the L variant, though the last before that, the Panzer IIF were also relegated to recon work earlier. The L was basically built specifically for it in recognition of the role change. Both got ground down over time.

[@diegorincon4673]

They were fast and as such good scout tanks.

[@sjins1poolboy698]

I was thinking the same thing, all sorts of Russian, British and American tanks were pushed into service in Berlin so a Panzer II is really not that odd when there was even a T35 (one of the most bizarre tanks ever made) involved in the battle.

[@archivalspice7781]

The rest of the Battlefield 1 and Battlefield 5 story missions would be cool to break down

[@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009]

Yes please

[@civilrebel3743]

Battlefield V had one hell of a campaign, last tiger

[@ChandranPrema123]

@@civilrebel3743 and also don't forget the rest being a shit show aswell

[@Autobotmatt428]

@@civilrebel3743 I was pissed of at that.

[@badasscrusader]

@@Autobotmatt428 at what part?

[@lv83bloodknight]

Why would you risk flying a German plane out of there and get shot down by the Soviets? By the looks of it the Red Army would have secured the air port within the hour, just wait around a bit.

[@iamsinistar8971]

Because then all that valuable nazi treasure they found in the plane would go to Stalin and most or all of the Vanguard team would be executed so they don't rat them out to The Allies. And The Developers can't plot armor their way out of that.

[@Atesz222]

@@iamsinistar8971 Well, the game is set way after the Kommando order was given out so you could say they even had that part plot armoured. Also that prison escape was just stupid. How the Demoman went out and planted those timed charges on the outside prison wall would make even James Bond blush

[@iamsinistar8971]

@@Atesz222 Yeah even the A-Team would call bullshit on that stunt.

[@MechE_Emma]

20:39 - It looks like Vladimir and his friends requisitioned some American paratrooper planes for the Motherland... I'm just not sure if the bombs they're dropping are the explosive kind or just bodies.

[@schishne7546]

18:35 also the way these planes just dissapear speaks for the effort put into that

[@robertpawlowski5841]

The Vest the Paratroopers are wearing, that looks like a Modern Plate carrier, is the Magazine Vest the Italian Paratroopers got for their MPs.

[@zero-0159]

Also why Paratroopers are wearing that Italian vests? For what I know the germans never used such italian equipment

[@zacharyfunman7950]

Personally I love that your tearing apart this dumb as na story especially since one of my great uncles was a high German general. So much appreciated.

[@NebulaDrake78]

19:57 CoD Vanguard used a freaking transport plane as a bomber!? Last time I checked transport planes like this one were unarmed!

[@bright3944]

17:00 so you're telling me removing the flash hider allows you to shoot an mg 42 as a bolt action rifle

[@EscanV]

Need to test it out! an incredibly inaccurate Straight-pull bolt action... but if it works it works... at least you won't have to reload that often...

[@bright3944]

@@EscanV exactly

[@MrMiguella]

The muzzle device is actually part of the gas system so it would actually work light that

[@535phobos]

@@EscanV Why incredibly inaccurate? I can assure you, the MG42 us pretty accurate in single fire.

[@clothar23]

@@535phobos Only if the thing was mounted to something. Shoulder or hip firing a MG42 even in a single fire mode would not get you accurate fire.

[@jonasemilaksnes]

28:30 The 9th Parachute Division fought in the battle of Berlin thats the only one i know of that was in Berlin and they had ceased to exist by the 2nd of May.

[@thesinistersiblings705]

Given that it looks like they stole a fair bit from the Wolfenstein series, i'd love to know your thoughts on said series.

[@MLPIceberg]

At this point, you can't avoid "stealing" with so many original ideas. But I get your point, usually development companies are blatantly stealing (and it usually is the case) when they're either looking for ideas or going with a concept laid out for them.

[@AUDIEtheONE]

If they fully invested into the dieselpunk-wolfenstein style and story, I'd have been less upset, and they would've had more freedom to go all out with designs and attachments. But no, they just butcher real WWII history.

[@ntfoperative9432]

It's so batshit insane he'd probably be laughing his ass off most of the video

[@logandance4644]

There was this one thing I heard that the Germans had even brought in a old British mark 4 tank from www out of their museum to use for defense.

[@gemmabutterworth1208]

22:25 It would appear polina is holding a tokarev as if it was a rifle

[@Kyanpepper25]

I always had a problem with Hissenberg trash talking Hitler (i Mean he is right, Hitler was a failure and a coward) But the Nazi's even after his death were vary loyal to him. His whole Fourth Reich thing never would have happened. And after his death Germany would have been so hurt that him saying this would have gotten him executed. I know this is Sledgehammer Cod so absolutely no thought was put into it. But during my first and last playthrough I always that that was a kinda dumb choice. (Also why the Fourth Reich? He wouldn't need to create a new one. Just stick with the third.)

[@planderlinde1969]

Frizenger was planning a coup for three years prior to 1945 so it makes sense that while he is here with his collaborators he openly mocks AH. One thing you forgot was that even of he did escape Berlin to for his "fourth reich" underground in South America he just would have been another delusional Nazi blabbing on about the third Reich's return while being hunted internationally by organizations like the Mossad.

[@Kyanpepper25]

@@planderlinde1969 You are right on about the second part! one thing is if this was planned years back. He would have been dead long ago.

[@ChandranPrema123]

@@Kyanpepper25 Rommel was a friend of Friesinger and he has waited for this moment for 3 years. yeah

[@ChandranPrema123]

@@Kyanpepper25 Rommel was a friend of Friesinger and he has waited for this moment for 3 years. yeah

[@alfiebutterworth-cu4ys]

33:54 The part where lucas says does anybody want some nazi gold doesn't make any sense due to the gold becoming an illegal currency a few years later I would imagine and it would have to be returned to Jewish family's considering how thee gold was literally parts of there family's teeth

[@tonig.1546]

Lmao from 22:19 we see Polina with her Mosin on her back and her Makarov levitating because I think she was supposed to hold the Mosin when Lucas threw that ammo belt to her.

[@goofyahh384]

25:55 does not mention the screams of absolute pain and terror he only says wolfenstein

[@Rudofaux]

16:53 Without the muzzle booster. That MG-42 would act like a straight pull action firearm.

[@RaginCanadian-gx2zl]

my issue with this mission is how the soviets don't shoot the squad at all. i feel like if i was a soviet gunner and i saw a group i didnt recognize at all running around in the destruction and darkness id assume they were germans and shoot them. polina straights runs past a squad of machine gunners and a tank and none of them are suspicious of who she is at all?

[@irohito622]

On 27:55 where you throw the grenade, just to let you know that the grenade used is a British Mills Bomb. It has a 7 seconds time fuse so it was used for defensive purposes. But here, the time fuse is 2 seconds

[@NoMoreCrumbs]

Battlefield V actually has correctly modeled animations for the barrel changes for MG34s and MG42s. The weapons of that game are actually fairly well modeled, surprisingly

[@crazyafrican9955]

The bug in the cutscene at 22:35 is just funny

[@rolfagten857]

19:51 in video The Lisunov Li-2 (NATO reporting name: Cab), originally designated PS-84, was a license-built Soviet-version of the Douglas DC-3. It was produced by Factory #84 in Moscow-Khimki and, after evacuation in 1941, at TAPO in Tashkent. The project was directed by aeronautical engineer Boris Pavlovich Lisunov. 6517 build. So the Russians had them!

[@HystericalHuntress]

22:25 Polina casually holding a pistol like it's a rifle. Also 27:37 is the most hollywood fucking bullshit I've seen in a CoD game. Man punches flying debris out of the air to save you. 30:43 I'm a bad bitch you can't kill me.

[@tangero3462]

I concur in that being surprisingly not awful aside from the glaring issues in the entire premise of the mission. Like, they could have had you fight to the Brandenburg Gate and stop him there, highlighting some uncommon real history (and giving them an excuse to model a Storch, an aircraft I utterly adore). They didn't have to invent a narrative, they could have used the reality that was just as interesting. I still cannot get over how jarringly ahistorical the weapon handling is. The most forward thinking person of that era was probably WE Fairbairn and even he didn't teach anything like this. It's all just 2022 commando shit juxtaposed into WWII. I also detest how wimpy they made the semiauto handguns sound--.45 ACP and .30 Tokarev are loud, punchy cartridges. They're not cap guns

[@starstruckp4808]

34:29 I truly want to hear more about that scenario on her supposed to be inevitable betrayal to the group. History class really skimmed on a lot of details that I wish I knew.

[@FreyR_Kunn]

Polina’s role as a special operations sniper would mean she works under the NKVD, the Soviet secret police). The Soviets would not allow for all of Polina’s colleagues to be left alone because of their knowledge on the operation. Thus, Soviet agents and, most likely Polina, would be ordered to spy on and kill off the members.

[@Ms.Whiskertoria]

So now that you mention the metro tunnel should be flooded, I'm kinda disappointed that we didn't get a cool boat chase in a partially flooded metro tunnels.

[@SubZero-cv5hk]

first thing I was thinking of when it said 'using the subway to get to the airport'. at 13:03 it says 'Hallesches Tor', they should be swimming there, no matter the direction they came from.

[@ilyaszaim6494]

27:43 at this point wade just wants to keep it

[@TheFacelessStoryMaker]

I think one of the worst things is that this game DARES to be linked albeit barely to a great CoD game of Black Ops by mentioning Project Nova which was Nova 6 the biological weapon the Nazi's were making that Dragovich and Kravchenko captured along with Steiner in the Arctic Circle after the war in Operation Olympus iirc.

[@Mysteres78979]

He's back again for the sole purpose of suffering, hats off my lad!

[@NebulaDrake78]

22:40 Is that a King Tiger!

[@ironvader502]

You know, I dont know if its correct. But it allmost feels like they spent a majority of their time (and probably budget) on this final mission, and then just quickly slapped the rest of the Campaign together with what time and resources they had left.

[@Destroyer_V0]

Would certainly explain the weapons seen in the rest of the campaign. Just reuse the AI template from Berlin.

[@sorosub4562]

BRUUUHHHH i saw the c47s and started dying I literally cant rn Also the t34 has a 5 second reload in this universe

[@rolfagten857]

Hey, "the Dirty Dozen the fatal mission" (1988 war movie) also features that SS general who wants to establish a 4th Reich in Turkey. Fun fact is that the train car of Compiegne that you see in "All Quiet on the Western front" can be seen as car 2420 with which the top Nazis try to get away.

[@F9023JFjcDfsdfw2e]

20:54 - Is anyone else surprised that he didn't pause and look at the shadows to try and identify the planes?

[@ZeSgtSchultz]

Another good book is "Look who's back" Theres a movie too. Basically, hitler wakes up in 2014 germany and the last thing he remembers is looking at his gun with Ava in the bunker, and his clothes smell of petrol. It's a pretty wacking book, but its worth a read or a listen

[@Analog_Mind47]

22:21 She's holding a Pistol, but her hands are in a Rifle holding position/animation

[@pac2267]

10:55 the mg42 did have the muzzle brake ... its just the UI that is wron, but its there in the gun look at the time 10:55 in the video when he performs the animation

[@aussiepilot7886]

Lamingtons really do make life worth living As an Aussie myself I can confirm

[@helenaprimera516]

Would you ever fly an enemy aircraft in the allied-controlled airspace? So weird

[@bulldowozer5858]

"I'm a Luft-a-boo, I need to know this." **LAUGHTER** perfect

[@SeshanTM]

27:57 Right now they would be eating grenade fragments and have severe concussions

[@shadowtrooper262]

I notice Freisinger's Luger P08 has a small piece of rail attachment on his pistol. I think the developers literally gave up on the bombers.

[@sufler5670]

That cutscene only happened because Steiner wasn't around to do the counterattack.

[@foxtrot_143]

suggestion: reaction or gameplay of "The Last Tiger" War story from battlefield V. Probably the only war story in battlefield V that I can recommend as it is decently done. Love these types of videos from ya, great stuff!

[@JS-ui5ew]

23:00 overpressure says hi and slaps you around...

[@MastaBlastaZDusta]

Invasion stripes and all other BS aside, soviets did use C-47 and even had their own reworked version called Lisunov Li-2. It was even used as a bomber, that could carry 4x250kg bombs :)

[@22KaTsh]

… and the Li-2 would be safe to fly over Berlin at this stage - as the LuftWaffe glory days were over - so “invasion stribes” would be for the *notoriously trigger happy* USAF ??

[@Castrix99]

Kind of a bad idea to fly that Ju-52 with the German markings on it since it's just gonna get shredded by allied planes but oh well..

[@Captain23rdGaming]

Whenever i found out about Unit 371 aswell as the horrors they committed i was immensly pissed to find out they were let off scot free

[@bajszosjozsef4850]

14:03 Old school COD player here. 1, That was an Opel Blitz. The Kubelwagen mission was in the American campaign 2, That was before the Tirpitz mission, as Captain Price is the one driving the truck, and he died later in the beginning of the Tirpitz operation. We were driving to the airfield after we blew up the Eder Dam. I mean, how would you escape a ship with a car? 😅 At the end of the ship mission, we escaped with a small boat, operated by Major Ingram

[@pedrovarunca2197]

Two things I saw so far, the mg42 actually has the muzzlebreak, I just don't know if it's the original, at some point in the metro, he changes weapons and you can see for a split second the muzzlebreak, and the other is that she isn't actually using a Makarov but a TT tokarev

[@Axle0Bullitt019]

I really can't help but think that while the Panzer II in Berlin is really not that out of place. I would imagine at this stage it would be more unlikely that they would have people left who knew how to operate the damn thing. I could only really see it being parked at check points and used as emplacements.

[@4T3hM4kr0n]

Blazkowics would be furious. Slight correction at 14:10 for the first COD The chase sequence you are referring to happens after you sabotage the AA defenses around the Eder Dam. Captain price and Sgt. Waters manage to hijack a Opel Blitz that was carrying a shipment of panzerfausts. It then procceeds into the chase sequence as you use the Bren gun and panzerfausts to take out pursueing forces as you make your way to an airfield for distraction where a secondary team hijacks a Focke-Wulf Condor for your escape. This is also the sequence where you get to shoot down stukas with a flakveirling and the the infamous "EVENS! LIGHT UP THOSE BLOODY STUKAS WITH THE FLAK GUN!" The kubelwagen chase happens in the expansion pack "united offensive" where after taking out a battery of shore guns in sicily you get chased through the nearby town.

[@watdaduckfuk]

There also a one earlier in CoD 1 after you've secured the French town and pushed back the first counter attack you and 2 other use either a Jeep or Cubel wagen to get re-enforcements. It's like the 6th mission or something. Could be miss remember tho cause it's been a few years since I've last play.

[@4T3hM4kr0n]

@@watdaduckfuk yup, you ride in a stolen french car through german lines in order to link up with battalion headquarters to get reinforcements sent to saint-mere-eglise

[@polskisebek5151]

Ik I'm late to comment party but at 27:51 before opening the doors as mg42 is being put away we can see muzzle break so that's atleast one working mg42

[@Yoda_16358]

17:45 Battlefield 5 actually had that feature, kinda. If you overheat the MG-42, then the animation will show you changing out the barrel. This only works if you have the Extended Belt specialization, since otherwise you'll run out of ammo before you overheat the gun. I assume this also works on the MG-34 but I'm not sure. I haven't gotten the Extended Belt or the Double Drum specialization yet.

[@ct7059]

at 22:24 It looks like Polina is holding a pistol like a double handed rifle... (edit she totally is. at 22:32 you get a close look. she is holding the barrel of her "rifle" (pistol) where the barrel doesn't exist. The pistol is just floating there!)

[@lynxxj]

30:21 When you see closely to that badge that you were saying at the beginning, the accurate one just literally appeared. (I forgot what is the name of that badge)

[@grav_nl]

17:42 actually Battlefield V uses this system, but you have to overheat the weapon to get to change the barrels for the MG34 and MG42, id suppose for gameplay reasons

[@cameronnewton7053]

The cod 1 chase occurs after the hydroelectric dam Mission. ( I think it's ingham?) And captain price show up in a truck and you get the heck out of there while half the serviceable German vehicles in western Europe Hunt you down. You escape to an airfield and steal a fw200 condor. The Tirpitz Mission comes after.

[@OCGangsta]

So I have a close friend who loves WWII history like me and he didn't know how bad this game was so I told him about the last mission and the ending and he genuinely didn't believe me because he never thought they would make an ending or level so shit. He never bought the game after he looked it up himself.

[@traitortothecrown1961]

I love this type of content since it's very interesting to see what games fuck up in terms of historical work. Also, can you do My Country Calling or The Last Tiger from Battlefield V next?

[@ChandranPrema123]

Country calling that wierd mission of that 2 British dad and son soldier type of story?

[@traitortothecrown1961]

@@ChandranPrema123 The prologue

[@Spartan_177_unsc]

Oddly enough, the mg42 model that you can carry does have the muzzle device on it, but the model for the turrets and the silhouette of the gun doesn't (I assume they added it on after the beta because it wasn't on the mg42 in the beta)

[@Drew-nx5gc]

A review of inglorious bastards would be amazing.

[@ZombieSurvivalist11]

22:57 I'm surprised you didn't say anything. That's the business end of an 85mm tank gun. I know that no game will ever get tinnitus right and you have all those explosions in the tunnels and all that jazz but the way she just shakes off that overpressure that maybe 12 feet over head. We are past tinnitus and into the realm of needing a doctor with how concussed she would be.

[@MaxwellAerialPhotography]

I think it’s more just s case of reusing assets for a 2 second glimpse in the background.